Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 May 31

= May 31 =

Please delete previous versions of images
Administrators, please delete previous versions of images of File:Bubu Jingxin (covers).jpg, File:Birds of Prey (TV series).jpg, File:Scream (franchise logo).jpg, and File:Underworld (film logo).jpg. Thanks.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 02:29, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I see you've already tagged the images with, it means an Admin will delete them after the delay has expired. They manage these logs, you don't need to manually notify admins that there are previous non-free revisions to delete, and even if you did, the Help Desk may not be the best way to reach an admin. Their noticeboard would be a better way, but as mentioned, there is no need to post it manually yourself. :)  Salvidrim!   02:36, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The Scream and Underworld logos are pretty clearly PD-TEXT and I have edited the file info pages accordingly.--ukexpat (talk) 13:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

File removal
How does one go about getting a photo removed that was use to harras someone else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrkosher (talk • contribs)
 * Tell us about it and if it's a local image (i.e., not a Wikimedia Commons image), one of us will delete it if we deem it appropriate. If it's at the Commons, we can explain how to nominate it for deletion or nominate it ourselves. Again, it depends on how we judge the merit. Note also the various criteria for speedy deletion applicable to files, and Files for deletion where deletion is discussed. It's all very difficult to predict without the specifics.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Citing game show "Correct Answers"
On multiple occasions I've considered creating an account in order to merely provide a detail not contained in the appropiate Wikipedia article, albeit trivia of medium importance. On these occasions the detail was the correct answer on the show "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire". I'm starting to think the show researchers especially like to find facts not included in Wikipedia. I wish to learn the recommendation(s) of experienced editors to this consideration. To put it simply, should I bother? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.28.189.4 (talk) 05:54, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * First, you do not have to create an account in order to edit Wikipedia, though there are advantages if you do so. Anybody may edit an article, though there are some things that are more likely to make your edit stick:
 * The most important point is that everything you add should be referenced to a reliable source so that anybody may verify its accuracy: personal knowledge, and original research is not sufficient. Being given as an answer on a quiz show is probably not considered a reliable source, but maybe you could research the answer and find a better source?
 * An edit is less likely to be mistaken for vandalism if you give a meaningful edit summary when you commit your change.
 * If you have information but do not feel competent to make the change (eg if you are unsure how to give references) a suggestion is to start a section on the article's talk page explaining what you want to add, and how this can be verified. --ColinFine (talk) 10:45, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Questions on article details
I read this in the story on Jayne Mansfield, but do not understand who sued who and don't know where I go to try to get the answer. Does this mean Jayne and Matt somehow sued the driver of their car, the truck they ran into, someone sued them or who sued what and who got the money when the two of them were dead? I can't figure out in this massive amount of items to read where we can or if we can ask about the articles as I see past people were able to do somehow. "In 1968, two wrongful-death lawsuits were filed on behalf of Jayne Marie Mansfield and Matt Cimber. The former for $4.8 million ($39.7 million in 2012 dollars[12]) and the latter for $2.7 million ($22.3 million in 2012 dollars[12]).[179]" Cantsayit (talk) 07:05, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The sentence in the article Jayne Mansfield has a reference to The New York Times, p. 22. June 23, 1968. It appears that NYT archives of that date are not available online without payment; but if you are interested enough to buy the article you will be able to get the details. Alternatively you might find it is available at a public library near you. A quick Google suggests to me that everywhere else on the web that refers to these suits is just quoting the Wikipedia article, but I may be wrong. --ColinFine (talk) 10:56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Search blurbs from The New York Times article shows: "A $4.8-million damage suit has been filed in Federal Court here in connection with the death of Jayne Mansfield, Z the actress. W, W. Pigue is seeking $1.3-milllon as guardian of the actress s daughter, Jayne Marie. Matt Cimber, guardian of another child, Antonio, is seeking $2.7-milllon." I don't know whether any money were rewarded or anything else. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:35, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * More detail on these matters is answered in this book.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:25, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Urgent Help
Dear Wikipedia team,

We have Problem With an article on wikipedia about our president, someone using wikipedia for attack him,

Someone adding "Unfounded Allegations" to that articles.

3 years ago we had won that court about rape case. We had won court about that, user still show about it.

We need your help.

Regards, Sertel SIRACI Attorney at law www.sertels.av.tr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sertelsiraci (talk • contribs) 07:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The rape accusations (and his complete exoneration) are a matter of public record, reported in numerous news sources. Wikipedia endeavours to report, in as neutral a manner as possible, the facts and events recorded in reliable sources; although the title of the section is somewhat circumspect, the content is both neutrally sourced and very clear that bin Talal was not guilty of the crime. I suggest taking this issue up on the article talkpage; other editors of the article might be persuaded that the events are sufficiently insignificant as to warrant exclusion, but in all honesty, I doubt it. Bin Talal's acquittal forms part of his biographical history, and so its inclusion will probably be staunchly defended. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 10:45, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Renaming a page
Hi, I was wondering if someone might be able to help me please. Zurich Financial Servies, have recently changed their name to Zurich Insurance Group: http://www.zurich.com/ therefore I want to alter the name on the Spanish page from ZFS to Zurich Insurance Group http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zurich_Financial_Services and their doesn't appear to be the move page button. Does anyone know how I go about changing it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GraRey (talk • contribs) 08:53, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * At the Spanish Wikipedia you apparently need 50 edits to become autoconfirmed and able to move pages. Requested moves has an interlanguage link to es:Wikipedia:Páginas para renombrar which says you can make a move request with es:Plantilla:Renombrar. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Sortable Table - Any way to make this work?
I'm interested in making the seasons on this table sortable with the over header "Season". Not a huge deal, could replace "1", "2", and "3", with "Season 1", etc. Would just prefer to do it this way. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I've left a message at WT:FLC to see what can be done. I tried and failed; I could get 1, 2 and 3 to sort if they were over the word "season" but not otherwise.  Incidentally, you ought to use sortname to sort the people by surname. BencherliteTalk 12:39, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * For the actors you mean? Good point. Thanks for sending a message, I too can only get the top field to sort, and not any below it. So it will sort by ALL the seasons, but not the individual ones. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 12:42, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure it will only work if Season is on the lower of the two rows, with 1, 2 and 3 above, like Bencherlite suggests: that's what all the featured lists I can see use in this circumstance.  Harrias  talk 15:06, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, thank you for the input Darkwarriorblake (talk) 19:08, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello there
Hi Wikipedians! I'm a new user here. Can someone please help me how to create useful articles on Wikipedia??? Furko Nellis (talk) 13:04, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Welcome. You could try a few of these: Most wanted articles.--Canoe1967 (talk) 14:44, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Take a look at WP:Your first article. Welcome on board. Roger (talk) 14:50, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Why still redlink?
Hi, article 2008-09 Liga Indonesia Premier Division have PROD and deleted years ago. 3 days ago I ask the admin to restore, and he restored it. But not with the talk page. I expanded the article at my pagespace, and later moved it to article space. I also create a new talk page. But why its still redlink if i search?. I also create DYK template this, why its still red link? Please fix it. Thanks. &#42;Annas* (talk) 13:36, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Because the article title had a – and you were typing a - . To prevent this happening again, I have added a redirect from the "-" form. BencherliteTalk 13:39, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks &#42;Annas* (talk) 13:50, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

change a photo
My boss is featured on Wikipedia and would like to provide a more flattering photo. How can I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.225.227.208 (talk) 13:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Click on the photo, at the bottom will be an option to upload a newer version. That'll take you to an upload page where you can add your new photo. Though it still needs all the appropriate release info. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 14:02, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * General image advice follows:


 * If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
 * If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add  to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing   with the actual file name of the image, and   with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.--ukexpat (talk) 14:10, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Commons:Photographs of identifiable people has most of the rules.--Canoe1967 (talk) 14:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Old talk pages
I have noticed that some of the first posts in older talk pages don't have a header and show above the TOC. I have added a 'First post' header with a note and signature just below. Is this normal and should I keep doing it?--Canoe1967 (talk) 14:05, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * That's fine. I usually read the post and add a descriptive header but don't sign it. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Photographs Copyright.
Hello!

I'm a resident in the UK who's writing an article for the Greek Wikipedia. Am I allowed to make use of photos appearing in the Wiki archive as being in the public domain over here in that article? Many thanks! Ryepeck (talk) 14:44, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Please specify the photos so that we may evaluate their status. Roger (talk) 14:53, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Dornier_Do17Z_over_West_Ham.jpg & File:WWII London Blitz East London.jpg . Ι take it there's no general rule then! Ryepeck (talk) 16:19, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Both of these images are free for you to use on the Greek Wikipedia, the first bearing a free copyright license, and the second being in the public domain. There is a difference though in the mechanics of using them. The second image is hosted at the Wikimedia Commons (where all suitably free and public domain files should be uploaded), and because of that, you can use it directly at the Greek Wikipedia, using the normal image markup to display images on that Wikipedia project. The first, by contrast, is a "local image", hosted on the English Wikipedia. It's still a free image, but in order for you to access it for display on the Greek Wikipedia it either needs to be transferred to the Commons, or you would need to upload it to the Greek Wikipedia—again, though, it's much better if hosted at the Commons so all projects have access to it. I do not have time now but if no one else does it, I will transfer it there later today (in about 6 hours or so).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:39, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryepeck (talk • contribs) 18:24, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I uploaded a new version of the first one from the same source, same file number at a higher resolution.--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:39, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * So it turns out that there is already the same image at the Commons and in about the same resolution as the one Canoe1967 uploaded. See File:Dornier 17 bombers over West Ham.jpg so you should be good to go now. Meanwhile, not quite sure what to do with the local image which is tagged for a move to the Commons but that would be redundant and not only that but duplicative.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:38, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * That's why we invented the db-f8 template. Nyttend (talk) 00:32, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Hysterectomy page
I messed up the reference section and the undo didn't work. The one added should be 62. First 61 disappeared. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.235.222.60 (talk) 16:02, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * User:Yobol fixed it. -- Neil N   talk to me  18:26, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

African Women's Handball Championship
there is something gone wrong with the table in section Participating nations. I is not even good enough to templates / tables, so a little help with the section I'd be happy.--109.232.72.49 (talk) 16:33, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * What is wrong with it? Somebody has added a big empty table for 2014 and later. Are you referring to this? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:04, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. --109.232.72.49 (talk) 13:27, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. That's more of a questionable choice than "something gone wrong". I have removed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:16, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Abergavenny Food Festival
I couldn't find the entry for the Abergavenny Food Festival for a while because the posted title is "User:Festival uk/Abergavenny Food Festival" Just so someone knows ... Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.94.189.234 (talk) 17:36, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * User:Festival uk/Abergavenny Food Festival is not an article in our encyclopedia. It's a user subpage. Many editors work on drafts in user subpages. I don't know the intention of User:Festival uk. Special:Contributions/Festival uk shows no edits since March. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:10, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

hello
love your article on michael j. fox been a fan of his for years loves his movies and tv shows i hope he is well and his family  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.166.172 (talk) 18:13, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Reporting a user
A user and me are having a disagreement, I've told him valid reasons and why he is wrong but all he is doing is writing innappropiate comments on the article's summary and on its user talk page and my talk page. Where do I go to report a this user?  GoPurple  'n  Gold24   18:25, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:WQA. -- Neil N   talk to me  18:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The two of you have both passed the three-revert rule. Might be a good idea to give it a rest today and take a different approach to this tomorrow - for a start try engaging the other party in a discussion on the article talk page, rather than immediately reverting their efforts (even if you do think they are wrong).  Astronaut (talk) 18:48, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I have already explained it on its talk page but it does not help, instead its just writing inappropriate comments. I did not revert any of its edits today because of the three-revert rule.  GoPurple  'n  Gold24   19:16, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Try following the steps for dispute resolution at WP:DR RudolfRed (talk) 19:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Should I report his inappropriate comments?  GoPurple  'n  Gold24   20:25, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Account Access
My username and password are not working. How can I resolve this problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.83.49.178 (talk) 18:27, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * What is your username? Did you enter an e-mail when you registered? Ruslik_ Zero 18:29, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Have a look through the various suggestions at Help:Logging in. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:51, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Problem going live
I've composed an article in my Sandbox and when it was ready I clicked 'Save Page'. I expected the article to become accessible to the public there and then but it disappeared. I still have the text in my Sandbox, however. The FAQ mentions 'moving' and 'naming' but I'm not clear what this involves. I must have omitted some vital procedures. Please can anyone advise? The article is titled 'Lumiere & Son'.

Genepez (talk) 18:46, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You would be better off holding on until the article is ready for the encyclopedia. In its present form it lacks any references, as well as wikilinks to names, terms and entities. It's not ready for prime time. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The article is not gone. It is at User:Genepez/sandbox.  It will remain in your sandbox until you WP:MOVE it to the regular article namespace.  In my opinion, you should not do that though since your article lacks any sources whatsoever.  See Referencing for beginners.  Dismas |(talk) 18:54, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * It would also help if the opening section stated what this company does. Or the fact that it is a theatre company, if it is one. Maproom (talk) 21:23, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

How to claim an edit
I didn't realize that I wasn't signed in and made an edit. Is there a way of claiming it without waiting for the bot to do it? Zephalis (talk) 18:47, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm curious how you think a bot would associate an IP edit with your user name. What bot have you seen do this?  You're not referring to the bot that tags unsigned posts to talk pages, and this page, with the unsigned template, are you?  Dismas |(talk) 18:51, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was the bot I was referring to. I didn't realize it was only for talk pages or exactly how it worked. I assumed it was just a bot that saw logins and compared the IP to recent posts and corrected it (although I do see the potential problems with that as well). Zephalis (talk) 19:14, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * As described at WP:LOGGEDOUT, you can make a dummy edit and use the edit summary to explain that the previous IP edit was yours. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks...that's exactly what I was looking for. Zephalis (talk) 19:14, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Alternatively if the edit was a talk page message you can also sign the previous edit "as if" done while logged-in by inserting four tildes after the message.  Salvidrim!   20:35, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

How the blazes did I manage that?
This edit seems to show me adding an image - which I did - and also adding Bold text at the bottom of the page - which I'm pretty certain I didn't. Any theories as to how I managed this impressive feat of subconscious typing would be appreciated. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 19:49, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd guess you accidentally clicked the "B" button on the edit toolbar while the text cursor was at the end of the text. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Always an easy thing to do; I've done it plenty of times. Nyttend (talk) 00:34, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Never knew it did that. Thanks for supplying the solution! Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 07:06, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Request for Feedback Please?
For the Appalachian State University page so I can improve it to hopefully A-class or better? DavidSSabb (talk) 19:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Is there an advert noticeboard?
Is there a noticeboard about articles written like adverts/spec-sheets? Pam-Crash is what I want to list on some noticeboard. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 21:06, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has millions of articles and they aren't all great. This doesn't rise to the level of a noticeboard. At Template messages/Cleanup are various message boxes which can be placed on articles with problems. This one already contains and is listed in Category:Articles with a promotional tone from November 2011, and in Category:All articles with a promotional tone with around 15000 other articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:17, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * There's no noticeboard for advertising in general, but for self-promotion there is Conflict of interest/Noticeboard, and for bias/point-of-view there is Neutral point of view/Noticeboard. But as PrimeHunter mentions, unless it's a really serious issue, or you need help figuring out what to do, you're better templating the article, which will let people know not to trust the article, and guide anyone who wants to improve it.  (In my experience, noticeboards don't always get a fast response.) --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:50, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The article hasn't been edited in five months. The noticeboards are for current issues with other editors. If you want to improve the article then go ahead and don't consider a noticeboard unless you meet opposition. If you want others to improve it then it's already tagged as written like an advertisement with a request to improve it, and you don't have to do anything. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:03, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Errors & bias in article on Anthony Bennett (English politician)
I have complained previously about the Wikipedia article about me which appears yet again to have been complied by those hostile towards my campaigns.

This is the entry as it stands:

On 1 August 2007, three months after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Lagos, Portugal, Bennett set up a fund called The Madeleine Foundation to fund a private prosecution for alleged child neglect.[30] In November 2007, he started such a prosecution against the parents of Madeline - Gerry and Kate McCann.[31] The initial hearing was at Loughborogh Magistrates Court where the application was dismissed on the grounds that it was a matter for the Portuguese authorities, and thus beyond the jurisdiction of British courts.[32]

The foundation was formally constituted in January 2008 with Bennett as secretary. One of the actions for which Tony Bennett and the Foundation were vilified by the UK Press was the leafletting of the village of Rothley where the McCanns live.[33] He referred the articles in the UK media, which referred to him and others in the Madeleine Foundation as "sickos" and "stalkers", to the PCC [34] The PCC replied that the newspapers had been justified in referring to him and other members of the Foundation in those terms. [35] After receiving letter from libel lawyers Carter-Ruck dated 27 August 2009, Bennett gave an undertaking "Not to repeat allegations that the McCanns are guilty of, or are to be suspected of, causing the death of their daughter Madeleine McCann, and/or of disposing of her body, and/or lying about what happened and/or seeking to cover up what they had done".[36]

He is currently being pursued for a breach of his undertaking to the High Court by Carter Ruck on behalf of the McCanns.[37] Tony Bennett could face jail over his continued leafletting and alleged harassment of the parents of missing Madeleine McCann.[38]

This would be a much more accurate and balanced entry: (I have not had time to supply references, but once I hear from you, I will be pleased to supply them)

In November 2007, six motnhs after Madeleine McCann was reported missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz he applied for a summons alleging child neglect against her parents - Drs Gerry and Kate McCann.[31] His application to the Leicestershire and Rutland Magistrates Court was dismissed on the ground that the court could not be certain whether it had jurisdiction, the alleged offences having taken place in Portugal. [32]

In January 2008, Bennett helped to set up a membership organisation - an unincorporated association - called The Madeleine Foundation in order to campaign for the truth about what really happened to Madeleine McCann.[30] Bennett became its Secretary. On 7 December 2008, Bennett and the Foundation published the controversial book 'What Really Happened to Madeleine McCann? - 60 reasons which suggest she was not abducted'. One of the actions for which Tony Bennett and the Foundation were vilified by the UK press was leafletting some houses in the village of Rothley, where the McCanns live.[33] He referred the articles in the UK media, which referred to him and others in the Madeleine Foundation as "sickos" and "stalkers", to the PCC.[34] The PCC replied that the newspapers had been justified in referring to him and other members of the Foundation in those terms.[35] After receiving a letter from libel lawyers Carter-Ruck dated 27 August 2009, Bennett gave an undertaking to the High Court in November 2009 "Not to repeat allegations that the McCanns are guilty of, or are to be suspected of, causing the death of their daughter Madeleine McCann, and/or of disposing of her body, and/or lying about what happened and/or seeking to cover up what they had done".[36] He also undertook to cease selling his book.

In January 2010, he published a second book: 'The Madeleine McCann Case Files: Volume 1". He is currently being pursued for a breach of his undertaking to the High Court by Carter Ruck on behalf of the McCanns.[37] Tony Bennett could face jail over continued publications which are said by the McCanns to breach his undertaking, [38]while Bennett has responded by applying to be released from some of the undertakings he gave. A trial was fixed for 9 & 10 May 2012 but was adjourned so that Bennett could apply for Legal Aid.

PLEASE CONTACT ME ASAP TO ENSURE THE ARTICLE IS CORRECTED AND BECOMES MORE BALANCED - Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony Bennett (talk • contribs) 21:21, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Nobody is likely to contact you: that's not how Wikipedia works. Almost all discussion takes place on the various talk and administrative pages of the wiki itself.
 * The best place to bring this up is on the article's talk page, where people who have contributed to the article are more likely to see it. (Thank you for not editing the article directly - that would be strongly discouraged, by our policy on conflict of interest. Ideally all articles contain only verifiable information, and are written from a neutral point of view, but sometimes articles fall short of these goals, and anybody may improve them. But somebody closely associated with the subject of an article may have a very different idea from others of what constitutes "neutral", which is why such a person is discouraged from editing the article directly.)
 * I have not looked in detail at the article or your proposed revision; but I observe that the first place that it differs is that you have removed reference to your having set up the fund in August. But that fact appears to be well-referenced, so it is not clear to me why it should not appear in the article. But I am not familiar with the subject, so it would be much better for you to engage with people who are watching the article, on its talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 23:26, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * It seems a reasonably fair article to me. If there are specific statements in it that you believe to be false, please state what they are and provide evidence for your claim (do this either here or on the article's talk page).  But your changes don't seem to significantly challenge the article's account of events, so it is hard for me to see what specifically you are objecting to. The only difference I can see is that you want the article to mention your books - is this correct? --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:57, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Addition to an existing page
How doe one add information to an existing page? I would like to add information about my son who is a notable graduate of Nordonia High School.

Interested — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.100.17.206 (talk) 22:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The "edit" button at the top of the page will let you edit it. Please read the guidelines on conflict-of-interest before you edit.  You can also add a note to the article's talk page describing the changes you're suggesting. RudolfRed (talk) 22:33, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Editing Help - James Skinner
I made some changes to a paragraph in James Skinner's (Zambian Jurist) entry and when I saved the changes the text is formatted as a single long line running off the page. Help how do I fix this ? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&editintro=Wikipedia:Help_Desk/editintro# — Preceding unsigned comment added by CWRSkinner (talk • contribs) 23:35, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It's fixed. You cannot start a paragraph with an indent or it formats like that. On talk page such as this one where a person responding to another indents one level (as in this post), it is done with starting the paragraph with a colon (successive colons increase the indent level). If you want to learn a bit more about formatting and editing, please consider a pass at the Tutorial. The WP:CHEATSHEET is also useful once you have some familiarity.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:54, 31 May 2012 (UTC)