Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 February 6

= February 6 =

automatic highlighted add
Is there a way to automatically add highlighted link to my list on editing page instead of typing  to high light it like
 * Laser action
 * Laser aiming module
 * Laser airborne depth sounder Shawn Worthington Laser Plasma (talk) 00:30, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The syntax is not for highlighting but rather for linking to another page. Please do not use it for highlighting; use it (if you do use it) to link to other pages that users are likely to want to visit. —teb728 t c 09:08, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I actually meant linking to other pages I just was wondering if there is a way to automatically add to the word cause I had to do It myself on my new article I created list of laser articlesShawn Worthington Laser Plasma (talk) 18:38, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * There's a button in the edit toolbar called "Internal link". - Purplewowies (talk) 18:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Ref: User:Yasmin_Karim also File:A. K. Nazmul Karim.jpg
Sometime ago, I submitted an article on (late) Dr A.K. Nazmul Karim for publication. Yet, when I google wikipedia and hit the search button for his name nothing comes up! Why is that? I have spent a lot of time researching. Everything in that article is accurate. I read books written by him, read interviews given by him to the local newspapers when he was alive, talked to people who knew him personally. He was the foremost sociologist of his time. There was no discipline for studying Sociology in his country. He recognized the importance of studying and recording society + culture and he started the Sociology Department at his University. I know future generations will look up his name for reference + study. There needs to be a place/page they can go to!

Please let me know why I cannot find the article when I google his name!

72.66.43.171 (talk) 02:11, 6 February 2012 (UTC) Yasmin Karim


 * The "article" has not been submitted anywhere. It is currently a draft in User:Yasmin Karim. The draft stiil needs a lot of work before it will be an acceptable article.
 * By the way, if you are User:Yasmin Karim please remember to always login before writing anything on Wikipedia. Roger (talk) 12:06, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

What is the difference between the "Update" and "Out of date" templates?
I'm trying to contribute to an artile that is terribly out of date. It was tagged in May 2010 with the "Update" template. The article desperately needs an expert or semi-expert looking at the thing. Should I tag it "Out of date" as well? Which template is designed to sort the most attention, or should I use both? J.D. Hooijberg (talk) 02:58, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks to me as if Out of date is for use in situations that are more serious; e.g. we'd use Update on New York City if the latest census data was from 1930, but we'd use Out of date on Sudan if it still said that the country bordered Uganda. Saying "As of 1930, the population was..." is quite accurate but easily able to be updated, since the 1930 census data hasn't changed, while "Sudan borders Uganda" is not accurate because the recent creation of South Sudan means that Sudan doesn't border Uganda.  Therefore, if the article has statements that are factual but able to be updated, I'd suggest that you use Update, while if it has statements that were once factual but aren't anymore, I'd suggest Out of date.  Nyttend (talk) 04:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * That makes sense to me (although the difference really is a nuance). Thanks a lot for your effort explaining this. As it is an country's economy article, Update is the appropriate label. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdhooijberg (talk • contribs) 04:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I messed up a reference list
I tried to insert an additional item in the list of references in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_ratio

but I messed up. The title "References" vanished, as well as the [edit] command on the right hand side. How do I fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarinSwimmer (talk • contribs) 06:03, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've undone your mistakes. You may want to read Referencing for beginners for help in this.  It can be tricky.  -- Jayron  32  06:06, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I corrupted a reference list
I tried to insert an additional item in the list of references in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_feedback_amplifier

but the title "References" vanished, and so did the [edit] command on the right hand side. Can anybody undo my mistake please?

Also, can anybody show me quickly how to insert an item correctly? I tried to read the instructions provided earlier by Jayron32, but I am getting lost. Thanks!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.243.23 (talk) 06:38, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The most recent addition to that article has already been undone. The problem was that the closing tag was on the same line as the equals signs that trigger the heading - those equals signs have to be at the start of a line in order to work. Other than that, the reference syntax was correct.
 * The most recent addition to that article has already been undone. The problem was that the closing tag was on the same line as the equals signs that trigger the heading - those equals signs have to be at the start of a line in order to work. Other than that, the reference syntax was correct.


 * The edit was undone with the extra comment "Wikipedia should not be used to promote a book", so you should begin a discussion at Talk:Negative feedback amplifier before trying to add the book to the article again. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:43, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I've posted to the talk of the editor to see hwo they came to the conclusion that it was promotion. - Mgm|(talk) 10:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The fact that the "reference" was not appended directly to any statement in the article basically means it was not actually a reference at all. Thus it might be reasonable to suspect unacceptable promotion. Roger (talk) 11:56, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Restoring page on "IMP³rove"
Dear Team,

The page called "IMP³rove" has been recently deleted on 4 January by Wikipedia, but it is a key page for reference to IMP³rove project run by the European Commission, a large number of consultants, and small and medium enterprises (SMEs) based out of Europe. Can you please suggest what we need to do to restore it, as the article is really informative about the project and how SMEs can benefit out of it?

Look forward to your reply and prompt help.

Best regards, Ashish Sikka — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashu151086 (talk • contribs) 09:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * See the archived discussion at Articles for deletion/IMP³rove. The article was deleted because it was promotional, and it didn't show how the organization may meet our notability standards. —teb728 t c 09:44, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Since you say "we" I suspect you have a close connection to the organization. You should also read Conflict of interest. Also you say that the purpose of the article is to show "how SMEs can benefit out of it". This seems to show that you regard the purpose as essentially promotional. Sorry but Wikipedia does not tollerate promotional content. —teb728 t c 09:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, if Wikipedia page is a "key page" for your project, then your project is misusing Wikipedia. Wikipedia is for collecting and summarising information which has already been published elsewhere, in indendent, reliable sources. --ColinFine (talk) 00:08, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Paul M. Ellwood, Jr.
Hi, I recently reviewed a new article nomination for WP:DYK. I renamed the page from Paul M. Ellwood to Paul M. Ellwood, Jr. The page creator created an inordinate number of redirects for the original page, Paul M. Ellwood, using every possible word combination and period placement. I started to fix the links to redirect to the new page, but gave up. Is there any way to globally erase all these nonsensical redirects? Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 10:26, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I think there is a bot that automatically fixes double redirects. —teb728 t c 18:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * That will fix the doubles but to delete silly redirects like Dr Ellwood or most of these, you have to tag them manually. – ukexpat (talk) 18:48, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * OK (groan). Yoninah (talk) 20:05, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, guess what? Two bots cleaned up all the double redirects and did all the work for me! :) Yoninah (talk) 21:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have nominated most of the redirects for deletion at Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 February 7 PrimeHunter (talk) 00:20, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you do all that manually? – ukexpat (talk) 01:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't tag the redirect pages which would be the big job to do manually. Creating the list for the nomination page was easy by copying WhatLinksHere to a text editor and doing search-and-replace with the code at WP:RFD. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:23, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Frances Raday
The entry for Frances Raday is completely out of date. Please enter the following instead of the existing data:

Frances Raday, Professor of Law, is Director of the Concord Research Center for Integration of International Law in Israel at the Haim Striks Law School, COLMAN; Member of the UN Human Rights Council Working Group on Discrimination against Women; Chair of Israel’s Equal Employment Opportunity Commission’s Advisory Council; Elias Lieberman Chair of Labour Law (Emerita), Hebrew University of Jerusalem; Honorary Professor University College London and Doctor Honoris University of Copenhagen. She is the author of numerous academic books and articles on human rights, labour law and feminist legal theory. She has acted as legal counsel in precedent setting human rights cases in Israel’s Supreme Court, including employees' rights in transfer of enterprises, inventors' rights to patents, freedom of association and collective bargaining, Palestinian employees' class action for full National Insurance rights, women’s constitutional rights to equality in religious ritual at public sites (Women of the Wall) and sex discrimination in retirement age.

Selected recent publicationsItalic text:

1.	FAMILY – AN INTERNATIONAL AFFAIR, LAW IN CONTEXT SPECIAL ISSUE (co-editor with Alison Diduck) (FORTHCOMING) 2.	THE SEPARATION BARRIER – INTERDISCIPLINARY ANALYSIS (co-editor and contributing author (with Yuval Shany), Concord Research Institute for Integration of International Law in Israel, 2004) (Hebrew). 3.	ADJUDICATION OF INTEREST DISPUTES - THE COMPULSORY ARBITRATION MODEL, Institute for Legislative Research and Comparative Law, Hebrew University, Jerusalem (1983). 4.	Gender and Democratic Citizenship – Confronting Traditionalism and Neo-liberalism: the Impact of CEDAW, Cardozo Law Review, forthcoming. 5.  Sacralisation of the Patriarchal Family in the Monotheisms, FAMILY – AN INTERNATIONAL AFFAIR, LAW IN CONTEXT SPECIAL ISSUE, Alison Diduck and Franxces Raday, eds. forthcoming. 6.  From ILO Standards to EU Law: The Case of Equality Between Man and Women at Work (Eve C. Landau and Yves Beigbeder) – Book Review 46 COMMOM MARKET LAW REVIEW 1343 (2009). 7.  Secular Constitutionalism Vindicated, 30 CARDOZO LAW REVIEW 2769 (2009). 8.  From ILO Standards to EU Law: The Case of Equality Between Man and Women at Work (Eve C. Landau and Yves Beigbeder) – Book Review 46   COMMOM MARKET LAW REVIEW 1343 (2009) 9.  Traditionalist Religious and Cultural Challengers – International and Constitutional Human Rights Responses, 41 ISRAEL LAW REVIEW 596 (2008), available on SSRN at: http://ssrn.com/author=628086. The paper was recently listed on SSRN's Top Ten download list for LSPLCL: Constitutional Creation (Topic). 10. Boundaries and Frontiers of Labour Law (Guy Davidov & Brian Langille eds.) – Book .Review, PUBLIC LAW 612 (2007). 11. The Neo-liberal Contribution to the Failed Treatment of Citizens in the Second Lebanon War: Questions to Eilon and Vinograd Committees, 3 THE PLAN FOR ECONOMY & SOCIETY 12 (2007) (Hebrew). 12. Self-Determination and Minority Rights, 26 FORDHAM INTERNATIONAL LAW JOURNAL 453 (2003). 13. Culture, Religion and Gender, 1 I.CON, INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF CONSTITUTIONAL LAW  663 (2003). 14. Privatising Human Rights and the Abuse of Power, 13 CANADIAN JOURNAL OF LAW AND JURISPRUDENCE 103 (2000). 15. The Insider-Outsider Politics of Labour-Only Contracting, 20 COMPARATIVE LABOUR LAW & POLICY JOURNAL 413 (1999). 16. Religion, Multiculturalism and Equality: The Israeli Case, 25 ISRAEL YEAR BOOK ON HUMAN RIGHTS 193 (1995).  Chapters in books

1.	Commentary on Convention for Elimination of Discrimination Against Women, Art 4 & Art 11, OUP (forthcoming).

2.	Feminist Legal Theory, Legislation and Litigation in Israel – a Retrospective, in STUDIES IN LAW, GENDER AND FEMINISM (Daphna Barak-Erez, ed. Nevo Publ) 16 (2007) (Hebrew).

3.	Claiming Equal Religious Personhood: Women of the Wall`s Constitutional Saga, in RELIGION IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE, A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS OF GERMAN, ISRAELI, AMERICAN AND INTERNATIONAL LAW 255 (Winfried Brugger & Michael Karayanni Eds., Max Planck Institute, Heidelberg, 2007).

4.	The Decline of Union Power – Structural Inevitability or Policy Choice?, in LABOUR LAW IN A PERIOD OF GLOBALIZATION 353 )Joanne Conaghan, Michael Fischl & Karl Klare eds., Oxford University Press, 2002). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Francesraday (talk • contribs) 11:08, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The place to suggest improvements to an article is on the article's talk page. You need to remember, however, than an article is unlikely to include a complete bibliography on the subject, and you also need to remember that the content needs to be verifiable by reference to independent reliable sources. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:34, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Reference
Is there any sort of tool which can combine two or more citations in multiple cases in an article having the same url into one (like, by following the "ref name" function)?  X.One   SOS  12:05, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd expect such a tool to be listed under Citing sources or Tools/Editing tools but I can't see any. --Colapeninsula (talk) 16:01, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you trying to use the same source with different page numbers? ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 18:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * If so, I found this., usage here.  Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:29, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

How to subscribe
I was wondering how too subscribe to Xxlmag on line — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.26.16.229 (talk) 13:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Roger (talk) 14:26, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

how do i delete my wiki history?
how do i delete my browsing history in wiki?

tks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.87.52.86 (talk) 14:09, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * If by "wiki" you mean Wikipedia, it doesn't keep a record of your browsing history. It records pages which you have edited (see the "My contributions" tab at the top of the page, or 98.87.52.86), but of course if you do not have a registered account and your IP address changes, it will record only the edits made by your current IP address (and that might include edits made previously by other users with the same IP address).  The record of your browsing history will be stored in your browser, so it is to your browser that you would need to go if you want to delete it. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:24, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia will record any edits you make to pages in your contributions; you cannot edit or clear this history. Wikipedia does not, however, record your browsing history (the pages you visit). These will still be recorded in your own browser history and you can clear this in the same way you would normally clear/edit your browser history. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 20:17, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

BASCA logo
File:BASCA logo.jpg

I am trying to add the organization logo to the article British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors InfoBox, but am having trouble. Can someone help me?--Doug Coldwell talk 14:18, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Done. You had too much formatting. The infobox template takes care of formatting automagically, trying to override it is not a good idea. Roger (talk) 14:30, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Now I get it!!--Doug Coldwell talk 14:52, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

whereabouts of school
i hae been searching your article about schools in ipoh, Malaysia. I have been trying to trace my old school, Raja Perempuan School. I was a pupil there until i left school in 1961. Then i left Ipoh to come to Englang to do my nursing. I recently started to look into my childhood days and been reading items about Ipoh from your site and i realised that almost all the roads have now been changed. So even the name of the road is not known to me anymore. I only know that Raja Perempuan School was situated in Chamberlain Road. I remember the school so well, as we,the pupils of the school were the ones who built the road. I remember we were made to dig the stones from the ground. I remember one day, one of my classmates had an accident with a stone and one of her fingers, i think it was her thumb, received the injury and she was bleeding. I remember we had to stop the digging and were all given two sweets each. I think that was to sweeten us from reporting the incident to our parents. The headmistree was an Indian Lady, and if my memory serves me well, her name was Mrs Dara. I remember some of my teachers: Miss Chinniah (Maths)Mrs D'Souza(English). Those are the only 2 i can recall....there were several others. I remember whenever we had a rpots day, it was attended by the Sultan od Perak...cant remember his name but he wore dark-rimmed spectacles. i have alos been searching for different places but because th emajority of places have had their names changed, i cant find them. I would dearly love to see photos of my old school again. Would be so nice if can find anything about my old hometown. Are you able to help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.159.186 (talk) 15:05, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The folks over at the appropriate Reference Desk may be able to help you. – ukexpat (talk) 16:39, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Editing external links for an organisation
Hi,

I am trying to change the external links on the article about the charitable organisation I am part of to link to our new website, but can't find how to delete the old one. The old link was posted by a former employee who was recently fired and has since hijacked our previous site, forcing us to make a new one. He is continuing to use the old site, pretending that he still works here and is generally damaging our reputation (we are a very small organisation so his actions are quite serious!). We are going to great lengths to remove all association between our organisation and the now fraudulent site and really want to make sure wikipedia has the correct link.

Apologies for not posting the page, but if it's OK, I would rather not post the name of the page here as I am reluctant to attract the attention of the individual in question. He is actively pursuing a hate campaign against a number of individuals in our organisation so I would like to do this quietly if I can. Can anyone give me some advice on how I can get this fraudulent site off the page? I couldn't find how to do it anywhere.

Again, sorry for giving quite vague details on the page I am editing, I hope it makes sense!

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bannabinbags (talk • contribs) 16:27, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * It's hard to help without knowing which article you are referring to, but generally speaking, click the edit link next to the "External links" section of the article and edit the text to correct the link. Also, if you intend to make any further edits to the article, please read WP:COI and WP:BESTCOI. – ukexpat (talk) 16:35, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * If, however, you don't mean an external link but a reference, you'll need to go to the section where the reference is called up. From the references section, click the up arrow ^ at the left hand end of the reference (or the superscript 1 if the reference is used more than once), and that should take you to the relevant section. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you David Biddulph! I somehow missed that "edit" earlier. All done now though which is great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bannabinbags (talk • contribs) 16:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

concern about a posting on the page of Barack Obama
Under the section "Family and Personal Life" someone has inserted in caps, the words Obama is gay!!!.

Really - should this be allowed to stay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chapmlg (talk • contribs) 16:45, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * It was reverted automatically as vandalism within a minute of it being added. Singularity42 (talk) 16:48, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It might energize the base.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:51, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * On which side?Naraht (talk) 20:28, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * All of 'em. 88.104.27.162 (talk) 01:54, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Saint Just book image

 * File:Saint-Just_-_Œuvres_complètes,_éd._Vellay,_I,_1908.djvu

In the article on Saint Just, there is an image that is (I think) meant to be of a copy of his complete works, but all that is visible is a piece of marbled end-paper. This is probably easy to fix, but I have failed to figure out how. Maproom (talk) 17:15, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You can make it display a different page from the file; see Picture tutorial. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * in this edit. – ukexpat (talk) 19:28, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit Displaying.
Hi, I haven't edited Wikipedia in ages. But anyway, I was tidying up Maria Sharapova a couple of times. Particularly the 2012 section. However whenever I made my edits, if I exited out of the browser and returned to the page it would be displayed as it was before I edited. However, if I go on the talk page and then back to the article it appears as normal. I've also looked at it in different browsers and the same thing happens, I just hope that visitors can actually see what I'm doing. Do you know why this might be?--OgiBear (talk) 17:25, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You may need to purge your cache(s). -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

What does RPO mean
What does RPO mean Right procedure operation, or regional protocol obstetric, or right posterior oblique, or right preventive oblique  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.11.197.75 (talk) 17:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Depending on context it may mean any of the things at RPO and possibly others. —teb728 t c 18:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I get the feeling this is some sort of homework/take-home test question. Wikipedia doesn't do homework for you. - Purplewowies (talk) 19:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Three-letter acronyms are common and RPO can mean hundreds of things. If you want to test whether a certain meaning is common then try a search engine like https://www.google.com/. Enter RPO followed by the potential meaning in quotation marks. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:38, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Editing an Article
As the National Director of Communications for an organization (the Society of St. Vincent de Paul), I edited a general article on the organization, changing some incorrect facts, including the section of the organization in the United States. How long after I submit those corrections are they accepted and then posted?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prman214 (talk • contribs) 18:44, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Changes are visible immediately. I note however, you removed some interesting information about locations in Lewiston, NY and Chicago, IL.  As a general rule, information should be supported by a reliable source - neither the information you supplied or the information it replaces is referenced.  Astronaut (talk) 19:00, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, please read WP:COI for more information on correct editing of articles for which you have a conflict of interest.Naraht (talk) 20:27, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Creating links to places within articles that do not have separate articles in their own right.
I'm working on pages related to the county of Monmouthshire, England. I want to complete the coverage of "listed buildings" within the county, that is buildings which are notable for their special architectural or historical importance. But I don't know how to do it when the building I want to tag as, for example, a "Grade I listed building", doesn't have its own article but is mentioned within another article. An example might best illustrate my issue:

The Church of St Jerome, Llangwm, Monmouthshire is a Grade I listed building in Monmouthshire. So I want to tag it as a Grade I listed building, so that it appears in the list of "Grade I listed buildings in Monmouthshire". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Grade_I_listed_buildings_in_Monmouthshire)

But St Jerome doesn't have its own page, appearing within the page on Llangwm. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llangwm,_Monmouthshire) Indeed the church probably doesn't merit its own page but it should be listed as a Grade 1 listed building. I can't just tag the Llangwm page as that mentions other buildings in Llangwm and it wouldn't make clear which building was the listed building.

So I'm stuck. But I feel sure there must be a way to tag a building, or anything other "thing", which doesn't have its own page but does warrant a tag.

Really grateful for any help. KJP1 (talk) 19:01, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * There is no problem with an article containing a redlink if the subject of the link is likely to be notable and warranting the creation of its own article. So you have a couple of options: create redlinks as a reminder to yourself and others that those articles need to be created, or, link to appropriate sections of other articles as you suggest, but in parallel keep your own list in userspace of the the "redlink" articles as a reminder. See WP:REDLINK. – ukexpat (talk) 19:10, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * See also, a redirect which I have put in a couple of relevant categories. Grade I churches will merit their own pages with little problem, given the wealth of information about their history and architecture. See Anglesey churches for what I'm (slowly!) doing at the other end of the country if that helps! BencherliteTalk 19:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Really helpful - and so prompt. Many thanks to you both and all the best for the North.  We could meet somewhere around Welshpool!  KJP1 (talk) 19:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Retrieving only articles (main namespace) via external search engine like Google
I frequently use Google to find WP articles because of the many useful search features it provides. In some cases, though, Google returns a poor mix of articles, talk pages, user pages, "wikipedia:" pages, category pages, media pages, etc., which makes it hard to find the articles, which is the aim of my search. I am looking for a way to guide Google to only (or mostly) main namespace articles so that the results are useful. (I know about namespace selection on WP's own search engine, but I often find that search inadequate to my task.)

I have looked in vain for searchable text that exists only on article pages. I have looked in vain at WP URLs and page titles for unique, searchable text. If such text exists, I could add it to my query and thus Google would return only the useful pages.

Do you know of such text to use, or of any other method or trick to get Google to return just articles? -R. S. Shaw (talk) 19:31, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I tend to subtract the things that occur in the titles of *other* spaces, so for example, I add -intitle:Talk and -intitle:User.Naraht (talk) 20:26, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Could you tell it to exclude pages with non-mainspace prefixes? Like,  ,  ,  ,  , etc? - Purplewowies (talk) 20:28, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Include "Cite this page" in the search. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:29, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks good, but may also need to take part of the previous answer and include -"Wikipedia:Help" - David Biddulph (talk) 23:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * "Cite this page" seems to work pretty well. Thanks. -R. S. Shaw (talk) 18:07, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of orphaned non-free file
Can I tag a non-free file with although it has not been orphaned for seven days? The file in question was orphaned through this edit and replaced in the article with another file, but I am unsure whether that is a valid F5 or not. If it is not, which CSD criterion (if any) applies, or should I simply do nothing and wait for a bot to delete it? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:36, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I think the 7 days refers to how long the file is tagged before it is deleted, not to how long the file has been unused before it can be tagged. – ukexpat (talk) 21:48, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

how to edit
Can you supply a simple and easy answer on how i can edit an existing entry? HB — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.14.178.15 (talk) 22:23, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This page should help you get started: WP:HEP RudolfRed (talk) 23:16, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Click an "edit" link at a section heading, or the "Edit" tab at top of the page, or the "View Source" tab if there is no Edit tab. See more at Help:Editing. If you have problems with a specific edit then please name the page and describe the wanted edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:17, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

How should units be designated in table headers?
What is the (preferred or required) notation for indicating that something is a unit in a table header?

Observed examples: in a single article, Water (data page), there are four different styles:

1. Melting point of ice at various pressures. No special notation, the unit is just listed at the end, with only a space separating it from the rest.

2. Water with dissolved NaCl. Comma before the unit.

3. Standard conditions. Unit on a separate line.

4. Formulas. "in" before the unit.

And in Properties of water:

5. Heat capacity and heats of vaporization and fusion.  around the unit.

--Mortense (talk) 22:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Take your pick; be WP:BOLD and make it consistent; discuss on Water (data page); recommend a norm on MOS:UNITS (and/or clarify the existing guidelines there, if appropriate. Or talk about THAT on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers). Go for it. Fix stuff; make it better. 88.104.27.162 (talk) 02:00, 7 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't WP:TABLE be the natural place to add a standard way to? --Mortense (talk) 18:01, 7 February 2012 (UTC)