Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 April 7

= April 7 =

Odd edit that I don't understand


Could someone explain what this user did? They have an edit that is an upload of a file (the image of Alexis Texas). But the image is already on Commons. So why upload a file here that is already on Commons? Is this just a newbie test or some prelude to vandalism? Dismas |(talk) 01:08, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I fear they don't comprehend what we do with images here. I deleted at least one picture they uploaded which had like ten lines of "this is my copyrighted image and if you want to discuss rights this is how you contact me"; but which the Minor had tagged as "own work". -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  01:38, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Got it, thanks! Dismas |(talk) 18:11, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Feedback request
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Taracd/Numi_Organic_Tea

I had previously made a wikipedia article for Numi Organic Tea and it was deleted. This time I made the article in my userspace so I could get feedback from admins before publishing it. Can someone help me out with how to go about getting feedback on my article? Thanks!

Taracd (talk) 06:18, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * There are a couple different options, the most sure-fire method is to locate people directly who may have some relationship to the topic, for instance, members of WikiProject Food and Drink. Another good option at this point would be to move it to the mainspace (as it looks fairly complete in its basic coverage, is well-sourced, and has a neutral point of view) and then submit it to Did you know, a process that works to feature Wikipedia's newest content. If you submit it there, not only may it appear on the front page (which is always cool!) but you're sure to get more people looking at it, some of whom may offer suggestions or make additions of their own. It is also guaranteed review by at least one person, although they will mostly be focused on making sure it meets the DYK guidelines. If you go the latter route, feel free to contact me if you have questions about the process. The guides at WP:DYK are fairly good though. Best of luck! MyNameWasTaken (talk) 06:29, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I think you need to have a look at WP:NOTADVERTISING, particularly the part that says "All information about companies and products are written in an objective and unbiased style. All article topics must be verifiable with independent, third-party sources." I followed up some of the sources and found the ones I looked at were simply press releases from the company. They simply won't do as independent sources. The article also contains several instances of what read like advertising clichés, such as "a premium quality tea company", "Numi is committed to...", "offers a variety of...", etc. Wikipedia articles need to be written with facts, not philosophies written in advertising jargon. Although they're in a different market, maybe look at Tetley and Lipton to see a more appropriate style of writing. Hope this helps. HiLo48 (talk) 06:40, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Time
Hi there, how can I adjust the time here at Wikipedia? On my computer it says it is 10.00 when it actually is 12.00. Zaminamina (talk) 08:17, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You can alter your time settings by accessing the Date and Time tab of your preferences. By default, all times are listed as UTC (aka GMT) since that is the official timezone for the encyclopedia, but you can easily change your settings to reflect your local time. MyNameWasTaken (talk) 08:33, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Zaminamina (talk) 08:57, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Special:Preferences has the additional option "Change UTC-based times and dates, such as those used in signatures, to be relative to local time." PrimeHunter (talk) 11:26, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Open access template
I wanted some pointers on where I could use the OA template in citations. Should the journal be CC compatible or can it be used when ever there is free access (but no redistribution/reuse) like ASM journals? For e.g.would be OK? How else can I mark freely accessible references ? Any Idea if the OA-ness template is is going to be integrated into the cite journal template? Thanks Staticd (talk) 10:59, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Not sure we need the icon. Placing it at the end of the citation disconnects it from the relevant URL, but placing it inside the citation adds a bunch of markup. You can bring this up at Help talk:Citation Style 1. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 14:00, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I added a thread request at Cite journal talk, but Gadget850's recommendation to bring up the request at Help talk:Citation Style 1 seem a better (more global) way to go. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 14:07, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I moved your discussion to the Help talk page, since any change like this would have to be universal. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 14:12, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

deuterosessionism
Tikva Frymer-Kensky is editor of the book : " Christianity in Jewish Terms " that have read. This book deals mainly with a thinktank set of views of what is deuterosessionism to correct past error in Christianity assuming as, say: it is valid to use ' perfidious' referring to the Jews on Good Friday in a religious prayer service for any Jew not choosing to become christian. Space bar entry in Wikipedia shows link to place(s) where 'Tikva Frymer-Kensky' noted in Wikipedia, say : ' Judaism ' section. The book,quite erudite,and a good read intellectually for some is quite convincing for its arguing that deuterosessionism serves as a valid stance to have personally despite pretension of some Christian organizations to the contrary such as Jews for Jesus group deceptively trying to make interested Jews into completed Jews by making them Christians and tearing them away from other members of their families that will have nothing more to do with the family members becoming Christians from abandoning the Abraham-Sarah-Isaac-Jacob... covenant with the monotheistic G-d of Judaism established historically much prior to any Jesus movement historically evolving into Christianity in the broad sense.Jews for Judaism group tries to counter the Jews for Jesus group by trying to bring completed? Jew back to the fold of Judaism by counseling and restore if possible the fractured Jewish family by helping its former member to be restored. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.15.129 (talk) 11:06, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * This page is only for questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia. Are you in the right place? Actually, I'm not sure if the above is even a question... AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:46, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I looked at articles linking to Tikva Frymer-Kensky, but did not see any 'Judaism' sections. However, I did find Ruth Langer#Jewish-Christian Relations, an article that mentiones Tikva Frymer-Kensky and "Christianity in Jewish Terms". Is there a particilar matter with which you would like help? -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:41, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Problems with the new Wiki I-Phone App
Hello,

How do I turn on Wilki so that I get pictures at present I only get text? This new I-Phone program is version no where near as good as the Previous version so I don't understand how it could be considered as An updated. I think is a step in the wrong direction and as it is I don't see it as an Improvement.

I'd really appreciate an answer for my question about how to turn on The program so that I can get pictures like before?

Thank you.

Fab, Sydney Australia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.124.72.66 (talk) 11:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The project page has a link to the e-mail address you can write to for help. RudolfRed (talk) 23:56, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

My name appears in eo.wikipedia which I have never visited
Hi! When I log in as Fjados and look at My preferences, there is a link called View global user info. If I click on that, I get to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACentralAuth&target=Fjados and there, to my surprise, I find that Fjados has been attached to eo.wikipedia.org on 20:27, 2 April 2012 by some method unknown to the system, and unknown to me as well. I hope this is not ill intended! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fjados (talk • contribs) 12:21, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Your account is created automatically (see eo:Special:Logs/Fjados) if you visit any page at a Wikimedia wiki when you are already logged in to a unified account. Your browser history may reveal you visited a page at eo.wikipedia.org 2 April. Doing this without realizing it is far more likely than anything sinister. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:18, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

How to change casing in article title - 'The' to 'the'
Hi there. I recently submitted an article on the George Harrison song "The Lord Loves the One (That Loves the Lord)" − here. Problem is, the two definite articles (forgetting title's first word) (e.g., "The Lord Loves  T he One (That Loves  T he Lord)") are capitalised on the page, yet in track listing for the Living in the Material World album, these words are lower case (the) (e.g., "The Lord Loves  t he One (That Loves  t he Lord)") − which means the link from the album page doesn't work, of course. I tried changing the 'DEFAULT' tag in the article to show 'the's instead of 'The's, but that doesn't seem to have worked. Would welcome some advice on this, because there are other articles that link to this song as well. Many thanks, JG66 (talk) 13:12, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Either move the page to The Lord Loves the One (That Loves the Lord) or create a redirect on that title. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:23, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The move, which is eminently justified per MOS:CT, apparently requires an admin's help, since according to the notice one gets when attempting to move it, "the title 'The Lord Loves the One (That Loves the Lord)' is on the title blacklist". Deor (talk) 14:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I moved the page. Ruslik_ Zero 14:47, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks everyone! JG66 (talk) 23:27, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Fixing old vandalism
A single edit back in March removed the word "common" from Bottlenose dolphin, creating recursions (common bottlenose dolphin exists). Since "undo" does not work, is there a faster way for me to re-add all the "common" deletions than two-window comparison and manual editing? 71.234.215.133 (talk) 14:22, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't think of any faster way, given the edits that have happened since. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:43, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, there is: you can look at the edits that have happened since and see how comprehensive they are. Figure out which would be more work: restoring all of the "common" deletions or simply reverting everything and then putting back the edits that have happened since.  In this case, if you hadn't already restored "common" (thanks a lot for the help!), you would save yourself some effort to revert everything and then put back the more recent productive edits.  Nyttend (talk) 04:21, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Article comes up twice
Hi there My article is coming up twice (with minor differences) in the preview page and on the page I'm trying to create but only once in the edit space. How do i rectify this? the URL of my sandbox is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Carlyplevy thanks Carlyplevy (talk) 14:51, 7 April 2012 (UTC)carly


 * I fixed it by removing the double curly brackets {{ from "Margaret Lantis (1906-2006)" at the top of the draft text. Double curly brackets are used to create templates, using them incorrectly creates problems. BTW you have created the draft on your user page, not your sandbox.You user page is meant to be for posting stuff about yourself. I could move the draft to your actual sandbox if you'd like. Roger (talk) 15:27, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * (ec) Seems you created the article in template space (as Template:Margaret Lantis (1906-2006)).Articles should be created in the article space. I have moved it for you to Margaret Lantis (the dates are not needed unless there was another American anthrpologist of the same name).The article does need some work: Some people might view it as a memorial (Wikipedia is not the place for a memorial or obituary), it also says nothing about here earlier life and does not have a proper lead section saying when and where she was born, her education, and so on. Wikilinks need to be added so it is linked to from other articles and it provides links to other articles. Read WP:MOS for general guidance of the editorial standards expected.  Astronaut (talk) 15:33, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I also put the template up for speedy deletion. Astronaut (talk) 15:36, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Note that the draft on your user page User:Carlyplevy and the article at Margaret Lantis are separate pages and there are quite a few differences in the text. The article urgently needs an introduction - a few lines that briefly say who she was and what she is notable for. Roger (talk) 15:43, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Ddate of birth and additional info
I represent Nadia khan at the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadia_Khan. Her Ddate of birth and additional information such as her current show details are written incorrect. As far date of birth is concerned someone is giving a reference of a magazine. Her date of birth is 1979 instead of 1972. Also she is doing her own show currently on geo tv without any co host. Also i would like to add photo of her but it keeps getting removed.

Let me know how i can protect this page as i manage all online responsibilities of Nadia khan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nadiakhanshow (talk • contribs) 17:22, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You can edit the page, if you have a reliable source for the information. Also read the policy on conflict of interest.  RudolfRed (talk) 18:04, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You cannot protect the page: see WP:OWN. Anybody may remove unreferenced wrong information from the page, but you should not remove information which is referenced to a reliable source. I would be inclined to agree that http://newasianbeauty does not like very much like a reliable source, but I think it is borderline: best would be if you can find an independent reliable source which gives the date that you claim. You should generally not make changes to the page, but you are welcome to suggest changes on the talk page Talk:Nadia Khan. --ColinFine (talk) 16:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * And as for the photo, as the edit summary said, the photo was deleted from Commons because of copyright violation. Wikipedia welcomes photos of the subjects of articles, but they must be either public domain or released under a suitable licence: see WP:Donating copyright materials. --ColinFine (talk) 16:43, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

External web links
We have recently set up a new web based community TV channel. We noticed that one of the villages we serve put in an external link, but it was incorrect so I have just put in external links from all the small villages and towns our voluntary station serves but they have been deleted and I received a warning saying I must not do it. I do not understand why - please help - thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by LindyFW (talk • contribs) 18:02, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The relevant guideline is External links, which precludes users Spamming the same link repeatedly throughout article space. Dru of Id (talk) 18:08, 7 April 2012 (UTC)