Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 April 19

= April 19 =

Citation Bot (DOI bot) is down?
One of the tools I use all the time citation bot (http://toolserver.org/~verisimilus/Bot/citation-bot/doibot.php) is down due to expired password. How do I alert people to this? --Mblumber (talk) 02:36, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Bot owners' noticeboard. Dru of Id (talk) 04:45, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

How do I find back and edit my uploaded files
Hi, I downloaded an image but could not find the link where I can edit it ? Could someone help? Thks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minesota1 (talk • contribs) 09:43, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The file you uploaded is at commons:File:Painting representing Sumo.jpg. You can review your uploads by selecting the "My contributions" link at the top right, then selecting the "Uploads" link at the very top of that page, and finally clicking the "Wikimedia Commons" link on that page. I'm sorry that's so complicated! -- John of Reading (talk) 09:55, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

VPNV4
Kindly update the VPN v4 topic please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.110.32.213 (talk) 11:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It's hard to know what article you're talking about since you haven't provided a link to it, but if you want to take care of it yourself you can either edit the article to update it or, if you don't feel up to the task, you can add " " (just copy & paste everything between the quotation marks) to the top of the article. If you go with the second option, make sure to leave a note at the talk page (click the "talk" tab at the upper left on the VPN v4 article) to explain what part of it is out of date. -Thibbs (talk) 13:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Why do some templates blow up when Transcluded?
Like putting will show a useless block of code.

Shouldn't those be fixed soon? James1011R (talk, contribs) 14:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Also, UW templates don't even blow up, but still people say to subst: them. James1011R (talk, contribs) 14:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Some templates like AFD must be substituted because they contain information dependent on the time that the template was placed. You take a look at User:Worm That Turned/Adopt/Templates.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  14:33, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * (e/c) There are various reasons for subst-ing templates. The documentation for the template explains the reason in that case, that the link to the AfD page mustn't get broken if the page is moved to a new name. And warning templates are subst-ed so that there is a permanent record of the warning that was given, even if the template is edited later to say something else. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:38, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It is done technically by putting "subst:" before the name. LosTrawlt (talk) 03:35, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit Mwakinyungu to denied.
Edit tried make Mwakinyungu, wrong place it says, remove it I did, but denial come! Request removal, visited myself father there lives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuzzy butternut (talk • contribs) 14:33, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The article history shows that you have not made any edits to Mwakinyungu.--ukexpat (talk) 14:37, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Showing it is map, closer to sea! Help you no give? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuzzy butternut (talk • contribs) 14:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The edit filter log shows that you tried several times to blank the article. Can you explain more clearly the edit you were trying to make? -- John of Reading (talk) 14:41, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Place map on wrong! Hope attention receive, close to sea, walk I did with father. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuzzy butternut (talk • contribs) 14:47, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Not to be rude Fuzzy, but your grasp of English makes it hard for us to understand you. There a Wikipedia's in almost every language you can imagine: List of Wikipedias, maybe you would be better off editing in a language you're more familiar with-- Jac 16888 Talk 14:49, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

You say no rude, rude YOU IS VERY! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuzzy butternut (talk • contribs) 14:50, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Obvious troll is obvious.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  14:53, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Jac16888, you might be wrong. AFAIK there is no Yoda language wikipedia yet... - ¡Ouch! (hurt me / more pain) 09:41, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

This was just too funny. Mr Little Irish (talk) © 11:25, 20 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Language of Yoda, you speak? requests for languages, you could try. 66.102.83.61 (talk) 06:12, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Sarah Wilson (journalist)
Hello,

I was looking for information on the "Institute of Integrative Nutrition". I found a link in the "Sarah Wilson" biography, but the link doesn't work.

Can I surmise that there is a contentious reason why the "Institute of Integrative Nutrition" page no longer exists (if it ever did)? If so, can you tell me what the problem is?

Kind regards, C. D'Arcy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.33.50 (talk) 15:45, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The link in the Sarah Wilson article is a malformed external link to http://Institute%20of%20Integrative%20Nutrition - a URL that goes nowhere. There has never been a Wikipedia article named Institute of Integrative Nutrition. One could be written, provided there are enough reliable sources to show that the institute is notable. But this won't happen soon, so for now you should refer to the organisation's website, http://www.integrativenutrition.com/ -- John of Reading (talk) 16:06, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I have removed the link to the external URL that does not exist. (I have also made the lede look less like an advert.) Maproom (talk) 16:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Czechoslovakia
Why is a flag of Germany shows as a predecesor to Czechoslovakia? I though all of it came from the Austro-Hungarian Empire? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.243.1.69 (talk) 16:20, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Not quite all. See Upper Silesia plebiscite. Maproom (talk) 16:26, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I am Logged In, a New User, as " TEXTKNOWLEDGE ", and I have made a Talk Page re: an Article
I am Logged In, a New User, and I have made a Talk Page re: an Article. The Article is Ferrari GT4. There may be other Articles which are closely the same, and the different Articles may be functionally indistinguishable. My Talk Page is "discussion" about 1.) content inaccuracies, which are presented in the Article, as per Specifications described, and, 2.) is "discussion" about the content of the Article which is additional information, amplification, and extrapolation about the subject/object of the Article, because I have substantial direct knowledge and experience with the thing. My main question to Wiki is: Does my Talk Page get Posted automatically to a Discussion section at or about the Article? Where? And, if not, how do I Post the Talk Page to a direct relationship of Discussion of the "Content" of the Article; or am I not permitted to expose a Discussion which is located at the Article? Otherwise; my Talk Page is only talking to itself; and no other reader of Wiki would be involved in my factual material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TextKnowledge (talk • contribs) 17:46, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Your user talk page tells you that your page was deleted, as it was assumed to be a test page. If you want to start discussion about aspects of Ferrari 308 GT4, which redirects to Ferrari GT4, click on the talk tab at the top of that page, and it will take you to Talk:Ferrari GT4.  Make your comments there. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:55, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Use the "New section" tab at Talk:Ferrari GT4. See more at Help:Using talk pages. You created Talk Pages about Ferrari 308 GT4. This was actually an article and part of the encyclopedia. Real talk pages have a colon after Talk. Do you want a copy of the deleted content in Talk Pages about Ferrari 308 GT4? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:33, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Template help
Texas Women's Hall of Fame

Is there some way to make this template hidden by default, or is there a paramter that can be used to hide it when included in an article?--Bbb23 (talk) 19:00, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * To make it hidden by default, edit the template and change "autocollapse" to "collapsed" at line 7. To make it hidden in a particular article, use . -- John of Reading (talk) 19:06, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, John, I'd like to make it hidden by default, but it's not my template. What's the usual practice?--Bbb23 (talk) 19:13, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Bold, revert, discuss applies as usual, I guess. It is a very big navbox, so hiding it by default seems sensible. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:37, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Done - didn't require much encouragement. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 21:35, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, there. I see you collapsed it for me. No problem. I had been thinking of that myself, but had not gotten around to it.Maile66 (talk) 21:46, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Bank Merger-Houston, Texas
Did the Texas Commerce Bank, Houston, Texas, merge with or purchase Firt National Bank-Beaument, N.A., Beaumont Texas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.32.80.20 (talk) 19:07, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.  Rcsprinter  (tell me stuff)  19:49, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Request for Move
How do I view all previous requests to move a particular page to a different name. Best Wishes ' Ankh '. Morpork  20:01, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * There are different ways to make a request. You can examine the talk page, talk page archives and page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:12, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * And if you need help with those, Help:Using talk pages and Help:Page history.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 19:04, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:UserStatus
Is it working? I mean, I made a page with it here but it still shows as "somewhere". Drla8th! (talk) 22:56, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I just looked at the page, and it said your status was "online". Maybe you should try "bypassing your cache as mentioned here?  Fei noh a   Talk, My master 23:00, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I saw that it said somewhere, were you looking in the upper right hand corner of his user page, or were you looking at the status page? Ryan Vesey  Review me!  23:04, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe the problem may be due to the fact that your status page is lowercase. You can move the page or call the template as   Ryan Vesey  Review me!  23:02, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * By the way, you should probably have the template on your talk page as well, that's where people are more likely to read it. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  23:04, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was going to put it there after I saw how it worked at my user page. Drla8th! (talk) 23:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Okay,. Thanks for the help! Drla8th! (talk) 23:14, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Stalker tool
I am trying to locate a tool that displays pages in common between two editors, and which person edited that page first. Best Wishes ' Ankh '. Morpork  23:44, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Tools shows:

Best Wishes ' Ankh '. Morpork  23:56, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Intersect Contribs – compares the edits of two editors in any Wikimedia Foundation wiki to see which articles overlap
 * Wikistalk – similar to Intersect Contribs, allows comparisons between more than two users and namespace selection, works only on the English Wikipedia
 * PrimeHunter (talk) 23:51, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Do any of these tools detect which editor contributed to an article first?
 * Editorinteract is Snottywong's new tool. It should be exactly what you are looking for.  It pulls up the various pages and ranks them by minimum time between edits.  Then you can click on timeline and it will show the order of the edits.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  04:22, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Infobox and template layout clash
I added a table to Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Tuam but it is somewhat long and I would like to tidy it away in a collapsible template like the one below. However, when I tried that, the template containing the table was forced down below the main article infoxbox, so there was an undesirable large white gap in the article. It is as if the collapsible template demands 100% width. I added a CSS width statement but that did not narrow the template. How can I get around this, please? The table appears in the article in the Parishes section of the article. — O'Dea (talk) 23:54, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Add  to the first line of the table so that it reads:
 * That should bring the text up next to the table. -Thibbs (talk) 00:30, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have just tried your suggestion but it made no difference. — O'Dea  (talk) 00:39, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I've made an edit to the article. Did that accomplish what you wanted? If not, then please revert it. -Thibbs (talk) 00:44, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The float portion makes sure that there is never any huge chunks of whitespace, but if you don't mind whitespace when the table is open but you want it gone when it is closed then there are other options. Do you like the way the "History" subsection appears to the right of the table when the table is expanded? Or would you prefer the "History" section to appear below the expanded table (leaving whitespace on the right of the expanded table)? -Thibbs (talk) 00:49, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hah! No wonder my attempt to replicate your instructions did not work. I applied them at the article page within the same type of collapsible box as I used here on this talk page, whereas you simply applied  to the table itself. During my attempts, I applied   both to the collapsible bounding box and to the table itself within the box. Your edit achieves what I wanted without using an outer box, and requires no further work. If I ever want to stop a bounding box taking up less than 100% width (as the blue one above does), I will come here again. Thank you, I appreciate it.  — O'Dea  (talk) 03:46, 20 April 2012 (UTC)