Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 September 30

= September 30 =

My Edit Missing
I have edited the Page "Powerful Numbers" and added a Java Source Code but it is missing, I wanted to know where I gone Wrong! - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beeebeees (talk • contribs) 09:57, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The explanations for the 2 reversions are in the page history. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:04, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Edits missing
I edited the following list by adding an Actor from the State of Kansas. After about 10 to 15 minutes, the edit was erased like it had never been done. I even added a link to the Internet Movie Database for verification. Why is it being erased and by whom?

List of people from Kansas

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timwest1156 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The person you are adding doesn't have their own Wikipedia article. It is generally accepted that a person is only notable enough for a list if they are notable enough to have their own article.  If you have any specific disagreements or a rationale to include the person, you can discuss it on the talk page of the article.  In order to find out who is modifying an article and why look at the revision history under the "view history" tab.  Under that tab you can view all changes and edit summaries.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  00:43, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) Click the "View history" tab to see the page history: . Such lists are usually only for people who already have a Wikipedia biography. See Notability (people) for biography criteria. I notice your username is similar to the person you are trying to add. See Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:44, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Most of your edits were removed because the people you were adding don't have an article in Wikipedia. A lot of lists like this are limited to entries that have articles.  We need to draw the line for inclusion somewhere.  If we didn't the lists would get filled up with non-notable entries.  The way to fix this is to write an article on the people first then add them to the list.  If you do write articles for these people you need to show that they meet our notability guidelines by providing multiple reliable sources that give significant coverage of them.  Just having an IMDB entry does not show they are notable.  GB fan 00:47, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Winter (dolphin)
According to the website of the site Winter lives, she was found in December 2005 not 2006. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.6.108.60 (talk) 01:40, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It was actually inconsistent, saying 2006 in the lead, and 2005 in the body, I have confirmed the December 2005 date through this source and have fixed the date in the lead section. When you find errors in article like this, you can be bold and fix them yourself, though note what I did: I looked for a reliable source, and that is the touchstone you should use when changing information.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Server error
I keep getting the following error message when I attempt a contributions search in the Wikipedia Talk namespace:

Proxy Error

The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET /wikipedia/en/w/index.php.

Reason: Error reading from remote server

Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.12wm1 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at secure.wikimedia.org Port 443

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? ---  RepublicanJacobite  TheFortyFive 02:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I suggest posting this in Village pump (technical) instead. There are more people there who might be able to help with these kinds of problems.--  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   14:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'll do that. Thanks! ---  RepublicanJacobite  TheFortyFive  18:10, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Userboxes
If a userbox is unused (ie on no userpages) is that a valid reason to TfD or MfD it and if so, which of the two venues would be the correct one? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:22, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * MFD. Regards.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ Hey it's me 11:25, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:44, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Transclusion problem
Why does Template:User Awards/doc not show up in the documentation box at Template:User Awards? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:43, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I purged the page and everything works now. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  13:47, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Allright. Thanks very much. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:50, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Changes to format
This new larg print pageformate is really, really stupid and hard to read. If you must make this change (for whatever reason) why was there not provided a switch or button to go back to the old format. Who the hell was this new format designed for. I'm 67 years old and I don't have vision problems yet. Please change it back to the way it was, or allow the user to make the change back in an asy manner. Thank you. (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.107.46.241 (talk) 14:07, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * People have this problem all the time; however, it is not Wikipedia's fault. We have not changed the print format.  What probably happened is that the zoom size on your browser was changed.  This link should explain to you how to change it back.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  14:15, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Reactivate sockpuppet investigation
Is this the right way to reactivate an archived sockpuppet investigation? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 15:48, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * No, you shouldn't change an archived investigation. You should raise a new SPI report, which will automatically be added to Sockpuppet investigations/Cherylfabrizi (which links to the old archive so that investigators can see the history), then when the investigation is completed it will get added to the archive. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:59, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks! --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Article Help
Regarding (see below for prior correspondence):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Gail_Albert_Halaban

Thank you Ukexpat, so If I use Nytimes articles, etc. that review her work as an artist as opposed to articles where her work simply appears, I can resubmit? Also, how do I make hyperlink people and places in my article that are already wikipedia pages?

Thank you very much for your response and your help.

My sources are all reliable: Nytimes, a gallery website, etc.

Can someone help me fix the problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.167.46.66 (talk) 15:49, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Just resubmit it in the AFC process by adding to the top of the draft, as per the instructions. – ukexpat (talk) 16:31, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Ukexpat, please check first the references and the history before giving such advises. I declined this article since it has only primary or secondary sources in and no third party sources. The NYTimes may publish works of this person, but this indicates only that this person has a job and getting paid for it. This is no indication of notability. The articles/references don't talk about that person! mabdul 17:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * You need to cite sources that discuss her work. Eg, I have written articles for newspapers and online websites, but that fact alone does not make me notable. If a reliable source discussed my articles and concluded that they were the best thing since sliced bread, that may make me notable. In short, you need to cite significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources to establish notability. To link to another page on English Wikipedia, just enclose the page title in double square brackets - so Elvis Presley renders as Elvis Presley. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 18:10, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Company changed name
Officenet changed, on February 28th, its name to Staples Argentina. I do not know how to apply that change to the page and to others referring to it. To verify: Clarín newspaper, from Argentina — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.123.104.218 (talk) 16:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The move button is under the down arrow at the top right-hand corner of the page, but you may not be able to move the article if you're not auto-confirmed, so I've moved it for you. Other pages linking to Officenet are listed at Special:WhatLinksHere/Officenet, so you can work down there to make the changes if you wish. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:48, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Volks Wagen Vento
I have booked Vento Trndline Car at Tornado Motors Pvt. Ltd., Santacruz West, Mumbaui. I have also taken a loan from Volks Wagen Finance Co. being interest free for one year.

While booking the car I was told that Car will be available to use from 1st October, 2011 or 2nd October, 2011. To my utter surprise there is no intimation when the car will be ready for delivery. Only on my anxiety and inquiry with the person whose contact I have, informs me that due to R.T.O. Authorities order registration is getting delayed. I failed to understand that company like volks wagen is tolerating such dealers for their inefficiencies and putting Volks Wagen customers at a loss.

I have paid entire amount including loan component to this Tornado Motors Pvt Ltd. There is no written communication so far for receipt of the amount and what further action is needed. If this is what is ISO standards are followed by such companies associated with multinational, I am afraid as a well wisher of Volks Wagen, they will loose their ground in India.

While booking the car I was told that vendors for Volks Wagen get a discount. I am a Director in Aunde India Limited (a public limited company who supplies Automotive Cloth to many companies in India including Volks Wagen)and therefore I had submitted a letter to that effect. Nothing has been written or refuted till date.

Threfore, I am loosing trust in Volks Wagen and the associates with whom they are dealing. May i address this to the Managing Director of Volks Wagen at Germany which will be eye opener and at least people like me would not suffer. I have lost valuable time, energy as well as money. Moreover mental agony. Under this circumstances please let me know if I cancel my booking what amount I have to loose with Tornado Motors and Volks Wagen Finance. I do not want any reply from Tornado Motors as I have lost faith in this dealer and I feel they have cheated me.

(Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.60.18.8 (talk) 16:57, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:41, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I am a fairly knowledgeable editor
remembering that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. I just created a stub at Sculpture Review. A magazine. It was formerly known as National Sculpture Review and I would like to place a "redirect" at the latter page, but do not know how to do it. We have 4 choices. (1) I can fumble around and try to figure it out. (2) You can do it. (3) You can tell me how to do it. (4) Something else. I have you "watched" so edit away or head for my discussion page. See you later, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:15, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * First, delete the stub. Second, move the existing page to the new name. That will automatically create the redirect. Third, edit the moved page with current information. -- k a i n a w &trade; 17:19, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think that was what he wanted to do. He merely wanted to create a redirect, as the stub was created under the correct name.--  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   17:29, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * You simply add  #redirect Sculpture Review  on the page you want to redirect to the article. I have done so. Also see Redirect. However, please add more sources to Sculpture Review. A single primary source is not sufficient to prove notability and the article may be deleted.--  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   17:23, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit conflicts all over the place! Thanks all, esp. the OS, editor who choose to actually do the redirect (though I will file the process away for later use). I created this stub to get rid of red ink elsewhere and to create other links in other articles that mention either NSR or SR, but are not linked. Notability? The magazine has been around for 60 years and is the official mouthpiece for the NSS. There are many instances of the magazine being used as a source in other articles, so it seems to have passed that notability test. Add it to the Articles to be deleted if you must, but I do believe that you will loose that one. Carptrash (talk) 17:38, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Nah. I've already googled it. :P I'm an AWWDMBJAWGCAWAIFDSPBATDMTD-ian. I don't AfD on technicalities. I don't AfD at all, heh. --  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   17:46, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia tool for finding where two editors have worked together
Somewhere I have seen a tool wherein a person can enter the usernames of two Wikipedia editors, and then the tool outputs all of the Wikipedia articles which both of those editors have edited.

Can someone give me the link to this thing? Thanks.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)   17:55, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's called "stalker" and can be found here. It is one of the tools listed at Tools. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:43, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Gosh, am I stalking? Thanks for this.   Blue Rasberry    (talk)   22:41, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Another such tool is Intersect Contribs, also listed on the Tools page. Deor (talk) 23:21, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

what's user's name
what do you mean by "User's name"I put my name and it was said to be wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.9.233.45 (talk) 19:20, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Have you registered a Wikipedia user's account? For details of that process, see WP:WHY.  If you have registered, you will have chosen a user name and password;  if not, you can continue to use Wikipedia, but with some restrictions and disadvantages.  - David Biddulph (talk) 19:29, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Question
Can our business BackFit Chiropractic And Rehab be listed on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azkicker (talk • contribs) 19:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I doubt it: see Notability (organizations and companies). You should read Conflict of interest too - writing articles about your own business is most inadvisable. Note also that an article on a business is open to (properly sourced) editing by anyone - negative as well as positive issues. An article on Wikipedia isn't always a good thing for a business. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Also note that this is an encyclopedia, not a business listing service. If your business is notable, someone will come along an write an encyclopedia article about it.  Astronaut (talk) 10:30, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Try WikiCompany. – ukexpat (talk) 15:50, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Is this article, up to par?
Bearpaw (footwear), is a notable brand of footwear, and I was wondering where I could go to get revision help/and or expansion. If this is the right place, then happy day. If it looks okay, then no problem. Much appreciated. Tinton5 (talk) 21:05, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * No - see Notability (organizations and companies). Without evidence for the degree of notability we require, from independent reliable sources, the article is likely to be deleted. Frankly, I'm surprised it lasted this long in its present unsourced state. If you have any affiliation with Bearpaw, you should also read WP:COI. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It has one source. But sure it could use more, that is the key. Tinton5 (talk) 23:42, 30 September 2011 (UTC)