Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 December 5

= December 5 =

WWE 13
I left an section on issues with WWE 13. why was it removed? The issues stated are verified issues from multiple source and from playing with the game. These glaring technical issues should be disclosed to the public, so people aren't being ripped off by a company that clearly engaged in fraudulent behavior.

Issues

The game is plagued with a number of game breaking issues. A patch was issued in November which did not fix the issue. THQ has been silent as to when a new patch will be available. As the games stands now it is unplayable, and it was falsely advertised. Most of the new features that THQ stated would be in the game does not work. Universe 3.0 does not work. The creation system that allows for custom tag teams and stables does not work, as the game will reset the stables back to default. Also please not that many have stated that the game will actually erase save data and will freeze prompting an manual reset. By doing this you run the risk of "bricking" your system. The custom belt editor does not work as belts do scale properly to created wrestlers, not to mention the games loses audio and the commentary and ring announcer cannot properly identify who is who and the will state that every wrestler is in a stable called the agents. THQ will not issues refunds so they have effectively stolen money from their consumers, engaged in consumer fraud, and they have engaged in false advertisement to bolster the sales of this very technically flawed product. No attempt has been made to rectify the new and legacy issues with this product. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.185.126 (talk) 00:22, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Wikipedia works by proof, rather than truth. You need to use citations (proof) for your statement you wish to add. Preferably from reliable, authorative sources and be written neutrally.
 * Try looking at a controversial topic for examples. Thanks and good luck ツ Je no va  20  (email) 00:36, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Problem editing Prinair Flight 191
I'm not sure what I did to cause this. I duplicated the procedure for editing the link to the first NTSB Report when trying to fix a dead link for the second NTSB Report. I've fixed quite a few bad links to NTSB Accident Reports with no problems. I tried to copy and past the error message but that didn't work. I wrote it down so I can give it to someone.

68.6.39.66 (talk) 00:52, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * In you removed   after the reference. I have fixed it. Each starting   must be accompanied by an ending  . Otherwise the software thinks the following text is part of the reference. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:38, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

military
i am trying to find illustrations of regimental cap badges british army where can i search — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.174.187 (talk) 00:58, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Cap badge might interest you. The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 06:32, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Indigo etc
I am a user of pages in general ur pretty good but I am concerned about a few things. Writing that are value laden or hypocritical ie one sided arguments. Eg indigo section is very rude. I wanted a quick answer to what this indigo people represent and expected facts not bullying. This is not ok. Please take out ur subjectivity before its too late. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.241.175 (talk) 01:30, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to the article Indigo? It's mainly about the color but mentions people in Indigo. Or maybe you mean Indigo children or something else at Indigo (disambiguation)? PrimeHunter (talk) 03:31, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is very concerned that articles be neutral in tone. If you find an article that you think does not match this policy, the best thing to do is to open a discussion on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 11:26, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe the poster is one of those who feels that we should simply report the claims made about indigo children, without mentioning the fact that this is a pseudo-scientific fringe theory with no evidence to back it up, because that's rude. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  13:33, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * OP, if you want to find out what spiritual people believe, don't use Wikipedia. Try the rest of the internet. - filelake shoe  &#xF0F6;   13:42, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

About awarding barnstars
I am an auto confirmed user and have almost 1000 edits but feeling shy to say that I am almost zero in the knowledge of awarding barnstars. Can anyone describe me why,how a barnstar is awarded and who can award it?--pratyya (talk) 06:30, 5 December 2012 (UTC)




 * I will try to summarize:


 * A barnstar is given "to reward Wikipedia contributors for hard work and due diligence" (according to WP:Barnstar)
 * Go to a user's user page or talk page and click the red "heart" button at the top for a list of barnstars and other awards.
 * Anyone can award them.


 * If you feel that someone has done well in a particular area (editing, vandalism, photos, citations/references, etc.), don't be afraid to give them one! The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 06:39, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I assume that the red "heart" button of which you speak is another feature dependent on a user's preference settings? I don't see such a button. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:03, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes. See the documentation at mw:WikiLove. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:28, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Status Template
Hello. I'm trying out a new status template-, and I've added the required code from the documentation page, as well as purging and bypassing the cache. However, it does not seem to be working. The script is supposedly buggy, but I want a quick check before I give up. My .js page is at User:Thekillerpenguin/vector.js. Could someone do a quick check to see if I put the code in right? Thanks. Thekillerpenguin    (talk)   06:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I think I fixed it – check it out! The status subpage is supposed to hold a string like "online" and the template is supposed to be located on your user page. The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 07:16, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow! It seems to work! I can't thank you enough. You deserve some cookies.  Thekillerpenguin     (talk)   23:29, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, it seems that the auto-update links do not work, but I'm fine with just manually pasting in the text.  Thekillerpenguin     (talk)   23:32, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The script probably is not working anymore as it has not been edited since 2008. After all, the template says "Due to the bugginess of Henrik's automod script the auto update links may not work for long periods of time, if you know of a way to fix this issue it'd be most appreciated." Instead, I recommend that you install Qui. The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 00:47, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I used to have exactly the same status template as Thekillerpenguin, and the script just doesn't work. I agree that either Qui or doing it manually is better. - a boat   that can float!   (watch me float)  04:28, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Website related article
Does wikipedia accept website as an article like this?--pratyya (talk) 08:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, but only if the notability of the website is established by means of independent third party references. You can read the notability standards for websites here: Notability (web). -- Anbu121 ( talk me ) 09:22, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

everything looks distorted
hello there! i logged in on monday morning to find that my editing toolbar is completely distorted. all the links are all over the place and it is very hard for me to continue editing in this manner. i use google chrome and i've tried to disable some of the tools i had activated months ago in my preferences, however i can't seem to get around it. has this happened to anyone before? i appreciate your help. i just want to keep working as i used to... FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 16:15, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * just saw the previous post! silly of me. thanks anyway! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 16:18, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Link to "Top"
Is there some way to link to 'Top' of a talk page? Since Skip to the bottom works, I hoped Top Top might also — but it doesn't. ~Thanks (again), ~Eric F 74.60.29.141 (talk) 16:42, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Try  → Top of page The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 16:45, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks, ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 16:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Life expectancy images
Please help, these two maps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Male_Life_Expectancy.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Female_Life_Expectancy.png

Use a color scheme that is VERY unfriendly to colorblind people. Could someone please use a non red-green color spectrum? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.241.46 (talk) 16:47, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I could probably make the change myself, but I don't know what colour spectrum to use. I once altered the colours used on a site of my own, to make them more colour-blind friendly, following advice from a web site which claimed to specialise in this. Then a red-green colour-blind friend told me that I had made them slightly worse for him. Maproom (talk) 18:21, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I could not say about your web site as I do not know which colorblindness your friend has. Stick with a red-blue spectrum when in doubt. For these maps even greyscale would be easier to interpret actually. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.241.46 (talk) 19:25, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Or you could use any single color (from light to dark of that one color) now that I think about it. That would also eliminate any confusion! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.241.46 (talk) 19:28, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I have changed the male map from a red-green to a red-blue spectrum. Please let me know what you think. (To me, with normal colour vision, the new image is slightly less pleasing aesthetically, but perfectly easy to understand.) If you like what I've done, and no-one objects, I'll make the same change to the female map. Maproom (talk) 11:22, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

That looks great and is very easy to interpret now. Thank you so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.241.46 (talk) 08:25, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Good − I've now done the same for the female map. Maproom (talk) 15:35, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Also if you are interested in a tip: a good rule of thumb is to desaturate graphs, charts, and maps to see if they are colorblind friendly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.241.46 (talk) 08:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * See WP:COLOR for various tools that analyse colour schemes for readability and also take into consideration most of the common colour blindness problems. Roger (talk) 10:07, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

World Extreme Skiing Championship
I'm trying to post and provide links to verify facts about the http://worldextremeskiingchampionships.com/ and the http://www.worldextremesnowboardingchampionships.com/index.html with facts. A user named Bonadea is deleteing the material and links that provide real history. why would Bonadea be permited to delete materials that verify what was put on wiki. One person view of history should not be permited when facts are provided. wiki is great when real history and facts are provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelcozad (talk • contribs) 17:01, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * He has as much right to delete the material as you have to add it. He has given his reason for deleting it, in his edit summary: he considers the material you have added to be "unsourced, promotional, unencyclopedic." I tend to agree. I suggest you rewrite the material you want to add, to make it less promotional. Maproom (talk) 18:16, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to read Wikipedia's guidelines on conflict of interest. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:50, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Gadget problem related to UI
This problem started when the UI got messsed up this week. I've been unable to fix the gadget problem. I use the latest version of Firefox.

This is the gadget: "Add page and user options to drop-down menus on the toolbar." I use Vector. The first symptom was the words "Page" and "User" showed only halfway. Subsequently - and still now - the words don't show up at all. All I have are the down arrows. I tried unchecking the gadget. I cleared my cache, closed Firefox, reopened Firefox, and rechecked the gadget. The problem hasn't gone away.

If I should be posting this at the Pump, please let me know. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I was just reporting this. User talk:Haza-w/Drop-down menus --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 20:38, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Ed, I didn't even know that page existed. I've put it on my watchlist.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:02, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Article Review Request
Since the article review process appears to be redirecting to here right now, I am posting this request here. If this is the wrong place, please tell me so I know for later. I would like feedback on User:Rarkenin/Minetest, if that is possible. Especially, I am concerned that the sources are not fully proper for Wikipedia, as well as whether software's source code can be used as a Wikipedia source. Thanks! Rarkenin (talk) 21:12, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The biggest problem I see with this article is that it seems to lack notability. There are references, but nothing that establish that this program is of any significance. Tiggerjay (talk) 21:19, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I noticed that it has been mentioned on List of open source video games and List of OpenGL programs. Is it not supposed to be there, or does that make it notable for Wikipedia? Or is it an in-between where it should be listed but not described? 23:28, 6 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rarkenin (talk • contribs)
 * The editors of that specific list could probably better establish if it should be included on the list; but in general, just because it is mentioned in a list doesn't mean that it should have its own article. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:15, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Chimney sweep -categorisation help and advice.
Hi, a number of fairly experienced editors have contributed to Chimney sweep which features the World's first recognised occupational disease and first legislation against child labour, either of which should make it a high importance article. Unbelievably it's languishing as a low importance household item yet we can't find anywhere to classify it -or to get the expert attention it deserves. It might need to be merged with Chimney sweeps' carcinoma and it needs more sources but it is a potential featured article. Please advise -and thanks in eager anticipation! JRPG (talk) 21:34, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The importance category is designated by members of the related wikiproject. If you head over to the project talk page, they can help you out there. Each project has specific criteria for what indicates specific importance. Tiggerjay (talk) 21:44, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Will try there thanks. JRPG (talk) 22:14, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Display a user's contributions
This is more a question about MediaWiki in general: Is there a magic word or similar which can display the number of contributions by any user that is entered as plain text? Thanks alot Xtreme2000 (talk) 21:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Please direct your question to the MediaWiki support page Tiggerjay (talk) 22:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)