Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 June 5

= June 5 =

Help with deleting revision
I want to delete the revision attributed to me and associated with the article at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenian_Genocide&oldid=495787044 How do I do it? There are no 'undo' buttons visible in the history. Thank you. Diranakir (talk) 00:14, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Why? "Just because", doesn't work, check out valid reasons WP:CRD. If one of the reasons apply, make a request at WP:RFO C T J F 8 3  00:18, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Diranakir claims that he did not make this revision himself, and that it is a forgery attributed to him by another editor. Maproom (talk) 10:41, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I am a volunteer mediator at WP:DRN. What Diranakir is claiming did not and can not happen. It is not possible for someone to modify a diff while leaving your name on it. (Admins can delete, nobody can modify.) This was explained to Diranakir in great detail by two different mediators at Dispute resolution noticeboard. Diranakir's continued false accusations against Gazifikator after being informed that they are impossible is bordering on WP:HARASSMENT. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

How do I add the "other languages" tab for a page that exists in other wikis????
The English Wikipedia page Daar doer in die bosveld exists in the Afrikaans Wikipedia and the Bahasa Indonesia Wikipedia but the English language version is not listed under the "Other Languages" tab in those wikis and there is no "other languages" tab on the English-language page. how do I add an "other languages" tab into the English page. Thanks for your help!Phuthaditjhaba (talk) 01:27, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * You may add the link using the following example: Wikipedia . Changing the "es" to say "fr" will take it to the French language link. I hope this helps, SwisterTwister   talk  01:31, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * (e/c) You would add to our article, near the bottom,   and  , then go to the two foreign article and add Daar doer in die bosveld to them. For more please see Help:Interwiki linking.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:35, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

how do you create a wikipedia?
how do you create a wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranecia2012 (talk • contribs)
 * See Requests for new languages, Language proposal policy and Language committee/Handbook (requesters)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:28, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * "create a wikipedia" means to create a whole new language version of the Wikipedia encyclopedia. If you only mean to create a Wikipedia article then see Your first article. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:39, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I interpreted this another way when I saw the question. I wonder if the person wants to start a wiki, not a Wikipedia? If so, I found this answer to a question about that.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 18:59, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Ocean acidification and rising CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere
Educational assignment tag has been placed. Why doesn't it show? Thanks n advance. Roshan220195 (talk) 01:54, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The tag needs to go on the talk page of the article, not the article itself. See the documentation at Educational assignment RudolfRed (talk) 01:58, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh ok.. Thnx!! Roshan220195 (talk) 02:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

tim burns 3rd degree
there are a number of articles about me that seem to be attributed to other tim burns's....what do i do about that... as far as i can tell i dont have a me in wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.181.2.132 (talk) 07:14, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean there are articles mentioning you but linking your name to another person named Tim Burns? If you are an artist then the links can be changed to red links by writing  which renders as Tim Burns. A red link signals that the subject does not have an article. See Autobiography if you consider writing an autobigraphy. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:26, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Simply put, unless you have been noted in reliable publications, you likely do not satisfy our notability guidelines. It's nothing personal, there's just no call to have an article on every person. &mdash;  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 14:10, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Editing MPNFL page
Hi, I have spent a few hours making the Mornington Peninsula Nepean Football League page a much better setup with more club colours. But every time I view the page. It goes back to the previous version. Even though my edits are in the history.

Help!

--CCFNS (talk) 08:13, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I see your changes. Try to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:14, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Main image isn't displayed correctly
Dear all,

for the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinterion I've replaced the logo (since we have a new one), the new one is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cinterion_logo.svg

As you can see, on the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinterion it is shown way too big, and when I open it directly (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Cinterion_logo.svg), the old logo is shown. What am I doing wrong?

Thank you! bemabe79 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bemabe1979 (talk • contribs) 08:34, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I have purged Cinterion Wireless Modules GmbH. That fixed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! But what needs to be done to fix the http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Cinterion_logo.svg? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bemabe1979 (talk • contribs) 09:18, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * What is wrong with it? It looks right to me. Try to bypass your own cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:36, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Perfect, now it works! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bemabe1979 (talk • contribs) 09:41, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I have chopped out of the article the "What is" section which was completely out of place in this article and had no references.--ukexpat (talk) 14:24, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

pl confirm if form3019A is submitted in favor of diigvijay singh a 88 east of kailash new delhi india
i have been contacted by mr. kudio vincent account officer of late cuma karaagas of turkey regarding the transfer of funds to my company PURE GOLD INC. NEW DELHI FOR investments in india.I HAVE DULY FILLED THE FORM 3019A FOR VERIFICATION BY YOU PL CONFIRM IF IT IS GENUINE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.161.81.139 (talk) 10:04, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Unless this is a transfer that you already know about and are expecting, this is almost certainly a scam, and I would advise you to ignore it. --ColinFine (talk) 19:25, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject as a one-man show
Do I need to get a clear consensus for setting up a WikiProject and if not, can I simply set up and run the WikiProject by myself, or is there a policy requiring that I gain consensus for the projects establishment first? Are one-man WikiProjects allowed? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:25, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Also note, the WikiProject I have in mind had 2 supports and 1 oppose? Can I start the project under that premise? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:29, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Without details, I can only refer you to WikiProject Council/Guide. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:33, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * WikiProjects are actually are actually there to maintain the content. It is pretty nonsensical to create one with you being the only member. Regards.-- GoP T C N 11:35, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * This is the project I have in mind. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * (ec)Is it a field that has a larger active project that already covers it? You could consider starting a taskforce within that project instead. But I'm not aware of anything against starting such a project per se, but considering projects are designed to be a place where editors can collaborate to make consensus and editing easier, starting a project of one seems a little self-defeating. You can start the project and invite people to join and contribute, but there'd be no one person in control.  Я ehevkor ✉  11:39, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The smallest Wikiprojects I have ever seen so far had 4 or 5 "signed up" participants. I suspect a project with fewer participants would simply not have enough momentum to last. Try to recruit at least two or three more participants before starting. A WikiProject with only one member makes no sense at all - one member has nobody to collaborate with. Roger (talk) 11:40, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I expect recruiting two or three more participants for this project should be quite difficult. Perhaps I should start something at VPR? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:45, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I shouldn't take this into consideration at this time, until the current discussion regarding NFCC has yielded some results. The outcome of that discussion might make it moot anyway. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:37, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Film Pages - Production Designers
hi there,

I love reading about films on wikipedia and as a film student i find it very helpful, however i do find it (as a design specialist) irritating and slightly offensive that nearly every head of department including producers, cinematographers, editors etc are in the info box on film ages except for production designers or art directors - is there a way to make this compulsory to film pages?

many thanks!

Jonathan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.127.199.95 (talk) 13:35, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * All parameters to Infobox film are optional so the infobox works if they haven't been added. Compulsory parameters for production designers or art directors are out of the question. Directors don't even have that. Optional parameters can be suggested at Template talk:Infobox film. Archive searches find for example Template talk:Infobox film/Archive 20. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:51, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Up to day photo of this area in at the National Zoo
I have a picture of my mom and dad taken at the national zoo back in 1960's and i'm looking for a particul area in the zoo from which they are standing.Today is the day 14 years ago of my dad's passing and i would like to update the photo with an up todate veiw of the area ? Could you send a link so that I may summit my photo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.126.147.9 (talk) 14:48, 5 June 2012 (UTC) 16:18, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Not sure that I understand your question. Do you want to upload the image to use it in an article?--ukexpat (talk) 15:15, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I would guess that the editor meant "submit" not "summit" and that this is indeed what he wishes to do. Britmax (talk) 16:54, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Which "National Zoo"? Roger (talk) 16:55, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The IP address locates to Britain, however I am not aware of any British Zoo known commonly as the "National Zoo". National Zoo currently redirects to Smithsonian National Zoological Park, which is most commonly known in the U.S. as simply "The National Zoo".  In the anglophone world, there is also the National Zoo & Aquarium in Canberra and the National Zoological Gardens of South Africa in Pretoria.  This search for "National Zoo" also turns up other possibilities.  -- Jayron  32  18:04, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The nearest thing we have to a National Zoo is London Zoo in Regent's Park. Britmax (talk) 20:22, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure where you get that the IP address is Britain, every lookup that I can find puts the physical location in the Washington DC Metropolitan area, and thus I'm pretty sure that it is the National Zoo that is part of the Smithsonian in Washington DC. I do know that the zoo has gone through several redesigns over the last 50 years, so it might be tricky. In any event, I'm not really sure how Wikipedia can help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naraht (talk • contribs)

War of 1812
It is very important that you add to your article the fact that Stephen Girard provided the funds to the US Government for the War of 1812 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.255.76.22 (talk) 16:30, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you have a reliable source for that?--ukexpat (talk) 16:45, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You'd probably be better off on the article's talk page. Don't forget to take your reliable source with you. Britmax (talk) 16:56, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

how can a student who has passed m.b.b.s. from india join your university
after doing m.b.b.s from india how can one persuade into biomedengeinrring — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.177.22 (talk) 19:17, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * This is not a university. This is Wikipedia, the encyclopaedia that anybody can edit. --ColinFine (talk) 19:27, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I have played a part (the Italian nanny) in The White Ribbon by Michael Haneke
May I be added in the cast list?.... :) Many thanks! Sara Schivazappa — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.153.146.175 (talk) 21:20, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * If there is a reliable published source which says that you did, then you may. (However, I notice that the existing cast list in The White Ribbon has very no references, and should be removed unless it can be referenced),
 * Normally you should not edit anything about yourself in any article - see WP:COI - but in this case, provided you can cite a reliable reference, I don't think there would be a problem in your editing it yourself. --ColinFine (talk) 21:44, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

External Link
Hi

I was thinking of including an external link to most references to the Brontë Sisters/Family. However, the page is a shop but it's being run in cooperation with Haworth Church (Resting place of Emily and Charlotte)(Brontë Family) and includes donations back to Haworth Church for the restoration fund directly linked to the Brontë Sisters. So is this OK to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yorkandbeyond (talk • contribs) 21:24, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * What exactly does it add to the article(s)? Being connected to the fund is noble, but unless it adds something to the article and qualifies per our external link guideline it shouldn't be used. It sounds unlikely to be of use if it's simply a store though. Cheers, Matthew (York).  Я ehevkor ✉  21:35, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Broken Page?
When I try to access the page on Lotronex (using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotronex), which is supposed to redirect to Alosetron, the page never loads, let alone redirect me to the correct page. I was able to get the redirect when I accessed the page from http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lotronex, though. Is this problem just happening to me? If so, is there actually a way to fix this problem? SilentDreamer11 (talk) 21:42, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It's loading perfectly well for me. Clear your cache perhaps? (just a thought, I've no idea whether it will help). --ColinFine (talk) 21:48, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

How to edit the lead title
How do I edit the lead title of a new page that I just created? Right now, the lead title says "User" followed by my username. Any ideas?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basever (talk • contribs) 21:45, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You cannot edit the title of a page: what you do is to move the page to the right place, which in this case would be Max Siegel (this link shows in red, because the article doesn't currently exist). However, don't do this! The article is nowhere near ready for release into main space, and would get deleted very quickly. First, it has no references at all, and therefore does not establish that the subject is notable by Wikipedia's standards, and also contravenes Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living people. Secondly, the tone is promotional and contains a number of peacock words.
 * What I do suggest is you move it to User:Basever/Max Siegel (a user subpage) to work on it further, as your user page is not supposed to contain articles. When you have added sufficient inline references, and rewritten the promotional parts of it, then you can consider moving it to main-space. --ColinFine (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Against the advice above you moved it to the mainspace. I opted to move it back rather than delete it under CSD G11. It's at User:Basever/Max Siegel. You need to do a lot of work before this is ready to "go live", if you want to make it stick. I will leave a note on your talk page about this.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:34, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Page Ratings unaccessible
After editing the "Maya art" article, I found that the Page Ratings are no longer accessible. What has happened?Retal (talk) 22:01, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * You and an IP has edited Maya art more than 30 times in the last day. This has probably caused ratings to expire. See mw:Article feedback/FAQ PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Uploading an image
Hi, I'm trying to upload an image to a page but can not, I believe due to the fact that I don't have the correct level of Wiki status to do so. Can someone help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomathon2012 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Your account should already be autoconfirmed and able to upload images both at Wikipedia and commons:. What happens at Upload? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * When, or should I say, how many edits ago did you try to do this upload that it failed? I ask because to be autoconfirmed requires, in addition to an account being 4 days old, having made at least ten edits. Your edit to this page is your eleventh, so I thought you might have tried to upload the images before your tenth edit on May 14, 2012. If so, that's probably the source of the problem, and it should be corrected now that you've passed the number of edits threshold.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Problems editing my Watchlist
I have noticed, since yesterday, that, when I try to view and edit my watchlist, I get a WikiMedia error page instead. Is there a problem with the watchlists -- or the editing of them? If I try to just view the watchlist, it loads fine. I haven't tried to edit the raw watchlist to find out if that loads correctly. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 23:37, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * If the problem is still happening, try asking at WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:00, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Creating article
Hello:

Is there a simple, straightforward way to place an article on Wikipedia? I have checked and there is nothing on this subject that currently exists on Wikipedia. The article appears below.

Thank you.

Dian Kiser

June Horton Gable Educator-Feminist-Fulbright Scholar 1920-2011

June Horton Gable was a remarkable educator and feminist who pointed the way to equal opportunity for girls and boys beginning in Sacramento, California and spreading throughout California and beyond.

Ms. Gable joined the Sacramento City School District as a junior high teacher in 1959. She became involved in feminism during the early days of the women’s movement, late 1960’s, and was president of the Sacramento Chapter of the National Organization for Women (NOW) from 1972-1974.

During her years with NOW, she assisted Sacramento City School District to win the first federal grant awarded to implement Title IX, a groundbreaking law banning gender discrimination in all school programs that receive federal funding. In 1976, she was appointed the district’s Title IX manager and assigned to eliminate bias in every aspect of education, including student activities, staff hiring, policies and written material. “We’ve seen great changes,” she told the Sacramento Bee in 1984. Now, words and ideas such as sexual stereotyping, role modeling and sexism—which were unknown…10 years ago—are read in newspapers and magazines and heard on radio, television and in movies.”

Ms. Gable’s support for opportunities for women took her around the world. She was a delegate to the 1975 United National Conference in Mexico City for International Women’s Year. She lectured on women’s right at the University of Cape Town in South Africa and spent three months as a Fulbright Scholar touring and writing about the role of women in India in 1977. She participated in global study projects throughout Asia, South America, Africa, Europe, the Middle East, Caribbean and the South Pacific.

Born in Brooklyn, New York, Gable moved as a child to Minnesota. Her earliest role model of a strong woman was her mother, who had quit school in the fifth grade to pick coal off railroad tracks in the Bronx to keep her family’s apartment warm in the winter. Gable attended the University of Minnesota and graduated Summa Cum Laude 1942 with majors in history, government and politics. She went on and completed her Master’s degree in 1945. She taught school in Iowa, San Bernardino and finally in 1950 accepted a teaching position in Sacramento City Unified School District. After the 1975 passage of Title IX, the federal gender equality law, SCUSD, under June’s leadership, became the first district in the United States to win federal funding to address inequities against women and girls. In 1976, as Title IX manager, she established a resource center which provided a wealth of resources, programming, and gender equity training for educators. Many of the resources she developed were distributed across the globe.

June Gable retired in 1987, receiving honors and recognition from the U.S. House of Representatives, the California Senate, the Sacramento City Council and Sacramento County Board of Supervisors. Within two months of retirement,  she accepted an appointment to serve on the California Commission on the Status of Women. For nine years, she was an ardent advocate for strengthening of women’s history in school curriculums.

June Horton Gable died at her home in Sacramento in 2011 at the age of 90.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dian Kiser (talk • contribs) 23:41, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, it looks like this will be a valuable article. But before this can go live, there's one thing you absolutely must do, and that's provide your references.  Referencing for beginners provides an accessible overview for new Wikipedia contributors.  I've copied your draft to your own personal sandbox at User:Dian_Kiser/Sandbox.  If you can add references there, you can ask here again and someone can make the article live for you.  Feel free to ask if you need anything.  Cheers, Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 01:07, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Monroe, LA
The location placed on the map is incorrect. Source: Google Maps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.177.231 (talk) 23:42, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. Deor (talk) 02:39, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

The movie "Blue Sky"
Jessica Lange played the role of Rama Laurie Stagner's mother

Everthing except the riDe on to the Nevada Test Site was based on my real life final years on active duty in the US Army. I was the Nuclear Advisor for the film and I am the father of Rama Laurie Stagner(See ArizonaStar newspaper article,fall of 1994). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.9.27.188 (talk) 23:51, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * P question.svg This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Miscellaneous reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. Also, please sign your posts with four tildes ( ~ ). 71.146.10.213 (talk) 05:13, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I think this is a suggestion for improvement to the article Blue Sky (film). Anybody may make contributions, but information must be verifiable from published reliable sources: personal recollection is not acceptable because readers have no way of checking it. You best course is to make the suggestion at Talk:Blue Sky (film) - but if you can find independent sources which support the information, that would be helpful. --ColinFine (talk) 11:04, 6 June 2012 (UTC)