Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 September 4

= September 4 =

Banning an IP?
Hello,

This page often gets some hidden advertisement in it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_handicap

"Soccerbettingmasters, established in 2006, is the current documented Champion of this style Sports Betting."

He/she does not provide any footnote. Furthermore, I have worked in both internet marketing and am nowadays a professional bettor. From my experience I can tell that their page looks like a typical scam page.

Is there something we can do about it like giving an IP ban? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Desideriuss (talk • contribs) 00:21, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It looks like that article is nearly only edited by IPs. If multiple IPs are posting the link, an IP ban would do little to deter them.  You could either ask for page protection at WP:RFPP or get the site blacklisted from Wikipedia.  You can see more about that at WP:BLACKLIST.  Dismas |(talk) 00:25, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Gambling pages are targets for spammers here. Spammers receive warnings, and repeat spammers get blocked; see Spam and Blocking policy. Christopher Connor (talk) 00:31, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * suitably warned for repeatedly adding advertising to Asian handicap and related articles. Astronaut (talk) 14:29, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Wrong information on how old Octavius Winslow was when he died.
On Octavius Winslow's wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavius_Winslow to the right underneath his picture, it says he was born in August of 1808, and died in March of 1878, and that he was 43 years old. That's obviously not right, since basic math says that he would have been 69 at the time of his death. I tried fixing it, but I can't seem to find where it lists his age in the edit page. Any help would be much appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.185.7 (talk) 04:28, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It was in the infobox, in the "death date and age" template. I fixed it.  -- Jayron  32  04:32, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Login trouble
Hello, this is Wikipedia user known as 'City of Lukington'. I can be seen on editing history of articles such as 'Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea', and my talk-page can be viewed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:City_of_Lukington I am interested in cartography evidently.

However, today, without having ever logged out, I have lost the ability to log in again. I have tried logging in under the names 'City of Lukington' and 'Lukington', using all password I can possibly think of which I have for this and other sites I use. I was not able to find help on the 'contact us' page and so turn to writing a formal e-mail to what I hope will be a human being.

Yours sincerely,

L Perricone (alias City of Lukington) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.148.152.219 (talk) 10:26, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you have an email associated with your account? If so: try the mail a new password option at the login screen. Jarkeld (talk) 10:34, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I see User:City of Lukington has edited since this post so I guess the problem is solved. If you store an email address at Special:Preferences then you can request a new password by email another time. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:20, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Why post stuff I have to pay for - shame!
Quicky question - why do you keep posting old and interesting articles that I go into and have to pay for from various greedy newspaper companies? Isn't there enough info on the web for free to get info without paying? (I know there is - I write for a movie site for free, don't get paid and charge nobody anything - all for the love of the fan!) PLEASE stop posting stuff that's not free and clear of money hungry desperados - it's super annoying!

J. "stop the links to paying articles" Coleman — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.119.161 (talk) 10:54, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ideally newspaper articles would be free to access, but journalists need to feed their family too. There's not much of an alternative to using them as sources if they're the only ones going. Compare academic literature: most scientific papers cost €25/$30 to access. If we were to avoid the use of these, a huge proportion of our science articles would have no reliable sources whatsoever. It's a real pain, but there's nothing that we can do about it. Brammers (talk/c) 12:14, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination
I am trying to submit a new DYK nomination of Mutiny at Sucro for September 4 and not sure if I have done it right for the new procedure. Can you look at September 4 and see if I have done it right or if I need to correct something? thanks.--Doug Coldwell talk 14:27, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You must put it on T:TDYK. Did you know this guide? It's very simple.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ Hey it's me I am dynamite 14:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm trying, but apparently I am getting nowhere. Here is what I am trying to enter:

{{DYKsubpage
 * monthyear=September 2011
 * passed=
 * 2=

Mutiny at Sucro

 * ancient scholars consider the Mutiny of Sucro as the most important event of Scipio Africanus' early military career?


 * Reviewed: diff

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 15:00, 4 September 2011 (UTC)



}} Can you help me...--Doug Coldwell talk 15:00, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Your hook is totally incorrect... the best thing is to try it again. Use the guide above.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ Hey it's me I am dynamite 15:12, 4 September 2011 (UTC)-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ Hey it's me I am dynamite  15:12, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed by . -- John of Reading (talk) 15:21, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

How do I find all the Wikipedia pages that are linked to a Wikipedia page?
User found it on their own, GB fan please review my editing 14:36, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I would like a list of all Wikipedia pages linked to a specific Wikipedia page.

How or where can I find this?

For example a page about trees will probably be linked to by pages about leaves and branches, to name two pages. I would like to be able to quickly find ALL the pages that are linked to any Wikipedia page.

The tree page is not really my interest, it is merely a random example.

86.184.247.100 (talk) 14:30, 4 September 2011 (UTC)Internet Surfer.

It's OK, I've found it now in the toolbox dropdown. Left sidebar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.184.247.100 (talk) 14:33, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Editing help?
I'm trying to make a modest change to Sue Bird. However, each time, it has royally messed up the article, affecting sections I don't think I'm touching. I've tried twice. When I open the page for editing, the material in the edit window, before making any changes, looks askew. I think it has something to do with the tables. I originally crated the first table, although someone else edited it subsequently. Any thoughts on what I'm doing wrong?-- SPhilbrick  T  15:00, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * In you deleted a lot of newlines in a table. This broke the table formatting. Maybe there is something incompatible in your browser or account which can cause newlines to disappear on save. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:26, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Very weird. I didn't touch those lines. If I edit just the section, it looks OK, but if I try to edit the whole article, something strange happens with the table, even before I touch it. I usually edit the whole article, so I can add references in LDR fashion; I guess I'll have to do it differently, but I don't get what is happening.-- SPhilbrick  T  15:36, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Editing by section didn't help. However, I just tried in IE and it worked, the problem may be Firefox related.-- SPhilbrick  T  16:05, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Something may have changed at this end - here is someone else with the same problem. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:05, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Found it - there was a bug in wikiEd, which has now been fixed. Editors should bypass their browser cache to get up to date. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:41, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

fake name in headline/duplicate pages
Hello, my name is Elena Satine, i am an actress. I was born Elena Satine but for some reason some silly person keeps changing the name of my page to elena satine-skhirtladze ...i don't know where this ridiculous name is coming from, but i would like it removed from my page, also this has happen several times, please do something to make it stop. this person is also attempting to create a duplicate pages. see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Satine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Satine%28Skhirtladze http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Satine-Skhirtladze

I'd greatly appreciate it if you could clean up this mess, and revert the page to it's original form: Elena_Satine.

thank you. Elena Satine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elenasatine (talk • contribs) 15:34, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I have fixed the main article's content and some of the redirects. There does not appear to be any explanation by the new editor for the name change or the moves.  However, the Elena Satine article needs to be deleted by an admin so that Elena Satine-Skhirtladze can be moved back to that name. I have also cautioned User: Dato - 100. Singularity42 (talk) 15:52, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, page moves are not so easily reverted unless you are an admin. I have requested that the redirect at Elena Satine be speedily deleted so that Elena Satine-Skhirtladze can be moved to the correct name. Please wait until the speedy deletion has been carried out before trying to move the page to its correct name. Speedy delete also requested for Elena Satine(Skhirtladze.  Astronaut (talk) 16:00, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Elena, I'm sorry this has happened, and thank you for your calm response. The move was made by, which appears to be a vandalism-only account, not yet blocked; all other edits by this user have been reverted.  I'm sure the first admin who sees this will move-protect and probably semi-protect the article, which will greatly reduce the likelihood of further vandalism.  Also, I'm curious: may I ask how you found the vandalism so quickly?  Did you fortuitously view your article roughly an hour after it was vandalised, or is there some kind of program I don't know about that can inform you when an article you're interested in is altered?  Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 16:04, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

thank you all for your help. much appreciated. Adrian, I get google alerts when something regarding my name crops up. it's helpful in situations like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elenasatine (talk • contribs) 16:14, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see, thanks. I've notified admins on IRC, so hopefully this will be resolved quickly. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 16:22, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I CANT EDIT AN ARTICLE ABOUT ME!!
i am lady luck and i want to update my info on wikipedia the automated system wont allow it. please help me. it wont even let me update pictures

Iamshanelljones (talk) 15:41, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Lady Luck (rapper), right? Please specify what kind of error messages you are getting "[it] won't allow it" isn't very helpful.  Powers T 15:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The content you added was biased and promotional and has no place here. You shouldn't be editing about yourself anyway as you have a clear conflict of interest, instead you should follow the instructions at Autobiography-- Jac 16888 Talk 15:48, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * It was also copyvio from, but I agree it was inappropriate. Dougweller (talk) 15:51, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Revision number
As far as I know, the only way to see the revision number of an edit is in the URL of that version, where it says "oldid=". Sometimes, you see a restore of a previous version that goes very far back in the edit history. The edit summary shows the version number that was restored. Is there a way to easily find that version? Otherwise, I find myself doing a large number of compares. In one instance, I gave up. Frankly, I don't know why the revision number can't display in the edit history itself.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I often look for a revision with the same size in bytes to find out where a revert went back to. Ctrl+F can search for this in many browsers. And many browsers will display the url including the revision number when you hover over a link. Revision numbers are in increasing order. I don't know whether there are any user scripts to help find reverts. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:08, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I use Firefox. I'm not sure where you want me to hover. The Ctrl-F does work.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:15, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The hover and Ctrl+F are unrelated. If you hover your mouse over the time of a revision in the page history then your browser may display the url near the bottom of the window without having to click the link. The url ends with oldid. It may still require some experimentation to find the right oldid this way. Maybe you already did this or something similar. Your post wasn't specific about the type of compares you did. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:29, 5 September 2011 (UTC)


 * If you have the oldid, you can just manually enter it as part of the URL when viewing any revision of the page and jump to that one. At the beginning of the page display will be an attribution entry for it. For example, this reversion of mine says "Reverted to revision 448148354", so I just go to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sanford_H._Calhoun_High_School&oldid=448148354 and there it is, with a pink box at the top crediting this revision as "edited by Turgan (talk | contribs | block) at 02:41, 3 September 2011". DMacks (talk) 21:59, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That sounds good to me. Hopefully, I'll remember when I need to do it.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:15, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Simplify the process of uploading a copyrighted picture
I have the permission of the copyright owner, but the problem is that Wikipedia doesn't accept statements as viable permission. So then I searched a little and found Declaration of consent for all enquiries. Should he fill that out, send it to me, so I can put it in the Permission section of the upload box? Please help me! Uploading pictures is the only thing subject to frustration here. AnonymousAnimus (talk) 18:48, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The copyright owner should send the email to a Wikimedia/Wikipedia email address, as described in the "Email address" section of the Declaration of consent for all enquiries page. The volunteers who process those emails will then log the permission and update the file page. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:15, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

lookking for info on Band
I am trying to find more info on a band in the netherlands that has 5 men in it and i think one of the name is Geer Coparetti that lives in oldenzaal,nl  They have performed at the Toomler Theater in Amsterdam. They have been to Las Vegas in the USA for a concert before. Can some one please tell me where to go to find out more about them...I think they are called Beethoven but not sure. need info as soon as possible. I live in the USA. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.129.144.118 (talk) 18:54, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've tried a few Google searches without success. I suggest you ask again at the Entertainment reference desk, and the volunteers there may do better. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:22, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Deletion log and Google search
Hello, I would really appreciate your help. I moved an article (a biography of a living person) from a page where only the first name was capitalized (family name was not capitalized). The new article exists, but there is a deletion log in a place of the old one (with the typo). Unfortunately, the link to the old one (not capitalized) appears in a Google search in the first place. The link leads to the deletion log (not to the new article). So there are now two links in the Google search to the articles about the same person - one to the existing article, second to the deletion log. How to deal with this problem and remove the deletion log (and subsequently link in the Google search)? Is there any way to remove this deletion log or redirect it? For example if someone adds professional title to the title of Wikipedia article the entry is redirected to the new address and the old entry (or deletion log to it) does not exist anymore (nor any trace of it in Google). Maybe there is a way to the same thing here? Please help, I would like to clean this mess and not offend anyone by not capitalizing their name. I am not sure how to proceed. Thank you so much for your help! MajaEdits (talk) 16:54, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I've placed a redirect at Dilip jeste. Though I'm not sure that was necessary.  And Google will sort itself out.  We have no control over Google but it will soon re-index the page.  Dismas |(talk) 19:15, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your help! MajaEdits (talk) 19:34, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

reservation residents and addresses
I was wondering if there is a system or a way to find a listing of the residents that live on the flathead reservation and their addresses and phone numbers.

Thank you, Kevin Dupus
 * It would best to ask questions on specific subjects at the Reference desk. The Help desk is reserved for Wikipedia-related help questions. --   Luke      (Talk)   21:34, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Translation of Suite Tetelecentro
Hi all, Can somebody translate the Portugese stub page to English ? This is it http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitetelecentro Shirishag75 (talk) 22:23, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Try WP:TRANSLATION-- Jac 16888 Talk 22:27, 4 September 2011 (UTC)