Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 February 14

= February 14 =

Kathleen Adams
Kathleen Adams is gia carangi's mother and i would appreciate it so much if you could create a page about her her. im sorry to bother you but im 16 years of age and since watch the film i can help but think about the affect it had on the world and the parent. im litterly loosing sleep about it. i would just love to have answers.

kind regards yolanta collins — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.204.96 (talk) 01:21, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Convenience link. Nyttend (talk) 02:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Relationships do not confer notability. I'm afraid simply being the mother of someone notable does not entitle someone a separate article.-- O BSIDIAN  †  S OUL  02:17, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Facebook pages created by Wikipedia
I work for a business/school that would like to start using social media (facebook) and I noticed that our school name page is already created and it appears to be from you.

I am not sure who created this and I didn't know if I needed to create a brand new account or since yours was already established and already has some fans if we could just use yours. Not sure what we need to do.

I can go in more dept with the name of the school and how to contact me if that would be helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.216.17.28 (talk) 01:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center.-- O BSIDIAN  †  S OUL  02:10, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

AfD Removal
I started an AfD (Articles for deletion/Joey Curtis (2nd nomination)) and am now convinced that the subject is notable. So far there's only been 1 comment--a Keep. Can this AfD be removed? Thanks. Papaursa (talk) 02:42, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Just post Withdrawn by nom & Speedy close - No outstanding deletion votes, notability established. Dru of Id (talk) 03:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have closed the AfD as nomination withdrawn. Best, Alpha_Quadrant    (talk)  03:13, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Error on Leland, Iowa page
Sorry, I am pressed for time.

On: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland,_Iowa

The median income is reported as $8 million...  and the average income for men is similarly out of whack.

You may want to fix it--it is the hometown of Iowa's Governor!

Charles Kick Honiara, Solomon Islands — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.1.164.211 (talk) 03:18, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed it. Thanks.  RudolfRed (talk) 04:30, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Trevor Treharne
Can you please deleate the information "awards" information in a profile done about me please? None of it is true! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.193.203.34 (talk) 05:55, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Please provide us with the title of the article. The topologist (talk) 07:50, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Presumably . -- John of Reading (talk) 08:25, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Add a new section to the Contents List
I would like to add South Africa to the History section in the Contents box on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_the_Third_Age. Obviously there would then be supporting text in the body of the document. How do I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.177.27.232 (talk) 07:44, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The table of contents is automatically generated from the headings and sub-headings in the page. Just edit the page and add a new sub-heading,  on a line by itself like the others. For more detail see Help:Section. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:21, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The table of contents is automatically generated from the headings and sub-headings in the page. Just edit the page and add a new sub-heading,  on a line by itself like the others. For more detail see Help:Section. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:21, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Glitch?
Theres a template in this section called "Hadith collections two". However when you click on the template it redirects to a different template called "Hadith collections". Is this some sort of glitch? Pass a Method  talk  09:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed. The name parameter is used to create the edit/view/discuss links. jonkerz ♠talk 10:00, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Not fixed. It seems like it was more complicated than I expected. I'll look into it. jonkerz ♠talk 10:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * There really is a bug.  is used for two different things by different templates.  sends the parameter to  which uses it to display: 1. the edit/view links via  and 2. the template's title via its own code.
 * In my first fix the links works, but the title is displayed as Hadith collections two. When I restored the name parameter, the links does not work, but the title looks like it should.
 * The problem is that uses the name parameter to display the title. The name parameter should only be used for the template's name. jonkerz ♠talk 10:28, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've created a new thread about this issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates. jonkerz ♠talk 10:44, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Translation Problem
There is an article in German (Wallhausen (bei Bad Kreuznach)) that I would like to read. When I attempt to read it in English, the article disappears. How can I see the full text of the article in English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pfreisem (talk • contribs) 09:58, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't disappear, the article is just shorter on the English Wikipedia. Translation has to be done by hand, so there is no quick way of reading German articles in English unless you use online translators such as Google Translate. Here are links to both versions: Wallhausen, Rhineland-Palatinate and de:Wallhausen (bei Bad Kreuznach). jonkerz ♠talk 10:05, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Keith Haring Infobox
I was on the page of Keith_Haring and aparantly there is something wrong with the infobox. Unfortunately I have no experience with them, so I don't know how to fix it. :-s Help?--Dianafl (talk) 13:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I have the vandalism.  Thank you for pointing it out. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:02, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep. Thanks! Facinatingpsychology (talk) 14:38, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Cool. Good to know it was something easy to fix.--Dianafl (talk) 14:38, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Untitled section about MRSA
Mrsa site (methacillin resistant stapholoccus) has copious information. I don't know how to search this (or I guess any) site for a particular word (in this case the word "bath). I expected my question to be an FAQ but I was wrong. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.253.214.66 (talk) 14:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you want to find all occurrences of the word "bath" on the page Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus? If you are using Internet Explorer or Firefox, you can do this by pressing the control key (Ctrl) and F, then type "bath". jonkerz ♠talk 14:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Araldite English reverting
I uploaded a significant amount of new content to the English Araldite page last week, including following formatting rules and referencing. I also edited the French version. The French and English are exactly the same but the English appears to have reverted back to its old version. Can I please have some advice on what I am doing wrong as I followed all the rules. If possible, can I get a Wikipedia administrator to upload my text?Allaboutglue (talk) 14:26, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The advice is on your talk page, and (from the last time you asked the question) at Help desk/Archives/2012 February 9. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:33, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Kudos for excellent work and standing your ground
I use wikipedea as the Encyclopedia Britannica of the Internet. I have sent a donation and want you to know that what you do does matter and is deeply appreciated. Thank you. No response is needed. Do let all know that we, the public, are very appreciative of your work and ethics.

Sincerely,

jhburch — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhburch2 (talk • contribs) 16:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Debating notability
Hello! I'm a little confused about why my article was declined for being non-notable. After reading the Guidelines on Notability, it seems like there is no reason for my topic (Diva Communications) to be declared non-notable. There are many articles about similar NYC documentary filmmakers/companies in the same category with far fewer citations and references (e.g. Kino International, CinemaGuild). Diva has been around since 1985 and has made 14 films. Also, there is a Wikipedia page on one of their films (Yearning to Belong) that I link to. How can a page about a film have been deemed acceptable, but a page about the company who made that film not be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajassistant (talk • contribs) 16:26, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I notice you have recently completely rewritten your draft article. It appears to me to be much improved and worthy of another look.  Take a look at the history tab and find the people who previously reviewed it.  I think it would be reasonable to invite them to review it again.  Astronaut (talk) 16:38, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * But the answer to your last question is, very easily. If several reliable organs have written about the film, but for one reason or another had said nothing substantial about the company, then the film would be notable but the company would not be. --ColinFine (talk) 23:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikilinking as COI?
I've been asked (away from Keyboard) whether organized wikilinking your own organization is COI. This person is an advisor to an honor society and would like to go through all of the colleges and universities that *already list* the honor society and link it to the *existing* page for the honor society. Do they need to try to link all of the other listed honor societies in order for it to be acceptable? (My thought is no, but I'd like other opinions)Naraht (talk) 16:56, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd say that if you're wikilinking your own organization and not the "competition" that yes, it's a very petty form of COI editing (and just plain petty, besides). -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * If they are in an article for an engineering college and all of these engineering honor societies are listed but not linked:


 * Chi Epsilon
 * Eta Kappa Nu
 * Omega Chi Epsilon
 * Phi Alpha Epsilon
 * Pi Tau Sigma
 * Tau Beta Pi
 * Say he works for Omega Chi Epsilon, it would be best if he linked all of those engineering honor societies not just Omega Chi Epsilon. It doesn't take much more time and it would improve the article.  GB fan 18:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The person is an advisor to the only honor society I can find in that field, so other honor societies are not viewed as competition. But I'll see if I can get him to keep the list of other Honor Societies in another windows so he'll know what to add.Naraht (talk) 19:55, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Although we do appreciate anything which improves the encyclopedia, it is always best if to ensure that everything you do is for the purpose of building an encyclopedia. Remember that Wikipedia articles will be written from a neutral point of view, so anything that you link to should not be written promotionally. I'm sure that this is not your intention, but do just remember that you cannot rely on Wikipedia for advertising. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 20:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm a more experienced editor than he is (he's just getting started), but (at least for now), he doesn't intend to add anything other than the brackets to wikilink the group to the already created page.Naraht (talk) 21:48, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd say that Wikilinking always improves Wikipedia (unless it's overlinking, of course). --ColinFine (talk) 23:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * For tasks such as fixing orphaned articles it's considered normal to search Wikipedia for every (relevant) occurrence of a phrase and wikilink them all; there is even a tool provided to do this. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:48, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

POSTING A DRAFT OF AN ARTICLE
What is the URL I use to post a draft article. I can find plenty of instructions about rules and regulations, but I don't see the link I should use to actually post something. THANKS 18:02, 14 February 2012 (UTC)General1234 (talk) General1234


 * You can start at Article wizard. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Or you can work on your draft in a subpage of your user space at User:General1234/Your article title. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

THANK YOU — Preceding unsigned comment added by General1234 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Misspelled and apparently uneditable (by me) Category heading
As reflected in more than one article name under it, "Category:Latter Day Saint movement in Texas" should be "Category:Latter-day Saint movement in Texas", for the simplest correction.

Arguably, "Category:Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Texas" would be even better, and what I would bet church members would prefer. (I'm a Catholic living in Utah.) The latter change would mean removing the YFZ Ranch article, to which the heading would then clearly not apply. To my mind, "movement" is a truly strange word in this heading, and adds unnecessary ambiguity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeTSLC (talk • contribs) 19:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * (Sorry about invoking the autosign above.) I've now seen Latter Day Saint movement and have the same concern there. Is there really consensus for referring to the subject w/ that spelling and capping? If so, of course it should stand! IF not, it's just rude.


 * Thx! GeorgeTSLC (talk) 19:51, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The place to discuss this is at Talk:Latter Day Saint movement. -- Jayron  32  19:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * That is correct, of course. And I should have moved myself there right after my second statement above. GeorgeTSLC (talk) 21:24, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, it would be at WP:MOSLDS--my thanks to Naraht's reply below! And given that the choice (among others) is described there as the "broad consensus of contributors to WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement", my concern is answered. GeorgeTSLC (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:58, 15 February 2012 (UTC).


 * As an explanation to those who are clueless, yes, the difference between Latter-day Saint(hyphen and lower case d) and Latter Day Saint (no hyphen and upper case D) is significant. See WP:LDS for a an explanation.Naraht (talk) 20:01, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for answering me, Naraht, but there is in fact no explanation on that page, nor on its Talk page. Perhaps there is one somewhere else that you could guide me to? Perhaps in one of the many, links from those pages? Unfortunately, the obvious one, Naming conventions (Latter Day Saints) offers no explanation either! GeorgeTSLC (talk) 21:24, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I meant to do WP:MOSLDS. In short, Latter Day Saints refers to pretty much anyone who follows any of the groups who believed/believes that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God and Latter-day Saints refers specifically to the members of the largest of the sects of the Latter Day Saint movement (the one based in Salt Lake City that Mitt Romney is a member of).

multiple unsourced chart rankings for ZX Spectrum games
An IP editor is adding infoboxes to dozens of old computer games - as can be seen here - but none of them are sourced. Don't get me wrong - this is all good faith stuff, but shouldn't it be sourced, and is it even appropriate that some of the infobox additions are on non-ZX specific pages - such as the addition made to Elite. Chaheel Riens (talk) 20:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I notice you mentioned it on the IP's talk page, which is the best first step you can take. It seems like the editor is acting in good faith, so that should be enough. If it isn't, there are steps you can follow, outlined at WP:DE, but it shouldn't get to that. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 21:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Joseph Fischoff
Could I get someone to switch the article above with the redirect page Joseph Fischhof. It looks like Fischhof may be the preferred spelling. Thanks. Pkeets (talk) 20:18, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ – ukexpat (talk) 20:30, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

National varieties question
I am attempting to give a good, thorough copy edit to Zhejiang. However, the article has inconsistent national varieties. The earliest versions of the article have American spellings and no British spellings. Some of these original American spellings survive. Later, British spellings begin to appear. It isn't clear to me at what point in its history the article ceased to be a stub. How do I establish a consistent style for this article? Thanks. Marco polo (talk) 20:57, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I think WP:ENGVAR has some guidance on the subject. Basically, "within a given article the conventions of one particular variety should be followed consistently" -so we just need to pick one and stick to it. TN X Man  21:00, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * When there is an obvious reason to use one variation over another, that should be used (for example, an article on a British band should use British English). That doesn't seem to be the case here so, strictly speaking, you should use whatever was first used; in truth, provided the English is consistent across the article, you should be ok (the guidelines are in place in case there is a dispute, which there isn't in this case). ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 21:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Question about language translation
Hi... Do you currently have Dari (Farsi) or Pashto translations of Wikipedia underway? I would like to get some of my Afghan friends involved with this project, if possible.

Best, Kim

Kayjaestinson (talk) 22:18, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * You can find all Wikipedias at List of Wikipedias. The Farsi (Persian) Wikipedia is located at http://fa.wikipedia.org and the Pasto Wikipedia is located at http://ps.wikipedia.org  Good luck!  -- Jayron  32  22:36, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know if those Wikipedias have organised translation efforts such as the one we have here for translating from other languages to English. You might have to ask on their help pages. We do have some guidance on how to go about translating English articles to other languages. Roger (talk) 06:46, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Adding a page of guidelines
I want to add a page of guidelines to WikiProject Biography/Politics and government/United States. The page is now sitting at User:GeorgeLouis/Sandbox. How would I go about doing that? Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:46, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This may or may not help. I posted here hoping someone would answer. Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:35, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Moving and re-title
How do I move an essay or maybe the question should be How do I retitle an essay. My guess would be to creat the new page and the copy-paste the essay. Right? ```Buster Seven   Talk  23:00, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Without asking what page or anything, I'm going to ask: is there a move button? (Copy and pasting is generally a bad choice for any renaming, since it fails to provide attribution.) - Purplewowies (talk) 23:05, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps WEaPOn? - David Biddulph (talk) 23:08, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes...WEaPOn...and there IS a move button

Buster Seven   Talk  23:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Then you'll want to use the move button if you need to move it. - Purplewowies (talk) 23:15, 14 February 2012 (UTC)