Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 December 28

= December 28 =

Can registered user use Wikipedia for oppression?
At least 2 or 3 users of portuguese wikipedia are repressing a boycott that happens in Aracaju, by undoing and "protecting"(censuring) "IPs" from editing (telling the truth even with references) without even submit warning. Is it allowed, that behavior? --177.215.165.170 (talk) 00:29, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, this is English Wikipedia. We can't do anything about Portuguese Wikipedia.  If you're having a problem at Portuguese Wikipedia, you're going to have to raise it there.  -- Jayron  32  00:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for fast reply, I just want to know if this is accepted or not, solving isn't needed. --177.215.165.170 (talk) 00:37, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No-one is going to answer your question here about the rights and wrongs of whatever is happening on the Portuguese Wikipedia; this is the help desk for the English Wikipedia. BencherliteTalk 00:40, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

AfD for article that clearly meets WP:GNG
I've been on Wikipedia for 3 years or so. I'm not a newbie. But I've created an article, List of Start Menu replacements for Windows 8 which clearly and easily meets WP:GNG:
 * IT World - 9 Windows Start menus for Windows 8
 * Delaware Online - Windows 8 woes GetStart menu sub
 * TechNewsDaily - 3 Ways to Bring Back the Start Menu in Windows 8
 * PC World - Give Windows 8 the Start Menu It Deserves
 * PC Magazine - Tip: How to Get the Start Menu Back in Windows 8
 * USA Today - How to add a Start menu to Windows 8
 * ExtremeTech - How to bring back the Start menu and button to Windows 8
 * Laptop Magazine - 6 Ways to Totally Avoid Metro and Use Only Desktop Mode in Windows 8
 * Information Week - What Windows 8.1 Must Be
 * CNET - Will 'normal' Windows users want a Start button for Win 8?
 * CNET - How to get the Start menu back in Windows 8
 * CNET - Pokki Windows 8 Start menu grabs half a million downloads
 * PC World - Sorry, Microsoft: Users really want the Start menu back

Although the article clearly meats WP:GNG, it was nominated for deletion. Most of the complaints against it seem to be because the article is a stub. Yes, it is a work in progress but it can be expanded and improved through the normal editing process. I'm not sure how to respond to arguments that aren't a valid a reason for deletion. The original nominator for AfD has subsequently withdrawn their request yet the AfD remains open. Can someone please look over Articles for deletion/List of Start Menu replacements for Windows 8 and tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 00:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You've done nothing wrong, and there's nothing else you can do. An admin will be along at some point in the indefinite future to close the AFD and make a ruling on the consensus, either to delete the article or to keep it.  In the mean time, there's not much else.  -- Jayron  32  03:54, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Use of the prefix "Dr."
Is there any Wikipedia policy regarding the use of the prefix "Dr." before proper nouns? --PlanetEditor (talk) 03:16, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Naming_conventions_(people) says to avoid such titles and honorifics, except in very rare cases where the honorific is completely tied to the person (i.e. Mother Theresa). -- Jayron  32  03:20, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --PlanetEditor (talk) 03:30, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I was wondering about that myself, in regard to Infobox/person. For example, there is an Infobox parameter for honorific prefix; when I put "Dr." in there, it changes the Infobox title to "Dr. Hoozit".  However, it seems inappropriate to leave that parameter blank, if that person does indeed have an honorific title, even if it is not most commonly used. Should I remove the "Dr." in such cases?  (e.g.: Gladys Tantaquidgeon) ~E : 74.60.29.141 (talk) 03:40, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Going off what Jayron32, said and my own reading of the pages Jayron linked it would seem that the answer is Yes! In my experience though, this guideline is very often not followed. Some editors seem to absolutely insist on honorifics. - 220  of  Borg 03:51, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Side query, If Dr. shouldn't be used, what about Indian royal tiles such as Maharaja and Sri? I have edited a few Indian royal bios recently and they were full of over-use of such titles. ie Ganga Singh starts "His Highness General Maharaja Sir Ganga Singh" (all titles linked!), and here's a 'Dr.' Karan Singh Yadav. My reading of the guidelines is that all the titles should likely be removed. - 220  of  Borg 03:51, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Pizza tamil movie
Hi, we are the producers of pizza movie telugu version. We request you to remove the story ,Since its a suspense thriller. You can partly reveal the plot but not completely. Please do the needful.

Thanking you. Samanya reddy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.221.212.88 (talk) 05:16, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The Wikipedia community have discussed this issue over the years, and the consensus here is that "spoilers" are no different from any other encyclopedic content, and will not be deleted solely because they are spoilers. You can read about this at Spoiler. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:32, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * The Telugu Wikipedia may have a different policy or consensus about this but we cannot help you with that, this is the Help Desk for the English Wikipedia only. Roger (talk) 14:28, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * This is referring to Pizza (2012 film), although there is no reference to Telugu in the article. I am assuming, then, that Dodger is correct about this being a request for Telugu Wikipedia.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:15, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Article with Α (Alpha) rather than A (Latin)
The article Α2-HS-glycoprotein starts with an Alpha, not an A. I know that there are rules against having usernames with characters that look like Latin Letters, but I'm not sure what to do in the case of an article.Naraht (talk) 05:19, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Moved it to A2-HS-glycoprotein, leaving a redirect behind. If someone thinks it's incorrect to have the article name in a place where people can actually type the name, I'd like to hear the argument as to why.&mdash;Kww(talk) 06:30, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I think the article is mis-titled. I looked at all 9 references. They refer to the compound as:
 * alpha-2HS-glycoprotein
 * Alpha2-HS glycoprotein
 * alpha-2-HS-glycoprotein (primary source)
 * alpha-2-Heremans Schmid-glycoprotein
 * fetuin-A
 * alpha2HS-glycoprotein
 * AHSG
 * So, it seems, "alpha" is always spelled out with the exception of the acronym AHSG. In that case, it seems perfectly reasonable to use the latin "A", since it's an abbreviation of the English transliteration of the Greek letter ("alpha"), not meant to represent the Greek letter directly (and that letter would be a lower-case "α" by normal naming conventions, and as shown in all but one reference, anyway).
 * Ref 3 points to the US NIH, which says the official name from HGNC is "alpha-2-HS-glycoprotein" and symbol is "AHSG". I would suggest the article be named that way, with redirects from the other ones as needed. I don't think redirects beginning with the Greek "α" or "Α" are needed. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 07:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This all seems well and good; but a discussion over at WP:WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology might yield better results. This Help desk is for more simple-minded help related to WP editing in general. ;) ~E : 74.60.29.141 (talk) 20:34, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Alan's suggestion seemed reasonable enough for me to act on. The article is now at Alpha-2-HS-glycoprotein and lowercase. But is lowercase right? Biosthmors (talk) 22:10, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If not please remove the lowercase template. I won't be watching the conversation here. Biosthmors (talk) 22:11, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Regarding Kww's initial comment: see the arguments put forward by the people who advocate – instead of - in article titles, because they say that it's incorrect to have article names in places where people can actually type the names. Nyttend (talk) 02:09, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I see nothing in this section regarding an endash vs. hyphen debate on this (or any other) chemical/biological name article. For the record, I saw no endashes in the sources. The article seems named exactly correctly. I created redirects from:
 * Alpha-2HS-glycoprotein
 * Alpha2-HS glycoprotein
 * alpha-2-Heremans Schmid-glycoprotein
 * alpha2HS-glycoprotein
 * —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 03:14, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Please help with email
Hey friends. I want to send e-mails to other users, however, I don't think it is working probably. What do I have to write as my e-mail adress? Thanks, (Help desk talkback please)  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 08:48, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Good question. You asked what you've to write as your e-mail address. Okay now when you start to write an e-mail to another user

at first you'll see Then message.
 * From:X
 * To:Y
 * Subject:ABC

But over the emailing side there's said Please note. Note that and see what's written in the last line.

It's said  Your email address WILL be disclosed to the recipient 

So you don't need to write your email address. Your email address will be disclosed to the recipient. Good Luck and Have a good day.-- Pr aty ya  (have a chat?) 09:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that; but where it says "*From:X" and "TO:Y" -- do I write the username, not the e-mail adress? Also, can I remove the "X" and the "Y" if it is there?  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 09:16, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ha Ha Ha. The X said by me is an unknown word. I don't know whom you are trying to send e-mail. That's why I wrote X. And the Y is same as X. But if the sender is you then It'll be Curtaintoad. But you don't need to write them.It is written automatically when you write an e-mail. Cheers.-- Pr aty ya  (have a chat?) 09:23, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello CurtainToad, are you looking for help with the general process of sending an e-mail, or are you trying to send an e-mail to another Wikipedia editor?  Salvidrim!   09:27, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * If it is about on-wiki e-mail communications, when you navigate to Special:EmailUser/Salvidrim, for example, the "From:" line should already indicate your username and the "To:" line should already indicate my username. All you have to do is to write down the subject and content of your message and click send. Try it now, I'll let you know if I received it properly! :)  Salvidrim!   09:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Are you sure that you've got e-mail enabled in your Wikipedia preferences? If you have, the From and To fields should be filled in automatically with the relevant usernames when you click on the "Email this user" link for another user who has e-mail enabled, and you don't have the option to change the content of those fields. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:34, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll try! Thanks! ;)  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 09:36, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It has not been authenticated yet, though. :/  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 10:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you please help me more with this? Thanks,  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 10:38, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Is your email address listed in your preferences?
 * Have you ticked the box "Enable e-mail from other users" just underneath the email address?
 * What message do you see if you visit Special:ConfirmEmail? -- John of Reading (talk) 10:42, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

It is a massive problem!  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 10:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Is my address really curtaintoadonwikipedia@gmail.com (do I need ".au" at the end?)
 * When I see Special:ConfirmEmail, I'm pretty the message says "You must be logged in and have a valid authenticated e-mail address in your preferences to send e-mail to other users."
 * I am actually getting a little bit confused. :/  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 11:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * At this page, do you see the message


 * Your e-mail address was authenticated on xxxx-xx-xx at xx:xx:xx?


 * If not, what message is being shown? --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  11:04, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does not offer email accounts. You must have an email account from somewhere else in order to send emails via Wikipedia. The address of that account must be saved at Special:Preferences. You should know what your email address is. We don't know. Special:EmailUser/Curtaintoad currently says "This user has not specified a valid e-mail address." PrimeHunter (talk) 11:43, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay there're many answers. Now I want to say that Go straight to your preference.Go down. At last of the preference you'll see E-mail options.

Under this,

E-mail (optional)* your e-mail address.Beside this there's a link named (Change your e-mail address) under this, * You do not have to provide an e-mail address, but if you forget your password, you will not be able to regain access to your account without one. You can provide an e-mail address later on, or change it. If you change your e-mail address, you will need to reconfirm it. You also need to provide an e-mail address if you wish to enable the "E-mail this User" feature to either send or receive emails via Wikipedia. Your e-mail address is not revealed when other users contact you.

written there.Then under this


 * E-mail confirmation: Your e-mail- a date when your e-mail authenticated.
 * Enable e-mail from other users
 * Send me copies of e-mails I send to other users
 * E-mail me when a page or file on my watchlist is changed
 * E-mail me when my user talk page is changed

you must enable the  Enable e-mail from other users  The other 3 depends on your choice.

After that hit the save button.

Then an e-mail will be sent to you with a confirmation link. Then clink the confirmation code and the e-mail address will be enabled. For more help see Help:Email confirmation and Emailing users. And if you want to change your e-mail address then click this button in your preference (Change your e-mail address). Cheers.-- Pr aty ya  (have a chat?) 12:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Hatnotes
Should Hatnote's be placed under or over tags? XapApp (talk) 13:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The very first paragraph of the page you linked to sums it up quite nicely: "Hatnotes are placed at the very top of the article, before any other items such as images, navigational templates and maintenance templates (like the "cleanup", "unreferenced", and "POV" templates)." ;)  Salvidrim!   13:09, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Styles on user pages
How to I put styles on my user page? For example, User:Mediran, etc. --FrankDev (talk) 13:11, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

It would be better to ask User:Mediran. But for your help I'll give you some suggestion. Because I myself was inspired by Mediran's userpage. It's all about your choice. But I want to ask you what do you need to know specifically. Because an user page contains many things. Please answer this.-- Pr aty ya  (have a chat?) 13:18, 28 December 2012 (UTC) No. You have to design and make your user page manually.-- Pr aty ya  (have a chat?) 13:28, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there a template for doing it? --FrankDev (talk) 13:20, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thank you! --FrankDev (talk) 15:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

removal of content from "" Chennai International Film Festival" page
Dear Sir

I had filled in data in references of the "" Chennai International Film Festival" but it has been removed. I do not know why. All the data is in the public domain. No malicious content has been put in by me. All data is relevant to the page Chennai International Film Festival Please advise--- Nakeeran1010 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nakeeran1010 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This is an encyclopedia, not an accumulation of links to external articles. What you did was flood the article with a massive deluge of useless and excessive links to articles in other places. Take a look at how the articles about other film festivals such as Sundance Film Festival are structured, for how it should have looked. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  14:46, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Blatant spam
I just removed a few external links from evacuation and emergency related articles. I left a few that should have been removed. The related wikiproject talk page hasn't seen much use lately. Would someone like to look at the links I left and judge which if any should remain?--Canoe1967 (talk) 15:28, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you make it easier for everyone to help and provide links to the specific articles that you're talking about? Dismas |(talk) 17:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I assume they are:
 * and .--ukexpat (talk) 17:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ooops! Yes, those are the 2 articles. It seems I wasn't thinking when I posted earlier.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:11, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Olivia Williams help request
Can someone please read the first paragraph regarding the actress Olivia Williams as it contains a derogatory remark and the word N*G**R — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.208.4 (talk) 17:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ This vandalism was removed almost immediately, but thank you for bringing it up for attention.   78.26   (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:58, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Article not in search
Hello! I have already made an article on Roberto Facondo but when i do a search it want appear on the list, why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.48.194 (talk) 19:34, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to the page User:Roberto.facondo? That's a user page and not an article. It appears if you click "Everything" after searching. User pages are not searched by default. If you are considering to make an article about yourself then see Autobiography, and Roberto Facondo doesn't appear to satisfy Notability (music). PrimeHunter (talk) 19:48, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Interlanguage links for WikiProjects
Hi, I have recently started manually adding in interlanguage links to WikiProject pages like this. I remember when bots started taking over the job of WP:WPIW, and I tend to rely on them completely, so the fact that these inter-language links seem to require manual editing makes me wonder whether what I'm doing is OK by Wikipedia's rules. Maybe this is more unstable of a practice since the WikiProject structure is sometimes quite different at different Wikipedias. But are there any prohibitions (or guideline discouragements) against IL-linking to other WikiProjects? -Thibbs (talk) 20:34, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * The only problem is that you added the links outside noinclude tags so the links were also displayed in pages using the template. I have fixed it. Interlanguage bots don't work completely on their own. At first an editor adds an interlanguage link at some language and then bots copy it to the other languages. See more at Help:Interlanguage links. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * OK good to know. Thanks. -Thibbs (talk) 13:45, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Guss Carr
Wikipedia does not have page on Gus Carr. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.139.62.114 (talk) 21:25, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You can make one by clicking on this redlink -->Gus Carr and writing some words in the white box. Then remember to click "save". :) -Thibbs (talk) 21:30, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * There's a bit more to it than that! These "find sources" links suggest that Carr hasn't attracted enough independent media coverage yet in reliable sources to support a Wikipedia article. There's more on this at WP:BIO and WP:NACTOR. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * There's a bit more to it than that! These "find sources" links suggest that Carr hasn't attracted enough independent media coverage yet in reliable sources to support a Wikipedia article. There's more on this at WP:BIO and WP:NACTOR. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)