Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 September 13

= September 13 =

Porn picture hacked into 911 article DISGUSTING!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks

Please remove immediately!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.242.71.71 (talk) 00:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems it's a problem at Commons... — Jeremy v^_^v Components:V S M 00:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * We need a Commons admin to quickly block commons:User:Trowbridge tim — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 00:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed up and responsible user's been blocked. — Jeremy v^_^v Components:V S M 00:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

9/11 attacks page
Can someone please change the picture that was posted on the September 11 attacks page!! Some one has defaced it with a pornographic image and I have edited enough pages to have access to edit protected pages...please help!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlymaha (talk • contribs) 00:13, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * See above thread. The vandal has been blocked at Commons. Singularity42 (talk) 00:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Blocked for three days, gotta AGF! Johnuniq (talk) 00:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Account was subsequently globally locked. Being unblocked means nothing if your account's locked. — Jeremy v^_^v Components:V S M 00:20, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Contributing Information Learned From TV
I just watched a program on one of the cooking channels on cable. During the show they took a few seconds to show the spelling, definition, explanation and an example of a food related item. I found this same term on Wikipedia...the entry was described as a "stub" and was missing several points of interest mentioned in the TV program. Therefore, I want add my paraphrased version of what I learned from the program to the Wikipedia listing. Would I be violating the show's copyright or any other law by contributing this information? Thanks for your help! Annexia2 (talk) 00:46, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The big problem is whether this show is really a reliable source. The secondary problem is citing the specific episode of the show, since "Episode of ThisHereFoodShow broadcast at 2:00 p.m. on September 12, 2011 on MyLocalCable Channel 63" is not a reference adequate for verifiability. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  00:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It would be best if you could search and find a more reliable source for the information you want to add. --ColinFine (talk) 07:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * If the show has a website you might find the informtion there then use that as a reference. Reliability can then be judged by interested editors. Roger (talk) 07:33, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Wrong picture/logo
Hi The Webjetlogo on their page is wrong. The company updated it this year. The new logo doesn't have the lines of the mouse buttons. See the top left corner of their website for the new version - http://www.webjet.com.au/flights. Wikhelper (talk) 02:51, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅ -- John of Reading (talk) 07:33, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- John of Reading (talk) 07:33, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Ektoise
hi, I have been trying to correct a page that has lies on it. this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ektoise

this band was formed after I was fired from it in 2010, NOT 2007, they have released my intellectual copyright without my credits, as confirmed by APRA. they also ME AS A FORMER MEMBER AND MY OLD BAND PURITY DEVICE AS BEING THEM. THIS IS ALL LIESI was putting FACTUAL INFORMATION regarding the THEFT of MY PROPERTY.And you stopped me. I have no money to sue these people, but I welcome any attempt for them to sue me. I view your PROTECTION of them as ASSISTING IN THIS CRIME, and if I ever do take legal action, I shall be taking it against your CORRUPT WEBSITE as well. YOU PUBLISH LIES.

I am FURIOUS with you. I will be telling everyone wiki is a bunch of LIES.

STEVEN E CAMERON — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buddhifer (talk • contribs) 05:05, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Verifiability beat the truth every time. If there are no reliable sources to back up the above assertation, then it cannot be in the article, even if it is true. Buddhifer has been blocked indefinitely per WP:NLT. Mjroots (talk) 06:17, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I am sorry you feel aggrieved. But the problem for Wikipedia is that unless it has been published in reliable sources we have no way of telling whether what you say is true; and in any case we have no way of telling whether you are who you say you are. Wikipedia is not protecting anybody: it is repeating what has already been published by reliable sources (and where it is not, the information should be removed from it). --ColinFine (talk) 07:33, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Village lock-ups
I am interested in expanding the Village lock-up page. I have already managed to edit the page under 'Surviving lock-up locations in England and Wales.' Now I would like to add some specific details of individual lock-ups - please can you tell me how to create a new heading on the page to do this. How do I add a photograph? I am afraid that my computer knowledge is somewhat limited and I need an 'idiots' guide. Thankyou.Royerin 08:51, 13 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Royerin (talk • contribs)
 * If you edit the whole page using the "Edit" link at the very top, you will see the current section headings "== The heading text ==" each on a line by itself. You can add new sections by keying new lines like these in the places where you want them. The Cheatsheet may help you. For photos, I'll post some standard advice here. Please feel free to ask again if you get stuck.
 * If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
 * If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add  to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing   with the actual file name of the image, and   with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:52, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add  to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing   with the actual file name of the image, and   with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:52, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Modification to ChemInfo Box
Is it possible to modify the ChemInfo Box Templates for chemical pages so that as well as the CAS# identifier they also include the EC# identifier which through the implimentation of the EU REACH Regulation (1907/2006) are becoming the prefered standard way to difinitively identify a substance in the EU and beyound.

Cheers,

Nik. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.197.58.8 (talk) 09:03, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to the templates in Category:Chembox templates? I think you should discuss such a change at the talk page of WikiProject Chemistry first, as this seems to be a change that would affect a large number of templates. If there is consensus to do this, then I see no problem to request such a change. If you are only talking about Template:Chembox, you can request this at Wikipedia talk:Chemical infobox, as that template is idefinitely protected. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to bring in more information, there is page on EC number (chemistry)Naraht (talk) 15:03, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Doppelganger account
There is another account that I would like to register as a doppelganger account. That account was created in 2007 and has no edits. What is the right venue to request control of that account? WP:USURP seems to be only concerned with renaming of accounts and thus seems to be the wrong place for such a request. I would appreciate any pointers to the right place. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:13, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * USURP is the right place for you to ask to take over an existing account. GB fan 11:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I am doing something wrong. At WP:USURP I placed Toshio in the edit box of the new section. In the preview window there appears a red warning message saying


 * "You have not added a confirmation link! Replace this message with the url that confirms that you hold the SUL for Toshio."


 * What exact url am I supposed to enter there? I don't get it. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:58, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Would


 * Toshio


 * be sufficient? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:08, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I filed the request (diff). Should be ok now. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Tomas J Fleischmann
Tomas J Fleischmann should be listed as Tomas M Fleischmann. It was a typo and need to enquire how to fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.44.178 (talk) 11:15, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Do you have a reliable source for that? - David Biddulph (talk) 11:21, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The original author moved the page. GB fan 11:24, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it has been moved, but where is the source for the information? A Google for the string "Tomas M Fleischmann" finds nothing except for this article. If the commonly used name is "Tomas Fleischmann", that is what should be used as the article title. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:52, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * We already have a Tomas Fleischmann who appears to be the primary topic. I guess the IP poster is the article creator, knows the subject privately, and perhaps added the initial for disambiguation. If the initial is not commonly used in public (zero Google hits is a very strong indicator of that) then Tomas M Fleischmann should be moved to Tomas Fleischmann (author) and a hatnote can be placed on Tomas Fleischmann. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:14, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

pronunciation
It's not really a question, more of a suggestion really. I use wiki mostly to look up scientific words I read in my textbooks and unless I have heard them in a lecture before I have no idea how to pronunce them, it would be great if we readers could hear the terms we look up in UK and US pronunciation. It would be very helpful, I'm sure a lot of people would use the feature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.200.49.7 (talk) 11:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * We are creeping up on 4 million articles. There are many articles that do provide pronunciation but not in comparison to that massive number. See Audio and various links and other templates mentioned in its documentation (there's also WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia for audio of entire articles). The thing is that we are a volunteer project, so when something is missing or would be a good addition a person needs to step up and act boldly themselves to make the edits required. To add spoken pronunciation this not only requires inclination and knowledge of the correct pronunciation but that the person have the technical know-how and equipment to do it, which leaves out a large number of editors. Note that our sister project, Wiktionary, provides pronunciation for some words where we do not. Lastly, many articles that do not provide spoken pronunciation do provide International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) notation so that you can learn the pronunciation without it being spoken, if you understand that notation system.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Science
Why does no-one reply at the Science desk? I'm not trying to be rude, but normally it's alot quicker.--213.107.74.132 (talk) 12:42, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * We're all volunteers, so we don't get paid to answer as fast as possible. And not all knowledgeable about every topic. Some even edit while at work. So give it some time and you'll get a response. Dismas |(talk) 12:47, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * (e/c) It looks to me like your questions at the science desk have been answered by multiple people. If you're talking about your follow-up question about bladders appearing underneath the answers you've already received, that was asked three hours ago which is not long time and it may be harder to spot since it isn't a new question in its own section. More the the point, we are a volunteer project. People answer if they have the inclination and knowledge to do so. It takes the time it takes.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:50, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * And follow-up to Horsepower.--213.107.74.132 (talk) 12:53, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * 213.107.74.132: Part of the problem, and I went over this with you on your talk page, is that when your questions are answered to the best of people's ability to answer them, you often ignore or cast aside these answers and then demand that the question be re-answered. It gets especially difficult for volunteers to answer your questions because a) you keep moving the target (changing the wording of a question slightly when someone provides an answer to your first question) b) refusing to do even basic work on your own (ignoring links to articles which can answer your questions, or refusing to very simple arithmatic when someone provides the answer in a slighlty different form than you want) c) asking infinite and subtly different variations on the same topic (such as asking one question on how often a human bladder needs to be emptied, then asking a followup question on how quickly a human bladder will fill up) d) asking for minutae so specific that it is unlikely (possible, but unlikely) that anyone except an expert in a very specific field would be able to answer.  This sort of thing goes on and on in your editing history, both under this IP address and a prior IP address you used, which had been blocked for many of these sorts of problems, both at the reference desks and at the article space.  Look 213.107.74.132, we really want to help you, but if you continue to abuse and wear out the patience of those trying to help, people are going to naturally become less helpful.  -- Jayron  32  05:07, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Help finding bad image (example.jpg) in Lonely Mountain article?
About 2/3 of the way down in Lonely Mountain there are numerous example.jpg's in a gallery. I can't find them in the article. I've tried Purge and I've tried looking in the images and portal that are linked in that area? Any ideas?Naraht (talk) 12:46, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Someone had vandalized the portal-inline template. I've fixed it.  Dismas |(talk) 12:50, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank You! I looked at the portal it was linking to, but not the portal-inline template.Naraht (talk) 13:20, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism
Why on earth do people vandalise pages? What's the point?--213.107.74.132 (talk) 13:13, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the same reason people like to watch David Letterman throw fruit off of buildings.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:21, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * In my opinion there is no easy answer to that question. Vandalism can take many different forms and I think there is a wide spectrum of motivations involved. Some people may simply find it funny, some other might do it out of frustration for an inability to "function" within the Wikipedia community. And other people might cause disruption unintentionally because they do not (yet) understand how Wikipedia is supposed to work. There might be numerous other motivations and these are only a few of them. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:24, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know about that. I love to watch Letterman throw stuff off buildings but hate vandalism. I think the vandalism thing is one of two things, either the person is a child or they view it as a challenge to see how long they can get the vandalism to stick or how big of an effect that they can have. Dismas |(talk) 13:25, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Please see The motivation of a vandal.--Shantavira|feed me 16:09, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Request move issue
I created a page about the national home decor retailer Kirkland's. It is all fact-based and correctly cited. I requested that is be moved from a draft located at User/Jdcharlton: Kirkland's to its own page - is this correct? It does not seem like the request went through properly. It looks like I requested to remove my personal account. Please let me know. Jdcharlton (talk) 18:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Someone has moved it for you, but has pointed out that it needs improvement. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:13, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Adding link to our site results in "spam" messages from Wikipedia
We are MerhabaTurkey.com and our website has a very narrow sphere of influence: It is written by, and is about, American Military who served during (and solved) the cold war in Turkey. For several years now we have been receiving much mail from students studying the cold war throughout the world and it dawned on us, that because of the historical nature of our website that we should have links to it in appropriate places on Wikipedia as it would help cut down on the amount of mail we receive.

We are a (very) non-profit organization which does not interfere with the articles written by our contributors. Consequently, our website is assigned in high school and college classes throughout the world particularly in Turkey.

So we elected to add links to our site in: a. places where the U.S. relationship with Turkey, military-wise, is a topic, b. places (Karamursel, Izmir, Ankara, Incirlik, Adana, etc.) where the U.S. Military had major bases in Turkey well more than 25 locations where we had smaller operating bases. c. places where the politics of the Cold War is discussed and where more information about the U.S. military presence in Turkey would play a valuable purpose, and where the first-hand information of our website would be educational.

BUT when we began adding links, we received messages from Wikipedia's automated software, accusing us of spamming Wikipedia, which is certainly not our intent.

Far from it: our intent is to see if we can cut down on the amount of emails and postal mail we receive by directing people right to the content they are looking for, and thereby trim the huge expenses we have to cover in responding to these requests - for which no income offsets.

If Wikipedia does not feel the information on our website is appropos to the topic of a particular page, we are certainly open to removing it. But we are not "spamming" and, in fact, are offering information not currently found on Wikipedia if one is trying to research the presence of the American military in Turkey (other than pages like Gallipoli, from another century). Jclaire1940 (talk) 18:59, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Please see Orange Mike's messages on your talk page. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:03, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

omission of my most recently published book on my page
On my page, for Robert Torrance, my most recently published book, Dante's INFERNO, a New Translation in Terza Rima (X-libris, 2011) is not included, and I was unable to add it. You can easily confirm its publication on Amazon.com. It is important to me to have my full bibliography listed on Wikipedia, so please do so. Thank you, Robert Torranc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.126.128.131 (talk) 19:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Vanity press publications are not generally worthy of note here. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  19:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually I've already added it, and in the process I removed some blatantly promotional content and tagged it as an unsourced WP:BLP. Mr. Torrance I recommend you use editrequest on Talk:Robert Torrance to suggest some reliable 3rd party references for the article otherwise it is liable to be deleted-- Jac 16888 Talk 19:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Without wanting to be rude, what is important to you is not the same as what is important to Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 21:41, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Pad_see_ew
Article may be vandalized with malware.

It sent Google Chrome into a tailspin, had to kill the process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.150.5.2 (talk) 22:11, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I am using Google Chrome also and am having no problems with the article. GB fan 22:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)