Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 January 12

= January 12 =

channel numbers for fox footy
the new channel numbers for fox footy on foxtel and austar are hd 206 and sd 504. the reference is feom austar website — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.238.233.216 (talk) 01:42, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there an article that needs to be updated? If so, which one? RudolfRed (talk) 02:47, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Rap Group Cali Swag
You have listed that Cali Swag member Corey Fowler aka DC Smoove was killed in a car accident on December 31. THIS IS NOT TRUE. HE IS NOT DEAD. He is still a member of the group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.146.49 (talk) 01:57, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks like someone has already fixed this on Cali_Swag_District. RudolfRed (talk) 02:26, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Security Code/Picture problem
I've lost the password to my earlier account and I understand that I can't recover my account as I didn't record my email at the time.

I've tried registering for a new account but can't do so due to the confirmation (security) codes used by the process. Is there a way to register (eg by email?) without a security code being used? Thanks, 182.177.24.16 (talk) 02:01, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * See Request an account. There's a form you can fill out.  RudolfRed (talk) 02:23, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks...however I think I will post a note on the policy page about the security codes that Wikipedia uses anyway.182.177.24.16 (talk) 04:03, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What's a security code? The Mark of the Beast (talk) 22:12, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this refers to the CAPTCHA - it has its own help page. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:32, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Can't find an old TFD
Holidays (formerly on the Main Page) was tagged with tfd on 3 December 2004; does anyone know how to find this discussion? WhatLinksHere doesn't give any links from TFD-related pages, the deletion log has disappeared, a search for "holidays" in the "search archives" section at the top of TFD doesn't yield anything relevant, and the December 2004 TFD archive doesn't have anything about it. Nyttend (talk) 02:37, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * TfD back in 2004 had the discussion right on the TfD page, that is it did not transclude separate discussion pages. The last revision before closing (by removal) is here and the removal diff is here. The weird thing is that I cannot find the entry in the deletion log.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:02, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Aha. The deletion log apparently only goes back to December 23, 2004. Interesting.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:11, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

URL points to Incorrect article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worlds_Within_%28The_Outer_Limits%29

The above URL does not point to the synopsis of the "Worlds Within" episode of Season 7 of the Outer Limits, but rather a page which describes the history of the Outer Limits television series, both original and newer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.121.27.65 (talk) 03:00, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * It was actually intentional. It's a redirect in the Wikipedia sense which means that the url does not change although another article is displayed. Below the heading it says "(Redirected from Worlds Within (The Outer Limits))". The page history of the redirect shows there was once a tiny article: . See also Television episodes. I have changed the redirect target from The Outer Limits (1995 TV series) to List of The Outer Limits (1995–2002) episodes. The latter has a brief mention of the episode. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:39, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's intentional. All the other links on the episode page go to articles for that episode.  Why would the link for the Worlds Within episode point back to the main Outer Limits article?  RudolfRed (talk) 03:44, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Because there is no separate article for the "Worlds Within" episode? – ukexpat (talk) 14:10, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Reporting vandalism
Users with IP152.226.7.211 and IP152.226.6.204 been vandalizing articles. Thought you guys might want to know and block it.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 03:44, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * has been given a final warning; has not edited for two days so it's probably too late to do anything. For general advice see Vandalism. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:04, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

recently added 'Eric Arnott' article
I have done some editing on this article and added in line citations and removed dead links. Can someone advise what other major issues need to be addressed to further improve this article. Thank you Ovigalltd (talk) 13:07, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I will answer on article's talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 14:21, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅. – ukexpat (talk) 17:59, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Darren Clarke and Rory McIlroy
Hi

I have obtained Darren Clarke and Rory McIlroy items for a sports dinner auction. I wish to match it with a photo and write to ask whether Wikipedia has copyright on the displayed photos of the two golfers? And if so, whether or if it is possible to use these photos?

Thanks

John F.31.52.136.102 (talk) 13:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * The photos currently displayed on those golfers' pages are:
 * commons:File:Rory_McIlroy.jpg
 * commons:File:Rory_McIlroy_practicing_on_the_green_at_the_2010_PGA_Championship.jpg
 * commons:File:Rory_McIlroy_at_the_Memorial_Golf_Tournament.jpg
 * commons:File:DarrenClarke.jpg
 * Wikipedia does not own the copyright for any of these photos. However, all four are hosted at the Wikimedia Commons and have been released under a Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike licence, which allows you to re-use the photos subject to certain easily-met conditions.  You can see what those conditions are by clicking the file names above and scrolling down until you see "Permission" or "Licensing".  If you have any more specific questions, the best place to ask is Commons:Village pump/Copyright, or else check out Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia.  Cheers, Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 14:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Special:DeadendPages
Special page Special:DeadendPages has not been updated since 2009 and is therefore useless. How can we get the page updated so we can address dead-end pages? Lineslarge (talk) 13:43, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Good luck getting it fixed. If you want an alternative, many articles that contain no or few external links are marked with the Wikify template and are listed at Category:Articles that need to be wikified.  Of course that's not much help in finding these articles, only in repairing them. --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:05, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Take a look at Deadend pages and read this last 4 comments in this section. Von Restorff (talk) 14:30, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The answer below from John of Reading clearly shows that the comments that Von Restorff refers to no longer apply: there may well have been a technical problem several years ago when the comments were made but this external site has obviously overcome that. Lineslarge (talk) 15:55, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You may have more success at the technical village pump or on wikitech-l. I don't have the faintest idea how to update that special page, but I suspect it requires sysadmin intervention, and those places are good starting points for that.  -- N  Y  Kevin  @886, i.e. 20:15, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Dead-end pages which have been tagged with are listed at Category:Dead-end pages (238 of them). Dead-end pages which have not been tagged can be listed using the tool described at Deadend pages (767 of them). -- John of Reading (talk) 09:18, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, well John of Reading's answer certainly gives a workaround and I will use that external resource to find the pages for now. Someone outside of Wikipedia has obviously solved this.  Back to my original question then: can the Special:DeadendPages be fixed so it updates automatically? Lineslarge (talk) 15:55, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No. It was disabled because it used too many server resources - see here. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:27, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

complaint against biju rasheed
hi I want to complaint against biju rasheed he is from varrakal kerala,phone number is(REMOVED PHONE NUMBER) he make fake id in the name of roma asrani and put my photo my pic and number in his photo album with nude picture kindly block tht id — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.73.45.193 (talk) 14:02, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TN X Man  14:18, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Ugh
I see "improve this page" blocking the lower-right hand corner of the Google article... 71.175.53.239 (talk) 14:15, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I do not see that. Have you tried adjusting your display -perhaps that is the cause of the issue. TN X Man  14:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No Tnxman307, this bug is a feature. This location for the WP:AFT5 is a terrible idea, but the AFT1 was much much worse. screenshot Von Restorff (talk) 14:22, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * For those who (like me) have the AFT thingummy turned off, this is what the OP means. Deor (talk) 16:19, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ??? Von Restorff (talk) 17:16, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Unable to locate article
I created an article without an account for the Cardigan Bay Special Area of Conservation. The editing team then asked me to input further references for it to be approved. I have done this and re-sent for approval but it has not been published and I don't know how to find the article again in the editing bit. How would I know who to ask whether it has been approved and can I find a way back to the article I wrote? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.83.155.213 (talk) 14:17, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you mean this? Von Restorff (talk) 14:19, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

I got two warning notices
Hi, I am trying to write some biography pages for scholars in law-and-society. I got two warning notices -- one for "Carol Heimer" and one for "Susan Hirsch". The "Heimer" one said I needed to put in more refs, and I did, but it still seems to have a warning on it? and the "Hirsch" one said it had too much promotional material, so I took off some external links (which I personally think would be helpful, but I removed them anyway). What else should I do, and how can I get the warnings taken off of those pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thepeanut2 (talk • contribs) 16:25, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * If by "Warning notices" you mean the page top boxes saying that "the article reads like an advert" or that "the article needs to be cleaned up" etc.; they aren't strictly "warnings". They are observations by other editors that work should ideally be done to the articles to improve them. Do what you can to improve the articles with the templates messages in mind, then when you feel the article doesn't suffer from the issues highlighted, just remove the template from the page (usually the template will have been placed at the very top of the page or section it refers to).  fredgandt  16:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thepeanut2 (talk • contribs) 16:54, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Why does redirect point to an old/obsolete page???
I've noticed this: For example if there is a page for SomeLongName, but there is a redirect page for it called Shortcut. Now if I click on SomeLongName I always get the current version with the latest edits. But if I click on Shortcut, it always redirects me to an old version of SomeLongName and not the current version. I've tried purges, etc. Nothing worked. Why? I thought a redirect should always send the reader to the current article... Thanks. Useroipho (talk) 16:52, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Shortcut is a disambiguation page not a redirect. If you are using "Shortcut" symbolically, please refer to one or more specific pages. —teb728 t c 16:58, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * It's caused by caching on Wikipedia's servers for performance reasons. "always" is an exaggeration but it's common for unregistered users on redirects. Your account was created 8 minutes before your post so I guess your experiences are as unregistered. Purging ought to work but make sure you are purging the redirect url and not the target page. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:13, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Edititing page title
Hello, I am trying to set up a page for an Artist Lucien Smith, i have it saved in my sandbox not quiet ready to submit.

i have one issue, there is already a page for a "Lucien Smith" who is an Attorney. It looks as if the page was created to promote the Attorney while he ran for Treasurer last year.

i am wondering how and if i can change his page title to Lucien Smith (Attorney)

in order to create a page for Lucien Smith

please let me know if this is possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lazlo718 (talk • contribs) 17:05, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * You wouldn't. You would move your draft to Lucien Smith (artist), assuming that it meets the relevant inclusion criteria. – ukexpat (talk) 17:23, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Please also take a look at WP:CREATIVE for guidance on notability. – ukexpat (talk) 17:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

SOPA Sucks
As a user of your service, I thank you for your continued opposition of H.R. 3261, the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), and S. 968, the Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act (PROTECT-IP). I implore you to consider one-half or full-day of restricted site access to your global services in protest of the aforementioned bills in the way that news-sharing site Reddit plans for January 18th between 8am–8pm U.S. Eastern Time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pylonx (talk • contribs) 17:29, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Appreciated, but the Help Desk probably isn't going to be the place where most run across this message. Calabe1992 17:32, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If you really want to discuss a blackout or other action, go to WP:SOPA, and note that new users may carry less weight than established users (I know it's unfair, but it's just how the politics here work out). -- N  Y  Kevin  @838, i.e. 19:06, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Search facility
Although Juan Vicente de Güemes Pacheco de Padilla y Horcasitas, Second Count of Revillagigedo is listed among the "Viceroys of New Spain" in Wikipedia, entering "Revillagigedo," (the name by which he is best known) in your opening search facility does not lead to this entry. Why not? How can this be corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.19.19.50 (talk) 18:29, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks to me like the word could refer to either Count of Revilla Gigedo. In any case, I think a hatnote would suffice, but I'm unsure where to direct users.  -- N  Y  Kevin  @875, i.e. 20:00, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * "Revillagigedo" by itself could refer to the count, or to his father (also a viceroy of New Spain); to any of the three geographical features named for him, to the palace in Gijón of that name, or to the fish native to the Revillagigedo Islands. This calls for what we call a disambiguation page for the word "Revillagigedo" without qualifier. I have created such a page at Revillagigedo. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  20:13, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Eaton Bay Financial
Eaton Bay Financial-- understand this investment company was sold back in the 1986 time frame. Would like to know to whom and the present owner ,if any, as to its disposition — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjkilburn. (talk • contribs) 18:34, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.  -- N  Y  Kevin  @850, i.e. 19:24, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Photo Removed
I added a photo for an article I wrote about Susan Ershler and it was removed.Why? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reliablecyber (talk • contribs) 18:35, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Is this the file you're talking about?


 * According to the logs, the first time you uploaded it, you did not fill in the non-free use rationale, and the second time you failed to specify a source. For reasons of copyright, every file must have a source specified.  Additionally, files which are not available freely must have a detailed non-free use rationale -- basically an explanation of why we need to use an unfree file.  If you took this picture yourself, you should release it under a free license, such as one listed at WP:ICT/FL (as there are a lot of options there, I would recommend picking one of the Creative Commons licenses, particularly cc-by-3.0 or cc-by-sa-3.0, but it's up to you), if you want it to be accepted.  If it belongs to someone else, follow the non-free use guidelines.  -- N  Y  Kevin  @833, i.e. 18:59, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Addendum: In this case it looks like the non-free use was rejected because Susan Ershler is still alive, so someone could go and take a free image of her. In that case, you may not be allowed to use that image unless you can show that someone taking a free image of her is unlikely to happen.  -- N  Y  Kevin  @835, i.e. 19:02, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Contributing a photo which is relevant to an encyclopedia article already on Wikipedia
Hello, I have at various times consulted Wikipedia, but this is the first time I have ventured into the "inner workings". I have been teaching myself to use Photoshop (I have the full commercial version 7 from '02, as well as the latest {v.10} PS Elements). For source material, I have been looking around The Library of Congress picture collections, and out of the thousands I have studied, there are about 75 that I've downloaded in .tif format, each file being between 20 & 30 MB. Yesterday I found a very nice shot, needing very little (compared to what I've seen) restoration of two streamlined steam passenger trains running side-by-side over a stone viaduct, dated c. 1939. I was intrigued because upon close inspection I saw that one locomotive was British, the other American. Googling the British loco got me to Wikipedia URL en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS.Princess_Coronation_Class_6220_Coronation

The information in the Wiki article both satisfied my curiosity and answered my question about how an American and British train could be running together: The British locomotive was in the USA on a tour in connection with the World's Fair in New York. The photo I found was apparently taken during the tour. It would make a dandy illustration for an article that currently has none, and is directly related to statements within the article. I have literally just this moment signed up for a Wikipedia account, and am very interested in taking part wherever I can, but am presently totally overwhelmed with the sheer volume of information to absorb. I don't know where to start. I have all the relevant info about the photo, including the statement on it's web page within the LOC that there are "no known restrictions on publication". Could you please point me in the right direction so I could make this photo part of the article? Thanks very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xgi93 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It would be helpful if you could tell us precisely when the image was published, if ever (remember: publication and creation are separate things). Is it an orphan work?  If so, this may be rather complicated; although there may be no known restrictions, there could still be unknown restrictions which we still need to comply with.  I would recommend starting at our page on public domain images, but note that you may not be able to contribute the image if it turns out to still be copyrighted.  I'm sorry that it's so complex, but copyright law is very messy.  On the other hand, if it is copyrighted, you may still be able to contribute it under our non-free content rules, but those are a lot more stringent (the image has to be actually, currently useful as well as impossible to replace with a free equivalent).  Finally, if it does turn out to be public domain, please upload it at Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that other projects and languages can also use the image (Commons doesn't accept non-free content).  -- N  Y  Kevin  @861, i.e. 19:39, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Please Consider Helping
SOPA/PIPA are very dangerous and threatening to the internet. Please consider joining many websites Jauary 18th by either blacking out the site or putting an informational banner across the top of every page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.11.52.17 (talk) 19:19, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but this page is for questions regarding using Wikipedia. You may want to post your request at the village pump. TN X Man  19:25, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * See WP:SOPA. – ukexpat (talk) 19:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Formatting error on Wikipedia Page
I noticed a formatting error on at Arab Citizens of Israel. When I tried to fix it, I was unable too as it was some sort of bizarre error I'd never seen before. Could someone take a look at it or at least let me know how to fix it. Thanks. Oneworld25 (talk)
 * Sorry, that article is very long and I have no idea where the formatting error is. Is [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arab_citizens_of_Israel&diff=471022502&oldid=470610451] relevant (I know that's not you...)?  Can you describe the error at all (was it big red ugly text in the middle of the article, for example?)?  -- N  Y  Kevin  @890, i.e. 20:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Does this fix it? (I assumed that the three citations were supposed to be to the same reference.) – ukexpat (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

The error been fixed. It was under the section about Arabic and Hebrew as official languages. Sorry I wasn't more specific.Oneworld25 (talk)

Request assistance:Moving a category
Hi, administrators

Please help moving Category:Television adaptation of The Legend of the Condor Heroes to Category:Television adaptations of The Legend of the Condor Heroes. Thanks you--NeoBatfreak (talk) 22:11, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Maybe a passing admin will do that, otherwise you will have to request it at Categories for discussion. – ukexpat (talk) 22:21, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Admins can't move categories (no-one can - the contents of a category can be moved to a new category and the original deleted, but that requires editing the articles not the category). I have added the request for renaming and Categories for discussion/Speedy where, if there are no issues, a bot will carry out the article changes to sort out the category in 48 hours or so. Sit back and relax, NeoBatfreak! BencherliteTalk 22:24, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

User name change went wrong!
I got my name Ursurped and it seems my contributions went to the name JayJay but my username is still technically JDOG55, because all my contributions where moved JDOG555 has no edits and I cannot use twinkle. I would like to contact this User but it is locked please help me! JDOG555 (talk) 23:52, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to log out and log back in as "JayJay" with the same password as before. Goodvac (talk) 23:55, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Both accounts will now have the same password and the same email address attached to it as your original account. The old one would be a redirect to the usurped account by default. You should now use the new one with the same password as suggested by Goodvac. Everything's normal. -- lTopGunl (talk) 00:03, 13 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I see the user now has new contributions (marked as resolved). -- lTopGunl (<b style="color:#000">talk</b>) 01:18, 13 January 2012 (UTC)