Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 December 11

= December 11 =

LPFM radio Christchurch NZ
have just had to update this page AGAIN as someone has deleted our radio station and link being Shakey Fm www.shakeyfm.co.nz

what we want to know is why and how when we have submitted this ourselves   it seems rather unfair and  that  we were not notified of the removal so as that we can replace it  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shakeyfm (talk • contribs) 04:03, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You should not be adding it at all. See Conflict of interest and FAQ/Organizations for more information.  Wikipedia discourages people from adding content regarding themselves or organizations or business entities they have a vested interest in promoting.  -- Jayron  32  04:22, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Beside that, I find no indication that your station was ever listed before in List of LPFM stations in New Zealand. It certainly was not added by your account. You did add it to two other articles, and those listings are still there. —teb728 t c 04:45, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Wordspoeticallyworth, blogger
You're site is inaccurate and biased,and predudice, and racist, and you're fundelmentalists, of a grave concern! GOOD BYE ADN GOD BLESS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.217.195.105 (talk) 13:11, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * If this is about articles in Wikipedia, please tell us what specifically is wrong and help us to improve it. If it is not about Wikipedia, then you have come to the wrong place with your complaint. --ColinFine (talk) 14:42, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

aisha computer technologies
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 * There's no question there or stated issue. You likely won't get a response without those. And a signature ( ~ ) would be useful after your message in future. Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 14:45, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Have you a question about using or editing Wikipedia? That is what this page is for. --ColinFine (talk) 14:43, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Group Users
What should I do if I suspect that a username has been registered on behalf of an organisation? Is there a place to report them? Rojomoke (talk) 13:51, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If it's a breach of the username policy, then posting at Usernames for admin attention will get the quickest response. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  13:55, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Never mind. Found Usernames for administrator attention  Rojomoke (talk) 14:02, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Change the article name
Hey,

I'm in need of your help for changing the title of the following article: Article

It needs to be changed to "Campus for Supply Chain Management", and I am not able to do so :-(

Thank you so much in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arutan04 (talk • contribs) 14:29, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It's been built into an Articles for creation subpage. So the current name is Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Campus for Supply Chain Management.
 * Am i correct in my understanding that you prefer a simpler Campus for Supply Chain Management?
 * It's not a bad beginning article but it needs more work, and more citations. Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 14:39, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The most appropriate action would be to place the code  at the top of the page, in order to submit it for AFC review. Once it's been approved by a reviewer, they will move it for you. Yunshui  雲 &zwj; 水  14:41, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Your AFC draft Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Campus for Supply Chain Management has not yet been submitted for review. I've added a template with a link to allow you to submit it when ready, but at present it wouldn't be acceptable.  It would need references to independent reliable sources that demonstrate the subject's notability. Other editors  can comment further. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:43, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Maybe I am being too cynical but it looks to me like an advertisement masquerading as an article.--ukexpat (talk) 16:15, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Biased content of entry on Susquehanna River Basin Commission
Recently, an article in Wiki about the Susquehanna River Basin Commission (SRBC) was edited by an individual who we believe has a grievance with the SRBC. This person is now promoting his edits on Facebook.

The SRBC is a federal-interstate compact commission formed by the states of New York, Pennsylvania and Maryland, and the U.S. Government, to manage the water resources of the Susquehanna River Basin. As such, the Commission exercises governmental powers bestowed on it jointly by the four member jurisdictions to protect water resources and users of water resources.

The new content (example: “Riverdale Mobile Home Park”) lacks objectivity, attempts to create a bias against the Commission, and is factually skewed to one Commission project action without regard to over 1,000 other project actions that SRBC has issued. This just isn’t what an encyclopedic reference is supposed to do and it reflects badly, not only on the SRBC, but also on the reputation of Wikipedia as a trustworthy source of information. It further distorts and places in a false light the work of a government agency charged with official responsibilities under state and federal law.

Several months ago, the same individual created a fake Facebook page for the SRBC. We were able to contact Facebook and have it removed. For similar reasons, we’d now like to know what course of action we can take to remove the biased content of this Wiki entry, and protect the article from future changes that seek to create bias instead of promoting objectivity. We believe that it is in both your interest and the interest of SRBC to insure that unbiased, reliable and objective information about SRBC appears on your Wiki pages. Please be in contact with me at your earliest convenience to discuss the actions that we can pursue to rectify this situation.

Richard A. Cairo, Counsel Susquehanna River Basin Commission — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.163.144.9 (talk) 14:55, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well first off you can't "protect" or guard the article because you don't own it. Secondly you could edit the article yourself, although you probably shouldn't because of Conflict of Interest.
 * I'll take a look at the recent edits. Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 15:16, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree with above. I'm leaning toward undue weight in the article. I do have to say that I'm impressed by the tone here which clearly says "lawyer" while, IMO, remaining within the bounds of WP:No Legal Threats. I'll take a look at the article as well. (Frankly I'm sort of amazed that similar changes haven't been made at Aqua America.Naraht (talk) 15:46, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with the above, and have reverted the edits (based on my own judgment, not on Mr. Cairo's). Maproom (talk) 16:29, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Lady Palumbo - article - please remove this write up as it was done without my consent - thank you
Dear Sir the wiki write up on Lady Palumbo is done without her consent so please remove it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.137.206.31 (talk) 16:01, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Certainly not! Even if you are who you claim to be, this is a reference work, and the subjects of our articles have no say-so over whether we have articles about them. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  16:10, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Firstly, there is no article for Lady Palumbo, although there may well be under another name. Secondly you have no ownership over information on Wikipedia and so the information will not be removed solely because you or she disagree with it. Biography of a living person policy is one thing working in your favour, but then Conflict of interest and ownership are working against you. Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 16:12, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I think the IP is referring to User:Wikibiohistory/Hayat Palumbo, Lady Palumbo, which looks to me like a WP:STALEDRAFT.--ukexpat (talk) 16:18, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ - problem solved then, it was deleted ツ Je no va  20  (email) 16:23, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Sandbox question
I'm allowed to delete the template at the top of my sandbox and replace it with a heading right? Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 16:39, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, you can do anything you like in your User page and subpages, as long as it is consistent with WP:USERPAGE. Having said that, I wonder if what you are asking is whether you can change the name for the page from User:Jenova20/sandbox to a differently-named subpage of User:Jenova20. If that's what you want, you need to move it. --ColinFine (talk) 16:55, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. To be more specific, i mean removing the tag as i have. I replaced it with a yellow box and some of that relevant info. Thanks again ツ Je no va   20  (email) 17:10, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * As far as I know the sandbox tag is automatically placed there on all new sandboxes and can be deleted at will. At the main sandbox it will be automagically replaced for the next user. About the only thing I would avoid is adding a tag that said that your sandbox was a wikipedia policy or guideline, for example. About the Sandbox has some specific advice about sandboxes. Apteva (talk) 03:56, 12 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Note that User sandbox adds  which prevents the page from being indexed by external search engines like Google. It's not a requirement but many users prefer to avoid indexing of whatever junk is currently in their sandbox. Some people and organizations are annoyed if a Wikipedia user page shows up when their name is Googled (wikipedia.org has a high page rank). You can add   (double underscores on each side) or noindex directly if you want. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:12, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Thanks PrimeHunter ツ Je no va  20  (email) 09:16, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

What to do in case of edit conflict to not lose your writing?
Thank you. Keeeith (talk) 17:28, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * When you get the edit conflict the instructions are posted, there are two windows, one has your edit, one has the most recent edit. Copy from your edit to the most recent edit, and save. --kelapstick(bainuu) 17:35, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Keeeith (talk) 17:39, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Banc De Binary
A while ago, an article Oren Laurent was created - he is notable only as the founder of Banc De Binary. An editor suggested that the article had been created as a coatrack.

Now a Banc De Binary article has been created. All its references were to Youtube and to the Band De Binary's own material, so I have removed them. This business is listed by the US Securities and Exchange Commission because it claims to reside in the US but does not. I suspect that the Cyprus-registered business is a scam, hoping to use Wikipedia to give itself some credibility. I hope that some other editors will keep an eye on the article. Maproom (talk) 18:03, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * In just under an hour the article was deleted for #A7. Tiggerjay (talk) 06:31, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Problem uploading new versions of images
I recently uploaded a new version of File:Jack the Giant Slayer.jpg but it continues to display the old version. The new version only displays in the file history.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:05, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It can take time for a new image to propagate its way to articles that use it. See Purge for ways to speed it up. Maproom (talk) 19:41, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response, I have never encountered this problem before. The new version doesn't even appear in file space much less article space. I just tried the purge but it doesn't seem to be doing anything yet, if nothing happens for awhile I'll check back here.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:06, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Still nothing, the purge should have worked by now. Any other suggestions?--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:41, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I see the new one, its just because the image is in your cache. Try CTRL+F5, if not, just give it time. It is changed.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 21:49, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll have to take your word for it.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 22:07, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Which version is intended? I see that the version uploaded in December was reverted to the November version, which is the one that I see (November). Apteva (talk) 21:57, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It was reverted to revision dated 18:52, 11 December 2012 (my first attempt today) because when I tried uploading it again, thinking something was wrong, I saw it in the file history, but then it still didn't appear.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 22:01, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Funny I can see it at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Jack_the_Giant_Slayer.jpg?1 but not http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Jack_the_Giant_Slayer.jpg .--TriiipleThreat (talk) 22:04, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I see now that there are three versions. a) 00:31, 16 December 2011, b) 13:44, 21 November 2012, and c) 18:52, 11 December 2012. Which one is the correct one to use, a, b, or c? b is the one that is currently used. Apteva (talk) 03:38, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * C, the one dated 11 December 2012.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 07:07, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Nanny McPhee
I would like to know where I can get a copy of the music that was played during Evangeline's walk down the aisle, to be married to Mr. Brown? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.209.91.69 (talk) 20:26, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. RudolfRed (talk) 20:30, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

texas singer song writter russell t ivey
Singer/Songwriter/Guitarist brings you music about laughter, tears chocolate and beer. ... Singer/songwriter with over 50 original songs. ... Ivey, Russell T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.79.255.39 (talk) 21:16, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia?--ukexpat (talk) 21:54, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I suspect that you are suggesting or asking for an article about him. Provided he meets the notability requirements, there can be an article about him, which you could request at WP:Requested articles, or try and create by following the suggestions in WP:Your first article. If you are Russell Ivey or somebody closely connected with him, you should read WP:Conflict of interest first. --ColinFine (talk) 23:06, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Problem/Issue when searching Esophagus
To whom it may concern, When I googled Esophagus someone has put in the word "fuck you" under the title. I love wiki and I would hate for it to get a bad rep. Thanks Terri
 * Corrected at 11:40. Apteva (talk) 21:48, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * It takes a while before Google's Googlebot visits a page, detects changes and updates Google's index which is used to display the blurb on search results pages. It has been updated now. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:20, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Donating
Dear Wikipedia workers,

i want to donate a small amount of money to Wikipedia, because it is one of the best sites on the internet (the best site probably). I do not have paypall, and i don't own a credit card. I tried the other option, but i found out that this is not working for me. I wanted to pay via direct bank transfer, from a bank in belgium called "belfius" ( previously called dexia).

Please give any information on how i do this.

Greetings, Thijs  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.101.44.135 (talk) 21:34, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This page shows how to do a bank transfer for your donation: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give/en#Bank_transfer. If that doesn't work for you, contact donate@wikimedia.org for help.  RudolfRed (talk) 21:51, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Images
If an image is in use on another Wikipedia (specifically, the Breton version), is it safe to assume that it can be used on the English Wikipedia without violating copyright?WQUlrich (talk) 21:48, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, it isn't. Each version of Wikipedia can have its own rules about what is necessary to respect copyright law (so your question might have been "is it safe to assume that it can be used on the English Wikipedia without violating English Wikipedia's rules about respecting copyright?". However, if the image used on Breton Wikipedia is in fact on Wikimedia Commons, then it is safe to use it on English Wikipedia. You can find our whether it's on Commons by clicking on it. Maproom (talk) 23:31, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Proposing a move for article name
Is there a template that I can add to the top of an article about a proposed move of the name of the article, that will grab more eyes and bring attention to the proposal on the talk page, similar to the merge template on this article?  Fry1989  eh? 21:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * If you follow the process at WP:Requested moves those of us who follow such things will see it listed and comment.--ukexpat (talk) 21:56, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks!  Fry1989  eh?   22:11, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Personism
I have read with horror the entry on 'personism'. May I state for the record that there is no such a thing as an ethical or otherwise philosophy of 'personism', and that Peter Singer is certainly not its originator or exemplifies or typifies it (I should know, I just asked him). This basically is a hatchet job of Singer's views, and an uninformed one at that. I tried to delete the whole junk that's posted there, but that was of course impossible. Perhaps someone with the ability to delete this nonsense could deal with this. udo schuklenk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Udo schuklenk (talk • contribs) 23:03, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I was going to point you to Talk:Personism, but I see that you have already posted there, though without starting a new section or signing your comment, as here. (I have added section header here).
 * On the face of it, the article appears to be reasonably well referenced, so simply deleting the content will look like vandalism. Unreferenced content may be deleted, but for anything that is referenced to what appears to be a reliable source, you would need to challenge it, preferably on the Talk page. If some information is simply not supported by the source referenced, you could remove it, with an edit summary explaining why; but if you are challenging the reliability of the source, you should really discuss it on the talk page. If you think the source is biased, then you shouldn't remove the information, but may add other information derived from other published sources.
 * This may seem an odd position to take; but the problem is that on the internet we have no way of knowing whether you are who you claim, still less whether you know Peter Singer or anybody else. This is why the standard for Wikipedia is verifiability.
 * There is a procedure for deleting articles, which anybody may invoke; but the nomination must be based on one of the defined criteria: see WP:Deletion process. --ColinFine (talk) 23:17, 11 December 2012 (UTC)