Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 June 29

= June 29 =

Using Flickr images
I'm really confused on this. How do you know if a image from Flickr can be used on Wikipedia/Wikimedia? --Shadow (talk) 03:56, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * It depends on the licence. If it doesn't have a licence that lets it be freely used, then you can't use it here.   For example, a few of the ones I saw, said licecing could be purchased from Getty, so those couldn't be used here. RudolfRed (talk) 04:16, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * How do you tell for sure though? I added an image that had no markings on Flickr and was basically killed for doing so. --Shadow (talk) 04:40, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Go to advanced search: http://www.flickr.com/search/advanced/?


 * Click the box: "Only search within Creative Commons-licensed content"


 * ...and click the two boxes beneath: "Find content to use commercially" and "Find content to modify, adapt, or build upon"


 * Whatever comes up is fair game.


 * (Note: If the image looks professional, check the contributor's other uploads. If they are all done with different cameras, etc., be suspicious that they are copyvios. Best leave it.) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:44, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * There's a handy chart at User:GreatOrangePumpkin/Flickr uploading. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:17, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

SVG logos
Why do SVG format logos use the non-free use rationale: "...The logo is of a size and resolution sufficient to maintain the quality intended by the company or organization, without being unnecessarily high resolution..." when SVG images are very high resolution? I've always wondered that. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:29, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * That's exactly what I created SVG-Res for - to replace this line with a more SVG-specific version, informing editors/re-users that the SVG file can be rendered at high resolution, but shouldn't. Avic ennasis @ 09:13, 9 Tamuz 5772 / 09:13, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I see. So, I should just glue this SVG-Res where it says "|Low_resolution =", like I did here, right?


 * Also, what do we use for logos, this or Non-free use rationale logo?


 * Many thanks, and sorry to be a bother. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:26, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * No bother at all - and that's exactly how you use it. As for non-SVG logos, there's no additional template needed; the default line generated by Non-free use rationale logo should suffice. Non-free logo can be added, though it's not needed. If the image is on the larger size, it may need to be sized down and re-uploaded. (Not saying that's the case here, as this seems fine to me.) I believe we even have a bot or two that will re-size non-free images automagically. Avic ennasis  @ 09:38, 9 Tamuz 5772 / 09:38, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Perfect. Very helpful. Thank you kindly. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:17, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I have been using SVG-Logo. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

rollback vs undo
I read the page at WP:Rollback, but I don't quite get it. Is rollback different than the "undo" feature that shows up when viewing a page's history? What does rollback do that undo doesn't, and why does rollback require special permissions when undo apparently does not? RudolfRed (talk) 04:32, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Rollback requires permission as it is quite a powerful right. It undoes an entire consecutive string of edits by an editor with one click. Undo only undoes the last edit. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:37, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The Twinkle gadget gives you similar powerful undo options without requiring any special permission. However, some of the specialised anti-vandalism tools require the rollback right. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:07, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I missed that Rollback undid more than one edit at a time. RudolfRed (talk) 17:01, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

item that gives credence to an article
I investigated Academie Des Inventeurs Industriels Et Exposants and found a brief article about how it was a "scam" from 1890's where medals were given to inventors who sent in funds to pay for a certificate and a medal. I have such a medal that belonged to my great grandfather. I'd be glad to take a picture of it to have it added to the article. I know very little about the invention my grt grandfather was to have invented but the medal is real. The certificate is long gone. Somewhere else I read that inventors in Europe were targeted by the Mr. Bottchner but my grt grandfather was American and I don't think ever traveled to Europe. SO the scam must have gone farther than Europe. let me know if a photo of the medal would be helpful to verify the article

R Reynolds JonesR Reynolds Jones (talk) 05:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think it helps for verification, because it would be a primary source, and Wikipedia requires secondary sources. But I think it would be a useful addition to the article, if it clearly identifies what it is. Please see WP:Image tutorial for how you can add a picture. --ColinFine (talk) 13:16, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

disambiguation pages on Ken Scott
Upon loading page  I am given the following error message: This article currently links to a large number of disambiguation pages. After fixing the links I save and receive this message: Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in. I have tried logging out and back in several times and still the same messages keep appearing. Any suggestions would be most gratefully received. Thanks.Charlie7ton (talk) 06:38, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yea, that happens. All you have to do is click "save changes" after you see that message and it ends up saving your changes despite what the message says.  Athleek  123  07:29, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

How can I stop a page from being removed?
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maykel_Piron

Text is objective, in my opinion, and it's a biography rather than a self-promotional piece of text. Yet people complaint that it's self promotion or advertisement. How can I prevent the page from being removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanielleVermaat (talk • contribs) 09:30, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Ask on whatever language Wiki that is. They have different rules and such then English Wikipedia and operates somewhat independently. C T J F 8 3  09:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The deletion discussion of that article is at this page on the Nederlands Wikipedia, you should participate in the discussion there. Roger (talk) 10:39, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I would like to add myself to wikipedia as i play for thehungarian national rugby team, how do i do this?? D toth
please answer my question above — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.172.91.12 (talk) 10:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Self written articles are discouraged here. Ask someone else to write it, establishing your notability through reliable sources. Would you not be more notable on the Hungarian Wikipedia than here? If you think you will improve your career by having an article on a more widely read Wiki then this is not the place to do that. Britmax (talk) 10:27, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The current Hungary national rugby union team article does not name any players at all. I'd suggest that you try to expand and improve that article before trying to create articles about individual players. An article about yourself should be last on your "to do" list due to the concerns about conflict of interest. Be careful to use reliable sources when writing about a topic that you are involved in. You should also try to recruit some help at WT: WikiProject Rugby union, the editors there would most likely know best how to assist you. Roger (talk) 10:35, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Copypaste issue
I spotted a issue at Nora Ephron and added a hatnote; however, it was removed by another editor. What is the appropriate thing for me to do now? I noted the issue on the article's talk page, but that does not seem the adequate forum for this kind of issue. --Lambiam 11:25, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks like the other editor didn't remove it so much as he replaced it with an attribution note. I can see that your comment at the talk page addresses the legal validity of this replacement. If this issue cannot be resolved on the talk page, then you should make a filing at the Copyright problems board. -Thibbs (talk) 14:56, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Template for name change of image file
What is the template for changing the name of a wrongly named image? Thx Paul venter (talk) 13:42, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It depends if you mean a file in Wikipedia or in Commons. If the former, then I can do that for you. Regards. -- GoP T C N 13:48, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Should have added - it's in Commons Paul venter (talk) 13:50, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia administrators cannot move files at commons. See commons:Commons:File renaming. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:53, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thx - just what I was looking for! Paul venter (talk) 14:02, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Pancreas
Pancreas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.107.83 (talk) 14:03, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * What about Pancreas? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:14, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Lucas Oil Stadium MEP Engineer of Record
We have tried multiple times to change the page for Lucas Oil Stadium to correct the MEP Engineer of Record. Currently the page shows Flak and Kurtz as the services engineer when in fact Moore Engineers P.C. was the legal Engineer of Record. I don't know the procedure to report this inaccuracy but we would like to get it changed. Below are a couple links showing that we are in fact the MEP engineer of record for the stadium. Thank you!69.39.139.50 (talk) 14:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC) — 69.39.139.50 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Who is "we"? Moore seems to have a lot of accounts, each a single purpose account dedicated only to pushing their name into articles. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  14:54, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Since you evidently have a conflict of interest, you should not be editing that page. Explain on its talk page what change you would like to see, with references. --ColinFine (talk) 16:29, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I've reformatted the references as links. The second is the first independent reliable source I've seen offered, although not changing the original account name as suggested, and the multiple other accounts trying to shoe-horn it in unreferenced or with only primary sources make me hesitant to add it. Dru of Id (talk) 18:04, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

What MediaWiki page produces the text on the "Login Successful" page?
I've been searching for a talk page for it to no avail. - Purplewowies (talk) 15:26, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * MediaWiki:Loginsuccess and MediaWiki:Centralauth-login-progress, I think. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:08, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You might find more people knowledgable about this at Village pump (technical). RJFJR (talk) 16:27, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Thanks, though I just figured out I didn't need it (the browser I was using was showing "please see" without a space, and I thought it was a problem with the page and was going to request an edit). - Purplewowies (talk) 16:35, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

How many prices should be listed in a tablet articles, such as Nexus 7
Are their any guidelines on how many prices from various countries should be listed in tablet/phone/electronic item articles? Please look at the intro and infobox of the Nexus 7 article for my concern. Thanks in advance! • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  16:49, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * None. We are not a catalog or price guide. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:00, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  17:23, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia page gone
Hi,

My hometown of Cottam, Ontario had a really cute wikipedia page. This page is entirely gone now. When I google Cottam, Ontario, some wikipedia info comes up. However, until a short time ago, Cottam, Ontario always had its own wikipedia page, with a little photo of the main street of Cottam with the Cottam sign etc. along with a write up of a few paragraphs.

What happened to it? Can you PLEASE retrieve it and repost it to Wikipedia's site?

Thank you!

50.65.40.164 (talk) 17:55, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Since it's not actually a town, but rather a neighborhood within Kingsville, Ontario; and since the content that was there had gone completely unreferenced and thus unverifiable since the This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. notice was placed there in July 2008, it was decided to redirect Cottam, Ontario to Kingsville instead. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:02, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

. Just like proud little Hatzic. There are four articles about things named for it, but the community itself doesn't have an article yet.--Canoe1967 (talk) 12:03, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Editing Information
I found a couple entries about my Association that had incorrect information about us, so I went ahead and edited them. Now I've found out that people are supposed to write or edit pages about themselves or their companies. If this is the case, what do I do when I see incorrect information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccpaaccp (talk • contribs) 18:52, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * For starters, you as an individual human being would have to get an account here; the corporate account for the CCPA has been blocked. As a human being, just mention on the talk page(s) of the article(s) involved what changes you feel should be made; providing reliable sources, disclosing as you do so your conflict of interest. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  19:18, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Link Change Request
Dear Webmaster,

We recently updated our page names to be more friendly and have improved the layout and architecture of our on-line resources.

Thank you for linking to EQECAT's resources on http://www.eqecat.com/catWatchREV/secureSite/report.cfm?id=368. I am writing to ask if you would update the link to the new page name http://www.eqecat.com/catwatch/nanmadol-causes-300-to-500-million-damage-talas-hit-japan-cat-2-2011-08-30/. This will take your website's reader directly to the page when they click on the link and will provide them with a better experience. This link appears on your page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Nanmadol_(2011).

Thank you in advance for passing this on to your IT team or Web department. If you have questions, please let me know how I can help.

Regards, Mia Sagan Office Manager — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.43.118.227 (talk) 19:18, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ Roger (talk) 19:26, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

My userpage
Why can't my userpage be about me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LevindyVegas (talk • contribs) 19:45, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Read the welcome note on your talk page, particularly the part about user page guidelines. Britmax (talk) 19:51, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * User pages can be about you; however, you should follow the guidelines at WP:User pages. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

ClueBot deleted my updates.
Hi - I made a lot of changes to a government program page (of which I am an employee tasked to do so) to update old/incorrect information and make the page look better since it had not been updated in a long time. After all this, I got a ClueBot note telling me it reverted all my changes, but I'm not sure why. How can I get my changes back, or at least prevent this from happening again? Everything I did was accurate and with permission. CChallenge (talk) 20:44, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You can look in the page history by selecting the history tab and recover your changes by editing and saving the previous version of the article. However, please ensure you read the conflict of interest policy. In general people associated with an organisation are discouraged from making large changes to articles (especially if they are in effect being paid to do so). QU TalkQu 20:56, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I meant to add, I did look at your edits and they look good, fair and balanced. You just need to be careful re. the possible conflict of interest and follow the advice below regarding your username. Thanks QU TalkQu 21:28, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid your username is in violation of the username policy - specifically that a username may not resemble the name of a corporation, organization or group. You need to change it asap. Roger (talk) 21:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You don't need "permission" from the subject of an article to edit that article. You do need our permission, meaning you should be careful to use reliable sources and be careful about neutral point of view, especially if you have a conflict of interest.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 18:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Adding an external link
I am getting more confused by the minute! You have a small article about Daniel Webster Whittle. I have found a well written, 5 pages, biography about D.W .Whittle. It is at    www.joy-bringer-ministries.org/hymns/EN.pdf His pen name was El Nathan & he worked with P.P. Bliss. His daughter married D.L. Moody's son, of Moody Bible Institute. Anyway, this pdf article really should be either copied into or linked into Wiki & I can't figure out what to do. I realize you have to have instructions for everything but I'm lost. Scole456 (talk) 21:59, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello, unless the content you have found is freely licensed with a license that is compatible with Wikipedia you cannot copy the content here. That would be a copyright violation and is taken very seriously. In order to link to an external piece of content you create the link like this A Title For The Link. However, before doing this please familiarise yourself with the policy on external links. Happy editing! QU <sup style="color:#306754;">TalkQu  22:03, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Long time but newly registered user wants to donate images to creative commons
OK, I am gong around in circles trying to donate some important images to the whole Wikipedia project and to the creative common. You have one of my websites on Mauston, WI's Boorman House linked here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Boorman_House I have high resolution digital images that were used in the pages linked above. I also have pictures of ancient petroglyph rock carvings from my area (West Central Wisconsin)...as in the West Central Wisconsin Community Webring http://www.wcwcw.com.

I also have much other material you might like and I would like to share. This is so difficult as I have been to the upload page and they say I'm not a confirmed use. I am about to give up trying to help.

22:25, 29 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sixa369 (talk • contribs)
 * Hello, if you wish to donate material that you are willing to release under the CC-BY-SA license then you can upload it at Wikimedia Commons by going here. Once uploaded your pictures can be used in any Wikimedia project, including Wikipedia. You do not need to be auto-confirmed to upload to Commons so you should be able to do it now. Be sure to select the right license and enter details of the source and owner of the copyright when you upload the pictures. The upload wizard found at the link I've given will take you painlessly through the whole process. Thanks in advance for your contribution <b style="color:#E66C2C;">QU</b> <sup style="color:#306754;">TalkQu 23:12, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Mattress
How do I get help with a mattress that I am not happy with? I is about two years old and has a ten year warrenty/ Mattress Source does not sell Sealy anymore so I was told to contact you per internet
 * I added a header for organization of the page. If you are serious about this question, I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Cresix (talk) 22:55, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

new artist page
hi wonder if you can help me quite new to wiki and i been reading through some of the documents but im a bit puzzle

basically i am part of a record label that has just signed a new singer and we have created a page for him here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_esa

now thing is i keep getting this message saying

This article is about a living person and appears to have no references. As of March 2010, all newly created biographies of living people must have at least one reference to a reliable source. If no reliable references are found and added within a ten-day grace period, this article may be deleted. This is an important policy to help prevent the retention of incorrect material. If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. Once the article has at least one reliable source, you may remove this tag. Find sources: GBooks · MSBooks · GScholar · MSAcademic · GNews recent · GNews old · NYT recent · NYT old · Wikipedia Reference Search Reviewer tools: policy project (Omar esa • talk • bio • log)   Move: incubate   Header: deprod checked checking   Footer: +references +external links This template was added Friday, 29 June; This article may be deleted on or after Monday, 9 July.

Notification of the article's author(s) is strongly recommended. Notification template: ==Proposed deletion of Omar esa==

The article Omar esa has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, all newly created biographies of living persons must have at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article. &#32; The nominator also raised the following concern:
 * All biographies of living people created after March 18, 2010, must have references.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. Sajidp81 (talk) 23:55, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

now could you tell me exactly how i can get past this or do to resolve this????
 * A couple of things. One, to "get past this" all you need to to is read the message and follow the directions: "Once the article has at least one reliable source, you may remove this tag."  So, just add references.  Also, you should not be creating this article because you have a conflict of interest since you are directly associated with him.  Athleek  123  00:00, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The main point is that if he is a new artist, he is almost certainly not notable by Wikipedia's standards, and therefore there may not be an article on him. Only if several independent reliable sources have already written significantly about the artist is such an article possible. Secondly you may not use Wikipedia to promote or publicise anything. Period. --ColinFine (talk) 19:46, 1 July 2012 (UTC)