Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 August 26

= August 26 =

Flag of Yugoslavia vanished?
Hi folks, I noticed across a few Eurovision articles (pre-1992) that the flag icon for Yugoslavia has suddenly disappeared. The main article itself Flag of Yugoslavia has the flag shown at the top of the infobox, yet when you click on that image File:Flag of SFR Yugoslavia.svg, it states the file has been deleted since 2007, yet the flag icon has been around for quite some time and has only now vanished. Are nations flags suppose to get deleted? Also the image alone was being used on over 100 pages according to the file usage info. Any way around fixing this issue? Thank you.  Wesley  Mouse  01:31, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It was just deleted at Commons, I don't know why the servers haven't caught up yet. See .  I've left a note at the Commons admin who deleted it asking for an explanation.  -- Jayron  32  01:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you ever so much Jayron. I thought my head was going delirious when I saw 2007 as the deleted year.   Wesley   Mouse  02:05, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm also not sure why it was deleted. There was another copy of this flag under another name that was nominated for deletion because it was redundant, and it looks like the Commons admin deleted this one instead.  I've asked him for further comment.  -- Jayron  32  02:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming it is unusual to have a flag deleted? I did notice the reason stated was redundant on a file that I can only guess is the French version of the file.  OK, the country no longer exists, but surely the flag would still be used for historical purposes on articles relating to the history of Yugoslavia.   Wesley   Mouse  02:12, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Flag of Chad.svg has also been deleted, another heavily used image. However, the deletion nominator has just responded noting that s/he has nominated 4 flags in error.  If s/he knew it was in error, why didn't they leave a note on the discussion page!?  Logical thing to have done surely.   Wesley   Mouse  02:20, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Please put a colon in front of the word File when you mean to link images. See Help:Link for more. BigNate37(T) 04:26, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought I had done, so sorry. But I see the images have been restored now, thank you everyone who helped.   Wesley   Mouse  12:04, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Just as a follow up, I checked into these two flags, and it looks like they have been restored at Commons. -- Jayron  32  02:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Sue barker
You seriously need to look at sue barkers date of birth, guessing she's not over 100 years old as she's still on bbc1. Kind regards jemma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jemmadimmock (talk • contribs) 01:33, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Its showing as 1956. Someone reverted it from 1856 to 1956 yesterday.   Wesley   Mouse  01:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Nevado dl Tolima
How do make small revisions to my recent revisions on this topic? Cheers, Steve Ingham 211.27.5.168 (talk) 01:59, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You recent additions to Nevado del Tolima were removed by another user from the article as a violation of Wikipedia's policy against original research. All additions to Wikipedia must be based on information found in reliable sources, not on personal experiences and conversations.  If you wish to add information, you need to find it published somewhere first.  -- Jayron  32  02:04, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt reply. Eventually, I found relevant information on the crater in Peakware.com under "El Nevado del Tolima". Is this sufficient, or do I need to provide additional info? I'm new at this. Cheers, Steve Ingham — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inghams3 (talk • contribs) 01:45, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Akamai University is Accredited
. http://www.akamaiuniversity.us/accreditation.html

Please review this site for verification of Akamai University's status.

Thank you,

Dr. Dale McSherry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.199.128.158 (talk) 04:18, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Akamai University doesn't have an article, so which article do you think needs a correction? Also, there are many different accrediting agencies, so its possible that what you saw was reffering to a specific type of accreditation.  RudolfRed (talk) 04:50, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The good Doctor was possibly referring to the university's inclusion in List of unaccredited institutions of higher education. As the given reference didn't mention Akamai, I've removed it from the list. Rojomoke (talk) 06:42, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know how Rojomoke missed it, but the cited source lists Akamai in the subsection "Schools that are not Authorized to Offer Degrees in the State of Oregon", in alphabetical order between African Distributed University and Al Qasim University. I restored it to the list. --Orlady (talk) 15:08, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Autoarchiving of urls
Is there any tools I can use which can autoarchive all the urls used in an article? :) IndianBio (talk) 07:46, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, there used to be this one, but I kind of doubt that any request you submit will be fullfilled. You could try it though. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:10, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You can also try User:Dispenser/Checklinks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:13, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Problem with tooltips
The tooltips are very useful, but there seems to be a problem. If I hover over a reference, the tootip appears (showing for example the book author and title), but then it just stays there. It doesn't seem possible to close the tooltip. After a while the page ends up plastered with tooltips, making it impossible to read the article. The only solution I have found is to refresh the page. Is there a hidden function to close a tooltip? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urstromtaler (talk • contribs) 10:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It is probably a problem at your end - personally, I have never had any problems. What page and browser are you using? Mdann52 (talk) 11:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

dominic blizzard born 2nd september 1985
my name is dominic blizzard you seem to have the incorrect information about me on wikipedia as i have tried to edit the information but have been able to.i was born on the 2nd of september 1985 but your incorrect information has 1983 as i am unable to change the information myself i would very much like it chaned asap.thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.75.252 (talk) 11:20, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I have corrected the date of birth given in the article Dominic Blizzard. Maproom (talk) 12:26, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You'd changed the infobox; I've now changed the lede to match. Rojomoke (talk) 12:38, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Script problems
Can someone chensk my Commons script page? It appears to not be working, even after restarts, cache clearing etc. Thanks, Mdann52 (talk) 12:56, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * There was at least one significant error,which I have now removed. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 13:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

One article about two different record labels of the same name
There is a dispute going on in the talk page of the CBS Records article. Someone wants to include excessive material about the former CBS Records label which is now Columbia Records and the former CBS Records company which is now Sony Music Entertainment. The current CBS Records was founded in 2006. There is already a hatnote directing a reader to the Columbia Records article for the former CBS Records label and Sony Music Entertainment for the former CBS Records company. Steelbeard1 (talk) 13:47, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks like the discussion is ongoing. If you find the discussion becomes unproductive or you cannot reach consensus, then you can follow the steps at WP:DR RudolfRed (talk) 00:53, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Problems updating our business logo
New to editing on Wiki. I'm trying to use the "Upload File" wizard. I get the form filled out (all the mandatory fields), click on "This is a logo of an organization" everything looks good but the upload button is greyed out or inactive so I can't upload a new file to replace our old one. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Please help. Thanks

Here is our page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Sierra_Resort trying to use the following new logo http://www.grandsierraresort.com/uploads/templates/grandsierraresort-logo-horizontal-blk.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grandsierraresort (talk • contribs) 15:29, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ I have uploaded it for you, see the article. Happy editing!  Theo polisme  :) 17:13, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Files for speedy deletion — notification template in infoboxes?
Is it possible to use Template:Deletable image-caption on images that are displayed through infoboxes? I am looking at File:Buglioni Entrance, 2012.jpg in the article Frank Buglioni, and I don't see how I can affix deletable image-caption to it. BigNate37(T) 18:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I added this template to the caption. Ruslik_ Zero 19:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I see. Thanks. BigNate37(T) 03:36, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Essay or guidline wanted
I remember coming across some essay or guideline recently that encouraged users, when editing an article, to stick to the article's topic and not to write about things that are not directly relevant to it. I wasn't able to find it again right now. Which one could it be? --Theurgist (talk) 20:21, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * WP:COATRACK or WP:TOPIC? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:36, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * WP:COATRACK it was. Its counterintuitive name, as well as its not being linked from the template, prevented me from finding it again quickly. The WP:TOPIC section is fine too. Now I'm using them to possibly prove myself wrong in a discussion I'm involved in. Thanks a lot. --Theurgist (talk) 20:46, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Userbox alignment
Hi, how do you center a userbox? On my userpage, I want to center the userboxes above the hidden boxes under 'contributions'. The  tags aren't working. TRLIJC19 ( talk  •  contribs ) 21:37, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * How about ? TBrandley 21:40, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope :/ TRLIJC19  ( talk  •  contribs ) 21:43, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, try:

TBrandley 21:46, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope, and that adds a wikitable. TRLIJC19  ( talk  •  contribs ) 21:51, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

I figured it out. Thanks, TRLIJC19  ( talk  •  contribs ) 22:22, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Request to review + undo an edit
Hello, I was wondering if someone can review and undo this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Howard_Fineman&diff=508477481&oldid=506429483. The edit simply added the phrase "liberal" to this article--and appears to be a pattern across a handful of articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.208.12.192.

I would undo it myself; however I have an employment relationship with the subject of this article, and being mindful of WP:COI, I'd prefer to refrain from making direct edits to the article.

Thanks, Jeff Bedford (talk | COI declaration) 23:01, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Dismas |(talk) 23:19, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much, Dismas. --Jeff Bedford (talk | COI declaration) 02:16, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Why doesn't my template work?
I created Template:Cite London Olympics to assist in improving some articles on Olympians; however, it doesn't work when I substitute it. See here for an example. I would prefer it to be substituted if possible. In addition, even if I transclude it, the template won't substitute date onto the page. Did I make an error with my formatting or is my goal impossible? Ryan Vesey 23:41, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You cannot substitute templates within the  tags. For example,   doesn't work. There are two related workarounds: (1) wrap the substitution with  —  (2) wrap it with refn, which is a template containing the first option— . Goodvac (talk) 00:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. What do you think of the current status of the template? Ryan Vesey 00:40, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I was thinking more along the lines of not changing the template and just using refn around the substitution in articles, but the current way is fine. You'll just have to remember not to use  tags around it. Please also add a note to the template documentation explaining that ref tags are not needed when substituting the template. Oh, I see you've already done so.  Goodvac (talk) 00:54, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I would have done it on my own, but it was added to WikiProject Olympics. If other editors are using it, I'd like it to be as simple as possible.  Thanks for your assistance.  (All this said, I don't understand what the rationale for not substituting templates within ref tags is.) Ryan Vesey 01:06, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. I think it's a technical limitation related to that described at WP:REFNEST. Goodvac (talk) 01:15, 27 August 2012 (UTC)