Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 April 4

= April 4 =

Preserved Florida Plantations and Antebellum Homes
Can you send me a list of the Preserved Florida Plantations and Antebellum Homes? Thanks.


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. RudolfRed (talk) 02:35, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure where to ask
I'm after an admin to remove my edit summary if possible, it's poorly expressed, I notice it has many meanings, most of them ok, but one of them is no good. where can I ask about that ? to have the edit removed along with the summary ? Penyulap  ☏  03:10, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Removal of an edit can be done through oversighting or revdeletion—see Requests for oversight and Revision deletion—but I tell you that only in the interests of full information. We don't use these tools to fix botched edit summaries (if we did I would need to make a few requests a day). Rather this is for serious matters, privacy breaches, removal of defamatory content, copyright violations and similarly situated material. What you can do is fix the edit and refer to your prior edit summary stating the problem, or, if you already fixed it, you can make a dummy edit and leave an explanatory edit summary.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:27, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I shall do so. Penyulap  ☏  03:41, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Libel & slander posted on our page
We need help imediantly! An unknown person has posted terrible slander about a third party on the page for American Digger Magazine, unrelated to the page content. This is twice in one week. How do we report this and stop it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.232.124.165 (talk) 03:51, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I've deleted the contentious statements. They were not referenced. (Well, there was a reference, but it did not say what was claimed.) What else can be done needs to be determined by someone with a good mop. Bielle (talk) 04:01, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I have revision deleted all of the offending content.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Acehnese Wikipedia infobox country template
Hi! Would somebody experienced in wikicode take a look at the country template on the Acehnese Wikipedia? ace:Pola:Infobox Country - In ace:Rusia it displays to the left, when it should not be doing this Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 04:15, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to puzzle it out now, but one thing I notice is that ace:Rusia is calling for ace:Rusia infobox rather than MyNameWasTaken (talk) 05:10, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I know very little about CSS but I see that ace:Pola:Infobox Country is based on Template:Infobox Country which starts with . This uses settings in MediaWiki:Common.css which are not present in ace:MediaWiki:Common.css. I don't know who can edit the MediaWiki namespace at ace. There are apparently no administrators. You can also add the wanted CSS directly to the template, for example copying settings from inside   and   in MediaWiki:Common.css to the style parameter in ace:Pola:Infobox country. In  I copied   from   to get a border and position to the right. If you get it into ace:MediaWiki:Common.css then revert my edit. By the way, one of ace:Pola:Infobox country and ace:Pola:Infobox Country should redirect to the other to avoid confusion. I first edited the wrong one. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, guys! It is now displaying to the right WhisperToMe (talk) 16:51, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedia,
I recently read your article about "Sea of Japan(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Japan)" and was quite surprised at the title and contents about 'Sea of Japan'. It was still described Republic of Korea's 'East Sea' as 'Sea of Japan'.

However, it couldn't be named as 'Sea of Japan' because, this sea is inherently belonged to territory of Korea. The sea between Korea and Japan has been Korea's 'East sea' for over 2000 years. Here is a historical precedant for East Sea : http://www.prkorea.com/english/eastsea.html

As a member of VANK, I urge you to use 'East Sea' to describe the body of water in question or both Korean and Japanese designation simultaneously (e.g. 'East Sea/Sea of Japan') in all your documents and atlases.

Once Korea and Japan agree on a common designation, which is in accordance with the general rule of international cartography, we can then follow the agreed-on designation.

Yours very truly, -VANK, Cyber Civilian Diplomat in Korea, consisted of 10,000 Korean voluntary people. Thank you, and we would appreciate your favorable consideration.

http://www.prkorea.org http://www.prkorea.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.55.108.29 (talk) 06:31, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, see Sea of Japan naming dispute. Dru of Id (talk) 07:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Also see Article titles: on Wikipedia, the name commonly used in English is preferred, regardless of what Japan and the Koreas agree to call it. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:54, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Edits by Kristijh
I would like to draw somebody's attention to the edits from the newly formed Kristijh username over the last few hours which seems to be sabotaging pages in quite complex ways. The edits are too complex for me to sort out.--Langcliffe (talk) 06:41, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't call this "sabotage", though the combined effect of those edits did lose the content of one item. Perhaps the editor got confused. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. I thought so too, at first, but my opinion started to change when I looked at other pages he had edited.--Langcliffe (talk) 07:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. I thought so too, at first, but my opinion started to change when I looked at other pages he had edited.--Langcliffe (talk) 07:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I looked into Kristijh Kristijh's contributions to "List of armed conflicts and attacks, January – June 2012." Turns out, "List of armed conflicts and attacks, January – June 2012" alters the long standing pattern for the "List of terrorist incidents" series of stand-alone sub-articles (and not in a good way). The "terrorist incidents" topics have problems, but "List of armed conflicts and attacks, January – June 2012" makes the encyclopedic situation even more difficult. (Compounding things, the first entry to the article was added by a sock puppet). I listed the article for deletion at Articles for deletion/List of armed conflicts and attacks, January – June 2012. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 14:02, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I looked into Kristijh Kristijh's contributions to "List of armed conflicts and attacks, January – June 2012." Turns out, "List of armed conflicts and attacks, January – June 2012" alters the long standing pattern for the "List of terrorist incidents" series of stand-alone sub-articles (and not in a good way). The "terrorist incidents" topics have problems, but "List of armed conflicts and attacks, January – June 2012" makes the encyclopedic situation even more difficult. (Compounding things, the first entry to the article was added by a sock puppet). I listed the article for deletion at Articles for deletion/List of armed conflicts and attacks, January – June 2012. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 14:02, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

article about the Arts District in Los Angeles is a baltant ad for an organization that overstates its significance
Please substitute this spin-free text for the blatant ad for the Business Improvement District, a controversial organization in the Arts District community that represents only one group of stakeholders:

The Los Angeles Downtown Arts District is a community of downtown Los Angeles. It was created in the 1970's when artists moved into the empty warehouse and manufacturing spaces in buildings up to 130 years old in the area between Little Tokyo and the L.A. River. The residents gained legal status when the LA City Council permitted artists to live in their work spaces as live/work space. In the 1990's, at the urging of Arts District activist Joel Bloom, the area was officially designated as the Arts District. It is home to hundreds of artists, musicians, artisans and dozens of arts-related enterprises, including the Southern California Institute of Architecture (Sci-Arc), Cornerstone Theater, ArtShare and a scattering of galleries, cafes and restaurants.

SEE ladaspace.com and laraba.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.213.234.110 (talk) 07:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Is this about Arts District, Los Angeles? If so, are you suggesting to replace all seven paragraphs with that one? —teb728 t c 07:55, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not a good article, it's largely written in marketing speak and has no references, but if you're going to replace it with something else, you need references from reliable sources describing the area (local newspapers would be fine). --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Accutron
why do you make this so difficult to send suggestions to improve this. i donate each year because of the help you are to so many people. i heard today about the history of accutron which was derived out of the space program 50 yrs ago. now the government isn't funding this important research program that helped create so many of our wonderful inventions we use today. when i googled accutron history it came up with facebook and nothing from wikipedia. can your editors research and post it please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.132.33.95 (talk) 13:10, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You may find the Bulova article (to which Accutron redirects) of interest. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 13:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Editing external link
Hi! I have been trying to edit the external link to Jann Browne's official site in the article about her. The link was changed (by the artist) from www.jannbrowne.net to www.jannbrowne.com. The change won't register. What can I do? Thanks in advance. Alain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alain Dormoy (talk • contribs) 13:56, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. I see the change you made to that article, but you are correct, the link wasn't changed.  It is probably a mistake you made with the markup.  I just made the change, and it now works.   BTW, when you use the same reference multiple times in an article, use this guidance:  WP:REFNAME.   Thanks for contributing!  LaTeeDa (talk) 15:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * LaTeeDa refers to your edit from 1 April. If you have tried to change the link later in another edit then it didn't save. Your account is not autoconfirmed yet so you should be asked for a CAPTCHA if you add an external link. The edit only saves if you satisfy the CAPTCHA. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:08, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! Alain Dormoy (talk) 21:07, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

send email link
Hi there

I'm probably being a bit silly but I can't seem to find a direct way of sending an article link in much the same way you would find on other media/newspaper sites.

Please do let me know the errors of my ways.

With respectful thanks.

Nick — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.201.91 (talk) 14:18, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * There is no built in method for unregistered users. You can copy the url from your browser address bar, for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk for this page, and insert it in an email.
 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Sharebox is a script that reorders your toolbox. It adds new buttons that make it easier to mail, print or share an article on Facebook or another linksharing service. You must have an account to add Sharebox to the sidebar. See User:TheDJ/Sharebox for more information. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:54, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Help needed:
I am trying to add this picture to this article on Gujarati Wikipedia, but when I click 'Show Preview', the link turns red. Can somebody please help in this regard? If this is not the right place for my query, please suggest where I should be asking for help. Nickzlapeor (talk) 14:52, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Please upload it at http://commons.wikimedia.org. Then it can be used in all Wikimedia wikis, for example different language editions of Wikipedia. Otherwise it can only be used in a wiki where it has been uploaded. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:59, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * How do I do that? Can I upload the file once again on Commons? I'm new here. :( Nickzlapeor (talk) 15:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * YES! I did that. THANKS a lot! Nickzlapeor (talk) 16:10, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Good. I have deleted the copy at the English Wikipedia per Criteria for speedy deletion. The Commons version is now shown at File:Swaminarayan Bhagwan, Chhapiya.jpg. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:29, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

RfA and RfB Notification Update
Hello, i want to put up the RfA and RfB notification update box on my userpage. I have seen that on many user pages but could not find the required userbox. Just need the template, I'll put it up myself. TheGeneralUser (talk) 15:49, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Is it User:TParis/RfX Report? -- John of Reading (talk) 15:57, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Or this version?

Dru of Id (talk) 16:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes these are the ones, thanks for finding that John of Reading and Dru of Id. But do i have to copy and paste all of their text source ? or is there a shorter syntax for it that will automatically transclude them. TheGeneralUser (talk) 16:10, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * To use my suggestion, you'd code it as . For Dru of Id's version, you'll need to copy three lines of magic from the post here. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:15, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. And one more thing, what does these two sections Dups and Report are for ? It says This tools identifies duplicate voters in RfA or RfB respectively. These duplicate votes (if occur) means they are from the same person right ? TheGeneralUser (talk) 16:53, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's right - there were some duplicate votes in the joke RfA's on April Fools day. I guess the "Report" link would display the list of duplicates. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:49, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you both for your time and kind cooperation! TheGeneralUser (talk) 16:53, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Footnote numbering
In citing sources, should I follow the content or the enumeration of the reference in the Reference list? For example: Alex is also mentioned in Final Destination 3 and appeared via archive footage in Final Destination 5. On the other hand, Tod's death was shown in x-ray format during the opening credits of The Final Destination and briefly in the death montage of Final Destination 5.

Reference
Notice the citation in the last sentence. Should I switch the placement of the reference to correspond the correct number of enumeration, or should I just leave it to correspond the order of how the source was given in the paragraph?  FD Joshua  22  17:01, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The references show in the list in the order they are first invoked and are controlled by the software extension. You can put the in-text citations in whatever order you desire, but adding references may change the numbering. there is no requirement for any particular order.
 * IMdB is not a reliable source; see WP:IMDB.
 * The URLs are showing because you have wikilinks in the title: you can't have both.
 * You don't need to link New York, nor add or link USA: both are pretty notable. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 17:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Haha thanks. But FYI, I wasn't using IMDb as a source, but the film itself. IMDb is used as an additional info for the video. See Template:Cite video for more details.  FD Joshua  22  17:36, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You can use IMdB in the external links section per WP:IMDB. And I recently rewrote cite video and updated the documentation, so I am pretty familiar with it. :) ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 17:44, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh, haha. Well thanks anyway for telling me about not adding wikilinks in references. Good night!  FD Joshua  22  18:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Probable spam user
User:FIITJEE is actually a private organisation. The user has been inactive for a long time. First of all, I don't think it is a valid user name since it is named after an organisation. Moreover, i dont think anybody in the organisation has anything to do with the user since one of its edits on FIITJEE defames itself. Most probably, it is a spam user only. Should it be reported? If yes, where? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roshan220195 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You mean User:Fiitjee? Probably not much point doing anything as their last edit was in August 2009.--ukexpat (talk) 18:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that one only. Anyway thanx :) Roshan220195 (talk) 18:14, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Suggested minor wording-improvement is offered, for the "My Watchlist"'s status message (which reports the total number of pages that one is Watching)
After one logs-in and hits the button at the top labeled "My Watchlist", then one sees the following status message...

"You have ### pages on your watchlist (excluding talk pages)"

...however that message might instead be phrased more accurately as something like this:

"You have ### pages on your watchlist (excluding those talk pages which you do not own)"

Thanks for having considered this issue.

Sincerely, North Alabama 000 (talk) 18:09, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No, you don't own any pages at Wikipedia. When you watchlist a page, you automatically watchlist a talk page associated with it, so the number of pages you are watching is always exactly double the number in the above quote. That's why it is written that way; the # excludes talk pages because to include them would be redundant, and it has nothing to do with ownership. -- Jayron  32  18:14, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for having taken to time to kindly comment, Mr. Jayron32. I am sorry for having used the quick-and-dirty terminology which erroneously implied that "I own".  The original symptom was there are no pages which I have added to my watchlist, and yet the status message says "You have 2 pages on your watchlist", which in turn are the user and sandbox pages associated with my userID.  After having reflected upon your explanation, I now agree the current wording of that status message is perfect as-is.  Once again thanks, and more power to you, North Alabama 000 (talk) 21:17, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No pages are watched automatically. Perhaps you once clicked the "Watch this page" box before saving edits to your user and sandbox page. You can remove them from your watchlist. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:22, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually you do have the option to have all pages you edit automatically added to your watchlist. Roger (talk) 17:12, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That option is at Special:Preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:43, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

blue background
can you let me know why the pages on wikipedia have turned blue please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.221.116 (talk) 19:06, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * as per above:
 * There is a bug in the latest Google Chrome version which has caused blue background on articles for readers with zoom level below 100%... you can reset Zoom to 100% with or change up and down with and.
 * Hopefully this helps.  " Pepper "  @ 19:09, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * This has been coming up enough that I created ; mercilessly appropriating your text. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 22:50, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Good idea.  " Pepper "  @ 18:50, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

My sandbox problem
When I edit in my sandbox, "below the line", Nothing I type can be seen. The only things that can be seen when I edit is when I type over the line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drla8th! (talk • contribs) 20:10, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Drla8th! I've just had a look, the problem was that the line had been changed. The line uses code which hides things from view: anything enclosed in can only be seen in the edit box. The line had been changed to  (with the extra exclamation mark), which meant that the code hadn't finished. I've fixed it for you now, so writing below the line should work again. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 20:17, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a ton, ItsZippy-Drla8th! (talk) 20:20, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

trouble adding caption for image
I created a graph on wikipedia commons and used it in an article here where I tried to add a caption to it (shown here)

Here is the wiki code used:  ... but as you can see the hoped for caption: "Source: Economic Policy Institute. 2011. More compensation heading to the very top: 1965-2009. May 16, 2011" does not appear in the article.

Other images in the article have captions (such as here)

... So what am I doing wrong? --BoogaLouie (talk) 20:19, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Disregard this question. the caption appears now. (?????)--BoogaLouie (talk) 20:24, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You were lacking  before the 400px. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

User page
Hello,

Recently, my userpage has had a list of a bunch of random articles on it, but when I click edit, it's not there. How do I get rid of this list?

 pluma  ♫ '''♯ 23:45, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It's a failed archiving. I will clean it up and try to prevent it from happening again. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:04, 5 April 2012 (UTC)