Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 July 17

= July 17 =

whats happens when u get there
what happens when u are sentenced to more than 2 years for the first time and what are u aloud to bring in with you and how do u do it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.237.10.210 (talk) 00:09, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You should probably tell us which country you're talking about.


 * Note; this does not appear to be a request for legal advice. Prison regulations are not laws. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I disagree. Bringing in contraband could result in a longer prison sentence or other penalties.  OP should consult their lawyer.  RudolfRed (talk) 00:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * No, he said what are you allowed to bring in with you. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, and anyway, the person who wants to know this should ask at Reference desk/Humanities, as this page (here) is the wrong place for it. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:51, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

unwanted image
on the page wikipedia - John Milne - an unwanted image appeared from nowhere - how can it be removed - it is situated over edit links - preventing access Patrick.nott (talk) 01:11, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It's already been fixed. Dismas |(talk) 01:14, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

How to put inline references?
Shall the ref be put after a space or without any space? Which of the following is correct?
 * This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, [1] not for general knowledge questions.
 * This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia,[1] not for general knowledge questions.

The problem is that I have found in some well written articles the use of first type. Thank you. V ani s che nu mTalk 03:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC) modified on 03:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Generally the end of the sentence is best, no space is necessary. C T J F 8 3  03:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The second. Although I can't come up with a guideline that says it specifically right now. I know that WP:AWB changes it this way when possible though.   Dismas |(talk) 03:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your kind and immediate response. Such a situation can be found at the article catenane. V ani s che nu mTalk 03:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * It's at WP:CITEFOOT. I've removed two spaces from catenane - by hand, because AWB hasn't been taught to do this when the references use the Ref template. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Isn't it better to put the reference at the end of the phrase it supports, rather than after the comma that separates that phrase from the next? So I prefer
 * This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia[1], not for general knowledge questions.
 * to either of the above. Maproom (talk) 10:17, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:REFPUNC says it should go after the comma. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:42, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * So it does. I will try to get that right in future. Maproom (talk) 22:48, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much. This has got perfectly resolved. I will mark it as resolved then,

V ani s che nu mTalk 01:20, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Special page named as an article
Hello, its me again. I have just found out that on clicking Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:Help_desk, we are going to a new article project page, which is a sub article of the real page. But in the url it is in Special namespace. However it looks outside as if it was in an article project namespace. The cool thing is that it has got a talkpage and it goes to the talk page of main one. The same phenomenon occurs for talk page too! Is this only for me? Shall we report it? V ani s che nu mTalk 03:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't understand what you're describing. I see a list of pages that link to the Help Desk.  Are you seeing something different?  RudolfRed (talk) 04:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry that I was in a rush. I incorrectly named it as article page. If you click on the link on What links here from toolbox and go to that page you can see that the tab Project page is ON. (above the term Pages that link to "Wikipedia:Help desk") (If you were on your user page the tab User page would be present instead.) It virtually appears to be a sub page of the page Wikipedia:Help desk.


 * Since What links here is a special page, it should have been a Special page tab. Also, unlike special pages, it has a talk page. If you click on it, the talk page of Help desk will be reached. I will clarify this more elaborately, if you want. V ani s che nu mTalk 04:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to figure out what you mean but I'm stumped. Any page that you go to where you click what links here, the tab at the top points back to the original page, in whatever namespace it is in, and the talk page is to that page's talk page. So if you go to an article and click what links here the tab at the top is to the "Article" and the talk page goes to the article's talk page. All pages in the Wikipedia namespace are described as project pages but that is just a description. They're still in the Wikipedia namespace.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:45, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe this is a consequence of the fact that Special:WhatLinksHere is not its own page, but rather a certain way of viewing a page. Regardless, it is my understanding that Vanischenu is pointing out the discrepancy between the way the page tabs appear when visiting Special:WhatLinksHere vs. say Special:BrokenRedirects. I've uploaded an illustration to hopefully help the point across. BigNate37(T) 07:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Exactly. This was what I had been trying to explain. Thank you. (I am sorry for giving you misleading info). I just wondered why only what links here looked like that. V ani s che nu mTalk 08:12, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not the only page: Special:MovePage also acts this way. The reason I would think is because WhatLinksHere and MovePage are specific to a particular page so they could set it up that way (and it makes sense that they did doesn't it?) BrokenRedirects and PrefixIndex and ProtectedTitle etc. all are non-specific to a single page. However, there is some inconsistency in that there are other special pages that are specific to a single pages that don't do so.Fuhghettaboutit (talk) --12:02, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you all for being kind and having patience. Now this is explained. Thank you so much. And a special appreciation for BigNate37 for uploading the image. V ani s che nu mTalk 13:32, 17 July 2012 (UTC) Howeber I have got another thing to hang on and keep wondering :P. Of the two you have listed here, why one virtually appears to be a subset (the second red circle in the image) while the other does not? V ani s che nu mTalk  13:32, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * True but the whole scheme was not set up apparently to have perfect consistency; Wikipedia, in many respects, organically evolved with different developers all having their hands in the pie. Interestingly, while the protection interface does not manifest as a "special page", it too has the "← linked name of article " just below the article name.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:18, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. The explanation seems to be complete. I will mark it as resolved then,


 * V ani s che nu m<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 01:05, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki license
I work for a non-profit organization and the organization has planned to create manuals using mediawiki. Should we need a GNU free license to create the manuals? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beesfamily (talk • contribs) 10:06, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The software is available free under the GNU license but how you license the documents you create with the software is your choice - it doesn't affect the software license. Manuals for internal use in an organization would usually be fully copyrighted by the organization but if you want to share the manuals with other organizations you could consider one of the free licenses. GNU Free Document License might not be the most suitable for your purposes so take a look at Creative Commons license for the variety of options available under the CC system. Roger (talk) 10:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia preserving old aspect ratio of SVG image after update at Wiki Commons
Hello world,

I recently created and uploaded to Wiki Commons and used it in  this Wikipedia article.

After some additional editing of the SVG image - including a change of aspect ratio - I updated it at Wiki Commons, where it is being display properly. However on the preview page Wikipedia obviously still preserves the old aspect ratio and so shows the SVG image distorted: - actually the HTML defines the image size as width="800" height="566" while it should be 800*381.

Any idea on how to get the aspect ratio right? Is this a permanent bug or will a batchjob realize the change in aspect ratio as some point?

Thanks

--Cvdr (talk) 10:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I did some purging on both Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons, I hope it helped. You may need to clear your browser cache. Arcandam (talk) 12:18, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, this apparently has resolved the issue. The SVG file is now shown properly. --Cvdr (talk) 20:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Biography of Steve Abana from Solomon Islands
This statement as mentioned by the Writer Mr. Casper Luiramo is misleading and does not speak well of the person. "He then entered business, exporting cocoa, after making money during the height of the Solomon Islands conflicts by acting at a middleman for compensation claimants" He was never a middle man for compensation claimants as mentioned here. Infact he was a victim himself. He started off his businness before the ethnic tension, and his business picked up after he won a loan contract to buy off a small shipping service.He then expanded from there and venture into other businness opportunities and eventually into politics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.151.20.118 (talk) 12:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You should discuss your concerns on the Talk:Steve Abana page rather than here. The claims you posted must be supported by reliable sources and comply with the biography of living persons rules. Roger (talk) 12:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I see that after posting here, you then edited the article to remove the "middleman" statement. That's fine; any editor may remove anything that has no source, especially if it is possibly negative information about a living person. But, as Roger says, please take care not to add information yourself unless you can back it up with a reference to a reliable source. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I see that after posting here, you then edited the article to remove the "middleman" statement. That's fine; any editor may remove anything that has no source, especially if it is possibly negative information about a living person. But, as Roger says, please take care not to add information yourself unless you can back it up with a reference to a reliable source. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Looking for a specific copyright tag
Do we have a copyright tag for manga covers? We have a rationale template (Template:Non-free use rationale manga cover), but is there also a copyright tag? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Could Non-free book cover or Non-free magazine cover work? The listing, as far as I know, is at Category:Wikipedia non-free file copyright tags. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  12:45, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I am aware of those. I now see that it says at the bottom "Any of the following may be helpful for stating the rationale: Template:Book rationale, Template:Non-free use rationale book cover, Template:Manga rationale or Template:Non-free use rationale manga cover.", so I will use this one. Thanks Ryan. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Copyright vio ?
The page for Jordan Anderson has his now-famous letter both in image form (which I believe is public domain, due to age) and as a transcript, which I believe may be a copy vio. Can anyone check it out and confirm?--Chimino (talk) 14:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Whether or not it was copyvio I removed it. The transcription wouldn't be suitable for the encyclopedia article.  If it is PD, it should be added to Wikisource. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  14:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick response, Ryan. The article looks much better now.--Chimino (talk) 14:32, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

How do I report verbal abuse?
I was abused by a user at IP address 142.134.46.255. You can see the slander here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Altonbr#PTBO_Picture. I've deleted the info in my profile, but a record still exists. For privacy reasons, I'd like this user blocked and the history of my User page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Altonbr) erased. Please help. Altonbr (talk) 14:35, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You can add G7 to your user page and create a new one after that. It's an easier way to get all of the history deleted. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  14:41, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That would not be an appropriate use of CSD G7 as there is other legitimate talk page history that is not suitable for deletion. Monty  <sub style="color:#A3BFBF;">845  14:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes it would, he wants his user page history erased. It's much easier to request deletion and then recreate it.  Hopefully Primehunter or another help desk admin can perform the revdelete on the talk page. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  14:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I misread and thought you were talking about the user talk page history, yes G7 would be fine on the userpage. Monty  <sub style="color:#A3BFBF;">845  14:51, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * As for having the information removed from the page history, any admin is able to revision delete it. Admins do patrol this page, and one may act on your request here. If you want to make a separate request in case this one is missed, instructions for requesting the revision deletion can be found at WP:REVDEL. As for blocking the IP, we typically only block editors for recent conduct, the personal attack on your talk page is too stale to serve as the basis for a block. Monty  <sub style="color:#A3BFBF;">845  14:45, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I have RevisionDeleted it. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:39, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Method of citing TV and radio programmes and amending citations after insertion
I have two questions to ask.

1. The citation tool only provides for websites, newspapers, books and journals. How do you cite TV and radio programmes?

2. Can citations be ammended once inserted, where, for example, a page number, or other detail has been inadvertantly ommited? If so, how?Populotradit (talk) 14:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * See for more templates. See each template documentation for all of the parameters. ---—  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 17:31, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Question - Ohio
Hello, I am not computer savvy, so all this edit and all stuff confuses me greatly. I use ya'll lots for checking things out and I noticed that in the Article on "Ohio" that under the history dealing with the statehood, Eisenhower was listed as doing it, in 1803, Eisenhower was born, not much of a politician at that point, I think you may mean the guy in the picture to the right of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janismarie26 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * My understanding is that Eisenhower declared the 1st March 1803 as the date Ohio was admitted into the Union and he did this in 1953. At any rate, Eisenhower was born in 1890. Hope that cleared it up for you. Andie  ''  ▶(Candy)◀  15:08, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Custom CSS?
Hi! Recently, I noticed that my custom CSS that bolds/colors unread items on my Watchlist stopped working or taking effect - I then tried to add it to my vector css code, but it still didn't work. Any ideas? Thanks!  Theopolisme TALK 15:34, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The coding for bold seems to have changed. Try adding the code below. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  15:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Gorgeous, works like a charm- thanks a bunch!  Theopolisme TALK 15:47, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. Is it really that hard to turn this into a gadget?  I assume that whatever the gadget is would modify the CSS anyways. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  15:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The watchpage changes are also the subject of a discussion at the Village Pump: WP:VPT RudolfRed (talk) 17:24, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Personal Reference?
My page isn't being created because I don't have enough references siting my information. I have tons of reference websites supporting my work, but I also worked with the parent of the person I'm creating the page for, so I'm wondering how do I site a personal reference? Do I just put her mother's name or how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HelloStranger24 (talk • contribs) 16:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The short answer is that you can't. The information you provide has to be verifiable by other editors, so just listing the mother's name wouldn't help (though an interview with her conducted by a third party would be helpful). It may also be useful to read our conflict of interest policy. Andie  ''  ▶(Candy)◀  16:42, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Only published material can be referenced. Roger (talk) 16:44, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I can't find my page
Hello, Yesterday I open an account and a page, but I can't find the page. What is the problem? How can I see it? The name of the page is Arcangeles

Arcangeles (talk) 16:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Arcangeles, I believe you are looking for User:Arcangeles/sandbox. Just make sure you are aware of our conflict of interest policy. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  16:30, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately your username is in violation of the rules governing usernames, specifically the rule prohibiting usernames resembling those of organizations. Please change your username so that it does not represent any organisation. Only individuals acting in their personal capacity are allowed to edit Wikipedia. The procedure for changing your username is explained here. If you need more help don't hesitate to come back here. Roger (talk) 16:56, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

SAFEMODE
I cant get my computer to run except in safemode. Even when it gives you a choice of 3 different safemodes to start in & RUN WINDOWS NORMAL, I can click on run windows normal and it still boots in safemode & is very slow. Although it will perform in every program except play my music or let me view my pics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.126.182 (talk) 19:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, this is the help desk of Wikipedia, a free online encyclopedia built by volunteers from all over the world via the internet and this help desk is only for questions about using and editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing by clicking here and then posting your question / problem description again. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 19:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Reference hovertext
I just found that hovering over a footnote inside the article text triggers the display of a Reference tooltip. When had this been enabled? Did the activation of this feature result from this discussion? Where was a consensus reached to enable this by default for all users? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, at least I found out how to disable it

My preferences/Gadgets/Browsing (the bottom checkbox at that section)

Just in case this is useful for someone else who happens to stumble over this section. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:22, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I know there was a story the idea in a recent Signpost. See here for more details. Thanks for the tips on how to turn it off too. I personally like it, but it's good to know for those that dislike the feature. -Thibbs (talk) 00:20, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Question on my article that was on speedy delete
Hello, I had created an article on shawlsmith london, it is the only company to internationally produce and distribute scarves in the city of raleigh and the entire state of north carolina. The article was speedily deleted citing A7. THe facts that I have mentioned already signify the importance of shawlsmith london to the city and state of raleigh and were not included in the article. Their designs mix british sophistication with southern charm which also does not exists in any brand in the world. Each year they recruit many new interns from the south who are able to use their platform to become better leaders. None of this aformentioned information was in the original article. And I ask what more significance would the article need for it to be undeleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uamalik (talk • contribs) 20:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC) Uamalik (talk) 20:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What was missing was evidence that the company was notable. And indeed a Google search suggests that it is not - the first 30 hits for "shawlsmith london" included no third-party reference to it. You should also read the Wikipedia conflict of interest policy. Maproom (talk) 21:14, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

How about #9, its from celebritycafe.com if that's not third party what is? and numerous others which fall under "the first 30 hits" which are just online retailers which carry the brand. And the second page also falling within the first 30 hits is yacoubian your statement seems a bit biased because there are many other hits that are from thrid party companies that are not shawlsmith london. How about the notable fact that it is putting a small southern city on the map with accounts in major retail stores such as Neiman Marcus, Barney's etc. How much more notable does it have to be? Please advise as I have read the policies and spent a lot of time and effort on this article to be completely dismissed. For a person to learn about the city of Raleigh is this not something of notable value to them? In fact two separate publication sources thecharlotteobserver and wakeliving had published about shawlsmithlondon but those sources where not given because the material was either not used or was in print and not online source. I happen to know of the ceo becuase of his involvement in my surrounding community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uamalik (talk • contribs) 21:47, 17 July 2012 (UTC) Uamalik (talk) 22:03, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The notability guideline for businesses and organisations is at WP:ORG. The general notability guideline is at WP:GNG.  The company must satisfy one or the other to merit an encyclopaedia article here.  Celebritycafe.com appears to be a listings site.  Listings are not "significant independent coverage", and nor is the fact that various websites offer the copmany's products for sale.  Selling things made in a small city to big national shops does not make a company notable.  What you need is articles about this company.  Newspaper or magazine articles, tv coverage.  Real news or features, not advertising copy or press releases, which verify the company's achievements in terms of the criteria in the notability guidelines.  This will provide you with the evidence of notability you need.  -  Ka renjc 22:23, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Karenjc for that simple yet informative answer. The company had articles written about it in a couple news affiliates that are in print and I was not able to get their information which is why I did not use them as a source. I will rewrite this article when I do. Thanks once more for the best answer I had gotten yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uamalik (talk • contribs) — Uamalik (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note also that peacock words like "Their designs mix british sophistication with southern charm which also does not exists in any brand in the world", "they recruit many new interns from the south who are able to use their platform to become better leaders" and "it is putting a small southern city on the map with accounts in major retail stores such as Neiman Marcus, Barney's etc." are likely to get the entire thing deleted as shameless advertising. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  16:20, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Do bear in mind that just finding the coverage isn't enough - the sources must be independent, reliable and credible, and the coverage must confirm the assertions you make in the article as to how the company satisfies the notability criteria.  And once you've established notability, you then have to ensure the article is neutral. The sentences Orange Mike quotes belong in a publicity brochure, not an encyclopaedia article, and would certainly get the article flagged as WP:SPAM.  Just an added caveat - you seem to have a good knowledge of the company, and to care about whether or not it is has an article on Wikipedia.  Have you read WP:LUC?  Regards -  Ka renjc 20:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Spin Along
I was on spin along in the 60s with my youth club how do I see a programe at that time please ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.3.23 (talk) 21:43, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello. This page is for questions about using and editing Wikipedia. Knowledge questions should be asked at the reference desk. I think this one probably belongs at the miscellaneous section. That being said, your question is not very clear, at least to me, and a quick search did not reveal what you are referring to. So I suggest that when you ask at the reference desk, you try provide some clarifying detail: what was "spin along" and where geographically was this programme offered? Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * A record of the program may no longer exist. Many of those programs were produced by local TV stations, many weren't preserved on video tape or kinescope, and even if they were, they may have been wiped or erased as the station may have recycled or reused the recording media.  There is a huge part of television history before about 1970 where there is no known record.  -- Jayron  32  21:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

NRHP articles & references
Hi, I have a question about NRHP articles and another question for references. I've done a fair amount of poking around Wikipdeia, and I've discovered the "edit", "history", and other buttons and places and policies like the "manual of style", but it seems like the manual of style is a general guideline, and doesn't have many specifics for the topic I want to write about, NRHP. How should that type of article be designed / written? My second question is how do references work and how should they be used? I clicked the edit section button for a references section on an article, and all it had was "" - but the main article edit button shows things within the same type of 🇦🇩 that match the references, between ref tags formatted like HTML. Can this be explained? Thanks TheSilentJay (talk) 21:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Regarding the references part of your question, I think your best bet is to start at Referencing for beginners. Regarding not seeing the citations when you clicked edit on the references section, there is a template which is dedicated to explaining just this matter. Please see .--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * See WP:NRHP, which has some guidelines. Nyttend (talk) 02:41, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

pronunciation button isn't working
Greetings, I've always been able use the pronunciation button to hear how a word is pronouced. But now it has stopped working? Its not a sound card problem. I'm running Win XP. Can you tell me why this isn't working anymore? And what I can do to get it back working? Thanks John Hailey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.117.148.58 (talk) 22:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Do not provide your email address or any other contact information. Answers will be provided on this page only. BigNate37(T) 22:32, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * On which page is it not working? There may be a problem with that page or the sound file that it refers to. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:05, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

How to sort My Watchlist
I was wondering if Wikipedia had plans in the works to facilitate the sorting of articles on my watchlist. For example, I would like to see them sorted by "date added," "category/genre," and other possible configurations, besides the standard alphabetization. Omnispo (talk) 22:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)Omnispo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omnispo (talk • contribs) 22:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It's an interesting idea, although it might be hard to define sort schemes for things like "category/genre". I think the best place to go with the suggestion is to post it at Wikipedia's Technical Village Pump where editors regularly discuss suggestions on improving the technical aspects of the website including sorting schemes. -Thibbs (talk) 00:30, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Information
I was trying to find out some information on a product called Kand/ice distributed in Boise,ID. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.197.217.113 (talk) 22:56, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. RudolfRed (talk) 22:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Private persons' name stated in article without consent
Dear Sir/Madame,

I fear that my name and identity has been stated in a Wiki entry, which was deleted in 2008, yet is still visible and reference by your logs and by "wikigrains". What is the process to get this false information permanently deleted?

Thank you, M — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erika C 57 (talk • contribs) 23:06, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you tell us what article this was in? Dismas |(talk) 23:07, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that you should email Oversight about this. That might not be the right thing to do, but I'm pretty sure that it is. To email Oversight, click here. :) Ha  dg  er  23:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Veilleux and all associated logs should be deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erika C 57 (talk • contribs) 23:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't understand. That article is completely deleted.  Are you sure you are seeing the article at Wikipedia itself and not at a mirror site?  Because the article is deleted, and has no publicly accessible history or versions here at Wikipedia.  -- Jayron  32  23:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You might try contacting the owner of http://www.wikigrain.org (a website completely unaffiliated with Wikipedia) and over which we have no control. There is a feedback form at this link. You can also view details about the ownership and other information at this site. It may be difficult as the owner is located in Moscow, Russia but there is an email address provided for him.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * We have no control over WikiGrain at www.wikigrain.org. It is an independent website not run by the Wikimedia Foundation which runs Wikipedia. I see they have a feedback page. You could try using that but I don't know how they treat requests for removal. As http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Veilleux shows, the page was deleted from Wikipedia. The url http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Veilleux gives a HTTP 404 Not Found error message to visitors and should not be indexed by any search engines. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I could probably help out Wikipedia. I've got language skills, am fluent in Spanish and French. Where's a good place to get started?
--2.97.77.60 (talk) 23:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If you're fluent in Spanish and French, you can also help out at the Spanish Wikipedia and the French Wikipedia. For how you can help, you can edit a page that you think needs to be fixed or needs more content and add content to it. I'll leave a welcome message on your talk page so that you know the guidelines and policies of Wikipedia. :) Ha  dg  er  23:22, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You could also translate pages from one language to another. See WP:TRANSLATE.  Dismas |(talk) 23:26, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * (e/c) That would be great; we can use the help. It's not required but you might first sign up for an account which has some benefits over editing by your IP address (it takes but a few seconds and is anonymous) and go through the Tutorial to learn some basics of editing. For translation, see generally Translation, and specifically for Spanish and French, see: Category:Articles needing translation from Spanish Wikipedia and Category:Articles needing translation from French Wikipedia. When you click on one of the articles in these categories, you'll be taken to the English Wikipedia article and you should see at the top a notice about translation with a link to the Spanish or French language Wikipedia article that has the text that the English version could benefit from. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:32, 17 July 2012 (UTC)