Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 July 9

= July 9 =

"Former" in front of titles
Part 2: The actual article involved was slightly different, in that Bush was the recipient of a letter, not the signor of a treaty. Here's the actual example:

In Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, there was a section reading:
 * "&#x5B;in 2003&#x5D;, the then-crown prince Abdullah wrote a letter to U.S. President George W. Bush..."

In 2012, an editor changed this to:
 * "&#x5B;in 2003&#x5D;, the then-crown prince Abdullah wrote a letter to former U.S. President George W. Bush..."

Is this edit:
 * A) Incorrect – The presence of former is confusing, and could either mean either he is now (when?) out of office or was out of office already at the time of the letter (which would be wrong in this case).
 * B) Correct – Do we have to change all instances of titles when people get voted out of office? This seems like an awful lot of work, and might be better accomplished by selective transclusion so it can be changed in one place only. I certainly haven't seen evidence of this.
 * C) Unnecessary – Not incorrect, not necessary. We don't care about the ambiguity introduced, but don't want to run around inserting former everywhere.

I again vote "A" because he was President at the time of the letter, and that time is explicitly stated. I would vote "B" if the article were about something that occurred after his term of office. —&#91; Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 03:09, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think "Former" should ever be used in front of President. If we are talking about things done as President then it should say President. If it was done before or after he was President then it should either use a title that is appropriate for the time period, Senator Kennedy, General Eisenhower, Chief Justice Taft or if they don't hold a title at the time just use the last name as we do in other biographies.  GB fan 03:23, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Why don't you use something like "the then president" instead of "the former president"? Roshan (talk) 07:18, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just say "Crown-prince Abdullah" and "President Bush" because that is their correct titles for the time. Roger (talk) 10:29, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Licensing question
I uploaded a photo produced in a sports-card format by USRowing. It has no copyright symbol on it and is freely distributed. Nonetheless I got the permission of the executive director of the organization to post it on the relative Wikipedia site. However I can find no place where I can enter that fact that it is posted with permission (and of course it is flagged for removal). How can I proceed to indicate permission received? Thanks DRPeterJDavies (talk) 02:53, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You'll need to send a copy of the permission to the good folks at WP:OTRS. Dismas |(talk) 03:14, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * People usually give one of these email addresses (I forget what formatting is normally used on the help desk): permissions-commons at wikimedia.org or permissions-en at wikimedia.org.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 17:41, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Template to convert 20 GBP into U.S dollars
Is there a template that converts between Pound sterling GBP and U.S. Dollars for a given date? and to convert £1 million into U.S. dollars? -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 03:42, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't find one; there is a comment at Template:Inflation/doc saying that the feature is "planned", but that was four years ago. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:56, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Warfaze: Recreating a deleted article
The article on Warfaze has come to my notice recently. Its been speedy deleted 4 times already on grounds of A7 (group), G11 and G12. I believe, it was all because the article was created each time by inexperienced editors who failed to establish notability or understand copyright laws. I have taken a look and found that the subject (a Bangladeshi rock band) is part of Om Gupta's Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh and The Garland Encyclopedia of World Music (including the article by G Booth on "Popular artists and their audiences" - can't access that one - which was cited by Martin Clayton in "Rock to Raga: the many lives of the Indian guitar", has quite a large number specific articles discussing the subject, its work or its members on The Daily Star, Bangladesh (check: this, this, this or the google site serach result), and other sources (check: this, this, this or the 414,000 results google hits. By policies and guidelines this looks very much a subject that can have an article, of course, written and referenced properly.

But, somehow I can't recreate it. May be its edit protected or something. How can I create the article? Aditya (talk • contribs) 04:14, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was salted from recreation because it had been started in these various poor forms multiple times. I've unprotected it now. Please do create it with reliable sources included, cited through inline citations. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:28, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No issues here.  Enigma msg  20:49, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I hope I have managed to operate within the policies and guidelines. It's a stub at the moment. But, it should be thoroughly legit by now. Please check. Aditya (talk • contribs) 22:48, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Sins of Ommision
There is no mention of the fact that a number of the party's principles including Pauline Hanson were sent to jail, they were then subsequently released under somewhat unusual circumstances.

At the time there was comment regarding the activities of Mr Abbott, Mr Costello and some of Mr Costello's inlaws, the impartiality of an only too ready to oblige judiciary also got some mention.

The Australian Political system did not exactly come out of it smelling of roses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.149.79.18 (talk) 04:49, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has around 4 million articles. If you refer to one of them then please give a link to it. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:31, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * If you think a Wikipedia article can be improved, you are welcome to have a go. Any information you add should be backed up by independent reliable sources: see WP:Referencing for beginners for how to cite your sources. It you think the changes you want to make might be controversial, or if you are not confident in editing the page yourself, you can start a discussion on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 12:21, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

One Nation (Australia) may be the article in question.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:13, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Undoing a Page Move
How do you undo a page move?

List of characters in Casino Royale (1967) was moved without any debate, it is a valuable list of every major, minor and uncredited actor in the film.

How can a page move be undone?

Could someone undo it for us?

Thanks,

--Tovojolo (talk) 05:07, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia articles do not need to list every minor or uncredited actor. The standard is notability.  Besides, the article already includes a section on uncredited cast. RudolfRed (talk) 05:10, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * By the way, the article was not moved, it was redirected.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:25, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

It seems it was done with zero discussion, let alone consensus. You could try bringing it up on the talk page. The editor that re-directed it seems to have others mad at them so it may be a vindictive edit of some sort.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:53, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:Featured Books
What is going on with the above page?? I thought it would be some kind of guideline or process like the ones for FA. But the page has nothing of the kind. Instead, it seems to be an advertisement for a Bangladeshi website(blog?) with some content inserted in between about WP:WBOOKS. Is the page simply a hoax? Roshan (talk) 07:05, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Is it supposed to exist? There's nothing in the history, so is it a problem that I was bold and marked it for speedy deletion? - Purplewowies (talk) 07:32, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * See also: Category:"FA-Class" Wikipedia books. benzband  ( talk ) 07:48, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys. Roshan (talk) 08:59, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedily deleted as housekeeping; probably deletable under other criteria too. BencherliteTalk 09:14, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Removing a tag
How do I remove the tag at the top of the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asher_Bilu. I have been advised that there are already enough citations. Luba bilu (talk) 07:49, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Edit the page and remove the text string . Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 08:08, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Picture upload for a new article and copyright question
Hallo, I'm new at the English Wikipedia and would like to add the article about the company I work for in the English version, too. I have put the article in my user page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Petrotest/Petrotest and would like to add the picture of Berthold Pensky. The link is already there but I can't upload anything at the moment. Is it possible to link to the picture in the German Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Berthold_Pensky.jpg)? The license in the English Wikipedia should be PD-US-1923-abroad or/and PD-EU-no author disclosure. This picture was taken before 1894 - please see the original source and more information of the picture here: http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2005696308/. For the German version we looked up the photographer but didn't find anything except the old address and the name of the photographer. Is there any possibility that someone can help me with the picture? Also hints for the article are welcome. Thanks for your help. Petrotest (talk) 09:36, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I've consolidated your references for you (see Help:Footnotes); can't help with the photo issue. Good luck!. Dru of Id (talk) 11:51, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't believe it's possible to link a picture from another Wikipedia. The best plan is to move the picture from de: to WP:Commons, then all Wikipedia's will be able to access it. --ColinFine (talk) 12:24, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The article needs more references: there are hardly any in the first half. Also, you should be aware of the guidelines in WP:COI: I don't think there's anything wrong with the article as it stands, but you do need to be careful about neutrality. --ColinFine (talk) 12:29, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help and advice. The information especially the dates are taken from the German Commercial Registry and out of an old lawsuit. I'm not sure about how to prove those dates since the files are not available in the internet. The part of the court file that I have here at the office is a collection of different letters. One can ask for inspection of the Commercial Registry but you have to pay a fee for that. The files are in German and especially the old ones are handwritten and hard to read. I'm going to open the talk page on that article to discuss the references there. Hope that's ok with you. Petrotest (talk) 07:50, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

"link to Wikipedia" icon?
Some other popular sites, like Twitter, Facebook, and Google, publish on their websites little micro-icon banners ("like this on Facebook", "tweet this", etc.). One adds these to one's own website, with parameters set to link to the appropriate section of that website. Is there a set of Wikipedia icons (or mini-banners); in its current form the Wikipedia logo, when shrunk, would be rather muddy and indistinct. 46.208.237.86 (talk) 13:19, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * See Banners and buttons. Dismas |(talk) 13:23, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Wiki letter w.svg might be what you're looking for.--Shantavira|feed me 13:26, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks Dismas and Shantavira; just what I was hoping for. 46.208.237.86 (talk) 13:56, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

AN/TWQ-1 Avenger infobox
(Solved)

Dear wikipedians, I adjusted some numbers on the AN/TWQ-1 Avenger page, section 4.1 - Dimensions. The weight was horribly off (the kg weight stated was 4300, half the '8600' pounds weight) and I changed some other numbers, too, however the old values are in the infobox, which doesn't feature an 'edit' link. Now, who do I contact about the infobox. I remember that some articles are tagged "This (foobar) article is a stub" but this one isn't (and if I judge it correctly, it is too detailed to be called a stub) but there have been tags like "An article maintained by the Military Taskforce" on other articles, too. For clarification, I am not talking about a military taskforce, but about a taskforce of volunteers who edit wikipedia articles about military topics. I'd like to notify one of them about the mismatching numbers in the infobox. ~ 217.251.159.82 (talk)

BTW, isn't an edit summary like the one on the Resolve disambiguation page, "rv, doesn't have an article here" rude? It's quite old an edit (Nov 10/11, 2008), but does the reverted edit, the one without summary, qualify as vandalism? 217.251.159.82 (talk) 13:47, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * For the first question, you can simply edit the article yourself. The edit link is at the top of the article.  Then just scroll down and make your changes.  It's best if you cite your sources though.  See Referencing for beginners for that.  For the second, if you click on the link to the talk page of the article, you'll see a banner at the top directing you to WikiProject Military History.  And finally, "rv, doesn't have an article here" isn't rude, I'd say.  It's short and to the point.  Dismas |(talk) 13:53, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to the Wikiproject Military. I must have been thick yesterday, when I didn't see it on the article talk page. (: I think it's best to contact them about the infobox, so you can count this help desk entry as solved. 217.251.155.155 (talk)

duplicate articles - different content
I'm trying to create a new article on wikipedia, but there's already one which exists with the same name but the content between the 2 are not related. How am I able to create an article with the same title? I am trying to create a new article called Steel First. KBenjamin 1985 (talk) 14:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * See Disambiguation. Dismas |(talk) 14:48, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Updating Pages
Professor wants to update page. No information on who created page. Should we just create a new page and delete the old one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.134.149.141 (talk) 14:54, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * What page? There is information on who created every page.  You simply have to click on the "View history" link at the top of any article.  And no, deleting the existing page is generally not the accepted way of updating.  Again, what page are you referring to?  Dismas |(talk) 15:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * My guess is that this is about Lawrence Biondi. And if you are, or are associated with, the professor in question, you should read Wikipedia's Conflict of interest guide before making any changes. Maproom (talk) 16:59, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

2 articles that contain incorrect information
Dear Wikipedia Team Member,

I am trying to correct 2 articles in the German version of Wikipedia. But it is almost a month now and the change is not accepted. The problem is that I know prof. Michael Schoenemann, who has found the company GFT (everybody can check this in the German Notary Service) and this information is what I would like to change.

Please advise me how to speed the process of changing the content since it is wrong, and it can be proved wrong.

The 2 articles I am talking about are bellow:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Dietz http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFT_Technologies

thank you very much in advance Nadia Pavlova — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.24.44.50 (talk) 14:56, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * This is the English Wikipedia. The German Wikipedia is an separate project from this one with its own rules.  It would be best to ask at the German Wikipedia.  Dismas |(talk) 15:24, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Help with formatting
I have just created a page called "Ryan Woods" about a footballer whom plays for Shrewsbury town

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Woods_(Footballer)

can it be edited so it looks right, where the text of his player history is listed

can he also be placed among the players of shrewsbury town fc in the squad list.

also, when i type his name in, he doesnt appear (there is a less well known player with the same name, who does appear) ... can this be rectified?!

many thanks

Salopian123 (talk) 15:01, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I fixed the Infobox, but it still needs a lot more work. Andie  ''  ▶Candy◀  15:30, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Editing Error
For some strange reason, I cannot link anything when trying to edit and also when I try to insert a reference it will not let me!! I've tried clearing my cookies and going on other web browsers on my computer but I still have the same problem. What do I need to do? Tay (uhoh)  17:24, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * We need more details like how you try (for example typing or icon clicking) and what happens when you try. Try saving some code that doesn't work here. If it cannot be saved properly then try placing  around it. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:24, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I click the icon and it closes but nothing appears on the page. Tay (uhoh)  23:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Does it work when you log out? Try to clear your entire cache. What is your skin? Which toolbar is the icon on? Is it one of those at refToolbar 2.0? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:33, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I cleared my cache and restored all my defaults and it worked! Thanks a lot! Teman13 (talk) 00:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Author did not edit in his last update, how...?
The author on link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_orthography did recently an update, though still kept in his alphabet the old Greek instead of the modern Greek. Because I do not know how to edit I come here to ask the author or someone who does know how to edit, to edit the next:

In the alphabet it is stil "beta", in modern Greek it is "vita". So if someone could change it...

Thank you. Ch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.176.73.109 (talk) 17:35, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I don't know what you are referring to. The article Greek orthography doesn't contain either 'beta' or 'vita' (but if it did, the English name for the letter β is 'beta'). Like most Wikipedia articles, that article has been edited by many people: you can pick the 'History' tab to get a list of the changes with who made them. --ColinFine (talk) 21:46, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Bug on posting new talk page posts or signatures
Is there a bug on Wikipedia just now? every time i try to make new talk page post it redirect back t blank page but does not create the page, also when i try pressing the signature button it just looks like it is process it then does nothing and refresh the page. It is quite annoying and meaning i am struggling to post. Also should say any page edits i make it is inserting loads of blank space into it meaning i have to go back an remove it-- Andrewcrawford ( talk  -  contrib ) 17:41, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What browser are you using? Does this happen on other websites for you? Have you changed any preferences lately, either in your browser, to your internet connection, or to your Wikipedia account itself?Happy editing, hajat  vrc  with WikiLove @ 18:01, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Chrome, No does not happen on other websites, Not changed any settings in a while the last change i made to the wikipedia account was maybe a month or two ago but this problem only occur the other day after i read about using wiked function which was enabled for a while but have never really used before i think i press one of the button in that and since then the problem has occur but entirely sure which one Andrewcrawford ( talk  -  contrib ) 19:21, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * it was find and replace i used and sicne that it has been mucked up basically it stop replacing half way through doing wha ti was wanting and then since then it has mucked up Andrewcrawford ( talk  -  contrib ) 19:46, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You can disable wikEd at Special:Preferences. Does that help? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:19, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Wording
On my Awake (TV series), I don't know if I should use canceled or cancelled. Thanks. TBrandley 17:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It's an American series, so you should use the American spelling, wiith one "l". Maproom (talk) 18:08, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * see American and British English spelling differences. Dru of Id (talk) 18:12, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, be careful with saying "my", WP:OWN. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 10:09, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Footnote additions
I am having difficulty with this function to add a reference at the bottom of a page..?? I have read the directions but operator error i am sure thank you so much

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_R._Goldfarb

We are adding a non profit that at the moment functions on Facebook with a website to follow We are deleting vandalism and we are updating one heading

Help maybe we do not need a footnote

Lakshmi1014 (talk) 19:03, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Your only edit removed a paragraph from Lawrence R. Goldfarb and didn't add anything. There are several pages about references and you didn't say which directions you read but try Referencing for beginners. If you still have problems then try saving an edit even if the reference doesn't look as you want. Then we can see what's wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:13, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If you are trying to add links to social media to the article, please read WP:EXT. You cannot normally link to social media sites from Wikipedia, and certainly not for references (see WP:RS). --ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Create/Change name of the page I attempted to create and misc
Hello,

I logged in and created a username and password, and thought I created a new page for the organization I work for. The computer logs me in automatically, so this verifies I successfully created a username. However, how do I a.Change (or create?)the name of the TITLE, and b. publish it?

Thank you for your prompt response.

-MC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.185.150.179 (talk) 19:06, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not clear whether you're trying to create a new article or rename an existing one. But, in either case, you need to read the policy on editing with a conflict of interest.  Then you can read WP:MOVE and WP:YFA, which should help.  RudolfRed (talk) 19:19, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * What is your username? We cannot see what happened without knowing it. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:05, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Last name with a Upper case letter in the middle
I am trying to edit a title for a person's wiki page. His name contains is DuBrul, but I can only get the title of his page to read Dubrul (all lower case) Help? How to people with Mc names do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumedouglas (talk • contribs) 19:26, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I have moved it to Sascha Altman DuBrul. It required an administrator because the target title already existed (it was a redirect). PrimeHunter (talk) 19:31, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

How to print out pages from your website
Dumb question I know, but sometimes I like to print out TV synoposis but either get a blank page or perhaps a blank page; for example, the Inspector Lewis mystert series? Thanks. Tom — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.188.215.240 (talk) 20:03, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Does Help:Printable help? Which browser do you have? Can you try another? Please give the exact title of a page where it happens and say which page(s) is blank. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:01, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

New article feedback - notability and references
Hi! I've written a new article at User:Fish613/Daniel Greenberg (lawyer) which I think is ready to go live, and I wonder if anyone can provide feedback? In particular, I want to know if I've established notability and used enough references to support the article.

If you want to help me improve the article, please do use its talk page.

Thanks!

Fish. (talk) 20:11, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You have listed no useful sources for establishing notability. There's *probably* enough here to escape CSD A7 but this would be deleted at articles for deletion, unless some real reliable, independent, secondary sources were found discussing the subject in detail (based on one of your comments in a thread below, please see our conflict of interest guideline). Who's Who is a publication that is compiled by questionnaires filled out by the subject or someone who knows him or her, and is thus very much not an independent source "with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" as required. It's not always purely a paid directory however. Some of them do try to be somewhat selective, only soliciting autobiographical entries from people they believe to be of some note (other are paid directories), but in either form they are not independent nor secondary sources. The second source just verifies that the subject works somewhere. It's not an independent source source discussing the subject. The same thing for the OED. Are there articles written about the person by third parties with significant treatment? Newspaper stories? Magazine articles? Book treatment?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:11, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Creating an Article
If I am associated with a company, and I am trying to make a page for that company, am I able to? I maintain a neutral tone and use independent secondary sources. If I am not able to create my own page, is there someone I could submit my draft to, who will edit and post it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobby1379 (talk • contribs) 20:15, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You could do what I did: write it in your user space, ask for feedback from others and move it live if it's ok. Otherwise, there's a page at Requested_articles where you can suggest a topic and other people will write it. Regards, Fish. (talk) 20:19, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok. where did you disclose your affiliation with the company? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobby1379 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * On the talk page of the article, where I asked for feedback. (It wasn't actually a company, it was a person who I know, but it's the same idea.) Fish. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:27, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Company not listed on Wikipedia
I noticed ScholarChip® is not mentioned on Wiki but it's competitor Pearson Education is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.74.104.3 (talk) 21:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Probably because no one has written it yet. We don't have all companies here that are notable. IPEX is a huge notable company in my city but no mention at all in wp. You could try writing the article yourself, requesting it, etc. Beware of COI, NOT, and POV though.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:27, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks like it's been written (by Bob from ScholarChip) and deleted three times already. Twice for WP:SPAM and once for WP:COPYRIGHT. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 21:32, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I just noticed that it's also been salted because of the attempts on recreation. Since your IP geolocates to ScholarChip, I would just let it go and maybe someone else will eventually create the article who doesn't have a conflict of interest.  Wikipedia isn't the place to promote your company, anyway. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 21:37, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Share alike
Some photos are designated SHARE ALIKE and the web site states they can be used as long as an attribution is given. The same applies for GENERIC images. I have heard that if such images are used in an iBook textbook they will negate any copyright protection for other images owned by the author.Is this true as I cannot find any such warning on the Wikipedia website. Thanks, Ken — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.26.13 (talk) 21:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Sounds like total nonsense. Why would use of a freely licensed image with proper attribution have any effect on another image that is not freely licensed? If for example, the book stated some blanket text such as "all images in this book are freely licensed..." or other type of blanket release, that would be different—the non-free images owned by the party making the blanket statement would be then released and any they didn't own would remain copyrighted with the false release being a lawsuit waiting to happen, but no I cannot see any way this could be true. Of course, the author would be wise to mark their copyright inside of or in conjunction with each of their own images included, and give credit and use by permission information for ones they do not own. You say "I have heard that..."; from what source?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:43, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

list of massacres in history
fyi... i believe the battle of manila in world war II saw the japanese naval forces defending the city against MacArthurs forces killed (massacred) approximentely 100,000 Filipino civilians caught in the battle.. should it not also be listed? thank you for your attention in the matter.. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.123.196.135 (talk) 22:37, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There's a page List of events named massacres, which I assume is where you want it to be added. They've had long discussions there about criteria for inclusion, but since there's already an article Manila massacre I think it passes. I'll add it there and see what people think.

Regards, Fish. (talk) 22:53, 9 July 2012 (UTC)