Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 July 25

= July 25 =

Redirects for recent template
I recently created a clickable button template. You can see it  It takes a bit to type out Clickable button so can someone help me think of redirects? In addition, do template redirects work the same way as article redirects or do you need to set them up to accept parameters. Ryan Vesey Review me!  02:21, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm also curious as to what is causing the template to appear on its own line. That shouldn't be occurring. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  02:23, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about the new line in your post, but it works here, and on the template's doc page. Example:  RudolfRed (talk) 03:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * With CB taken, Template:CLB seems obvious, and possibly Template:clickb.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:31, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

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 * A template redirect looks just like an article redirect. See, for example, citeweb. I don't know enough HTML to solve the formatting problem; it seems to be tied up with the indentation. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:49, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well thanks for helping me figure out the problem. I wonder what the solution could be, I'll tweak it some in my sandbox when I get the chance.  I crated the two redirects mentioned by Fuhghettaboutit. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  12:47, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I seem to have fixed it, thanks to Redrose64's pointer at VPT. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:15, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Ryan Vesey Review me!  16:46, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Reference Desk and the need for further contact.....
Every now and then, i find myself in a situation where i can help someone, or they could help me, in a way that personal contact and continuing of the help privately is best. For example, if i need help with a program, and i don't want to share my code to everyone on wikipedia, or perhaps someone needs some functionality on their Windows PC and I know i can write a fast program to do what they need (It would be best to be able to email them the program directly).

I know that in general, Wikipedia advises against posting contact info directly on the reference desk. This makes a ton of sense, because any person viewing the page could use the information to do bad things like scrape up a little bulk email list for various spam.

Is there any nice way to trade contact info with another poster, in a way that doesnt put either party at risk, and is in line with any other wikipedia rules regarding such thing?

Thanks

172.130.252.94 (talk) 02:44, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that you have to be logged in to use this, but if a user allows people to email him or her in his or her preferences, you can email them by going to the page "Special:EmailUser/(Username)", where "(Username)" would be the username of the person whom you want to email. :) Ha  dg  er  02:46, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, that might be worth looking into.... just for clarity, is it en.wikipedia.org/Special:EmailUser/Username ? I just add what you suggested to the end of the root URL?

172.130.252.94 (talk) 02:57, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser Is where you need to go.  hajat vrc  @ 03:01, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Insured Business
I am trying to find out who is the insurance carrier on a local business.

Terie Smith — Preceding unsigned comment added by TerieSm (talk • contribs) 03:13, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * This is the help desk for how to use Wikipedia. You can try the reference desk, someone there might be able to point to you a resource.  If you ask there, be sure to specify what "local" means, since Wikipedia is viewed in many different localities.  RudolfRed (talk) 03:29, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Checkuser
Is there a noticeboard besides the sockpuppet one? I just reported an IP and a user to the vandalism board WP:AIV. Two edits each, but very similar. Not worth a sock entry because they have only done the four edits total.--Canoe1967 (talk) 05:10, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

How do I get the article I just completed uploaded onto WIKIPEDIA ??
Please help

How do I get my article which I just created, uploaded onto Wikipedia? I have just spent several hours researching and writing the life story of one of Australia's greatest automotive journalists and historians, Barry Lake, and I'd like to upload it asap. Thanks.

Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wannaberacer (talk • contribs) 05:15, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The article at WP:YFA should help you. RudolfRed (talk) 05:16, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You already did put it at Wikipedia. It is located at your userpage, located at User:Wannaberacer.  -- Jayron  32  05:18, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I think by "upload" (to take offline data and transfer to the Internet) you meant possibly to place the article in the main part of the encyclopedia where articles reside. When a proposed article is created as a user subpage, and in this case on your userpage directly as noted and linked above, it reaches the main part of the encyclopedia by being moved there. You cannot move a page yet because you are not yet autoconfirmed, a restriction that is passed when your account is more than four days old and has made at least ten edits. You could request that it be moved for you but the proposed article is not yet ready for a mainspace appearance. The main problems are the laudatory tone (see neutral point of view for the main policy on this) and most significantly, its lack of reliable, independent, secondary sources used for citations that both show notability and verify the information content. A simple Google Books search indicates those sources do exist for this subject, but they need to be added.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:23, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I've moved it to User:Wannaberacer/sandbox, since it is not about you, but rather is a sandbox draft of an article (and I'll echo the criticisms above). -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  13:37, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I can go through the draft and tag specific problems for you if you'd like, just let me know. Roger (talk) 13:52, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

File:SarahGordonDeath.JPG
Hi, I believe that this file File:SarahGordonDeath.JPG need to be reduced.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 05:59, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The file information says it is low resolution. I think it's fine as it is. Floating Boat   (the editor formerly known as AndieM)  06:13, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The claim of low resolution is made manually by an editor. I don't agree and have reduced it from 576 × 896 to 220 × 342. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:27, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I didn't know that. I guess you learn something new every day! Thank you PrimeHunter. Floating Boat   (the editor formerly known as AndieM)  09:37, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Resolution is not the same thing as size. Roger (talk) 13:56, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Trying to nominate an article for GA
Hi there. I'm trying to nominate an album article I've worked on extensively, The Concert for Bangladesh, but I'm not sure I've copied in the correct text on the talk page − here. I'm going on how the page currently looks (i.e. there's no GA nom banner coming up, just my incongruous-looking text). Can you help, is there something I'm doing wrong perhaps? Many thanks JG66 (talk) 05:59, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey JG66 - try replacing the "pipe" with a full colon ( Should work.  The Interior  (Talk) 06:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I can see the nomination banner just fine. However, I got rid of your signature, which was just below the banner. Floating Boat   (the editor formerly known as AndieM)  06:16, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) You needed a colon insteaid of a pipe after subst. I fixed it for you, but I didn't realize/remember that it would say I nominated it. You should probably fix that up with your information/signature. - Purplewowies (talk) 06:18, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The nominee must have misplaced his signature - I got rid of it. Floating Boat   (the editor formerly known as AndieM)  06:22, 25 July 2012 (UTC) (edit: fixed.)


 * Wait - are you a co-nominee with Purplewowies? S/He made this edit that fixed it.  Floating Boat   (the editor formerly known as AndieM)  06:20, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * No, I was just trying to fix the problem and forgot the template did that. - Purplewowies (talk) 06:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm the nominee! Thanks to you both/all anyway. It does appear to be fixed now. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 06:34, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Trying to help
This user has created an article on Devita Saraf. There are multiple problems with the article, some of them with references and some with the way it is written. He keeps asking me to remove the tags at the top saying '[I] have given reference to all the statements' (sic) even though I told him not all the problems are with the sources (phrased differently). Although I am an Indian myself and can (kind of) understand what he is trying to say, I am starting to get frustrated because he posts the same thing every time I edit the article and I don't know what to do or where to take it now. If any uninvolved users want to help, you are free to do so. Floating Boat  (the editor formerly known as AndieM)  08:27, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Re submission
Hi

Please can someone tell me how to resubmit an article for editing.

My article was initially rejected and I have made the changes asked of me and previewed and saved.

However, I haven't received the normal notification that I have submitted it again.

Can you please talk me through how I can find my edited article and secondly how I can find out when its on the editing list again.

Cheers Tennisbuff12345 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tennisbuff12345 (talk • contribs) 14:29, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Your draft is at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/John Gledden.--ukexpat (talk) 17:35, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Style Guide for Scientific Articles
Is there a style guide (as have all the majir scientific journals) for wiki scientific articles? In particular the use of SI units. A classic example is use the of kcals as opposed to the SI kJ. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.50.222 (talk) 14:36, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * We do have a style guide, which we call the Manual of Style or MoS for short and we use it for all articles, not just science. About the SI units, the guideline on units of measurement says one can "use only SI units and non-SI units officially accepted for use with the SI." Hope this helps! Floating Boat   A boat that can float!  14:59, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Editing references
There is an article that has a list of references some of which are now broken links. I would like to supply the correct links but when I click edit for the Reference section, all I see is: Reflist

How do I access the references so that I can correct them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.73.224.162 (talk • contribs)
 * Each reference is located in the text where the reference number appears; if it appears more than once with the a b c string, it is in the text only once, normally but not always at a. Dru of Id (talk) 17:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello
I was just wondering if it would be possible to copy enwp stuff to simple wiki and simply make it simpler. I would save hours of writing.TheAnnoymousUser (talk) 18:46, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, the few articles I've translated to Simple English (which does have rules to how it's written) took days/weeks to translate and still aren't perfect. Let me see if I can fetch some links on how to properly translate to simple. If you just copy without doing anything to the article, it will be deleted. - Purplewowies (talk) 19:00, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I know how simple works, been there for 1 month.TheAnnoymousUser (talk) 19:03, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well... then... I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. As for the links I said I would fetch: simple:Wikipedia:How to copy from another Wikipedia and simple:Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages. - Purplewowies (talk) 19:15, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * See Reusing Wikipedia content. Be sure to give attribution (include which article, and when it was copied or what version of the article it was). RJFJR (talk) 20:12, 25 July 2012 (UTC)  (Using the permanent link, from the toolbar at left, in the edit summary would accurately indicate which version of the article was used.) RJFJR (talk) 20:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Anarchy
I'm afraid i've exceeded 3RR. Someone please review the last change and, if you feel it warrants reverting, do so. Cheers ~ benzband  ( talk ) 19:17, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I've reverted and warned them, since they're close to exceeding 3RR themselves. - Purplewowies (talk) 19:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * They have, if you count the IP ☺ benzband  ( talk ) 19:29, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Now they have even without the IP. And their edit summary kinda made me feel uncomfortable. - Purplewowies (talk) 19:32, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

How to upload image?
Hi everyone! I'm working on my first article, and I have no idea how to successfully upload an image to my article. The image is a picture of a movie poster I took from the production company I work for. I am helping them make a Wikipedia page for their new film but I cannot figure out how to get an image working. I've checked out some of the endless tutorials on Wikipedia but they are extremely confusing. Can you please help? Robertlp202 (talk) 19:19, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You need to upload the image (preferably to Wikimedia Commons) and then you can include it in the article. But you must make sure that the copyright holder specifically licenses it using one of the licences acceptable to Wikipedia. Simply giving permission for Wikipedia to use it is not adequate.
 * See WP:Picture tutorial.
 * If you work for the production company, then you should read WP:conflict of interest before you do anything further. --ColinFine (talk) 19:43, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Wright USA
I don't quite understand why our submission was declined. I have seen numerous other Wikipedia pages with questionable content that were at least conditionally approved. We're a very small company (i.e., less than 20 employees). And, we've been privately held since our incpetion. Based on this information, could someone please review our submission again in light of this inofrmation. Thanks.FW706 (talk) 20:02, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Each of the rejections at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Wright USA, and each of the notices on your talk page, gives the reason, with abundant links to pages which explain in detail. Put briefly, your article has only three references, two of which appear to be independent, but are not substantial discussions of the company. WP:GNG and WP:ORG both make it clear that Wikipedia articles must be about subjects which have already been discussed substantially in reliable independent organs, and that the articles themselves must make this clear.
 * In addition, you need to read our policies on editing with a conflict of interest, and on sharing user accounts. --ColinFine (talk) 18:21, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Image use question
What is our policy on using images like the one on Haim Megrelashvili? It is of such a low quality that I don't feel like it accurately represents the subject. Ryan Vesey Review me!  20:11, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know about policy, but common sense suggests that such poor out-of-focus images should not be used. I have removed it. Maproom (talk) 22:49, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, the question came up on commons. I'm actually arguing for deletion as copyvio anyways. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  22:51, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Totally agree with this. Better to have no image than one that bad. From Manual of Style/Images: " " They don't buy this argument at Commons though, at least as to deletion, or at least they didn't here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:53, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Does commons have its own MOS that could be referred to? RudolfRed (talk) 23:02, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope. The start of the discussion began with 3 keeps based on the fact that it was used on 4 wikis or so.  Usage trumps whether the image is in scope.  I think that's a good thing to decide if it is in use, let the relevant wikis make their own decisions.  In any case, I still think it is copyvio so it will probably be deleted for that. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  23:37, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Accidental created page
Hi. I meant to submit an article for creation, but I apparently created the article without submitting it on my own. The one that I submitted is better (at least I think so), so I was hoping you could delete the other one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Harman. Thanks. And just to be clear both were written by me. --Ravens freak0624 (talk) 20:29, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Your blanking of the article nominated it for speedy deletion. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:33, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Request to Add a new article/ Chapter
I am founding Editor-in-Chief of Journal of Comparative Social Welfare (1985-2011). I would like to add a brief Ch on "COMPARATIVE SOCIAL WELFARE". Please authorize and HELP! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dialog.mohan1 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * If it's to add a section to an existing article, just be bold and add it in, making sure to cite reliable sources. If you want to create a new article, See WP:YFA.  You don't need special permission, anyone may edit Wikipedia. RudolfRed (talk) 22:56, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you proposing an article on the concept of comparative social welfare, or one on Journal of Comparative Social Welfare? Because in the latter case, you've got a serious conflict of interest and should probably stay well away from the topic. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  15:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

sesil karatantcheva
We are simply trying to correct false information on the Sesil Karatantcheva biography page. She IS NOT engaged, and only want the page to reflect her correct current status. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.131.153 (talk) 23:10, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have removed the fact you added but I have not replaced back the prior unsupported claim either. I challenge the veracity of both. Until such time as the facts about her engagement, or lack thereof, are cited through an inline citation to a reliable source, they cannot properly be added back. See WP:BURDEN. Meanwhile, I question whether it would be proper, even if sourceable, to include such a statement stating that someone has "never been engaged" unless something particular about the personal biography renders this somehow of specific relevance.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:22, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Also: who is the "we" in question? -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  15:25, 26 July 2012 (UTC)