Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 September 3

= September 3 =

University of Tennessee health science center on Wikipedia
Tried to insert images on the page for the University of Tennessee health science center in Wikipedia but the insertions did not work and I could not remove the mages that were created as placeholders. Now the page is messed up and looks bad. Can someone remove the placeholder photo images until our IT department can handle the photo insertions next week? Thanks so much. 75.145.13.177 (talk) 00:01, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have reverted your additions back to the original version of the page. I should note that you should not be editing a page about an organization you work for.  Because you represent the interests of the organization, that is a conflict of interest (see Conflict of interest with the core mission of Wikipedia.  Besides the picture problems, the text you added was of an inappropriate tone for an encyclopedia.  If you have suggestions to changes you wish to make, use the "discussion" tab at the top of the pages and make a suggestion there, so that the proper changes can be made by people who don't represent the subject of the page.  We want the information in our articles to be as accurate and up-to-date as possible, but language which speaks of "the mission" of an organization and uses overly flowerly and glowing language to describe that organization are inappropriate to what is supposed to be a neutral source of information (see Neutral point of view).  We want your input in articles, but also be aware that because of your closeness to the subject, it may be difficult for you to write the actual text of the article in ways that may be compliant with Wikipedia policies.  I strongly urge you, and others at your organization, to read FAQ/Organizations for more info on how to work within the ethos of Wikipedia.  -- Jayron  32  00:10, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Poorly written Wikipedia process for suggesting a new article
Following your instructions during my attempt to add a new article for the motorcycle Honda NT700V, Wikipedia lead me to the Motorcycles subdivision and there WAS NO WAY or instructions on how to do it, just a list of red-letter articles. Poorly written, why don't you fix this and make a link or open up the way to make the suggestion an easy process? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmstarry (talk • contribs) 00:08, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Try going through Your first article instead. -- Jayron  32  00:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Table sorting with convert templates
In the WP:FLC of List of World Heritage in Danger I was asked to make the hyphened (em-dash) entries in the area columns sort like "0". I was trying to achieve this with sort but somehow it did not work. How do I make them sort as desired? bamse (talk) 06:59, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed using -- John of Reading (talk) 08:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. As far as I can see, the documentation of convert does not mention the ampersand. Does it need to be added to the documentation? bamse (talk) 08:51, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've updated the documentation for . -- John of Reading (talk) 09:13, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. bamse (talk) 11:39, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

News source plagiarising Wikipedia
I think I've spotted a news source plagiarising Wikipedia (i.e. using WP without acknowledgement). What steps should I take? News source here: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=7502 (look for the cross table near the bottom of the page), Wikipedia page here: Chess World Cup 2011. Adpete (talk) 07:04, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This would be hard to prove. I suspect that chessbase and the Wikipedia editors are maintaining the two charts independently using the raw data published by the official site. In any case, my understanding of Mirrors and forks is that you can do nothing about it; the only editors who could take action are those who contributed to that part of the Chess World Cup 2011 page. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * They definitely got it from us, the links in the chart go to non-existant pages of the format chessbasse.com/wiki/player name. In my opinion the chart doesn't meet the so called Threshold of originality, which means it can't be copyrighted and there is thus no need to acknowledge the source (though it would be polite). Yoenit (talk)
 * Actually comparing the HTML source of the two pages it is very clear that they've copied Wikipedia's HTML code, without ackowledgement. (And then they even have a "Copyright Chessbase" notice at the bottom of the page, though the page includes more than the plagiarised table). To me, what has been plagiarised is not the tournament scores, but the nice easy-to-read knockout tournament format which has been developed by many Wikipedia editors over the years. I'll also add that Chessbase is quite a respected source in the chess world, I have frequently used it for chess articles because I consider it a WP:Reliable Source. They're not a fork or mirror site like in the link suggested by John of Reading above, so I don't think the advice on that page is really relevant. As a frequent Chessbase reader, this seems to me like a one-off mistake by Chessbase. They will probably respond to a polite request to acknowledge Wikipedia (or better still, link to the article). But, does Wikipedia have any sort of policy on dealing with sort of thing, what I would call plagiarism? Adpete (talk) 10:20, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * By policy, I think you mean does Wikipedia have an article in which it describes the steps it takes if someone violates its copyright license. I can't find any, but at Wikipedia, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. All I can find is articles that say it's "unauthorized" to copy articles without attribution, e.g., see WP:COMPLIC.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the page I wanted is this one: Reusing Wikipedia content. I have sent Chessbase a (hopefully) gentle email about it, with a link to that page. Adpete (talk) 00:02, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Update: Chessbase never replied to my email, but the copied table has not been in the last two reports (Sept 8 and 9). Adpete (talk) 02:13, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

a topic entry suggestion for Hiljaiset Levyt record label in english
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Search:		Hiljaiset Levyt (All the words) Found:		66 result(s) on The Web Date:		9/3/2011 4:46:22 AM

1.	Hiljaiset Levyt - English Menu Never under construction, but updated often! Hiljaiset Levyt, P.O. Box 211, 33201 Tampere, Finland [ Archives][ Bands][ Catalogue][ Coming][ Company][ Demos][ E-directory ... http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/welcome.htm 92%

2.	Hiljaiset Levyt: TECHNICAL INFO AND CONTACT DATA Some thanks: Although Mr. Nice Guy Jukka Junttila himself has done most of this, he has got some help from the friends. So huge thanks to: Kari Lahtinen, Tapani Hiltunen, ... http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/technig.htm 89%

3.	PunkNet77 - Rezillos Profile of the band. http://hiljaiset.sci.fi/punknet/rezill_e.htm 89%

4.	Hiljaiset Levyt Tervetuloa Hiljaisten Levyjen sivuille. Valitse käyttökieli. Suomeksi In English. Welcome to the Hiljaiset Levyt web site. Please choose your language. http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/ 87%

5.	Hiljaiset Levyt: PUNKNET 77 - INDEX http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/punknet/ 87%

6.	Jalla Jalla - Minnesota Plates (1991) - YouTube Jun 26, 2010 ... Jalla Jalla Minnesota Plates (Hiljaiset Levyt HIKS026, 1991)Part of Finland's great punk rock explosion of the late 1980's / early 1990's, this ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsG4MshhNig 87%

7.	Hiljaiset Levyt – Wikipedia Hiljaiset Levyt on tamperelainen rock-musiikin julkaisuun keskittynyt levy-yhtiö, joka perustettiin vuonna 1985. Aluksi levymerkki toimi rekisteröidyn yhdistyksen ... http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiljaiset_Levyt 86%

8.	Hiljaiset Levyt - CDs and Vinyl at Discogs P.O. Box 211 33201 Tampere, Finland +358-3-3165770 hiljaiset@hiljaiset.sci.fi	http://www.discogs.com/label/Hiljaiset+Levyt 85%

9.	Hiljaiset Levyt: JALLA JALLA Hiljaiset Levyt - Wikipedia http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/bands/jalla_e.htm 84%

10.	Hiljaiset Levyt: PUNKNET 77 - INDEX - eiNET Hiljaiset Levyt: PUNKNET 77 - INDEX Some people call it old school punk, some people say original punk, some people say '77 punk and some people call part of it new wave ... http://www.einet.net/review/975050-655710/Hiljaiset_Levyt_PUNKNET_77_INDEX.htm 82%

11.	Hiljaiset Levyt: JUGGLING JUGULARS Hiljaiset Levyt - Wikipedia Hiljaiset Levyt on tamperelainen rock-musiikin julkaisuun keskittynyt levy-yhtiö, joka perustettiin vuonna 1985. Aluksi levymerkki toimi rekisteröidyn yhdistyksen ... http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/bands/jugg_e.htm 81%

12.	Johnny Spunky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Johnny Spunky, actually Juha Kaarsalo, is a Finnish musician, songwriter und author. His early synthesizer works were published by the Finnish record label Hiljaiset Levyt in Tampere, Finland, and brought to an international audience by John... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Spunky 81%

13.	Punknet 77 - Circle Jerks Includes discography, and trivia. http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/punknet/circle_e.htm 81%

14.	S Sami Saari • Sami Saari • Anneli Saaristo [Official]; Sakari Saarni os Vidros [@ UJO/Hiljaiset Levyt]; Sadetanssi [Official]; Saine • Arja Saijonmaa [Official]; Sairio ... http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~latvis/yhtyeet/s.html 79%

15.	Jalla Jalla Virallinen kotisivu, jolla biografia, diskografia ja valokuvia. http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/bands/jalla_s.htm 78%

16.	Hiljaiset Levyt - Site about the Finnish punk label home to ... Business, Arts and Entertainment, Music, Labels - Hiljaiset Levyt. Site about the Finnish punk label home to Juggling Jugulars, Jalla Jalla and Terveet Kadet just to name ... http://www.abc-directory.com/site/647081 76%

17.	Wolfmen's Discography | Facebook Label: Hiljaiset levyt. Release Date: 1998. Number of Tracks: 14. Brutal (CD) ( HILL-019). Label: Hiljaiset levyt. Release Date: 1994. Number of Tracks: 11 ... http://www.facebook.com/discography/?id=33296109603 76%

18.	Punknet 77 Some people call it old school punk, some people say original punk, some people say '77 punk and some people call part of it new wave or power pop; all about punk. http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/punknet/punkidx.htm 75%

19.	Noise.fi :: Hiljaiset Levyt 20 vuotta: Alivaltiosihteeri, ... 30. syyskuu 2005 ... Huomattavasti energisemmän setin tarjosi Kätyrit, joka on toinen Hiljaisten Levyjen kahdesta aktiivibändistä. Bändin omintakeinen tyyli syntyy ... http://www.noise.fi/livearvostelut/?id=387 73%

20.	Hobby Hall Valikoimissa viihde-elektroniikka, kodinkoneet, astiat, sisustus, vaatteet, vapaa-ajan tarvikkeet, CD-levyt ja lelut. Meklari-huutokauppa. http://www.hobbyhall.fi/ 72%

21.	www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/ - Hiljaiset Levyt - Clasament, statistici ... Kitararockiin erikoistunut levy-yhtiö. ... Arts and Culture. Business and Economy; Entertainment; Internet, Communications http://www.top20.md/int/info/hiljaisetscifi 72%

22.	Juggling Jugulars Discography at Discogs http://www.discogs.com/artist/Juggling+Jugulars 70%

23.	ALIVALTIOSIHTEERI: Tylsää (Hiljaiset Levyt 7") - release ...	Information on Finnish pop music from Finland ... label: catalogue number: format: release date: Hiljaiset Levyt: HIKS-033: 7" summer 1992 http://www.finnmusic.net/main.php?62595d59480775535112 69%

24.	NetAnttila Tuotevalikoima kattaa CDja DVD-levyt, elektroniikka, urheilu, koti ja sisustus, vaatteet ja asusteet sekä lelut. http://www.netanttila.com/ 68%

25.	999 (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 999 are an English rock band who formed in London in 1977. They are often cited as one of the first punk rock bands. Between 1978 and 1981, they had five Top 75 singles in the UK... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/999_(band) 66%

26.	Hiljaiset Levyt Etusivu > Hiljaiset Levyt. Ostoskori. 0 tuotetta. Kategoriat. Rocket Records • Muut levyt • POP-lehdet • POP-kirjat • Muut kirjat • POP-paidat • DVD-elokuvat ... http://shop.pop-lehti.fi/hiljaiset_levyt?sort=pd.name&order=ASC 66%

27.	Pokerimarketti.fi Pokerimarketti myy pelimerkit, pelipöydät, pelikortit, kirjat sekä DVD-levyt. http://www.pokerimarketti.fi	65%

28.	Wolfmen – Free listening, videos, concerts, stats, & pictures ... Wolfmen has previously released three albums under the Hiljaiset Levyt label. ” The Shadow War”, Discover more music, concerts, videos, and pictures with the ... http://www.last.fm/music/Wolfmen 65%

29.	Punk Lurex | Free Music, Tour Dates, Photos, Videos Resulting in Punk Lurex OK, the band debuted its self-released first EP Tappajan Silmät/Paalimajassa in 1994 and signed to Hiljaiset Levyt Records soon after. http://www.myspace.com/punklurex 63%

30.	Pro Ex Team Karaokepalvelut, ohjelmapalvelut, karaoke, laitteet, levyt. http://www.pro-xteam.com 62%

31.	MY FINNISH PUNK COLLECTION Hiljaiset Levyt HIKS-004 1987 with Maaseudun Tulevaisuus,Maho Neitsyt,CMX ... Hiljaiset Levyt HIKS-013 1989 with Perestroika,Surfin' Dead Boys,Primitive ... http://koti.mbnet.fi/votev/Vote/MyCollection.html 61%

32.	A. Aallon Rytmiorkesteri Orkesterin historia, levyt, keikat ja fanituotteet. http://www.a-aallon-rytmiorkesteri.fi/ 59%

33.	Phantom Tones | Free Music, Tour Dates, Photos, Videos Record Label Hiljaiset Levyt. Type of Label Indie. Bio.. I edited my profile with ..Thomas' Myspace Editor V4.4..... Hi there. We're a rock & roll band from Finland. http://www.myspace.com/thephantomtones 59%

34.	Hiljaiset Levyt: PunkNet77 - Abrasive Wheels Johnny Spunky - Wikipedia on Ask.com Source var wikiImage = new Image; wikiImage.onload = function { if (this.height His early synthesizer works were published by the Finnish record label Hiljaiset Levyt ("silent records") in Tampere, Finland, and brou	http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/punknet/abwhee_e.htm	58%

35.	Alivaltiosihteeri – Hikipedia 8. tammikuu 2011 ... Eduskuntatalo (Hiljaiset Levyt, 1987); Tasavallan presidentti II (Hiljaiset Levyt, 1989); Yhteiskunta - rakenne ja toiminta (Hiljaiset Levyt, 1990) ... http://hikipedia.info/wiki/Alivaltiosihteeri 57%

36.	ÄÄRETÖN JOULU 7" EP	Label: Hiljaiset Levyt Cat#: HIKS-016 Format: 7" EP Year: 1989: Reviews: With this release, T.Kädet come of age and prove they're among the world's best hardcore bands. http://www.killfromtheheart.com/albums.php?id=2750&band_id=1032 56%

37.	Jean S. Bailubändin viralliset kotisivut. Keikkakalenteri ja levyt. http://www.s-music.fi/ 55%

38.	Johnny SPUNKY: MUTATIO VITALIS (Hiljaiset 7" EP) - release ...	Information on Finnish pop music from Finland ... label: catalogue number: format: release date: Hiljaiset Levyt: HIKS-022: 7" EP: 1990 http://www.finnmusic.net/main.php?62565955480775535112 55%

39.	Kätyrit | Free Music, Tour Dates, Photos, Videos Hiljaiset Levyt.... record label, which has this far resulted in Helmikuu-CDEP (" February"), Silminnäkijä-CD ("The Eyewitness") and Avoimella maalla-CDEP (" On ...	http://www.myspace.com/katyrit	53%

40.	ULO - Discogs Search - Discogs - Database and Marketplace for ... Various 10 Vuotta Myöhemmin Hiljaiset Levyt HIKS-004 ULO (2) none Vinyl 7" 33 ? RPM Finland 1987	http://www.discogs.com/search?type=all&q=ULO	53%

41.	A-Ha Norjalaisyhtyeen levyt, esitelmä, kuvia ja linkkejä. http://koti.welho.com/tkuusio/aha/ 52%

42.	Johnny Spunky - Wikipedia on Ask.com Jalla Jalla - Wikipedia Tamperelainen Hiljaiset Levyt -yhtiö julkaisi useita Jalla Jallan albumeita ... http://www.ask.com/wiki/Johnny_Spunky 52%

43.	Jalla Jalla - Wikipedia Alivaltiosihteeri (yhtye) - Wikipedia Yhtye levytti Hiljaiset Levyt -nimiselle levy-yhtiölle ja sen tuotanto oli ... http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalla_Jalla 49%

44.	Marion Rung Laulajattaren terveiset, historiikki, levyt, valokuva-albumi, keikat ja tilaukset. http://www.marionrung.com/ 49%

45.	Alivaltiosihteeri (yhtye) - Wikipedia http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alivaltiosihteeri_(yhtye) 48%

46.	Hiljaiset Levyt - hiljaiset.sci.fi - PageInsider.com Learn more about hiljaiset.sci.fi. Get estimated domain worth, rank, and traffic. Get Whois for hiljaiset.sci.fi. http://www.pageinsider.com/hiljaiset.sci.fi	46%

47.	Jari Sillanpää Historia, levyt, keikat, kuvia ja fanclub. http://www.jarisillanpaa.com/ 46%

48.	Lowdown CDs, Vinyl Records, CD Singles, Used CD's and Music Albums ... Lowdown Shakin' Chills: I Don't Wanna Say Goodbye) HILJAISET LEVYT HIKS023 Finland 91 EXNM : 7" 1 listed: $8	http://www.musicstack.com/records-cds/lowdown	46%

49.	God's Lonely Men - Welcome to Noise For Heroes and NKVD Records! One of the first Finnish singles I ever got was the God's Lonely Men record "Price I Have To Pay" on Hiljaiset Levyt. It immediately caught my ear with the ... http://www.nkvdrecords.com/godslone.htm 43%

50.	Johnny Spunky facts - Freebase His early synthesizer works were published by the Finnish record label Hiljaiset Levyt ("silent records") in Tampere, Finland, and brought to an international audience by ... http://www.freebase.com/view/en/johnny_spunky 43%

51.	Anita Hirvonen Keikat, kuvia, historia, levyt ja yhteystiedot. http://www.anitahirvonen.com/ 42%

52.	Hakutulos levymerkille Hiljaiset levyt hiki 003 ( lp ) Levymerkki, Hiljaiset levyt hiki 003 ( lp ), 33-kierroksen LP-levy. Levyn nimi, Tasavallan presidentti ii. Kappale, Esittäjä, Sovittaja, Äänitetty. Esiintymisestä sun ... http://www.aanitearkisto.fi/firs2/fi/levymerkki.php?Id=Hiljaiset+levyt+hiki+003+(+lp+) 42%

53.	Jalla Jalla In 1988 they recorded a four song ep for Hiljaiset Levyt, which was called "Goes Pop". Like their first record, this is now sold out and impossible to get. With two ... http://www.nkvdrecords.com/jalla.htm 42%

54.	Kätyrit – Free listening, concerts, stats, & pictures at ... Kätyrit is a Helsinki-based Finnish foursome that plays fast, witty and fun rockpunk. They record on Hiljaiset Levyt which is a small independent record company, so ... http://www.last.fm/music/kätyrit 42%

55.	Saija Varjus Tausta, levyt, kuvat ja keikat. http://www.mediamusiikki.fi/saijavarjus/ 39%

56.	The Wolfmen - Pandora Internet Radio Consisting of Jallu Korpi (vocals), Zimi Söderberg (guitar), Moke Laine (drums), Mixa Huhdanpää (bass), and Elmo Koskinen (guitar), Hiljaiset Levyt Records eventually ... http://www.pandora.com/music/artist/wolfmen 37%

57.	Eija Kantola Taustaa, levyt, kuvia ja keikkakalenteri. http://www.eijakantola.net/ 36%

58.	Lowdown Shakin' Chills – Wikipedia Viimeisen keikkansa yhtye soitti syksyllä 1994. Lowdown Shakin' Chills äänitti Hiljaiset Levyt -yhtiölle albumit Up My Spine (1992) ja Sex Is Boring (1994). ...	http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowdown_Shakin'_Chills 36%

59.	Heidi Kyrö Tausta, ajankohtaista, levyt, keikat, kuvat ja fanclub. http://www.heidikyro.fi/ 33%

60.	Punk Lurex OK | AllMusic Rating • Year ascending order, Title • Label • Hatut Ja Myssyt, Hiljaiset Levyt. Hatut Ja Myssyt • Prolex, Hiljaiset Levyt. Prolex. 2002, Aika Vapaa, Hiljaiset Levyt ... http://www.allmusic.com/artist/punk-lurex-ok-p484798/discography 33%

61.	Mikko Alatalo Faktat, levyt ja kokoelma kirjoituksia taiteilijasta. http://www.mikkoalatalo.net/ 29%

62.	Petteri Mikkilä Discography at Discogs « Prev 12345678910Next » http://www.discogs.com/artist/Petteri+Mikkilä 29%

63.	Suomijazz Tietoa suomalaisesta jazzista; uutiset, artistit, levyt, keikat, festivaalit, keskustelu. http://www.suomijazz.com/ 26%

64.	Wolfmen biography Also in 1990 came out the first Hiljaiset Levyt -release, a single ”I'm Insane/Lost”. Wolfmen has previously released three albums under the Hiljaiset Levyt label. ...	http://www.wolfmen.fi/biography.html 26%

65.	The Nightingales | AllMusic ... guitar/vocals), Jorma Pirttijärvi (piano/organ/accordion), Ari Mäkitulkkila (drums), and Marko Kantola (vocals/bass) would eventually sign to Hiljaiset Levyt and ...	http://www.allmusic.com/artist/the-nightingales-p484796	25%

66.	Punknet 77 - Agent Orange Profile, discography, and links. http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/punknet/agento_e.htm 23%

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.168.214 (talk) 11:48, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to correct my user name after registering for the first time today.
I entered my username in all lower case today, but the system (inappropriately) capitalized the first character, giving an unintended emphasis to my first name vs. my last. How can I edit my username? davidcassirer (talk) 15:40, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The system will always make the first letter upper case. For requesting a name change please visit: WP:CHU/S. Jarkeld (talk) 15:44, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

putting images in an article
I now have a draft article, but need to include .jpg images. How do I upload images and put them in my article?TankhouseTom (talk) 16:49, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
 * If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add  to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing   with the actual file name of the image, and   with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add  to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing   with the actual file name of the image, and   with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

researching my family history
I am researching my family history. Due to records not available after 1954 I am finding this task difficult. I know that my Uncle William frederick Howard emigrated to Australia in 1929. I know he still lived in perth when his brother R0bert Oliver Howard died in 1979, in Fairfield Queensland. I have now found records from the Cremetorium with his death listed in 1985. I know there must be children but do not know where to get the information from. I would appreciate any help you could give me. Many thanks for your time. Barbara Honey. UK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.107.109 (talk) 17:48, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  17:58, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

AIDS roster addition
Hello, Wikipedia, Please add Graham Chapman, of Monty Python's Flying Circus, to your roster. He was the first AIDS death that effected me personally. Thank you. Pamela Kimmell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.95.237.45 (talk) 17:53, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, this page is for questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia, rather than for making suggestions about individual articles: the best place for this is usually the talk page for the relevant article. Regarding Graham Chapman, our article states that he died of throat/spinal cancer, and makes no mention of HIV/AIDS. I'll look into this further though, and if I can find any more information, add it to the article. Meanwhile, if you know of a source for the suggestion that he died of AIDS, perhaps you could post it on Talk:Graham Chapman. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:27, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Creating pages with preloaded content
Hi. I wasn't sure if I should ask this at VPT or here, but since it's technically about how to use Wikipedia, I decided to ask it here. If I should move this, point me in the right direction.

I would like to be able to create a page from a redlink with preloaded content. this section on WP:RFA does it with an input box using the page parameter, but I would like to do it with a redlink. There are redlinks in Template:NRHP Article Archive and Template:NRHP Picture Archive that users click on to archive new pictures/articles every month. Each month's archive has the same basic formatting: archive header at the top, followed by a search box, followed by a link to the opposite archive (i.e. picture archives link to article archives and vice versa), then an h2 heading, followed by the list. I've successfully moved a lot of this into the two templates above, but when a user clicks on the redlinks, I would like for the resultant pages to preload the template call, as well as the month/year heading seen on all the archive pages in the above templates. Specifically, I would like the new pages to be preloaded with the following content:
 * Article archives:


 * Picture archives:

Does anyone know how to accomplish this? Thanks!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 17:53, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Air Lease Corporation ( ALC)
Very important information ommitted:

Air Lease Corporation went public in April 2011, raised $ 922 Million in equity, and is listed on the NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE  under the symbol  "AL"

ALC has more than 234 new aircraft on order from Boeing (BA)    Airbus   (EADS ) Embraer and ATR

ALC is one of the largest commercial customers of Boeing and Airbus, the two largest civil aircraft manufacturers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.248.39 (talk) 19:16, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is the encyclopedia anybody can edit. If you can find a reliable source feel free to add this not so very important information to the Air Lease article.  Astronaut (talk) 19:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


 * DONE. Thanks for the ALC news. I have updated article "Air Lease" (ALC) with most of that data, confirmed in 3 sources. Feel free to edit more. The expanded orders were also big news in U.S. cities related to the new aircraft. Thanks again. -Wikid77 21:01, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

link
i need a link from your white dead nettle to put on my site....how do i do it please, an easy way please thanku  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misslindajane's photography (talk • contribs) 19:34, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I assume you mean one of the images appearing in the Lamium album article. If you click on the image you are interested in, you will be taken to a page of information about that image including its licence and copyright conditions.  If the image copyright information says you can copy it, then you can download the image to your computer.  Once downloaded, you can then upload the image to your own website.  Note that many images only permit copying if you attribute the image to its original author (I suggest a suitably worded caption on your website might serve well).  Astronaut (talk) 19:51, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Where to get 50 helpers for WP:GOCE backlog
I already posted a request in WP:Editor assistance/Requests, but I am unsure where else to ask for 50 editors to join a backlog-editing drive, this time for copy-editing (grammar, punctuation, wikilinks) during the month of September:
 * WP:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/September 2011

That project page (above), from Wikiproject WP:GOCE, explains the process for editing articles (from 2010-2011) to correct the grammar, tone, and "References" section (etc.). For example, there are over 100 articles which need to be updated from April 2010:
 * Category:Wikipedia_articles_needing_copy_edit_from_April_2010

Currently, there are 30 editors who quickly signed up to help with the editing, but it would be good to have about 80 editors (50 more people). Each article takes about 1 hour, and with 80 people, then each could edit less than 10 articles, if possible, during September. I wonder where else I could post a message to ask for helpers. -Wikid77 (talk) 20:09, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll sign up! I've been looking for things to do lately. You can check my contribs, especially to Virginia and Truckee Railroad to evaluate my MOS adherence. I'm usually pretty good with the Chicago Manual of Style, which the WP MOS seems to be based upon... just the darn em-dash/en-dash things still gets me. :)  &#x2622; Prompt Critical &#x2622;  00:20, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Would my Signature be considered obnoxious?
Just wondering. I've been playing around with it, and don't want to run afoul of any standards we may have. That said, I've seen far worse, but of course that's not an excuse. All opinions welcome!  &#x2622; Prompt Critical   &#x2622;    20:44, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


 * One problem might be that your signature takes up a lot of space in the edit window. Signatures says "Signatures that take up more than two or three lines in the edit window clutter the page and make it harder to distinguish posts from signatures." For me, it nearly fills three lines in the edit window, so if possible you should consider shortening your signature. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Your signature did brighten up my evening. One disadvantage is that it is more prominent than the preceding text, and almost everything else on the page, so it might detract from the message you're trying to convey. Certes (talk) 21:08, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Perhaps use gold and reduce 1 font-tag: As you might known, the style="xx;yy;zz" can combine multiple entries, separated by semicolons (";"). Also, the color "yellow" seems too bright, so try "gold" instead. The reduced signature might be:
 *  &amp;#x2622; Prompt Critical &amp;#x2622; 
 * To look like:   &#x2622; Prompt Critical &#x2622; 
 * What do you think of those changes, as shorter, with gold? -Wikid77 21:16, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks Wikid77! I had considered Gold for just that reason. The Black-on-yellow is/was supposed to invoke a nuclear warning message, but since those are intended per se to scream at the viewer, I agree that might be too much. How does this look now, length-wise? *edit: that time it was broken across 2 lines at the word break, so I tacked on a NBSP...  &#x2622; Prompt Critical &#x2622;  23:26, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

messed up redirect
Today I created the article Carlo Musso. While checking "what links here" after I'd moved it into article space, I noticed that there had been a bunch of redlinks to the article, but that they referred to an Italian film director with the same name. I tried to fix this situation by moving the new article to Carlo Musso (physician), but that created a redirect which will continue to mess up those redlinks. I'm sorry if there was something I should have read before I did this, it didn't occur to me to look until I'd seen what had happened. Anyway, now I have no idea what to do, and am hoping someone here can help. &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 21:23, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * One option is to change Carlo Musso from a redirect to a disambiguation page, with a working link to your text at Carlo Musso (physician) and a redlink to Carlo Musso (director). (Click on Redirected from Carlo Musso to get the redirect page.)  Then revise the existing links to Carlo Musso (the ones which were red but are now blue) to point directly to one of those two pages, probably the director. Certes (talk) 22:50, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I have changed the links about the director to point to terh redlink Carlo Musso (director), and then moved the new article back to Carlo Musso since it is currently the only article about a person by that name. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:52, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that sounds better. Carlo Musso (physician) now redirects to Carlo Musso, so the link from Participation of medical professionals in American executions still works. Certes (talk) 23:03, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * thank you so much! &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 00:12, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Crop white space, desharpen
Hello. Can someone crop the whitespace and desharpen File:1893 Stanford Amercian football team.jpg? Thanks. Albacore (talk) 21:37, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This sounds like a job for Graphic Lab/Photography workshop. They have a request form where you can ask an image editor to help out.  Certes (talk) 22:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)