Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 May 1

= May 1 =

Help with moving completed draft to Article
Hi there, I have become stuck trying to move my completed draft to an article and I'm not sure where I have gone wrong. The name of the Article is (Elwyn Richardson) - I would really appreciate your help in publishing this.

Many thanks Zzita (talk) 01:14, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You'd left the "user sandbox" template on the article; I've removed it. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  01:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

HELP PLEASE
I am trying to get into my wikipedia page but cannot. I have forgotten my password and it appears I have also forgotten my user name as everything I put in does not work.

The page I am referring to is for Graham V Rushton and/or Nor the Moon by Night 2013 a feature film.

The info on this page is now INCORRECT and I wish to delete the page entirely -- how do I do this without knowing my 'sign in' details?

My email is -- -- please contact me to sort this out.

I need to remove all info immediately as one of the people mentioned on their SI WALL who was the dirctor and is no longe ris threatenign to take leagal action if it is not removed.

Thank you Graham V Rushton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.231.88.192 (talk) 01:51, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I can find no evidence of any article about anybody by that name; and the only film by that name which we have an article about, was released in 1958. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  02:09, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the OP is talking about User:Graham V Rushton. GB fan 02:14, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The article NOR THE MOON BY NIGHT(2013) film was deleted in June 2011. Are you referring to User:Graham V Rushton? If it's your account then you can request a new password by mail at Special:PasswordReset. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:15, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * If you are talking about the Wikipedia article Graham Rushton, it was deleted, although if you are seeing a mirror of it elsewhere online, Wikipedia has no control over it. Dru of Id (talk) 02:17, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you go to a page that you know you edited, go to the history of that page, and see if you can find your user name?--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you also User:Grahamvic? -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  02:23, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

I blanked one user space page of questionable legal issues for now. Boldly and in good faith.--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

More feedback please
I've made some additional edits to User:Tomwfortune/Mercy Jets Worldwide Air Ambulance along with others who have contributed to its content. I am looking for some more feedback before submitting the page. Any thoughts, edits advice etc. would be much appreciated —Preceding undated comment added 03:43, 1 May 2012 (UTC).


 * You need more secondary sources to demonstrate notability.--ukexpat (talk) 04:43, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Citing primary sources via secondary sources
Hi, folks. I have a vague recollection of once reading a guideline about this, but I cannot find it. What is the protocol for citing a secondary source ('Jones') for an idea that has merely been borrowed from and referenced to a reliable primary source ('Smith')? (e.g., 'Smith said in his 2005 essay that the Sun is big.' --Jones) Ideally I would cite Smith's article, but what if Smith published on a website that is now defunct and has no archive? Can I cite Jones' characterization of Smith? NTox · talk 03:57, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Would WP:PRIMARY help? I'm not sure if that addresses exactly what you're looking for, but it's just my try. AndieM    (Am I behaving?)  07:19, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The guideline you're thinking of is probably WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Deor (talk) 14:46, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. That's a good one, but not quite it. I'm wondering what to do when the reliable primary source has gone defunct, but the information still exists in the secondary source. NTox · talk 19:01, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * It is general scholarly practice to cite a primary source that is quoted or summarized in a secondary source, if the scholar cannot obtain access to the primary source. Also, even if the secondary source does not integrate the primary source into its work, the mere fact that the secondary source decided the primary source was worth mentioning may be significant. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:11, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. This is helpful. NTox · talk 19:23, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Karla Turner
The article I want help with is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Karla_Turner

I just added that article. I copied and pasted it from the article posted at http://www.thefullwiki.org/Karla_Turner

That article (from the fullwiki) gives the following reference: "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"

Therefore it seems that this article was originally posted on Wikipedia and was deleted. Is this true?

In any case, Why did Wikipedia have no article about Karla Turner -- such a famous writer? Was there previously ANY article on Karla Turner that was deleted? If there was an article before, is it possible someone deleted it though the desire to censor the UFO work she did?

CLARIFICATION: I have just put that article on Wikipedia with the understanding that it was here (on Wikipedia) before and was deleted. Nevertheless, in the "talk" section I can see this:

"A tag has been placed on Dr. Karla Turner requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a clear copyright infringement..."

Please help me solve this mystery! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shyambecker (talk • contribs) 06:52, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * It was previously deleted as a result of this Afd discussion: Articles for deletion/Karla Turner. --ukexpat (talk) 06:55, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * And has now been re-deleted, as a recreation of a page that was deleted as a result of the deletion discussion at Articles for deletion/Karla Turner. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  12:51, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

open search
Why can I no longer do an open search on my mobile phone? If i type in a word that does not already contain an article I'm left clicking the search button repeatley to no avail, it's extremely annoying. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.109.198.73 (talk) 09:28, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Try Village pump (technical).— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:47, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Replacement for  ?
Help:HTML in wikitext states:


 * "  (deprecated) Indicates presentation in a fixed-width font"

But what should be used instead of  ? --Mortense (talk) 09:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * For which purpose? I see you are a software engineer. See WikiProject Computer science/Manual of style. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:10, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * This is not related to source code. An example would be inline formatting (in normal text) of the name of a checkbox in a Windows program (whether or not this should be monospaced is another matter). --Mortense (talk) 15:17, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * You can use  tags for that . It changes the background color a little but that's fine for this purpose. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * If you are considering to create a new article then see Your first article. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * If you are considering to create a new article then see Your first article. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 2 May 2012 (UTC)