Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 July 2

= July 2 =

Category history
Is there a way to find the number of articles that were in a category at an earlier date/time? —Torchiest talkedits 01:17, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You could try asking at Village pump (technical), but I don't think there's any easy way to do this. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Improper IP Address..?
I got a notification banner upon visiting Wikipedia stating that I had edited an article improperly and it had been reverted to its original content due to being considered vandalism.

Now, this is all well and good, but I have no idea what 'City of Ember' is, nor have I ever visited its page, short of just clicking on it today to find out what it is that I was supposed to have edited. In fact, my area of the country has not had power for over 48 hours (just got it turned back on today around 5 pm EST), so I have not been on the internet, much less Wikipedia, in days; nor has anyone been able to use my laptop for said edit.

My questions are: does this happen frequently? Why was my IP address credited for this when I did not do it? If, for some reason, this continues to happen, will my IP address be suspended from USING Wikipedia, as well as editing (which I do not do)? If it does continue to happen, is there any way to prove that I am not in fact the one responsible?

I have never edited this site, via IP address or registered account, but I am a frequent user. I love and appreciate this site, hence my concern as to why this may have happened. Any input is appreciated.

I apologize if this is not the proper place to post this concern. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.9.76 (talk) 02:25, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If your IP is used by other people (such as an organization) or if it is a dynamic IP, then someone else did the vandalism. How often this happens depends on a number of factors, such as how many people use the IP, how many of those people visit Wikipedia to vandalize. The best way to avoid getting such messages is to register. You don't have to register to edit, but if you're registered then no one else can use your account and you will not receive such messages needlessly. Registration is free, and it can be done in about one minute. Cresix (talk) 02:34, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! :) I may register now, just to make sure it doesn't happen again. Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.9.76 (talk).


 * I know you got an orange banner saying "You have new messages" but the message at User talk:96.248.9.76 is actually dated 11 December 2011 and was in response to this edit the same minute. See also the box at the bottom of User talk:96.248.9.76. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:53, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Inclusion of new Article
Hello ;

I want wikipedia to include the information about the insitue called ' Indian Insitute of Cost and Management Studies and Research, Pune '

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.90.95 (talk) 03:31, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia. You should first check that the subject is notable.  If you want to create the article yourself, follow the tips at WP:YFA, or you can make a request at WP:RA and explain in your request why the subject is notable.  RudolfRed (talk) 03:40, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Bio seems more of an article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dutchsinse

Seems to be less of a user bio than a platform for pseudoscience.
 * Nominated for deletion. Ruslik_ Zero 09:04, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

PROBABILITY
Scores on an examination are assumed to be normally distributed with mean 78 and variance 36. 1)Now suppose that students scoring the 10% of this distribution are to receive an A grade.

What is the minimum score a student must achieve to earn an A grade?

2)What must be the cut-off point for passing the examination if the examiner wants only the top 28.1% of all scores to be passing?

3)If it is known that a student's score exceeds 72,

what is the probability that his/her score exceeds 84? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghmoleleki (talk • contribs) 10:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol_move_vote.svg Have you tried the section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [ click here] . I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:02, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * However, they will not do your homework for you. If this is homework, then you need to show that you have tried to answer it and explain where you are stuck if you want any help from the Wikipedia Reference Desk. --ColinFine (talk) 12:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

How do I feature Keys Hotels on wikipedia
How do I feature Keys Hotels on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.97.63.245 (talk) 11:53, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Firstly the company would have to comply with the notability criteria for organisations. Secondly, if you are in any way connected to the company you must take careful note of the conflict of interest guidelines. If you are certain that both preconditions are met you should follow the Articles for creation process. Roger (talk) 12:06, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Article has Stopped Appearing in Google Searches
When my article was first created, it appeared almost immediately when I put in a google search for "Colin Ratushniak Wikipedia". Not suddenly today it has stopped bringing up the page at all in the search results. The page still comes up when I search Wikipedia for the name Colin Ratushniak but nothing at all is coming up on google. The page still appears to be live and I can find no messages about any issues. Can you let me know why this might have happened around Google? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karendawes (talk • contribs) 12:47, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has no control over, or special knowledge of, anything that Google does. You'll have to ask Google. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 12:52, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Colin Ratushniak appears in Google searches now. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Company Name Change
The name of my company has changed. However, the description in the article is still fine. How can I simply change the title as it appears on the page from "Sunbridge College" to "Sunbridge Institute"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.alan.kessler (talk • contribs) 15:14, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * See WP:MOVE. RudolfRed (talk) 17:33, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Abbreviations
Edits at Foundation degree and FD. The Foundation degree, a qualification in the UK, is fairly often referred to as "FD". I get 45,000 ghits. More often it is the specific degree in the abbreviation, FDA (foundation degree in Arts), FDSc (Foundation degree in science), etc. But still there is for example http://www.higherskillswales.co.uk/fdp/ from the Welsh government. An editor seems to want to clean up the disambiguation page FD and has put cn tags on the abbreviations of this article and other articles whose titles abbreviate to FD. I could add the Welsh page, but really would prefer not to add a citation at that point in the lead for such an uncontroversial statement. Is it necessary to clean up like that? I really do think that someone looking for information about foundation degrees might search on FD. And surely the list in the disambiguation page can be quite long without bewildering the reader? Itsmejudith (talk) 15:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * In general the threshold for inclusion on Wikipedia is verifiability. This doesn't mean that every statement has to be verified with a source, but it does mean that the statement should be capable of verification. Usually noncontroversial material can be added without strict sourcing, but when material is challenged by another editor, the challenge is resolved by the reliable sources. In this case it sounds like another editor has challenged the claim that Foundation Degree and several other terms are commonly abbreviated as "FD" so it would probably be best to add a reliable source. If this is a case where an editor is using the rules to cause a disruption to Wikipedia then none of what I just said applies, but unless there's clear evidence that these are badfaith challenges, you should add a ref as requested. -Thibbs (talk) 18:21, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note also that the positioning of the source is a matter of editorial discretion and if a consensus can be established on the talk page that the source is superfluous or that it negatively impacts the article, then you can forgo it. -Thibbs (talk) 18:28, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation my provide advice as well.--Canoe1967 (talk) 11:13, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Bill Williams -game designer - for Alley Cat video game-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Williams_(game_designer)
This is the wrong Bill Williams!! My father Bill Williams Jr. Who worked for IBM was the designer of the game. He is still very much ALIVE. I had edited the wiki page for this as well as added a photo however, today I got a e-mail from Wiki stating that they were going to switch the page back.

I would like to be able to change this information to the right data. You are handing out incorrect information about my father and I would like to know why I can not update his information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lillywaters (talk • contribs) 16:55, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You need to be cautious editing the page, since you have a conflict-of-interest. Read the guidelines at WP:COI.  It is usually better to suggest changes on the article's talk page instead.  RudolfRed (talk) 17:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * However, if you could provide a link to a reliable source at Talk:Bill Williams (game designer) confirming that he is still alive, someone will probably remove the incorrect information. For information about what is considered a reliable source, read WP:RS. Thanks. Cresix (talk) 17:59, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I entered it at the BLP board. There are no sources at all for birth or death dates. I haven't removed them as it seems when they are it is reverted.--Canoe1967 (talk) 11:27, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Help with Infobox on Fiserv Page
I'm working to update the Fiserv wiki page. As of this weekend the Infobox is not showing up correctly. I reviewed the text and everything seems to be in order, it should be showing up in the correct format. Please advise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiserv

Thanks, Kabursch (talk) 19:53, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I will have a look, and please note that you have a conflict of interest for this article. Athleek  123  20:06, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It has something to do with the "equity" parameter. If you blank that it shows up OK. Cresix (talk) 20:15, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed and removed COI material Athleek  123  20:21, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Lucas Oil Stadium
A friend and I have been trying to update the Lucas Oil Stadium page to reflect Moore Engineers as the engineer of record under the service engineer category, but it has been removed from the page. Moore Engineers was the engineering firm leading up the service side of the build as can be seen/proven on our website under the facts & information drop down http://www.lucasoilstadium.com/about.aspx. If you would like me to send you more reference material I can do that. Our stadium wouldn't be the quality it is today if it weren't for Moore Engineers continued service, that is why I asked them to put themselves on our Wiki page. I did not realize that would cause a conflict of interest to have them post it themselves. Sorry for the confusion. Roserunner12xc (talk) 21:07, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

✅--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:27, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Canoe1967 I appreciate it but you've put the wrong engineering firm. Walter P Moore Engineers and Consultants is a separate company from Moore Engineers. They both contributed to this build but Walter P Moore Engineers and Consultants were strictly structural engineers and Moore Engineers did the service work to the building. If you could correct that I would appreciate it. Roserunner12xc (talk) 12:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ooops, sorry. It is ✅ x2 now.--Canoe1967 (talk) 13:58, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Page: Colin Ratushniak
I am a complete novice at Wikipedia, this is my first article. I have just noticed that the external links to you tube videos that I included in the page and also the website that links to the subject's support site, have all been deleted. The website in particular is relevant as a source of further information and was used because the subject's website is currently under construction. We asked and received from him permission to use our website address as an alternative until his was up and running again. Also, the article was accepted and graded with the external links and website link in with it. Can somebody explain why the external links and the website links have now all been deleted? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karendawes (talk • contribs) 22:59, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Links to Youtube and to fansites are hardly ever acceptable in Wikipedia, and external links (other than citations to reliable sources) should only appear in a separate "External links" section.When his website is up, the article may have a link to it in an 'External links' section or perhaps an infobox, but that should normally be the limit of links to it. See WP:External links for the various policies. --ColinFine (talk) 23:21, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You're talking about my edit |here, moving the article more in keeping with Manual of style; expect to see further de-capitalizations, especially in section headings, and other minor changes, as other editors review and edit it. I've added the basic categories and stub tag, and may work further on it later this week. Dru of Id (talk) 00:35, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

The website link was to his official fanpage which contains further sources of information about his background, show history, and a more substantial biography all of which reinforces and builds on the information on this Wiki page. In the absence of his own website, which would carry the same information, he agreed that we could use this site to direct people to further sources of information. Do I have any route of appeal in relation to the website inclusion, if only to include it in the infobox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karendawes (talk • contribs) 06:16, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Fansites are notoriously not reliable sources. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  12:46, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

On Kushiro Wetland
I have written Kushiro Wetland, but someone redirected it to Kushiro Shitsugen National Park. So, I cannot read my article. Although my article is the translation of Japanese Wikipedia, my article is much better than Kushiro Shitsugen National Park, in my opinion. I would like to see my article. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 23:38, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Since your article covers the same ground as an existing article, User:DAJF appears to have decided there was no need for a new article and just redirected to the old one. Your text is still visible by
 * Going to Kushiro Wetland
 * Picking the 'redirected from' link at the top
 * Picking the History tab
 * Picking one of your versions.
 * Since there is an existing article, you would be better to edit that than create a new one. But I observe that your version of the article has no inline references whatever, so by the standards of English Wikipedia it is a greatly inferior article to the existing Kushiro Shitsugen National Park.
 * I urge you to open a discussion on Talk:Kushiro Shitsugen National Park with User:DAJF and others, and agree on the way forward, which will probably involve manually merging the existing article and your translated text. --ColinFine (talk) 10:23, 3 July 2012 (UTC)