Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 April 3

= April 3 =

Blue article in Google Chrome
I am using Google Chrome. However, every time I view an article, it is always blue. Can you help me fix this problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.231.122.184 (talk) 01:13, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * This is a known bug in Google Chrome when you view Wikipedia with zoom level below 100%. You can reset to 100% with or change up and down with  and . PrimeHunter (talk) 01:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Simple English Wiktionary userbox
Could anyone well-versed with templates please create a userbox for Simple English Wiktionary similar to Template:User Wiktionary. I can't understand the code for Simple English Wiktionary which is "wiktionary" for English Wiktionary. -- Supernova Explosion   Talk  04:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well... I can't make a userbox myself (especially not right now), but something like "simple:wikt:portray", though it actually links to Simple WP, will redirect to the proper page on Simple English Wiktionary. - Purplewowies (talk) 05:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Done. -- Supernova Explosion   Talk  08:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

One-Day International cricket statistics
can you tell me if i have can create a spread sheet from this file with all the ONE DAY INTERNATIONAL Cricket matches ever played (world wide). Can you give me few points what to do please

I want it to show.

game no, Bat 1st Country, WKTS score Overs Time to bowled Bat 2nd Country WKTS score, Overs Time to bowled  Results Overs (Mins)                                Overs (Mins) EXAPLE ONLY 1   ENG. 10    254   50.0    210          Aust. 8  256    49.4    215          Aust. 2 tuns 2   AUST             9     225   50.0    205          ENG.             7   226    48.5    210          ENG   2 tuns

Thank you Darrell Bennett — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.130.95 (talk) 06:25, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you are asking for here. What "this file" are you referring to? Do you want to convert a table in MS Excel to a wikitable for an article? Roger (talk) 07:35, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

I have placed below the basic format you appear to be looking for in a wikitable, as an example. Click edit on this section to see the code. See also Help:Table.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:37, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

I've incorporated the column headings you gave into Fuhghettaboutit's wikitable. What does "2 tuns" mean? Roger (talk) 12:08, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it should be "runs", ie the result of the match - Australia won the first by 2 runs, England the second by 1 run (assuming the scores are correct, not 2 as the table currently states).--ukexpat (talk) 16:26, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * IIRC usually if the chasing side wins the margin is expressed in terms of "with x wickets remaining" while a win "by x runs" is the margin when the side batting first wins. Roger (talk) 11:48, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Should a fact be removed from an articale that describe the context of events when it is related to POV ?
Could someone please visit Talk:March_2012_Gaza–Israel_clashes and help if removal of a fact (using diffrent phrase) is for the benifit of the articale ? as the removal of the fact hides contex of the events 81.218.101.250 (talk) 10:59, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You may want to see WP:Dispute resolution if you need help resolving an existing dispute on an article talk page (although you should generally try to discuss it on the talk page before asking other parties for help). Nil Einne (talk) 17:46, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

John Copley
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/John Copley

Hi I'm trying to get my article on John Copley accepted, but the references don't seem to be up to scratch?

Also, on Ethel Gabain's wiki page the husband 'John Copley' links to John Copley the theatre man, not John Copley, the printmaker and lithographer who I am writing on. Copley is referenced in many different wiki pages, and I'm joining up the dots, but still the page won't be accepted? What can I do?

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheFineArtSociety (talk • contribs) 11:07, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I've removed the faulty link from Ethel Léontine Gabain. As for the referencing, you have been given a number of useful links from your user talk page, particularly to WP:Referencing for beginners.  Have you read those?  Was there something there that you didn't understand?  (I have also commented on your user talk page about your user name.) - David Biddulph (talk) 11:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Company info published on Facebook
My company is featured on Wikipedia and it has now the information shown on Wikipedia has been automatically copied across to Facebook as an "organisation" page. This has been done without the company permission and it conflicts with the local company pages that have been set up on Facebook. Please could you let me know how to remove the Facebook page (there are no known administrators). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.178.107.106 (talk) 11:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has no control over Facebook. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:36, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Scott Hamilton error
I do not wish to log in or create an account, but your article says Scott is 5' 2 1/2". I just saw a video where he himself says he is 5' 4". 216.164.124.249 (talk) 12:02, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip. I've clarified that 5' 2 1/2" was Hamilton's height at the peak of his amateur career, not the height to which he eventually grew. If you could provide details of the video we could include his final height, too. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 14:18, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * And you can edit yourself even without logging in.—  Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:40, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

How to retire
I want to retire my page, but although I see that I need to put retired on the page, I don't understand exactly where or how. Could someone walk me through the process so I do it properly? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brooke McEldowney (talk • contribs) 12:15, 3 April 2012‎ (UTC)


 * See Retiring. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:39, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You need do nothing formal, but sure, you can place that template at the top of User:Brooke McEldowney, though it's a bit inapt in your case. You can't really "retire" from Wikipedia since you never had a Wikipedia "career", which we would translate to being at least a semi-regular editor. You have made only twelve edits so just stop editing and you will be "retired", so to speak.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:40, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

IMDB and an official television network's forum
IMDB and Telemundo's official discussion forum... are they reliable sources by any chance? Because it's stated here that they're not considered as reliable sources, and I'm sure that Telemundo's forum is not exempted from that rule at all. The article in question is Aurora (telenovela). Platinum Star (talk) 13:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You are quite correct. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  13:41, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You might be able to find something through WikiProject Film/Resources to replace the current content in Aurora_(telenovela). Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 13:45, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * As you can see, the editor restored unsourced content twice, even after I said in the comments box that Telemundo's forum and IMDB aren't reliable sources. Kudos to J. Hunter for providing a list of reliable resources. If I can find something on those sites, I'll replace those 2 sources from that article. Platinum Star (talk) 13:51, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Prostaglandin D2
The 2nd paragraph has an error. It writes "A recent paper published by researchrs form the University of Pennsylvania and UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND..."

The capitalized words "UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND" is incorrect. It should read "Johns Hopkins Medical School Department of Dermatology"

thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.129.251.72 (talk) 14:04, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ❌—as far as the current revision shows, no such paragraph exists. The entire paragraph was probably already deleted. 71.163.174.48 (talk) 15:35, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi there, thanks for your comment. I've had a look at the article and it doesn't mention any universities all - perhaps yuo are looking at an old version of the article. Are there any other problems you have? ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 15:44, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The article said nearly that when you posted. The precise text was "A recent paper published by researchers from the University of Pennsylvania and University of Maryland". An editor changed it in . Your quote had two typos which is perhaps why the two previous posters did not notice it in the page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

"Shrapnel" in articles
I found that some articles mention shrapnel when "fragments" would be the correct term. This is explained in the Fragmentation_(weaponry) article. On the contrary, one image has the caption, "Diagram of S-mine in the delivery of steel ball shrapnel". AFAIK, and the "Difference" paragraph seems to support that, the velocity of the steel balls before the explosion is negligible, compared to the velocity after the explosion, and thus there is a "shrapnel" misnomer within the very article. However, I don't see an accompanying "[edit]" field to correct that, neither within the frame, nor does the paragraph containing the image seem to be editable.

Additionally, the File:Shrapnel2.JPG shows an artillery shell fragment which is probably not a shrapnel (as its shape is highly irregular, and shrapnel shells haven't been in military use in the Gulf War). It should probably be renamed to something like "Artillery_shell_fragment_(Gulf_War).JPG", the reason being that file names of that length are used, e.g. in the other file in the gallery, "File:Alte_Granatesplitter(...).JPG".

217.251.152.152 (talk) 14:09, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You can edit the article if you like. However, most dictionaries say that the word "shrapnel" can mean shell fragments in general, so the articles are not wrong.  If it comes to a decision between your opinion of what a word means, and what dictionaries say, we have to go with the dictionaries. --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:28, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi there, thanks for noticing these issues. Might I advise you to post your concerns on the article's talk page? This would be the best course of action, as you'll be able to attract editors who have been working directly on the article. You could also raise it at the Military history WikiProject - there should be editors there who will be able to help.
 * As for being able to edit the page, there should be an edit button next to each heading. If you cannot find that, you could always try the whole article edit button at the top of the page. Let me know how you get on with that. Just to clarify - do you wish to edit the image caption or the main body of text? ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 15:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

ItsZippy: the caption. I'll try that in a moment.

The most dictionaries say that the word "shrapnel" can mean shell fragments in general is fine as it is, as that is supported by the article itself, however I felt that, since the article dedicates an entire paragraph to the exact (military) definition of "shrapnel", there shouldn't be a conflicting (i.e. less exact) usage of "shrapnel" in an image caption on the same screen -- it kind of defeats the purpose.

About the article's talk page: At first, I thought it would be a good course of action, but then, when I didn't find a suitable [edit] link, I thought I'd bring it up here, as it is a question of how to edit (and not purely content-related). And when I found that there was "shrapnel" in a file name, I concluded that I really had to bring it here, as editing the article proper and the file name are two quite different things.

So...
 * I'll drop the file name issue completely, as the more generalized usage of "shrapnel" is applicable and the caption is good.


 * I'll try clicking the "Edit" flap near the top of the article, and see if I can edit the caption then, (WP:WHACK! for not seeing it before I came here).


 * I'll check the "What links here" of the article to find the other loose usage of "shrapnel" (I arrived at the fragmentation article through a link, from a different article), and edit the article(s) where the exact usage of "shrapnel" vs. "fragments" is called for.


 * And WP:WHACK! again for misspelling "Granatsplitter" (shell fragment). ;)

217.251.164.62 (talk) 07:59, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

And then I forgot to [Save] after previewing. Bummer. But now it should be visible.

217.251.154.177 (talk) 08:32, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Altering text size in edit mode
Hi - I am unsure how it happened but the text in my edit box has become very small. After looking I have not found the place to change it back again, please help as my eyes are suffering - You  really  can  14:35, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * By "edit box", are you referring to the text inside the Editing Talk:Death of Sian O'Callaghan? or the Edit Summary box? or? -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 14:45, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Does it happen when you log out? Try to clear your entire cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Possibly ---—  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 14:51, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you all. It was occurring if I went to a talkpage and pressed the edit this page button at the top and then the text inside the edi box was minuscule - no idea how it happened but recently I have been editing from a netbook with a touch to click sensitive touchpad. The preferences Sans serif solution has resolved the issue - many thanks - You  really  can  15:11, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Article rejection, no recourse
Hello, I tried to submit the article for "SkyFiber", but it was rejected as "Declining submission: subject appears to be a non-notable company or organization". I have tried twice to get in touch with Aaron Booth, the reviewer, but he has not responded. We have been in business for over 16 years, and employ over 50 people with two locations in Texas. Our article is comparable to the articles of our competitors that have been approved. (example: Bullseye Telecom). I cannot understand why it was rejected. Please respond so I can make whatever changes are needed.

Thanks, Christina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyfiberinc (talk • contribs) 17:17, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The article on BullsEye Telecom is poor, but it does at least have a claim which suggests possible WP:notability, being in the Inc. top 500. I don't see any thing in the article you submitted to suggest notability. Your best bet is to find reliable secondary sources discussing your company in depth. Incidentally, you may want to reconsider your account username, it could be considered promotional and suggests a possibly shared account both of which are disallowed per our Username policy. Nil Einne (talk) 18:10, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * All the information you need is in the review comment on the submission page: "This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia."
 * Also, to echo what Nil Einne says, your username is clearly in breach of the username policy, and you should create a new account with a non-promotional name if you wish to continue editing. However, if you intend to work on the Skyfiber article you should also read our policy on conflict of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 18:21, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This was a good answer. Yadaldeo (talk) 03:45, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, the current account can be renamed, keeping edit history and discussions; see Changing username. Dru of Id (talk) 04:57, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

References that do not resolve
Can somebody point me to the policy of what to do if a web reference no longer resolves to a valid page (i.e. 404 error or the like)? 18:08, 3 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximilianklein (talk • contribs)
 * See Link rot and the pages it links to in its "See also" section. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:13, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Requesting update of company article
To editors on this help page, I write here with a request on behalf of Emergent BioSolutions for the company's article to be updated following the retirement of Fuad El-Hibri, the former head of the company. I am aware that I should not edit the article myself, so I have explained the changes needed in an an edit request on the article's Talk page. The request includes suggested wording, cited to third-party news sources that have reported the retirement. If you agree with the changes, please can you update the article. Thank you. --Stellatarum (talk) 18:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Never had this happen, not sure how to proceed on The Right One/Together Dating (apparently a defunct website)
This spammy and grossly oudated near-advertisement is for a company which has apparently gone under. It's a field in which I'm severely uninterested; anybody interested in picking up the ball? -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:42, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorely tempted to G11 it, but I don't want my 'nads ending up in tomorrow morning's soup; I think an AfD would be in order fairly soon, if no one fixes it by then. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 19:13, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Where'd my Search go?
Ok within the past couple days (between April 1 and April 3) the search bar (and pretty much everything else) from the top of the page disappeared and hasn't returned so I'm stuck on the front page or whatever pages I can recall how to put the URL into it. I use Google Chrome and I have the latest version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.183.165.30 (talk) 18:55, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that does sound very odd. I'm afraid I don't know the answer myself, but you could try asking at Village pump (technical) - they're good at that kind of thing. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 19:01, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Can you use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search? Try to clear your entire cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:17, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * There is a bug in the latest Google Chrome version which has caused blue background on articles for readers with zoom level below 100%. It doesn't sound like your problem but just in case it's the same bug manifesting itself differently on your system, you can reset Zoom to 100% with or change up and down with  and . PrimeHunter (talk) 19:26, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If you're having a general problem with all webpages, try pressing F11. You may inadvertently be in full-screen mode.  CaptRik (talk) 11:33, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

So I've tried all that. I'm not in full screen, I'm at proper zoom, and I've tried emptying my cache, browsing history, and cookies and still that didn't help. Posted at that Village Pump page thing. We'll see if that helps cause this is bugging me.

New development. It only seems to be my English Wikipedia (and English is my native language) that is being affected. Currently on Simple English but I'm partial to my big words in the normal English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.183.165.30 (talk) 19:15, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Alrighty. Found the Problem. Took forever and much Google Chrome fiddling. The Extension AdBlock thought the entire upper section of the English Wikipedia was an ad and has been blocking it. So hopefully this helps someone randomly having this problem and has AdBlock for Chrome. Disable it on Wikipedia (you don't need it anyways)

Ralph BIRKETT
Ralph Birkett footballer 1933=36. He also had adaughter Linda who married David Pritchard who had two sons Mark and Steven Pritchard Ralphs grandsons .His great -grand children are Hayden and Fraser Pritchard, Ned and Micah Pritchard.2.217.176.152 (talk) 20:20, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello. I'm guessing that you want to add that information to the article Ralph Birkett. But please be aware that all information in Wikipedia is supposed to be referenced to reliable published sources, so that any user can verify it. Unfortunately none of the information in that article is so referenced, and it really ought all to be removed. I have just added one reference but it needs more.
 * However, it is not necessarily appropriate for an encyclopaedia to list a person's family (certainly not if they are not referenced), and almost never their more remote family such as in-laws and grandchildren; so I have removed those lines from the article. --ColinFine (talk) 21:26, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Signature
My previously colourful signature has abruptly stopped working and has reverted to its bland former self, and is struggling to recapture its former vibrancy. I have no idea why this has happened. I tried re-entering the coding but it has little effect. See my Talk page for examples of its former splendour. Coding I formerly used was: Best Wishes ' Ankh '. Morpork  which is working fine here but not when I enter it into the signature box. It then just appears as &#60;br /&#62;Best Wishes &#60;small style&#61;&#34;border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap&#34;&#62;&#39;&#39;&#39;&#91;&#91;User:AnkhMorpork&#124;&#60;b&#62;&#60;font color&#61;&#34;#990000&#34;&#62;Ankh&#60;/font&#62;&#60;/b&#62;&#93;&#93;&#39;&#39;&#39;.&#39;&#39;&#39;&#91;&#91;User talk:AnkhMorpork&#124;&#60;font color&#61;&#34;#000099&#34;&#62;Morpork&#60;/font&#62;&#93;&#93;&#39;&#39;&#39;&#60;/small&#62; (talk) 21:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC) AnkhMorpork (talk) 21:25, 3 April 2012 (UTC) Best Wishes ' Ankh '. Morpork  21:36, 3 April 2012 (UTC) (Actually MyNameWasTaken 21:37, 3 April 2012 (UTC)) Best Wishes ' Ankh '. Morpork  21:39, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Your signature seems to work fine for me, I just cut and paste the code you provided. When you tried re-entering it in your preferences, did you clear the box, save, and then re-enter it?
 * ✅ I selected the Mark up box and it now works again. It seems my setting were restored to default values, how, I have no idea.


 * There should be a checkmark in "Treat the above as wiki markup" at your signature. Your first post looks exactly like you would expect if there was no checkmark at the time. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:42, 3 April 2012 (UTC)