Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 April 12

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= April 12 =

Is there any way to add a mobile phone verification to my account ?
so that if I lost access to my email and password I'd be able to verify using a phone number.Grmike (talk) 02:00, 12 April 2012 (UTC)grmike
 * No. Ruslik_ Zero 06:53, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * See User committed identity for an alternative which requires you to reproduce a secret string. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:43, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, that won't help. The developers can't reset the password to an account and send you a new password. The committed ID is only useful if there is a suggestion that your account may have been hacked. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:31, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * meta:Privacy policy says: "Users whose accounts do not have a valid email address will not be able to reset their password if it is lost. In such a situation, however, users may be able to contact one of the Wikimedia server administrators to enter a new e-mail address." However, I don't know under which circumstances this will be done. I once asked at Help desk/Archives/2009 August 4. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I meant to link Village pump (technical)/Archive 82. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:32, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Annoying 'Improve this article' blue box
How can I get rid of the blue box at the bottom right-hand corner of my screen on (at least) the article The Washington Post? It doesn't do anything except block the text in that corner. The "X" doesn't work. Bielle (talk) 02:03, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] The Article Feedback Tool encourages readers to assess article quality. See the tool page for more information and an FAQ that includes how to comment on the tool and how to disable it. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 02:06, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I have made the alteration. It was most annoying. Bielle (talk) 05:30, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

List of banned sources
There was a list of banned sources somewhere. Can someone lead me to it? Aditya (talk • contribs) 05:16, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You mean MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist? Ruslik_ Zero 06:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

My account is gone
I am BadDoggie. I have been "BadDoggie" for always here. This one: .

I am trying to add information (specifically the de.wikipedia Oktoberfest page). I cannot log in. When I try to do so I receive a "no such user" message. When I try to send a reconfirm mail to my @gmail address, I get the same "no such user" message. If I then try to re-create the user I'm presented with a screen telling me this user already exists.

W. T. F. ?. !. ?. !.

-bd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.174.114.184 (talk) 08:16, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The German Wikipedia (de.wikipedia.org) is not the same as the English one. Unless you have chosen unified login in your user options you would need to create a new user account on the German WP. Roger (talk) 09:16, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Click this link to create a global login.-- Gilderien Talk|Contribs 09:44, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Please can I have some feedback on my new article please?
I would really appreciate any input. MissLadyLawless (talk) 10:06, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be harsh, but there is a great deal of work that still needs to be done on your page. You need to read WP:CITE to learn how to cite references correctly. You should also read WP:RS to understand what is and is not considered a reliable source, and WP:GNG to get an idea of the minimum requirements for inclusion - which at present, your sandbox article does not meet. The band may potentially be notable, but as it stands, this article would be deleted within minutes of being moved to mainspace (under WP:A7, most likely). If you need more specific help, feel free to ask me at User talk:Yunshui. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 10:12, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * What article? Roger (talk) 12:06, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Special:Contributions/MissLadyLawless shows it is User:MissLadyLawless/Caroline Blue band. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:18, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

References for new page?
Hi there, I would love some advice. I am currently creating a new page for a band. I have managed to find a huge list of notable references, magazines etc, where they have been mentioned, all over the world. I placed this information underneath the references (its the huge obvious section) I really do not want the page to be deleted, but have no idea how to include all those references, is that possible? are there any I should use over others? Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MissLadyLawless (talk • contribs) 13:34, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Strictly speaking, you don't have to "use" all of the references to establish notability standards. The mere existance of the source material is all that is needed, and including a giant list of uncited sources at the end of an article can be unweildy.  Generally, you only include sources which directly support information in the article itself, usually by the use of "inline citations" (see WP:INLINE.  A good idea would be to move the giant list of sources to the article talk page, where people can use the sources for more information or to improve the article, or to establish notability, but then the giant list won't mess up the appearence of the article.  -- Jayron  32  13:59, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

New page (I hope) establishing notability
Hi all,

I am very new to this so apologies if my page thus far looks rubbish. I have a large section of references which I need to pick a few from as i cannot include them all. Does anyone know which references may be best for me to use? I would be gutted if the page got binned. I have highlighted the sources in bold so no real reading is required I know its too long! also, any opinions on how good/poor my page seems to look?thank you x — Preceding unsigned comment added by MissLadyLawless (talk • contribs) 14:08, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * See above.--ukexpat (talk) 14:22, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Use the sources that directly support the statements and claims you have written in the article. I see the references you have inserted so far seem to be from websites but your cites don't actually include a link to the web pages or the article/page titles. You might find using a cite template easier - it is basically a "form" that you paste into the article and then you insert the details such as author, title, url, etc. There are a variety of templates for citing websites, books, newspapers, magazines, etc. listed here - but first read WP:Referencing for beginners. Roger (talk) 14:23, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

help with new page
Is there anyone who can help me link up my page with references? or is that a silly ask. I have been reading the instructions and cannot Get my head around them. Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by MissLadyLawless (talk • contribs) 14:49, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Again, see above and please stop creating new sections relating to the same question. I have moved this one to keep the thread together.--ukexpat (talk) 15:12, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, I have done a little work on your draft, to show you the kind of thing that could be done. I did a little cleanup: removing the excessive use of bold and uppercase letters.  I converted a couple of the references to use a  citation template and use links that people can actually click on.  I removed the list of quotes that seemed to be cut and pasted from another website (a likely copyright violation).  I added wikilinks to a few other encyclopedia articles - more can be added, particularly band names and people.
 * That said, there is nothing in the article which states how the band meets Wikipedia's policy on the notability of bands. Notability is not inherited, so just because they sound like a some other notable bands, doesn't mean they are notable themselves.  If it was moved to the article space now, it would probably be put up for speedy deletion in a very short time (I would be surprised if it survived longer than a few hours).  Take a look at other band articles, to see the kind of things necessary to make it as an encyclopedia article.  Astronaut (talk) 16:36, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

How can i add another language?
How can i add another language on Wikipedia page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.160.211.142 (talk) 11:12, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * If you mean a link to a Wikipedia article in another language then see Help:Interlanguage links. If you mean something else then please clarify. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:29, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Page revision links
I dimly remember a technique to make a link to an old revision of an article appear as if it were a direct wikilink; e.g. this link can be formatted so that it looks just like this link. Two questions: (1) How do I do that again? (2) Is it possible to use this technique with old file revisions? I'd like to make this revision appear just like a link to the current version. Nyttend (talk) 11:53, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Try  name    .--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:15, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * That's the general method at Help:Link. Oldid is a better way to do it for old page revisions. I don't know a similar way for old file revisions. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:28, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Add a celebrity to the site
I would liek to add a page about Jeannie D to Wikipedia, but i am not sure about the ifringments. She is already mentioned on the Top Billing (TV) page, but it is not in blue so there is oviously no link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JeannieDeGouveia (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Your first article should help you. Ask if you have more questions. --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:11, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Suggest you use the WP:Article wizard.--ukexpat (talk) 15:17, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * However, if this is to create an autobiography, it might be best left to someone without such an obvious conflict of interest - see WP:YOURSELF for some more information. Astronaut (talk) 15:35, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * If you are not really Jeannie de Gouveia your username is in violation of the rules as it is an apperent impersonation. Roger (talk) 16:54, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Heroes Welcome UK
Hi I have been trying to up load an image of the Heroes Welcome corporate logo in order to improve the Article, when filling in the upload information to cover copyrights etc this is the message i got :

This is a disambiguation page! The page Heroes Welcome UK is not a real article, but a disambiguation page pointing to a number of other pages. Please check and enter the exact title of the actual target article you meant.

Help Many thanks Fwe506 (talk) 12:47, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Please use another article name during the upload, for example British Armed Forces. Right after the upload, edit the image page and correct the article name. Technical explanation of the error: Fair use images like logos are not allowed on disambiguation pages. During the upload, MediaWiki:FileUploadWizard.js looks for categories with "disambiguation" in the name. Heroes Welcome UK belongs to the hidden category Category:Articles with links needing disambiguation from January 2012. This does not imply it is a disambiguation page but it fools the script. I will report the problem. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:51, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thanks for reporting that, and sorry for the bug. I've changed the script now. To Fwe506: If you want to try again, it ought to be working now, but probably only if you bypass your browser cache at least once after you re-start the upload wizard, to make sure you have the modified version of the script loaded. Or just use the workaround PrimeHunter mentioned. Sorry for the trouble. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I see you uploaded File:Heroes Welcome UK logo.jpg. I have uploaded File:Heroes Welcome UK logo.png as a replacement and nominated the original for deletion as unused. The replacement only shows the logo and uses a format better suited for a drawing. jpg is designed for photos. The new version is also the one currently shown on the website with a ship and plane instead of a second soldier, presumably to symbolize the other branches of the British Armed Forces. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:06, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Request for loss of adminship
Where on Wikipedia can I propose that a user has his administrative privileges stricken? &mdash;Bzweebl&mdash; talk 14:50, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 'Crat noticeboard normally. I noticed you're a new editor, why would would want an admins rights sticken? Mr  little  irish  15:00, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * See Administrators --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:13, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Is this article OK to publish
I've created this article. Is it ok to publish or need something to add (not native english user: Sorry) ළහිරු හිමේෂ් මදුෂංඛ (talk) 15:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Saleem


 * It's not clear from the draft that the subject meets the guidelines at WP:MUSICBIO.--ukexpat (talk) 16:19, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * (slight swerve) Any idea what I need to install on my browser/machine (Google Chrome/Windows XP SP3) to see the actual username? All I'm getting is square boxes.Naraht (talk) 16:34, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It's Sinhalese, the si:wikipedia has a handy font guide with several links, -- Jac 16888 Talk 17:34, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Veteran Editors
Is it possible to request veterans editors to review an article that has been tagged for cleanup and inline citations and to provide that help? How can one be contacted? George Cabe (talk) 17:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia:Requests for feedback redirect here. This board is highly visible and checked by many veteran editors. If you link it here, it will likely be looked at by several. Dru of Id (talk) 17:31, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You could ask at Wikipedia talk:Cleanup, which is the talkpage of the Cleanup WikiProject. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 17:36, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

James Burke, James Burk
There is a blank page for James Burk which is nothing more than a redirect to James "Burke." I am making a page for someone actually names James Burk not Burke. What do I do?T.Whetsell (talk) 17:45, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Just edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Burk&redirect=no to remove the redirect code and add your text.--ukexpat (talk) 17:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Burk&redirect=no - Purplewowies (talk) 17:56, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * But when you are done, you should probably put a hatnote at the top of each of the articles pointing to the other. --ColinFine (talk) 22:31, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

username changing
As I change my user name on overs wikipedia, I needs to change it on english version. How can I do this ? Véronique Pagnier (talk) 18:50, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know what you mean by "overs wikipedia" but see Changing username. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:17, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Could you give us more information? MarkusSc (talk) 00:44, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

PETER LOCKE, (Producer)
Hello, I am Peter Locke. It states on Wikipedia that I am co-owner of Castel Films in Bucharest, Romania - this is incorrect. My affiliation with Castel Films is "agent", not owner. I have brought many films to Castel. Please correct this.

I will attempt to make this correction myself with your edit feature as well. thank you. Peter Locke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.154.105 (talk) 19:02, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The article Castel Film Romania does not mention your name at all. Is that the article you mean? Maproom (talk) 20:56, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I see you meant the article Peter Locke (producer). Someone has now corrected it. Maproom (talk) 20:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

"ISBN Number page"
Hi I don't know how else to submit this error. It's minor...but it's an error, and it takes place on one of the pages that is the sole dominion of the Wikipedia staff - the "ISBN Number" page.

The "N" in "ISBN" stands for 'number'. A bit redundant, don't you think?

207.161.235.82 (talk)Eric —Preceding undated comment added 19:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC).


 * I guess you refer to Book sources. You can make a suggestion at Wikipedia talk:Book sources but I get two million Google hits on "ISBN number". When you are not merely listing the number but speaking about the numbers in general, I think "ISBN number" is sensible considering many readers probably don't know 'N' is for number. See also RAS syndrome. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:21, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * By the way, Wikipedia doesn't have "staff". Everyone here is a volunteer just like you. Roger (talk) 07:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

As a professional in the book business (librarian) I'll mention here that the phrase "ISBN number" is used all the time in the industry. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 23:14, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Getting This Article Posted
Hello,

I have been attempting to post a new article on a man named Anthony Morrocco who worked as a famous hair dresser as well as became the creator for a vegan, all-natural beauty care system. I have submitted the article and I keep getting a response that it will not be posted. I have included the information below and would appreciate it if you could read it and let me know what I am doing wrong. I believe he is notable in that he has worked with MANY famous people as well as the fact he created an entirely new way of looking at hair care. I am merely curious as to why I can’t seem to get this posted and what I can do to assure that it will be posted. I even have outside sources from People magazine, CBS, and other nationally known publications. PLEASE read and let me know what I am missing or why I am not being allowed to post—I am more than willing to make whatever changes necessary. I have also formatted it in several different ways but this one seems to make the most sense. However, could the formatting be the issue? I know I have to go back through the content and tag references with hyperlinks, but I simply wanted to give you the information so you could guide me in the appropriate direction.

Thank you, Ellen Jones

Anthony Morrocco Born: Anthony Morrocco May 4, 1943 Connecticut, U.S. Los Osos, California. U.S. Occupation: Hairstylist & Businessman Websites: https://morroccomethod.com www.thehairshaman.com Anthony Morrocco (born May 4, 1943) is the founder and current President and CEO of Morrocco Method International, a hair care company specializing in all natural products. Morrocco Method is noted for having reached “Champion Status” on the Environmental Working Group’s Skin Deep Cosmetic Data Base, for offering safe hair care products. Contents 1 Early Career 2 Morrocco Method International 3 Products & Philosophy 4 References 5 External links 1 Early Career In the 1960’s while working at Kenneth’s in New York City, Morrocco became the stylist for numerous celebrities including: Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, Brooke Astor, Mia Farrow, Lauren Bacall, Liza Minelli, Faye Dunaway and Joan Rivers among many others. Morrocco discovered enormous amounts of hair and scalp damage from chemically-based salon treatments. After four years of full time apprenticeship, Morrocco moved to Laguna Beach, California to open his own studio. There, he opened a studio based on an all natural system of hair care and styling, which provided chemical-free alternatives. As word spread, the salon rapidly became a haven for clients coping with inherent chemical sensitivity, also those whose hair/ scalp had been destructively ‘thrashed’ in the course of conventional hair care. In 1968 he founded Morrocco Method International, a line of holistic hair and skin products incorporating ingredients that are raw, vegan, and eco-friendly. 2 Morrocco Method International In 1968, Anthony founded Morrocco Method International after over 40 years of world travel, study and experimentation aimed at creating the best possible holistic approach to hair care. In 1979 Morrocco Method Products were being sold commercially and Globally. MMI (Morrocco Method International) reflects Anthony’s personal vision and commitment to the satisfaction, health and safety of all using his products, which are raw, vegan, and eco-friendly. Incorporating Chinese herbalism and the healing art of Ayurvedic (originating in India) in the development of his products, Anthony also pursued the knowledge of Acupressure under the tutelage of Master Fung Yi of Peking (who has been Bruce Lee’s mentor) and consulted Dr. Cecilia Lu of Shanghai for extensive input on developing his holistic approach. Most recently, Anthony’s non-stop dedication won MMI a distinguished, “Champion,” status with the Compact for Safe Cosmetics. This highest classification, conferred by the Environmental Working Group is awarded only to the most outstandingly safe and effective products worldwide. 3 Products & Philosophy Morrocco Method International includes several lines of hair care products including shampoos, conditioners, natural henna hair dyes, styling gels, pomades and non-lacquer holding mists. In addition, MMI sells bath soaps, facial exfoliate scrubs, and a collection of hair brushes. Every one of the MMI products contains each of the 92 trace minerals and is all natural, safe, and vegan friendly. The Morrocco Method of hair, face and body care is unique as well as comprehensive. It represents over forty years of research and experimentation, integrating modern scientific knowledge with the ancient healing arts of Ayurvedic and Chinese herbalism. In formulating his products, Anthony Morrocco followed the principles of Old World farmers, who understood that planting, harvesting, and storing foods according to the lunar cycle maximizes the energetic potency of the plants. 4 References THESE WILL BE WIKIPEDIA REFERENCES ONLY (THINGS LIKE NAMES, IDEAS, PLACES CAN BE TAGGED AND END UP HERE) 5 External links •	MMI’s “Champion Status” on EWG http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/brand/Morrocco_Method%2C_Int%27l/ •	People Magazine on Anthony Morrocco http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20096728,00.html •	Kristen’s Raw Review of MMI products http://kristensraw.com/blog/2009/04/15/great-natural-raw-vegan-hair-products-morrocco-method/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.94.52.122 (talk) 21:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * That is a huge unreadable slab of text. Also, the parts of it that I have managed to read look like an advertisement, not an encyclopedia article. Both problems might be overcome with some work.


 * A more serious problem is that the man is not notable. The links you have provided are two advertisements for hair-care products, and a 404. You have offered no evidence that he is notable. This is not your fault, there is nothing you can do about it, a Google search shows that he really isn't notable. An article about him is not warranted.. Maproom (talk) 22:17, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It is a huge unreadable slab of text because you have not used Wikicode to format it: most formatting in the original is lost. The requirements for notability are that other people have written substantially about the subject in independent reliable places. --ColinFine (talk) 22:40, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * One of the links was formatted incorrectly. It might work now.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:29, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, it was three. But I realize now the others who posted here saw what I saw.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Uploading Images
Hi There,

I've created a page and am trying to add images. I've read all of the information on wikipedia, but my problem is the Special:Upload function that I'm told to use doesn't seem to exist on my editing page. Can you please help me to upload pictures?

Thank you!

Candice — Preceding unsigned comment added by CandyM (talk • contribs) 22:42, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Try Special:Upload.--ukexpat (talk) 00:18, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Editing references
Good evening all.

I am currenly trying to change reference number 3. on my new page, but when I click 'edit' Nothing comes up under references? I was wondering what I am missing. Thank you all, and thanks for the previous help, much appreciated. :)MissLadyLawless (talk) 23:32, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Click the "Edit" tab and edit the reference where it's used and not where it's displayed. See more at Referencing for beginners. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:21, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * If you had actually acted on the advice you were given multiple times yesterday you would not be asking this question. Which part of "please read WP:Referencing for beginners" do you not understand? Roger (talk) 08:05, 13 April 2012 (UTC)