Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 April 13

= April 13 =

Band notability
Good eveing,

I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on what could be done to imporve my page as it stands. It is my first article and I am not sure it is of a decent quality yet? I have been working really hard on my references, and have read what would qualify for a band, am I right in thinking my references stand a chance? Also could anyone advise how to respond to replies? I havent been able to message back/ thank any responders! thank you. :) MissLadyLawless (talk) 01:02, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You already asked for feedback a short while ago. You don't need to ask again so soon. RudolfRed (talk) 01:28, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I am still not convinced that the band meets the guidelines at WP:BAND.--ukexpat (talk) 01:57, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Here is a link for those who don't feel like investigating what article the OP is referring to. Dismas |(talk) 02:21, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Suspicious User Page
Hey, it recently came to my notice that this user page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blindoanglianpublicschool resembles an wikipedia article on DPS Patna. Actually it seems that the above user has just copied all the code of DPS Patna and put it on his/her User page. Is this right? Doesn't this count as misleading? Aditya San. (talk) 04:32, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It is a violation of WP:UPNOT, as well as WP:Username policy as a promotional username and I have blanked the userpage and softblocked the account. The user will have to create a new account with a name that represents only themself. -- &oelig; &trade; 08:04, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

RS or not?
http://www.youtube.com/user/HistoryFeed Is this a reliable YouTube account? --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 05:49, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Judging by the introduction to the clips about WW1 aviation, no.TheLongTone (talk) 11:34, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:RSN is generally the proper avenue for questions like this. The documentaries seem to be copyright violations, meaning they cannot be linked to ("Unsolved History- Killing Hitler", for example, was produced by the Discovery Channel, I highly doubt the YouTube uploader is the copyright holder), per WP:LINKVIO. The documentaries themselves may be reliable sources, but these videos cannot be linked at all.  Я ehevkor ✉  11:49, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ^ this. RSN ftw. XtR1 (talk) 19:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Timescale for new page upload
Hi,

I intend to upload a page from my Sandbox to a live page shortly.

Can you please confirm for me the average timescale for a page to become live having been submitted. I'm assuming (hoping) they'll be no errors with my page content.

Thanks,

Englishmaninmelbourne (talk) 06:02, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Seeing that you are autoconfirmed, you can move the page by clicking on "move" on a tab at the top left corner (next to the View history tab). The page will be immediately made live once you have moved the page. I hope this helps, Hallows Aktiengesellschaft  ( talk ) 07:55, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * About 2 seconds. ;) Once you move a page into mainspace it's instantly "live". It's already visible to everyone when in your sandbox as well.
 * If you are using the WP:AfC submission process however then it may take anywhere from several hours to several days depending on how many volunteers are reviewing the submissions. -- &oelig; &trade; 07:57, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

URGENT : Error link on the Nelly Furtado
URGENT : Error link on the Nelly Furtado

Hello,

I just detect an error on the page of Nelly Furtado, it is located downstairs in the filmography table. You provided a link to the official website of the film, however this site is closed, and it is a spammer who bought the domain name.

Here's the relevant line:

2010 Score: A Hockey Musical An Ardent Canadian Hockey Fan Film www.scoreahockeymusical.com

Thank you to immediately remove the link, you only empower the spammer!

cordially — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackman112 (talk • contribs) 10:51, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You are able to remove the link by editing the page. Mr  little  irish  11:04, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Er, no. The article is semi-protected, and the OP isn't autoconfirmed. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:08, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Done, but I don't know why you regarded it as so urgent. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:08, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

we want to know from which place, ip address this page is being modified and the users name, details
we want to know from which place, ip address this page is being modified and the users name, details

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.64.127.66 (talk) 14:52, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi. If you go here: you can see a list of the IP address or username of everyone who has edited the page. That's the most information you will get though, because Wikipedia doesn't keep lists of the personal details of people who edit it. You can contact individual users if you are concerned about their edits by clicking "talk" next to their IP address or name in the list. Formerip (talk) 14:56, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

how long before uploaded image file becomes visible publicly?
As of this morning (10:15am ET, Apr. 13, 2012) I have apparently successfully uploaded an image through the Commons site to the "Subra Suresh" Wiki entry (bio of a living person), but the image is not visible in the public Wikipedia. Should it be instantaneously visible or is there an editing or other process that delays its appearance? --LeeHerring (talk) 15:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It is usually immediate.-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  15:42, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I tried fixing it, do I have the right image?-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  15:45, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It is immediately visible at File:Subra Suresh portrait - National Science Foundation.jpg but Help:File page and Picture tutorial explain the editorial process you must do to make it appear in an article. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:46, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to you both. Actually, it is not the right image that is in the article now, and now I don't see a way in the editing mode to replace the image. I had uploaded a 66KB file titled "Subra-Suresh-portrait.jpg" to the Commons (I think). It is a portrait with the American flag to the left side of the image. I would really like to get this image into the article in place of the current photo. --LeeHerring (talk) 16:12, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I replaced the image in this edit.--ukexpat (talk) 16:20, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

wehatesit.com and blackmatters101
Dear Wikipedia:

Wehatesit.com has posted crude and defamatory information about me and the author attempts to dissociate himself as a direct representation of my deceased father but then proceeds with his posts in the First Person. The posts are beyond disturbing, show delusions of grandeur, are aggressive and intimidating, and interspersed with foul language.

A new post appeared recently by an unknown, as blackmatters101 and also speaks in the First Person of my father, Fritz Zwicky. The post is a false and unauthorized impersonation of my father.

I would appreciate your consideration of these sites.

Kind regards,

Barbarina Zwicky. Barbarina 15:40, 13 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbarina (talk • contribs)
 * This is Wikipedia. We have nothing to do with Wehatesit.com.-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  15:50, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Persistent vandalism of Stanley Booth-Clibborn page
A user with the IP address 92.40.30.155 is persistently repeating the same action of vandalism at the Stanley Booth-Clibborn page. I see they are doing the same at John Methuen. Is there an accepted correct Wikipedia way of warning this user in order to prevent this happening again? Thanks, Peteinterpol (talk) 16:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Warnings have been posted on their talk page. If they persist, please report to WP:AIV.--ukexpat (talk) 16:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Why do I keep being logged off WP today?
Today, I continue getting logged off about every 5-10 minutes, losing session data in the process. Sometimes I've had to log back on two or three times before WP says I am back in the system. I am a regular contributor and have not have this happen before--and it has been going on for at least the last couple of hours regularly. What is going on? Jonyungk (talk) 16:32, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Association for Rare Earth
Hi there! I work at Rare, the Association for Rare Earth. When I checked the wikipedia page, someone had edited the title and removed the word "Rare." There is an undo function but it hasn't worked. I can't figure out how to edit the title. The title needs to reflect the true name of our organization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.184.87 (talk) 17:18, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The page was moved. If RARE is an acronym, it's unclear and unexplained. Dru of Id (talk) 17:25, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Is the official name the word "rare" written with all capitals "RARE", and "The Association for Rare Earth" is not part of the name? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:32, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * According to their website, the actual name is the Association for Rare Earth. Their "brand" (so to speak) is RARE, even though that's not actually an acronym for anything. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:47, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the idea is that "RARE" is a forced acronym for "RARE, the Association for Rare Earth", where the first R stands recursively for the acronym itself. —teb728 t c 10:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * There isn't much WP:RS material on the topic, but the topic name appears as The Association for Rare Earth (RARE) and RARE, The Association for Rare Earth in some articles. Somewhat similar organizations include China Association of Rare Earth Industry, China National Association for Rare Earth Trades, and The Japan Society of Newer Metals, an association of rare earth processing companies. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 10:33, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I made that move in last November and the reason for this was to use the common name. I am still think that this is a proper name as the common name does not necessarily be the branding name or official name. Uzma Gamal mentioned above that The Association for Rare Earth (RARE) is a name what is used. By my understanding we don't add the acronym to the long name in the title and we usually don't add the article "the". Taking this into account, the current name reflects exactly what is used. Beagel (talk) 13:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

For potentially controversial moves you could find more information at Requested moves. In general, you create a new discussion section at the article talk page named Requested move, add NewName where Instead of NewName you should put the name where you would like to move the article, and then add short explanation why you think the page should be moved or not. If the page will be moved or not depends the results of discussion. If you are going to make this page move request, I also recommend to copy this discussion from here to the Requested move discussion at the article's talk page. Beagel (talk) 09:21, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Saving changes I make in my sandbox version of an article I am writing
I made some changes in the article I am writing in my sandbox. I logged out and when I came back the changes had not been saved.

How do I save the changes without my page going live?

When I am ready for my article to go live, how do I make that happen? DanDaniels (talk) 19:53, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I see you have saved material to your sandbox before. Just continue editing and save your edits to the sandbox by clicking the Save Page button as before. Your new edits will not appear in the encyclopaedia while editing in the sandbox. For that to happen, you would have to either, 1. Move your article from the sandbox to Wikipedia or, 2. Copy your text from the sandbox and paste it into a new article space. But while working in the sandbox, your work will not appear in the encyclopaedia, only in your sandbox. This help page explains how to create articles, and how to move pages. Also, I have removed the template from your sandbox because it is unnecessary to protect your article-in-developent while it is your sandbox, and because the template itself states specifically "NOTE: This template is not for User namespace articles". Your sandbox is in your user namespace (i.e.  inside the directory User:DanDaniels).  — O'Dea  20:03, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Text alignment control in a navbox with collapsible groups
The following collapsed "Navbox with collapsible groups" contains four groups of sample data, which are all centre aligned by the navbox coding. How can I change my template coding to align the text to the left instead of the centre? Thank you. — O'Dea 19:54, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

You must modify the group style parameter by typing |groupstyle = text-align:left; You can see it on the 3rd line of the template I called below. If you want the lists within the groups to be left aligned you use |liststyle = text-align: left; I included an example on the 4th line of the 2nd template I called. Ryan Vesey Review me!  20:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. It is hard to find such detail in template help. Now that I see how it works, I wonder if I can take it one step further so that the first two groups contain centred data as before while the latter two groups are left aligned? The liststyle = text-align:left; statement controls the entire navbox and won't allow different alignments by group — as far as I can see, anyway. I experimented with statements like | liststyle1 = text-align:center; and | liststyle3 = text-align:left; within the groups without success. Thanks for your help. — O'Dea  (talk) 21:31, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You were almost correct. I took a shot in the dark and found out you type something like |list1style = text-align:left; or |group3style = text-align:right;  You can put it in the beginning parameters of the template.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  02:26, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

 * Very good! I fiddled a little with your last piece of code, above, to adjust it, to produce this, below, which demonstrates exactly the level of control I was aiming for.


 * I used four different statements clustered together at the top of the template, one for each group, specifying alignment individually, as follows:
 * | list 1 style = text-align: center ;
 * | list 2 style = text-align: center ;
 * | list 3 style = text-align: left ;
 * | list 4 style = text-align: left ;
 * Thank you very much. — O'Dea  (talk) 03:12, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, I appreciate a chance to do some creative thinking to solve some template problems. It's been a while.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  04:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Feedback about editing
Hello, how to hide the button at the top of the screen: Feedback about editing. I can not find this option in the preferences. Mały koleżka (talk) 20:28, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * like RudolfRed (talk) 20:40, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

New pages for Pending Changes Testing
Hello, i would like to create 4 more testing pages for Pending changes/Testing. I don't think there will be any problem for that, just need some more pages for testing purposes. I will create the pages, so after creating them i just need to get pending changes protection installed on them, which administrator can do that for me ? TheGeneralUser (talk) 21:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see why you would “need more pages for testing purposes” and why you would need “pending changes protection”, if that even is an existing feature on Wikipedia. 71.146.17.18 (talk) 18:57, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Some input on redlink overkill
List of In Our Time programmes

Hi, not really sure if this is a BLP issue as it does concern a ton of living people who are all redlinked and then their occupation is listed, but it sure makes for a huge eyesore at the end of the article, does anything need to be done? Some input please. Cheers.  Captain Screebo Parley! 22:25, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * See WP:REDLINK for the guideline on this. But basically, what it says is that unless there's reason to think that the person could have an article written about them, then their name should be de-linked.  There is another problem with the article in that external links shouldn't be used in the article unless they're either in a reference or in an external links section.  So all those dates that are linked, presumably to episodes of the show, should be de-linked.  We're not a hosting service for links to every episode of every program.  Dismas |(talk) 01:17, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm that's what I assumed, and bejesus, I hadn't noticed all the dates linked to the BBC website for every single program, is there any automated way that you know of of dealing with this, there are hundreds of dates to de-link and people to unredlink?
 * You could use WP:AWB. Or if you don't know how to use it, there is a requested work page there. I'd do it myself but I'm not very good with regex.  Dismas |(talk) 01:56, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's the tool I thought of, guess I better get over to the page and make that request. Thanks for the look-in.  Captain Screebo Parley! 10:18, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

i want to change my username but i am unable to do so.
Please guide me with the procedure of changing my username. i have used the wizard but i am unable to do so. please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nabeel.q123 (talk • contribs) 23:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello, have you read Changing username and tried clicking the "simple" link at the bottom?  Captain Screebo Parley! 23:28, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You cannot change it on your own. Moving your userpage doesn't change your username. You can make a request and wait for it to be reviewed. You have already made a request (actually two) at Changing username/Simple. Now wait. If you don't see your request then bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:31, 13 April 2012 (UTC)