Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 January 25

= January 25 =

Article for creation - AVANCE
Hi Petr,

I was unsure if this was the right section to submit this enquiry, so I apologise if it is in an incorrect place. I recently submitted an article for creation on an organisation called AVANCE. I understand this requires further editing and this seems to be in relation to explaining how the subject is noteworthy enough. I could do with some guidance on this, as I have included references to reporting and articles in The New York Times, Harvard Education Review and references to former First Ladies, Hilary Clinton, Roslaynn Carter and Barbara Bush. The organisation also receives funding from a number of well-known organisations and has been the subject of a good level of academic research. The source material I have used is reasonably broad ranging and I guess I'm struggling to understand what more needs to happen in order for the profile to be published. I would appreciate your help in this matter.

Thank you.

Fergal Fbell74 (talk) 00:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * For one thing I think it would be helpful to summarize it the first section of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/AVANCE how AVANCE satisfies standards at WP:ORG. —teb728 t c 02:26, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * OK - thank you. I will amend the opening paragraph accordingly. Fbell74 (talk) 02:37, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Help with Frederick C. Leonard
I have improved the referencing of the Frederick C. Leonard article quite a bit..... there are several online sources. I would like to get other editors involved.... what is the best way to do this??? I put a note in the Physics project with no result..... Please also see the talk page note on potential WP:COI (Is this enough?). Thanks, Ariconte (talk) 01:26, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * As far as your very minor COI (I always think of carp) goes, I can see no problem there at all. With regard to getting more editors involved, WikiProjects should be the right method, but sadly some don't seem to get much traffic. Give it some time and see what turn up. The best way to get interest in a subject, is for that subject to be interesting and widely linked (without spamming of course).  fredgandt  02:02, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Can't log in
My cookies are enabled and I log in okay, but when I try to access any pages, I'm logged out. I tried clearing the browsing history, cookies and etc. but it's still happening. This occurred suddenly while I was gone over the week end. Are there any more things to try? Pkeets (talk) 02:03, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Two possibilities: You haven't checked the "Remember me..." box, or you are logging in on http and accessing on https (or vice versa). Try logging in at both and make sure the "Remember me.." box is checked.  fredgandt  01:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. I rebooted and that did it. Pkeets (talk) 02:03, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahh, soggy cookie? Much nicer when they're fresh!  fredgandt  02:04, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

User name issue
i started a page and i made a mispelling of my user name please tell me how to delete my account so i can start again thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saroffonic sounds (talk • contribs) 02:21, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * You'll need to ask to change your name. You cannot delete it and start again.  fredgandt  02:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Am I right in guessing that you want to have a username that represents the name of company or organization? Such a username is not permitted; you username should represent you personally. —teb728 t c 02:33, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Keyboarding Pro 5 & Keyboarding Pro 6
What is the difference between Keyboarding Pro 5 and Pro 6? For me (student). I have used Keyboarding Pro 4. Keyboarding Course 1 - 25 With keyboarding Pro 6 with cd. Are all these the same? Getting use to using the computer keys, games and etc. Also cheap and not very expensive. THe usbn Number 111426465,0840053320,0840053320.Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.52.12 (talk) 02:48, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. CharlieEchoTango  ( contact ) 02:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Keyboarding Pro 4, Pro 5, Pro 6 andKeyboarding Course 1 -25Pro 6
What is the difference between all of these? I have been useing Pro 4 without a textbook. When I come to the request to use the textbook I can't since I do not have a book. Is there a textbook for Pro 4? My computer is 2007 and compatible 2010. I am a student willing to purchase these books. Is there any of the above that are resonible prices? Thank you very much for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SinderKod (talk • contribs) 03:05, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * See the reply immediately above. —teb728 t c 03:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

How to contribute
Re-added by  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  Original posting caused accidental page blanking. 03:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

There is so much muddle to go through it gets discouraging to figure out how to contribute things. I compiled a complete listing of all the turnpikes in New York State. The one that is on Wikopedia is incomplete. Mine covers nearly 100 years and more than 300 entries. I have it on a Microsoft spreadsheet, but I when I tried to post it it all came out in crooked and run-on columns. It is documented. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hartlot (talk • contribs)


 * The text on Wikipedia is processed by a parser from the raw text we enter into the editing textarea. That raw text needs to be written in what we call wikitext. Learn how to write wikitext here.  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  03:46, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Krygzstan article on mobile device
While reading wikipedia article on my iPad I tapped the screen 2x trying to zoom in. it brought up a "restricted image"l. Ie porn Let's just say I didn't know such a thing was anatomically possible....ahem, what would make it do this? What the heck is it linking to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.238.222.127 (talk) 03:47, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * This page is for help using and/or editing Wikipedia. You will probably get more appropriate help at the relevant reference desk.  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  03:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the OP is saying that one of the images on Kyrgyzstan was vandalized. Perhaps the problem has been cleaned up, for I don't see a problem on the page now. —teb728 t c 04:04, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Since the touch-screeniness of an iPad could cause utterly different behaviour than is commonly expected, and according to my own viewing of the page and its immediate history, I came to the conclusion that this was a technical problem at their end, not ours.  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  04:11, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It turns out this was, in fact, a problem at our end which has since been fixed. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 05:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed.  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  06:52, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Israel's page: All links lead to pornography.
On the country Israel's main page, all links are set to lead to a pornographic picture. Please fix this. I know its not you're fault but its pretty offensive. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.92.72.28 (talk) 03:50, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see it. Which links specifically are you talking about?  RudolfRed (talk) 03:57, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * This sounds very similar to the thread two below this one. Again, there's nothing wrong with the links in the Wikipedia article Israel. Your computer is most likely infected with malware and you may be able to find help at the computing reference desk. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 05:33, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * My apologies – this actually was a problem with Wikipedia, which has since been fixed. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 05:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Request for Article Feedback
I created my first article and need some assistance/feedback. When I clicked on the link to request feedback, it took me to a page that said the process was inactive.

I believe my article is ready to be published, except for two things. 1. I need to upload an image file (I'm currently using an existing image). 2. The links do not appear in the outside links section.

Thanks! Ernieg92 (talk) 04:16, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, I've fixed the links for you at least. Dismas |(talk) 04:39, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

there is something wrong with article regarding Islam religion
why, when I open an article about islam, ALL the link there become 1 link directing to image of a pig (littlepiggies.jpg). This is annoying, I tried to reload my browser, clear the cache, but all that don't work. So I think that was some act from stupid people who stupidly try to shame Islam religion, it is just me or everybody experience that, thanks, fix it ASAP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.248.55.67 (talk) 05:24, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Assuming you're talking about the article titled "Islam", there's no problem with the links in the article, nor has there been recently. It sounds like your computer is infected with some kind of malware.  The folks at the computing reference desk might be able to help you more. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 05:29, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is us. See Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Goodvac (talk) 05:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

well no duh, if my computer is infected, why no weird things happen at other site I visited, besides, my computer don't show any infectious behavior, haha. But, nevermind the problem resolved, as soon I visited that page, yes that article about islam, it went back to normal, so how come my computer is the suspect. And fyi I visited wikipedia almost everyday to read many things :). Thanks for your attention :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.248.55.67 (talk) 09:29, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

finding pages titles
Hi, I want to download some information (latitude, longitude, region, etc.) about as much Europian cities as possible. Theese information are usualy stored in the infobox or something at page of the city, i found some api wikipedia provide, but dont know how to use it for finding titles of pages, im reading it about secound day and got nothing new and starting to be a little confused. i want find some data whitch could help me with this ... probably some list of all europian cities ... the best should be titles of articles where i can found theese informations (titles of articles of all europian cities wikipedia got in DB). If I could have the titles i know how to ask wikipedia's service for some json with information i need. is it possible to get some help with this ???

thx for any help :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.5.202.57 (talk) 05:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * There is List of cities in Europe. You could work from this list and go through each list linked from there and look up the information in the individual articles linked from those lists. Unfortunately I am not aware of any tool that could be used to extract the data you desire from all those articles, so I guess you will have to collect that data manually by visiting each article. The list could be a good starting point though. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * You might find this list useful to extract from each table the information you need.   D b f i r s   16:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Article on Israel vandalized
Hi guys,

Someone's linked up the demographic links on Israel to a jpeg of somebody... erm... making themselves happy, as it were. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thering22 (talk • contribs) 06:01, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming this is related to others' concerns with similar things happening on other pages. It's been fixed. Please see Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents if you want to know more. - Purplewowies (talk) 06:11, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

inquiry about article which is reviewed by your volunteer
Hi

I had submitted the article(the name of article is Kusumba/Kusumbe),That was reviewed by your volunteer and i got a mail regarding that there were no any references in article submitted by me.So i edited that article and entered the references in it.After that i submitted it for review but still i didn't get any mail regarding the review of my article whether it was reviewed or not.So will you pls help me for knowing the status of my request — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rohan pardeshi1717 (talk • contribs) 06:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You last edited the article less than two hours ago. The notice at the top of the article states "This submission is waiting to be reviewed. This might take several hours, or even days, at busy times." (emphasis added by me)  So, I would suggest waiting.  After all, as you point out, this is a volunteer operated web site.  Dismas |(talk) 06:41, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Include old versionof the images from Image history
It is possible to include Images of old version and current version at a time something like that File:smaplev1.jpg | cropped version File:smaplev1version.jpg | full version -- Terminator  (talk) 07:44, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No, this isn't possible. Extended image syntax lists all the available options. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:12, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks -- Terminator  (talk) 10:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * It becomes possible if the two versions are uploaded under different names. Cropped versions are often uploaded with a new name. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

The Earlier Tribes Of the Eskimos Thule ,Mythology and Social Groups
Hello my name is Chris Clubb and I have a few questions for you. I am writing a new storie on "Conan The Cimerian" and I'll what to be very clean of what I am asking for inreturn. Here are my questions as follows :


 * 1 : I would like to know if the Thule ever at all, worshipped any Gods or deitites at all ?


 * 2 : Was there ever hidden anicent ruins, of an other lost race before them at all.


 * 3 : I would like to know also did they practice any kind of "Santanic Rites" or anykind of demon workship at all ?


 * 4 : Did the people every thought of interbreeding with the whales, or any other kind of wild life ?


 * 5 : Wasn't there a tribe of cavemen before the "Thule" that ever existed at all ?

could there be giant reptilian creatures at all ?
 * 6 : Was there every sightings of strange creatures, "Dinosaurs" ,"Bigfoot" , or strange unknow from mankind ,

7# : If there was a timeline, or a periode , did the Thule ever had a religion at all , could there have been a "Cimerian" ever existed at all ?

8# : Was there at all, a reglion group, or a following cult or sect , in the making thought out the years ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.214.133.238 (talk) 08:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If you don't find the answers at Thule people, try asking at the Reference desk. As it says in the page header, this help desk is only for questions about using and editing Wikipedia. —teb728 t c 08:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Home Visiting Provider Network HVPN
Sorry but can't see where to log a request to look into this I.T related topic. HVPN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.210.173.191 (talk) 09:26, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Is that a question about using or editing Wikipedia? I don't understand what sort of thing you want. —teb728 t c 09:48, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Since IT stands for Information Technology in some cases, and the most relevant result I could come up with using Google was the roaming article, about telephones, I would suggest the Computing Reference Desk. Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 18:50, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Oakleigh Race Course
Looking to  find  out  where  the  Oakleigh  race  couse  once  exixted  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.137.122 (talk) 09:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Does the Oakleigh Racecourse railway station article answer your question? —teb728 t c 09:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

How to do a Redirect for Discussion
I know that there is a place in Wikipedia called Redirects for Discussion but I was not quite sure how to add  a new entry there. I would like the fact that if one types St. Paul's Day into the box on the right, one gets redirected to "Feast of St. Peter and St. Paul" in June, up for discussion. I have always taken St. Paul's Day, as is cited in Patricia Morrell's book "Festivals and Customs", to be January 25. How do I go about adding an entry on the Redirects for Discussion list, please? Many thanks in advance for any help here. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 09:41, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * You would have the best chance of finding informed editors with an opinion on this on the redirect target's talk page, in my view. Edit here.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:44, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you - I have taken your advice. Many thanks, ACEOREVIVED (talk) 11:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Interwiki templating
Can we use the English wikipedia page as a template in other wiki projects like below -- Terminator  (talk) 10:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * After a quick check at the French Wikipedia - no, this doesn't work. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * You can copy a template from one Mediawiki project to another, but not use it directly. Be aware, though, that some templates require other templates and some require parser functions or other extensions which may or may not be present in the target wiki. --ColinFine (talk)

problems with the content of the Turin School of Development page
Dear madam, Sir,

my name is Elena Lanza and I work for the Turin School of Development (TSD) part of the International Training center (ITC) of the International Labour Organization (ILO). I have tried several times to modify the content of the wikipedia page of the "Turin School of Development" because it contains wrong information but after a while (sometimes only few minutes) the page was modified again with the wrong information. I do not know what to do, is there a way to protect the page ?

Thank you, kind regards

Elena Lanza --Erlena (talk) 12:44, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * You need to read what you have been told on your talk page regarding copyright violation and plagiarism. If the subject of the page is the organisation for which you work, you also need to to read about conflict of interest. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

T-90
TRATE DE ANEXAR UN LINK DONDE APARECE LA BANDERA DE VENEZUELA EN LA DESCRIPCIÓN GRÁFICA DEL T-90MS TAGIL, Y NO PUDE HACERLO CORRECTAMENTE, LUEGO TRATE DE BORRARLA (SOLO BORRE EL LINK QUE AGREGUE) Y SE BORRO ALGO MAS, NO SEMO PUEDO ARREGLARLO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.88.45.70 (talk) 14:33, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Google translate says: "TRY TO ATTACH A LINK WHERE IT APPEARS THE FLAG OF VENEZUELA IN THE GRAPHIC DESCRIPTION T-90ms Tagil, AND COULD NOT DO IT PROPERLY, THEN TRY TO CLEAR (CLEAR ONLY THE LINK TO ADD) and clears SOMETHING MORE CAN I NOT SEMO"  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  14:43, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * The changes you made to the article changed the article language. This is English Wikipedia, and articles should be written in English. I have reverted you edits.  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  14:49, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Los cambios realizados en el artículo de cambiar el idioma del artículo. Este es el Inglés Wikipedia, y los artículos deben ser escritos en Inglés. Me han vuelto a ediciones.  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i> 


 * It may be useful to the OP to provide them with the URL of the Spanish WP - http://es.wikipedia.org
 * Would someone fluent in Spanish please translate. Roger (talk) 17:17, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Someone already did  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  18:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Free Encyclopedia
I want one a s a p — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.71.218.151 (talk) 15:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You're browsing one, so go nuts. If you want a free paper encyclopedia, I'm afraid we can't offer you one. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  15:35, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

text from another site that was originally on Wikipedia is now a copyright violation?
The text that was entered in an article has made the article marked for deletion. The original source of the text was a wikipedia listing that was originally written by me and removed by mistake when someone highjacked my account. This text then populated many websites which have kept the text online. Now my article has been marked for deletion stating it is a copyright violation. This is incorrect. How do I remedy this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedoctorbrain (talk • contribs) 16:25, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Everything submitted to Wikipedia is licensed under a share and share alike thingy (CC-BY-SA), so any site using it has to attribute Wikipedia as the source (therefore the original writer). Without getting too buried in the complexities of infinite paradoxes, if your text is still available, and you can prove it is yours, you should theoretically be in a strong position to save it. I'm NOT an expert.  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  18:33, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * If you are referring to, the article has not been "marked for deletion". It does, however, have other issues as indicated by the maintenance templates. – ukexpat (talk) 18:56, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Fake user writing false and unverified content
Is it possible to find the IP address of a Wikipedia user who edits the content of a page to make it deliberately inaccurate and odefamatory?

Here is the name: Sunshine81190 Their edit is available but the user is no longer listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.254.77.155 (talk) 16:26, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What is the page under discussion? What do you mean by "fake" user? -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  16:46, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * The account made only one edit, back in August last year. I have reverted the edit, and warned the editor in case (as seems unlikely) they were to reappear. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:47, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * No user is fake; especially if they have made any edits. Attribution etc blah blah. I believe admin can perform something called checkusering, but am not sure exactly what that means (but can guess). There would have to be just cause though. One edit last year is not just cause to snoop about after an IP.  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  18:38, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Checkuser is a seperate user right that admins don't have. See WP:CheckUser. — Edokter  ( talk ) — 19:07, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah ha! (I never really paid that much attention since it wasn't any of my business) Thanks E.  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  19:10, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Translation
How to help in translating from English to French and from Italiano to French? Thanks a lot. Giovanni Poma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnmariopoma (talk • contribs) 16:45, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your offer to translate. If you wish to translate articles from French to English, you should check out this page. If you wish to translate articles from Italian to French, you may want this page on the French Wikipedia. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Article disappears?/
When I go to bio of Crown Prince Frederik of Denmark his bio appears briefly then suddenly disappears and all that is left is the right hand border listing othermembers of the Danish Royal Family. I have not had this problem before and it does not happend with other articles. this just started to happen this morning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swiminbuff (talk • contribs) 16:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks fine to me. Perhaps you've got a browser problem?  Might be worth trying a different browser and/or purging the cache. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:58, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Someone keeps deleting my posts
On a page called "Ethnic Malays", everything I keep posting (Philippine population) keeps getting DELETED simply because whoever keeps deleting doesn't THINK IT'S TRUE.

Apologies for sounding vulgar but it's really pissing me off. I've cited my sources I don't know what else I could put.

I want to know the asshole who keeeps deleting my posts. If it's the entire Wikipedia community, that's NOT GOOD. Because I'm a linguist AND an anthropologist and I don't fucking appreciate being mistaken for some average joe out there fooling around with Wikipedia pages! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PacificWarrior101 (talk • contribs) 17:14, 25 January 2012
 * Your manner of communicating is not consistent with the way things are done around here, so apology not accepted. I will look into your complaint anyway, but I urge you to refactor this request.-- SPhilbrick  (Talk)  17:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Looking very briefly at your recent contributions, I’m not surprised they were reverted. They may be valid, but there are a number of problems. I suggest posting at the article talk page, explain what changes you want to make and start a discussion. I’ll be more specific if you show that you are interested in contributing.-- SPhilbrick  (Talk)  17:25, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Let me put that a little differently: Like all articles the content of that article is determined by a consensus of interested editors, including you. If you want to build a consensus for your change, you will need to discuss your proposed changes on the article talk page, Talk:Ethnic Malays. But when you do, drop the attitude; you will influence no one if you come across there like you did here. Also, please understand that being a linguist and anthropologist doesn’t necessarily give you any more authority than “some average joe.” —teb728 t c 20:06, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm Filipino and I find this offensive. Filipinos were lumped together with the Malay race (the "brown race", to complete Blumenbach's color wheel) in the early 20th century, along with other mainland and maritime Southeast Asians. It was espoused in part by the American Commonwealth and part of the general tendency then to classify people into races (used as justification as well for anti-miscegenation laws). Needless to say, this was before the inevitable nastiness that followed - WWII. To put it simply, the original justification for confusing the ethnicities of the two nations is pure and simple racism. Calling Filipinos "Malay" is like calling French people "Aryan".


 * The Philippines has dozens, if not hundreds, of culturally interrelated but ethnically distinct peoples. A Maranao has as much in common with an Ifugao as a Cossack has with an Irishman. Even the closest peoples to Ethnic Malays in the Philippines - the Tausūg and Bajau people of Sulu and Sabah, have considerable differences in both culture and language to Ethnic Malays.


 * So no. I don't think you're an anthropologist nor a linguist.--  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   20:24, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Finding links
When I write an article, how can I find links to the title? If I search before I save the article, I can manually set links, but after I save it into Wikipedia, is there a way to search for and set up unlinked mentions of the title? Pkeets (talk) 17:15, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Just off the top of my head, I think it would be easier to use Google. Search for site:wikipedia.org "Name of Article", which should return a list of all of the mentions of the article title. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:17, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I understand the question, but I will point out that in the bar to the left of the page there is a section Toolbox which contains a link to "what links here" which shows of list of links into the current article. RJFJR (talk) 17:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * "What links here" is a good option, but I don't believe that unlinked mentions are included. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The Google search did it. Pkeets (talk) 17:32, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Find link is very good for this see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Edward/Find_link . You can select any text to look for which is currently a page (or a redirect). I use this tool a *lot*.Naraht (talk) 18:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Is your problem that entering the title in the search box will go to the page if it already exists? When you type in the search box, there should be a drop-down box where the bottom says "containing...". You can click this instead of Enter to avoid going to the page. You can also hit Enter when the search box is blank to get to the search page with namespaces. The "Search" button there does not go directly to a page with the searched title. See more at Help:Searching. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:50, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks to all. These are very helpful suggestions. Pkeets (talk) 15:43, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Questions about account creation
I was creating an alternate account (for the reason written here). I was doing it on this page while still logged in and there was a "reason" field. I have two questions: Thanks. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:18, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Can I create an account without logging out or do I have to log out to do so?
 * 2) What is the "reason" box for?
 * You do not have to log out to create an account. Staying logged in will show that Purplewowies created an account. The reason field allows you to explain why you are creating another account. See this page where User:Crazycomputers created an account for another user and used the reason field to explain why. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks. I've created the account. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

logo and license applicability
A single image has recently appeared (File:Success Academy Charter Schools.png) that is a combination of a picture of a scene at a location of an organization and an organizational logo. Both parts relate to the same organization. The logo is not part of the scene; rather, the image presents the logo and the scene adjacently. The whole image is provided under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license. I have no information about whether the organization itself has authorized anything with respect to the image. I've read Logos and don't know the answer. Is that license appropriate for the part of the image that is the logo?

The logo being in the article is not itself an editorial problem. It is relevant.

I assume this is different from the situation of a picture of a scene in which the same organization's logo is visible as an integral part of the scene (File:Harlem Success Academy jeh.JPG). Where the logo is integral, I understand that the licensing of the picture of the scene is unaffected by the logo being in the scene. My question here is about the use and purported licensing of a logo that is in the image but not integral to the scene.

Nick Levinson (talk) 17:26, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * There is no copyright release at http://www.successacademies.org/index.cfm so the logo part of the image must be assumed to be copyrighted. In that event it does not belong on Commons so I have tagged the whole image for deletion as a copyvio. – ukexpat (talk) 19:03, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

In regards to books ofthe bible
I like to order some books that are on the back of MOSES volume 1, 2 and 3. How do I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linda Moloney (talk • contribs) 17:29, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Roger (talk) 17:40, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Trojan Horse
While I was researching "Koreans" on wikipedia, I referenced another wikipedia page about Altaic peoples. I immediately received Trojan horse warnings from AVG. The infiltration was so bad, I had to shut down and restart my computer to complete the cleaning. I had always assumed wikipedia was a clean site, but that page seemed to have some type of problem. For what it's worth.

thanks for all you do, Celeste — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.166.239 (talk) 17:32, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noting this. Are you sure you were on the Wikipedia website? There are a lot of sites that mirror our content and many have viruses. Be sure to check your address bar and confirm you're on en.wikipedia.org. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:43, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Especially please watch out for typosquatters. Nyttend (talk) 01:38, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

auto focus
I must have touched something on my Leica D-lux 5 and now I cannot get it to auto focus, which it has been doing all the time. can you tell me how to get the auto focus back working. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.116.42 (talk) 18:35, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.  f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i>  18:43, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Changing the city for a company listing.
I updated the city on the company I work for, but the change didn't take (everything else did). What do I need to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwitzig (talk • contribs) 21:30, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The city seems to be changed from LA to Mineapolis in one place but not the other, but the change has now been reverted because you have also removed references. This is not good practice unless you replace them with equivalent references.  Could you please find some?  You may also have a conflict of interest if you are an executive of the company, so references are important.    D b f i r s   21:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The edits appear to have been from a copy of the displayed text, not the actual wikipedia code, so all of the references were moved down to where the reflist is. Dwitzig should probably look at WP:REF for information on references and WP:COI for conflict of interest issues.Naraht (talk) 21:57, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Could I suggest that your company first updates its website, if it has indeed moved from California?   D b f i r s   22:14, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Trimming books.google.com links.
What I have been guilty of myself in the past is including what my search term was when linking in a google books link for a reference, for example (not mine) http://books.google.com/?id=6PrmTAKiy0QC&pg=PA153&dq=nubian+pyramids+kings++tomb. This goes to the correct book (the id= and the specific page, but also highlights nubian, pyramids, king and tomb in the text which I don't think is needed. I'd like to see all of the links to books.google.com reduced down to only the id and (if exists) pg fields. First of all, where would it be discussed as to whether this trim down is appropriate, and secondly, if it is, would this be a reasonable thing for a bot to do?Naraht (talk) 21:47, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Best to go to the village pump for proposals. I must admit that I'd oppose having a bot carry out your suggestion, since I strongly suspect that there are situations in Wikipedia where it would help to have such words highlighted (granted, they'd be few, but I'd be quite surprised if they don't exist), and bots can't tell when those situations exist.  I expect that you'll see little or no opposition to the idea of doing it manually, since normally we don't need to have those words highlighted.  Nyttend (talk) 01:37, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

How to edit
I should like to happen as a result of my editing the page on Kruskal-Szekeres coordinates. Apparently nothing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fronsdal (talk • contribs) 21:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't show any edits to Kruskal–Szekeres coordinates since October 2011. Is it possible that you clicked preview instead of save?Naraht (talk) 21:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)