Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 February 24

= February 24 =

User Fastily/E deleted my article and suggests in his user page that Help Desk can help to review re-submitted articles
I have resubmitted the article as Income Tax Filing Deadlines in Singapore. Can someone please review the contents and advise if it is fine? (Ie. will not be deleted)

I do not understand why my earlier article was deleted in the first place.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taxaccnicole (talk • contribs) 01:32, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I responded on the user's talk page. PleaseStand (talk) 02:09, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

My new edit has stayed red ?
I went into "List of New Zealand Artists" and added my name ... Liz McAuliffe .. this was my first ever edit ... with the page saved and published ..my name has gone red.. it was black when I typed it ... others on the list are blue ?? bit confused. Thanks Liz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liz..Carver & Painter (talk • contribs) 02:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It is red because the link you added, Liz McAuliffe, doesn't have an article. See WP:Redlink.  Blue links are those entries that have articles.  GB fan 02:40, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You may also want to have a quick look at our guide to writing about yourself, especially if you're thinking about writing that article. -- N  Y  Kevin  @278, i.e. 05:40, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

F.MOLINA CAMPOS/929
IS THERE A PAINTING: "PARAO?..DE LOMO!" BY F.MOLINA CAMPOS /929? I HAVE ONE & NEEDED TO KNOW IF THIS IS AN ORIGINAL OR FAKE. IF SO WHAT IS THE VALUE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF IT? THANK-YOU VERY MUCH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.162.175 (talk) 04:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. RudolfRed (talk) 04:43, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia and Wikia
Is there anyone on wikipedia that is affiliated with wikia? I've been trying to contact Wikia staff, but I haven't gotten any responses. Can anyone help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.92.86.13 (talk) 04:36, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you tried this form? -- Jayron  32  05:25, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

article's
Hi, I am trying to create an article about a model, she did everything there was, but everytime i create it, it get's deleted and I dont know why, and I would like to know. I think she should have a wikipedia page, please help me. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.134.179.68 (talk) 04:46, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * What is the name of that model? Is she popular enough to have a Wikipedia article on her? What was the reason your article was deleted? I have seen your contribution page but could not find anything helpful there--Tito Dutta (Send me a message)
 * Please see the specific notability guideline which covers models, Notability (people), and remember that reliable sources would need to have discussed the individual and the content you include. Dru of Id (talk) 07:14, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Need a third party to verify neutrality
Hello!

I've been watching an ongoing issue over at Glenn McGee and it seems there's some spotty language there about what's neutral - More importantly, the line that reads "McGee is President of the Ethics Research Division at Celltex Therapeutics Corporation where he has recently come under fire." - Something about the recently come under fire part doesn't sit right with me, Could someone clear this up? --RedMongoose (talk) 07:39, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Watchlist bot (no, not that one)
Because my preferences are currently set to watchlist any article I edit, my personal watchlist fills up pretty quickly - every couple of weeks, I have to go through and prune a few hundred pages out. It's not a massivly onerous chore, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a bot that could partially automate the process (by, for example, removing deleted pages or closed AfD discussions)? If there isn't one, would anyone fancy writing it? Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 11:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is possible for a third party bot because regular users and administrators cannot see or edit your watchlist, so even a bot with an admin flag would not be able to do this. However, I imagine a person could set up their own bot running under their own account to do this for themselves. So maybe this could be done If someone has written such a personal bot and would provide you the code for you to set up yourself. I have no idea how one would search for that though. By the way, thanks for the barnstar!--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:14, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Good point, hadn't thought of that. Well, I sure as hell don't have the skills to write my own, so unless some kind soul with a more technical brain has already done the job, I guess I'll just have to spend a bit of my time ticking boxes. Cheers, Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 14:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Changing the "d" to "t" in templates
WP:VPR

I haven't been involved in that discussion, but I notice nobody has replied to the closing admins question at the top and no action seems to have been taken yet. I am unsure about the procedure for continuing with implementing the change, thus I brought it here to gather some attention. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:01, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Replied at original discussion. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 12:10, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I have to admit that given the discussion was closed about one hour before my posting here, this might have been a bit overzealous on my part. :) Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:16, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Placing section below image, but alongside infobox- clear doesn't do it
In the stub article St Gregory's Minster I've added an image of the sundial and would like the next section to start below it - but not below the infobox, which is where clear would put it. Is there a way to do this? I know that in an ideal world we wouldn't have an image at the same level as the infobox, but this image is particularly informative in showing why the sundial is important, and the article is shorter than the infobox. Any ideas Pam  D  12:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Like this? I'm sure we must have a better system in place, but I've no idea what. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 14:37, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * There are two variants of -  and . In this case, the latter is the template that you're looking for.--  O BSIDIAN  †  S OUL  00:25, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

FC Anzhi Makhachkala
Hi guys, I love your work

I thought I would let you know, some jerks have edited your page regarding the russian football team FC Anzhi Makhachkala

"The club was founded in 1991 by Mitch McCarthy and has played in the Russian league since 1992"

"On 23 August 2011, English trio Dan Shutler, Anthony Sparrow and Mitch McCarthy signed to play at FC Anzhi Makhachkala for a sum of around €64m, earning them 20.5 million euros a year each.[15] Eto'o went on to say that the addition of Sparrow was an added incentive for him signing for the club, insisting the qulaities of a player like Sparrow would give him the service he needs to score the goals to help Anzhi become one of Europe's elite"

None of these guys have anything to do with the club or football. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.156.58.140 (talk) 13:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikia
I've already tried to reach Wikia through the link you gave me. Is there anyone on Wikipedia that can help me with a Wikia problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.253.150.83 (talk) 15:03, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * It depends on the problem. If it can be discussed in public then try posting it here and see if anybody answers. We use the same software as Wikia. If it's a private matter then Wikipedia is not associated with Wikia and you are in the wrong place. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:38, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Username refusal
I have created an account and posted a brief summary abt myself. When I attempt to log in it tells me the username does not exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.76.97 (talk) 15:31, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * When did you create the account, and what was the name? We can look at a log that shows accounts created, and hopefully find a similar name there. It's possible you misspelled the name when you registered, in which case we can change the username for you via WP:CHU. But first things first. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 16:11, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Remember that user names are case sensitive, and that the spelling must be exact. If you tell us the user name, someone can check that it was registered.  If you may have got the user name wrong but you generated a user page, if you can tell us what was in that we could search for it.  If you have edited any articles, we could hopefully trace the user name from that. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:15, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

For Scholarship
I am Abdulai koroma .I live at (Redacted) Freetown,Sierra Leone,West Africa. I am a student .I am physically disabled.But i thank God that my physical disability does not affect my mental ability. With all these,i have acquired a Higher National Diploma and with a Diploma in Computer software package.Therefore,i need sponsor to acquire a Bachelor degree in human Resource Management/Development and or Bachelor degree in computer Hardware science(IT). I am writing you to help me for Scholarship so that i can become somebody important in my community where i stay. To crown it all, i am hopping to hearing from you Due consideration and deserves for i will esteemed it a personal favor Thank you. yours faithfully ABDULAI KOROMA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.21.45.243 (talk) 16:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. RudolfRed (talk) 16:56, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Crosswiki pictures
I just created the english page for Roberto Frinolli (under pressure from another editor who wanted to blank his name from a list because it was red linked--thats a side issue. In the process I found he already has several articles in other languages, including a nice picture on his home language of Italian. How do I include that picture on the english version? Trackinfo (talk) 18:05, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * That may be a problem. The image used in the Italian article (it:File:Roberto Frinolli.JPG) has been uploaded to the Italian Wikipedia, based on the belief that it is public domain in Italy (PD-Italy). For the image to be used in the En Wikipedia article, it would have to either be uploaded to En Wikipedia or to Commons. The former would fall foul of En Wiki's non-free use criteria and the latter would be a problem because there is apparently some dispute as to whether PD-Italy is acceptable on Commons. – ukexpat (talk) 18:16, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Searching for specific types of images
Hello!

I would like to search wikipedia for images that fall under the "public domain" category. I would like to exclude all other types of image copyrights like creative commons share-alike and so on. Is there some way to search for, say, Egyptian art in the public domain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xuwriter (talk • contribs) 18:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, most files on Wikipedia are hosted at commons.wikimedia.org. The files there, have categories and one of them is the Category:Public domain. All files in that category are PD. Art can be found in Category:PD Art. Egypt related files can be found in Category:PD Egypt. I hope this helps. I do not know of a better way. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 19:16, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Wynne Theater
Can someone help me with my article so it can stay up on the website? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Articles14 (talk • contribs) 18:48, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * User:France3470 responded to you there. Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 22:37, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

What does the lock icon after a link mean?
What does the lock icon after a hyperlink mean? I've only noticed these recently and I can't fathom what it might mean.

For an example, in the article on GNU Octave, look under "Other GUIs" after the link for OctaveNB.

Somewhat rhetorically, why is it so difficult to find the answer to this? I can't say I've exhausted every possibility, but I spent at least 10 minutes searching for an answer before I tried here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.109.210.28 (talk) 19:08, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * You mean like https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page? That indicates a "secure" (https) connection. – ukexpat (talk) 19:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes - that's it - seems obvious now. Thanks.

Still, it is a major failure in documentation that I couldn't easily find the answer to that question on my own. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.109.210.28 (talk) 19:42, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * See more at Help:External link icons. That page may be difficult to find but the icons only signal information already present in the url. A lock icon for https is common on the Internet. See for example the many Google results on . PrimeHunter (talk) 20:26, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

That probably would have jumped out at me, but I was browsing the wikipedia site with https,so it kind of confused things. And I actually did manage to find the page you are talking about after I originally posted the question. Look at what I subsequently wrote on the Help Talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Contents#Wikipedia_Icons — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.109.210.28 (talk) 21:26, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Category:American anti-communists
Does it go against WP:NPOV to collectively refer to articles in categories regarding people who are Nazis, fascists or KKK members as "anti-communists" rather than include the anti-communists category on individual articles of Nazis, fascists and KKK members as being anti-communist? It would seem to me that these groups are not intrinsically connected, and it doesn't seem like a very good idea to subcategorize them as if the concepts were directly related. Fascism/Nazism is not directly connected to opposition or criticism or communism, there are different reasons for the different groups to hold such views. Individuals who do not have fascist or Nazi leanings may hold viewpoints that criticize communism or oppose communism for their own reasons, and the overall ideologies are not defiantly connected to opposition to communism. Having these categorizes associated with anti-communism just doesn't seem very neutral to me.--WTF (talk) 19:29, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, this category has got to be refined in such a way that it doesn't lump mainstream politicians with the raving loonies.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:41, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. A category like "American Christians", within its sub-categories, contains everyone from Christian Socialists like Frank Zeidler, to fascists and near-fascists of various ilks. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  21:42, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * In this case, subcategories don't seem to be used for most entries. And Michelle Bachmann?  I'd like to see if something can be done here.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:07, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

rational point article is mysteriously messed up
Hi, the actual version of the article isn't the same as the "current version" as edited by User:Ozob some time ago. In fact the actual version doesn't resemble any previous version, as far as I know. The reference is now missing but the reference heading is moved onto a different section. But there is no record in the article history of any changes since Ozob's work. Thanks for your time.-Rich Peterson216.86.177.36 (talk) 21:16, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You are seeing a cached version of the page. Eventually the cache will be cleared and the new version will be sent, but there isn't any way I know of to hurry that process.  Incidentally, users who are logged in have to be sent the uncached version because they may have custom options that need to be applied.  This is another reason to register for an account, although it's not intentional.RJFJR (talk) 21:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ozob's version looks the same as the current version to me, but I purged the page. Does it look different now? - Purplewowies (talk) 21:26, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * You can purge a page if you don't see the current version, but purging is easier for logged in users. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:29, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Setting up a page
I registered first under our company trademark name it was not accepted. I re registered under my first and last name. I now have an account. We are an internet company and I want to create a page such as this. How do I do this and where do I do this. I see that this would not be an article process. This is an example of what we will be creating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NexTag — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelle Cole (talk • contribs) 22:04, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Start by reading WP:COI. —teb728 t c 22:16, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok I get that but it the Nextag page is allowed than we can do the same thing. I am asking how to do it. Is it an article post. I am new to this site.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelle Cole (talk • contribs) 22:44, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Start here: WP:YFA RudolfRed (talk) 22:50, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * You should not assume that because other stuff exists that your company is entitled to an article. Since 2008 when NexTag was created, there is much more hostility to editing on behalf of a company. The NexTag article was nominated for speedy deletion as unambiguously promotional five minutes after being created. Fortunately for that article someone rewrote it rather than deleting it. Nowadays a promotional article would not be so lucky. And experience shows that users editing on behalf of a company are unable to write articles that are adequately neutral. Even if there were a possible article for your company, you are one of the least qualified people on earth to write it. —teb728 t c 02:17, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Request for Page Restoration
A few weeks ago, I moved for the deletion of an article (Masonic Lodges of North Carolina). A few days into the process, I realized that there was a potential copyright issue. The page was blanked and the AfD was closed very quickly, even though the primary author (EricCable) has stated that he managed to quickly round up permission to use the file on which the page was based, and that he now has the relevant permission.

It turned out that the user who blanked the page (He to Hecuba) was a banned user running a sock. As such, though I intend to move for deletion again, I would like to ask if the page could be restored so that it could at least be userfied. At this point, the blanking and deletion of the page strike me as vandalism by a banned user rather than legitimately addressing an issue that came up. EricCable got a raw deal out of this, and in my opinion the process was badly tainted by He to Hecuba's actions.Tyrenon (talk) 23:06, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * For reference Masonic Lodges of North Carolina was deleted per Articles for deletion/Masonic Lodges of North Carolina. —teb728 t c 23:52, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Also per the closing statement, User:Wifione, the closing admin, said when Eric is ready to just contact him for help in restoring the article. GB fan 00:05, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd remembered the bit on one of the admins saying to contact him, but I'd lost the link to the AfD.Tyrenon (talk) 00:31, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * teb728 just linked to the AfD. Unless you meant a different AfD?  -- N  Y  Kevin  @274, i.e. 05:34, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I think he means before I posted it. I got the link to the AfD by clicking on Masonic Lodges of North Carolina, which gives the deletion log entry. —teb728 t c 08:05, 25 February 2012 (UTC)