Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 June 1

= June 1 =

Saved edits do not appear
Edits saved to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_State_Colleges_and_Universities_System do not appear when page is initially accessed. The edits do appear after accessing the edit history and returning to read. How can these edits be made to appear upon initial access?Wastedmoney (talk) 00:23, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It sounds like an issue with your browser's cache. Clear that and you should be fine.  Dismas |(talk) 00:28, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * (e/c) There are two caches that may be involved, yours and Wikipedia's. To purge each, see respectively, WP:BYPASS and WP:PURGE.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

OTRS Ticket
Where do I go to fill out an OTRS ticket? When a picture I submitted was taken down, I was directed to the OTRS wiki page, but I could not find the actual PLACE to CLICK to submit an OTRS ticket, only info about it and a list of all the various sites and languages. If I am using English wk, and want to fill out an OTRS ticket, where exactly do I go? First down comets (talk)
 * You don't fill it out — you email it in. Talk with one of your supervisors (either Cheri herself or someone who has authority over the campaign's intellectual property) and have them send an email to photosubmission[[Image:At sign.svg|15px|@]]wikimedia.org.  This email will have to have certain elements to be valid; click the "show" button on this box to see a sample email with all those parts.

Hello, OTRS. My name is [insert name here] and I am [insert title here] for the campaign of Cheri Bustos. I have authority over intellectual property owned by the campaign, and I wish to release rights to [image name]. This image is licensed under [license]; I acknowledge that anyone will be allowed to use it for any purpose (even commercially) as long as they follow the terms of the license.


 * Before you send the email, upload the photo. Next, have your supervisor replace "insert name here" with his/her name, "insert title here" with his/her title, "image name" with the name of the image (if you want to use the name "File:Thumbnail-big-bustos.cheri.cmyk.jpg", simply replace "image name" with "File:Thumbnail-big-bustos.cheri.cmyk.jpg"), and license with the name of the license to use.  You can find acceptable licenses here, or the image could be released into the public domain.  I'd recommend the "CC-by-3.0" license — it requires people to credit the campaign with its authorship but doesn't force them to do much of anything else.  Wikipedia policy doesn't permit any more restrictions than this, except for a restrictive sharealike clause.  When the email has been sent, go to the image and place a license tag on it (for example, if the cc-by-3.0 license is chosen, you'd do this by typing  on it) and the text  .  Doing all this will make it clear what's going on and should resolve any issues.  Come back here or feel free to ask at my talk page if you want help.  Nyttend (talk) 02:00, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Name Confict? What do I need to do? Who Is TowTrucker?
The Wikipedia page "User talk:The Tzar of Culture" has been changed on 31 May 2012 by TowTrucker, with the edit summary: Warning: Username and conflict of interest policy on TheTzar of Culture. (TW)

See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Tzar_of_Culture&diff=next&oldid=495328694 to view this change. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Tzar_of_Culture&diff=0&oldid=495328694 for all changes since your last visit. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Tzar_of_Culture for the current revision.

To contact the editor, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TowTrucker — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Tzar of Culture (talk • contribs) 02:15, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

How would one find a bot owner for a task?
I just noticed that Template:Infobox_musical_artist has a category of associated articles with deprecated parameters that currently numbers nearly 4,000. The parameters that need fixed are "Born =" (replaced by Template:Birth date and age for the living and Template:Birth date for deceased) and "Died =" (replaced by Template:Death date and age. I have begun plugging away at them but I am slowed by my obsession with actually reading the articles and making whatever improvements I can. How could one contact a qualified bot owner and request a task? - UnbelievableError (talk) 02:16, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Start at WP:BOTREQ RudolfRed (talk) 02:48, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Looks like exactly the place. - UnbelievableError (talk) 02:53, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

apurva palanpura
he is great flut player — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhinavpalanpura9 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 1 June 2012‎ (UTC+1)


 * What is your question? Nyttend (talk) 04:08, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * What is a great flut?--Shantavira|feed me 10:10, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Presumably "he is a great flute player". Nyttend (talk) 11:49, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * If you want to request an article about somebody, please go to WP:RA. --ColinFine (talk) 14:10, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Short footnotes
hello,

someone please help fixing Ref 67 on Fyodor Dostoyevsky. Thanks.-- GoP T C N 07:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * It works now for me. I submitted an edit fixing the problem, but for some reason, no edit by me is shown in the page history or my contributions, so I can't say whether the fact that it works now (at least for me) is due to my actions or not. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:15, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * (I must have edited it in some form, since the article is now on my watchlist and since I didn't watch the page manually, but have the option automatically watch pages I edit enabled, I seem to have edited the page in some form. Weird.) -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:19, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I have fixed the author order in the ref so the link to their book works. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:34, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Chemical structures, help on copyright status.
Hello and I wish you a happy Brion Vibber Day. On this auspicious day of Wikipedia, I have got some questions to ask about the copyright status of structures of chemical compounds. According to the template, a chemical structure cannot be copyrighted. It reads as follows, This image of a simple structural formula is ineligible for copyright and therefore in the public domain, because it consists entirely of individual words, simple geometric shapes and information that is common property and contains no original authorship. I have the following doubts,
 * Does every molecular structure (like ball and socket structures) gets this copyright status?
 * Can we upload every structure on this internet including those which belongs to copyrighted pages/articles?
 * What about reaction mechanism? Can I draw the same mechanism that I found in a book and upload it with this copyright status? i.e; are reaction mechanism in public domain?
 * The chemical drawing program is copyrighted and says "For educational use only". Does this status apply to the molecules drawn out of them? If so, then can I upload it to commons?
 * Where in wikipedia and her sister projects can we use images of commons? Is every image, including those which are copyrighted, usable in articles? I know that copyrighted images cannot be used in user pages, but can they be in articles?
 * One more question: Where should have been these questions asked; Village pump or Help desk? Sorry if I was wrong and please notify me in that case.→ V ani s che nu TM 07:56, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe in order to decide whether a particular work is copyrightable or not it has to be evaluated whether the work is original enough to be eligible for copyright protection (see Threshold of originality). My guess is, that these visualizations of molecular structures, as consisting only of simple geometric shapes, are generally ineligible for copyright protection, as they are not creative enough.
 * To your second point: I think works (images) depicting more complex structures might be eligible for copyright protection, once they reach a particular level of complexity, since at some point the shapes the structure consists of would no longer be "simple".
 * I don't think chemical formulas are copyrightable in general. But a particular depiction of a formula that involves an amount of creativity might be copyrightable. My guess is that File:BromoethaneSN2reaction-small.png is ineligible for copyright protection, as that formula does not constitute a creative work, such as say a poem or a drawing and only consists of simple geometric shapes, such as dots, lines and letters.


 * I suggest to bring this question up again at Media copyright questions. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 10:06, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The thing with chemical formulas is that there's only one way to depict them — rearrange the atoms, and you'll get a different molecule. As a result, every accurate depiction of this reaction will look the same.  As for your program, they mean that the software itself is copyrighted, but not the images that it produces.  Nyttend (talk) 11:55, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your kind and resourceful replies. Your answers were very helpful. Also, I read the page Threshold of originality as you told me, and now have a good idea of the copyright status of molecular structures. I hope I can construct and upload them with out the restrictions of copyright rules. Thank you very much. Wikipedia does lacks many necessary reaction mechanisms. I would like to know more about In honor of your advice, I am asking the same question in commons.(here). Dear Nyttend, thank you very much for clearing me about the copyright status of the software and the image produced from it. I will now look for programs that can create ball and socket 3D models.→ V ani s che nu TM 12:38, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this situation is rather difficult. Vanischenu above said the program says "For educational use only". I believe this would disqualify the use of the images on Wikipedia under anything else than fair use, since content on Wikipedia must have been released under a free license, which also permits use for commercial purposes. I don't believe however, that a valid claim for fair use on Wikipedia for such images could be made, since they would fail NFCC#1. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The program that I used was freeware version of ACD/Chemsketch. It says: for personal, home and educational use only.→ V ani s che nu TM 12:48, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Don't confuse the licensing of the software used to the create the images and the copyright status of the images that it creates. It is perfectly possible for someone to use "educational use" only software to generate output that can be released into the public domain. Similarly I could create a literary work in MS Word and release it into the public domain or license it under any terms that I see fit.--ukexpat (talk) 13:11, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I would agree on this statement; the license that the software uses only affects the program and not its output: it would come into play if you were taking a screenshot of the program for an article about the program to demonstrate the user interface, but the graphic file of the chemical structure it produces is, in most cases, going to fail the ToO and/or be considered an uncopyrightable fact.  There is probably a point when you start talking about the really complex molecules (folded DNA structures) that the choice of colors/representation may be considered artistic but that doesn't seem to be the case here). --M ASEM  (t) 13:17, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * If you create something using the program and violate the "educational use only" limitation, you violate the software licence, so the software manufacturer could take you to court. However, the software manufacturer is unable to have any influence of the copyright status of your creations, so you are still free to license the images under any licence of your choice. The only one who could end up in legal trouble is you yourself for violating the software licence. Compare with Museum photography about limitations when taking photos at a museum: the museum could take the photographer (but no one else) to court. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:56, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * But there exist a problem. Suppose that I took the photo of something at the museum (Say, El Cid's sword). The museum authority will have the proof that the photo is taken from the museum itself and can take legal actions. In this case the image product does not have any mark that it was from a particular software (or someone can edit it, if present). Hence it would be likely that the software cannot take legal action. But if this was correct, the why should they say for educational use only. Thus it must be able to take some legal action. Also, Wikimedia projects are educational, however, the commons images can be used for any purpose. So I might then be breaking the agreement with the company of software.→ V ani s che nu TM 08:26, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it has to be clarified what the "educational use only" label applies to. Does it apply only to the software or also to the output? Furthermore, when exactly is a use "educational"? Is a use of the file on Wikipedia educational? I think yes and thus use of the images on Wikipedia should be possible. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:48, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The complete restrictive phrase is - "for personal, home and educational use only". What that means in practice is that the software may not be used for business. As a condition of contributing to Wikipedia is that a contributor may only act in their private personal capacity (not as a representative of a business or other organisation) it then follows that creating illustrations for Wikipedia does qualify as "personal use". A fairly strong argument can also be made (if you consider the WMF's mission) that writing and drawing for Wikipedia is also an educational activity. Roger (talk) 09:01, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Becoming a computing advisor and also submitting a company wiki page
All,

Could I have assistance and guidance on the following two points as I wish to contribute to Wikipedia:

1)Could someone advise me on how to create a company wiki page.

2)As a datacenter and I.T. specialist of 20 years I would like to also offer my expertise in reviewing and advising on computing content.

Many thanks and kind regards,

Damion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Damionlock (talk • contribs) 09:48, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Damionlock. Regarding your first question, probably don't bother. Wikipedia is not a listings directory. If your company is notable, per our notability guidelines, then someone will create an article about it sooner or later - that someone shouldn't be you, to avoid any conflict of interest.
 * Regarding your offer of assistance, fantastic! We can always use more expert assistance. I'd suggest joining the Computing WikiProject, where you'll find other like-minded editors and a ton of tasks that need doing. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 10:14, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Need to make diffs edit changes more visible
I'm having trouble seeing marked changes when I do diff (e.g. this. For the ones without a -/+ next to it, I dont' see any changes and don't know why it appears in the diff. For the ones with a -/+ next to it, the left column shows a yellow background with the change highlighted in a light yellow, which I have a very hard time finding sometimes. The right column has light blue markings for the changes, and I have a hard time seeing those as well when the change is very minor (a space, a period, etc.). Instead of faint pastel yellow/blue color scheme, I would like to see the the changes highlighted in very bright colors - red, deep yellow, etc. I just changed my preference to "Display diffs with the new yellow/blue color scheme and design that improves accessibility" and I don't see any improvement in visibility of the edits. Anything else I can try? -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:24, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I just tried the "Display diffs with the old yellow/green colors and design." gadgets option. It's better - highlighting some changes in red - but it still misses some. If you look at the change in line 63 in link, a space was removed from the text "larger lots as well. ... The" so that it now reads, "many larger lots as well...." Is there a way to have that change highlighted in the diff? Thanks. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:32, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I use User:Cacycle/wikEdDiff which for me provides a much easier to follow diff view and you can see spacing changes much more distinctly. If you want to try it out, go to Special:MyPage/skin.js, add the following and then clear your cache:

// install User:Cacycle/wikEdDiff enhanced diff view using ajax importScript('User:Cacycle/wikEdDiff.js');
 * --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:39, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I installed the script, cleared my cache, but don't see any change. Did I install the script correctly? Maybe I need to change my gadget selections? -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 08:16, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * This is just a guess, but maybe you aren't aware of how to access it. It doesn't change the diff view you normally see, it provides a button right below the regular diff view and when you click on it, it provides an alternative diff view below the regular one.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:20, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Found the button! Wow. What a difference. I can finally see every change, even removal of a period ".". Be nice for that to be a gadgets option. Thank for the assistance. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 01:02, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Glad you like it!--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:46, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Winter Park High School, Winter Park Florida
The article shows Winter Park High School is located in Wilmington NC but it is actually located in Winter Park Florida. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.246.210.195 (talk) 12:00, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to ? That article refers to Winter Park, Florida.--ukexpat (talk) 13:13, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Apparently refers to their Facebook page, which gets the location wrong in the header and footer, but correct in the body. Dru of Id (talk) 16:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * If you refer to the Facebook page then note it says "Description above from the Wikipedia article Winter Park High School". The wrong location is not in the "Description" field and must have been added by Facebook. Wikipedia has no control over how Facebook uses our content. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:54, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Updated financial figures that do not appear afterwards in the public page
Data updated for a multinational company from their official 2011 Annual Report. The updated data appear in the edit area but do not appear in the published part. Please advise. Thank-you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editornic (talk • contribs) 12:46, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed, but for future reference - the data did not show because it was not part of the template parameters. -Cntras (talk) 13:19, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Diana, Princess of Wales
The Team Members, I, am new to WP. Today I edited the "LADY DIANA" Death and had submitted the under mentioned :-

Lady Diana Accident or a Planned Murder People all over the world knows that "The Lady Diana" was having an affair with Dody. How the Dody was planted with Lady Diana ? How they both were killed in France ?

If you see the Hindi Language (Hindi is the Language of INDIA) film "SHAN". In a shot Amitabh Bachchan and Praveen Bobby robed a diamond necklace from a Hotel and runaway in a car they were followed by POLICE (In Marathi Language people pronounced POLICE as पोळीचे or पोलिसे) This is the same way the french people call Police (This says the location of couple in France) when Amitabh Bachchan was stopped at the dead end (Dead End means Death) now at the end Police came and about to tell something, before Police Personnel says some thing Amitabh Bachchan Starts telling them something like this :-     I am the the son of FOOL CHAND (Fool means Flower). Before becoming a flower the bud comes first (BUD Means in Hindi DODI) and the man dodi was planted with Lady Diana who was killed in the road accident along with Lady Diana. This the same DODI Which J.L Nehru used to of wearing on his Sherwani. J.L Nehru and Prince Charle's shares the same date of birth but the year is different. Dodi is the conversion of TODI, what Indian's were used to, to call English People when they were here in India till 15th of Aug.1947. The Full name was TODI BACHCHA (Not Bachchan). The Indians abused the English People as Basted by saying TODI BACHCHA They Planned this for Queen of England and brought forward the DODI up-to Lady Diana. Because of Strong Family Values the Indian's could not succeed it for Queen Mother also because of Lady Diana's affection towards the poor and needy people, the Dodi AL FRAYED be able to come up-to Lady Diana.

There are much more films which tells about International and National Incidents and Other Activities like :- Song :- Tauba-Tauba - stands for Lashkar - e Tauba. A terrorist organisation. it's a Hindu and Indian Organisation.

But now it is removed from the page, also I wanted to fix a Picture or an Image in the article. Please guide and Advice. Thanks, Regards,

--SHEENUASHISH (talk) 13:26, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi SHEENUASHISH, Welcome to Wikipedia. Your additions have been reverted because we cannot accept original research or other unreferenced speculative content. -Cntras (talk) 13:45, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

HTML char refs for "[" & "]"
Inside a link I want to insert bracketed text, so I need to represent the inserted brackets with HTML character references, but I forgot them. I think between &# and the semicolon I'm supposed to write 91 or 93 for the opening or closing (square) bracket, respectively, but I forgot if the wiki requires padding with zero/es. Does anyone have advice, please? And which Wikipedia page has this information? Nick Levinson (talk) 16:01, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You can insert brackets inside links without having to do that, like [this] for example or [like this] . " & #91;" and " & #93;" will make "[" and "]" respectively, though. Scarce2 (talk) 19:18, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * If your problem is an external link with brackets in the url then see Help:URL. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:38, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * That page seems to only describe percent-encoding, which is only useful for the URL itself, not the title of the link.
 * Basically:
 * " " will produce "[This] is an example".
 * " " will produce "&#91;This&#93; is an example"
 * " " will produce "[This is an example]"
 * " " will produce "&#91;This&#93; is an example"
 * Scarce2 (talk) 19:56, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I added title encoding to Help:URL ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 13:07, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I missed it and thought I was stupid and nearly said so here, but I see two of us missed it, which means probably more of us also miss it, so now I've clarified the Help:URL page. Thanks for helping. Nick Levinson (talk) 15:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Creating a new page in French and in English.....
I followed the directions to create the page "Bajatell - biography" but it was refused. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malebeau (talk • contribs) 17:24, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you read the explanation you were given at WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk? That sums it up perfectly-- Jac 16888 Talk 17:28, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Collapse template

 * - Jeremy_Wade -

Hi - Is it possible to collapse this template - that appears to be under the title Fishing personalities?

You really  can  18:31, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * gives the below. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:49, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Cool - Thanks User:PrimeHunter - You  really  can  20:26, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

How to add references?
Hello guys, I am from India and have recently started actively contributing to existing articles of Wikipedia, about my locality and the stuff which I know. But while editing an article recently, I saw that I have read some info about it from a book I got from Project Gutenberg. So, how may I add this as a reference to justify the validity of the information I have added there?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheEternalFlame (talk • contribs) 18:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * See WP:REFB. Cresix (talk) 18:40, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry - I can't find a deleted article I wrote that I would like to download
I'm not complaining it was deleted (at least not here!)

I would just like to get at the text I wrote - I never thought Wikipedia irrevocably deleted pages, but you seem to have.

The page is: Julian_Field_(programmer)

I found the discussion had happened at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Julian_Field_(programmer)

I did follow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2007_May_14#Deleted_article but it didn't help.

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hugh.glaser (talk • contribs) 20:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Nothing is irrevocably deleted. The deleted article is visible to admins like myself. Having looked at the deleted version, I honestly suspect you might be better off starting from scratch. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  21:26, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Check your email (whatever email you provided when you signed up for your account).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:33, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Changing top heading
I created a page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_nunns

It has a double title and the first wiki generated one has a lower case "n" for the surname. I'm sure I did something wrong but I can't find a way of rectifying it! Oooops!

Can it be altered please?

Coronwen (talk) 21:51, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ - I removed the header and moved the page to it's correct title, as well as removed external links that were not needed and added some tags. That article definitely needs some references, though.Avic ennasis @ 22:11, 11 Sivan 5772 / 22:11, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Crosswikispam
I have seen an article where the last few hours (1 every half hour) through the week has arrived, some new inter-wiki, a relatively unknown languages ​​(Slovenian, Vietnamese, Basque, etc.). What are all extremely short on one line and it says the same in all. It is all created by the same ip address that has not done anything else on the wiki than one contribution. I therefore have a strong fear of the cross-wiki spam the article. Admin (s), on the other wikis have not noticed the problem. How should it be handled? Good week. --109.232.72.49 (talk) 21:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * You can report obvious and persistent vandals at Administrator intervention against vandalism. Before posting there, a final warning in an escalating series should have been posted to the user's talk page (for example Uw-vandal4, Uw-spam4 or Uw-speedy4), and the user must have vandalized within the last few hours, including after the final warning was given. Various warning templates can be found at Template messages/User talk namespace. Your block request is unlikely to be acted upon unless you follow these steps. Cases that are not simple vandalism can be reported at WP:AN/I. Of course, in conjunction with warning against and reporting vandalism, you have the ability, mandate and are encouraged to revert all instances of vandalism you find yourself.--Breawycker (talk to me!) 22:02, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The above probably won't help you for cross-wiki vandals (though it will alert English Wikipedia admins to clean up the spam here.) You'd probably have better luck posting about it at Steward requests/Speedy deletions under "Multi-wiki requests", and a Steward (A kind of global admin) will take care of it. Avic ennasis @ 22:14, 11 Sivan 5772 / 22:14, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

people that makes the wikipedia an unfree webpage
Good afternoon people, I only want to write this message because of unscrupolous people in brazilian wikipedia, they had eliminate an important article called "Teatro Pedro IV de Macau" or something like that, it's an important article like I've say, for me and other people who want to know about, for me i'ts a really pity, even more when I knew that they had eliminate other article of same author, I don´t know who is this person but his username is "Fsakata", and he/she had make other importants contributions for the community, then it's impossible that the inescrupulous people decide waht it's correct and what it's incorrect, even more if they don't have criterion I'm only an ordinary user. Thank you for reading --186.10.34.222 (talk) 22:29, 1 June 2012 (UTC)Carolina
 * We don't have a Brazilian Wikipedia - Do you mean the Português Wikipedia? If so, your concern would be best addressed at pt:Wikipédia:Contato/Fale com a Wikipédia there. Avic ennasis @ 22:52, 11 Sivan 5772 / 22:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)