Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 November 28

= November 28 =

Help:Magic
Why does the magic suffix trick not work with apostrophes — i.e. Professors renders as Professors but Professor's renders as Professor's instead (the 's doesn't become part of the wikilink)? Is that a bug, or is the difference in behavior intentional? If either is the case, where is that documented so I can read more about it? -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 00:01, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure whether it's intended, but you can read more at Help:Link. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 00:13, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * It's intended. See 14655. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:20, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

David Rodriguez (heavyweight boxer)
After repeated attempts to remove unjust information, someone continues posting on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaboom (talk • contribs) 00:37, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * See WP:DR for guidance RudolfRed (talk) 01:40, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * On a quick look, it appears to me that your removals were justified (it was unreferenced negative information about a living person) but that because you didn't give an edit summary explaining it, Jack Greenmaven reverted your change. Then Yworo came along and made the change again, this time with an edit summary, so the changes you wanted are now in. I may be misreading the history, but that is what I think happened. --ColinFine (talk) 11:40, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Move edit history (somehow), or start again?
Greetings, keepers of the flame!

Short question: Is it possible for me to transfer the edit history from my user page draft to its new home in article space at The Miracle (1912 film)?

Longer explanation:
 * Created draft article with (I later realised) wrong name.
 * Realised & forgot this might cause problems with automated upload.
 * Sudden desire to publish.
 * Created ordinary new article with 'correct' name.
 * Copied draft text to new article & saved.
 * Hmm, thinks, edit history...?

Possible answer: Delete new article and start over again in an approved manner.

Alas! The Microsoft-surpassing impenetrability of WP:HELP (apparently written for übergeeks© by 1331 nerd gods™) has defeated me, and I seek your guidance. > MinorProphet (talk) 03:19, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I've just tagged it for repair, and an administrator should fix it shortly. Whenever this happens, a request should be made by placing at the top of the new page. Please see Cut and paste move repair holding pen for more information. The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 03:29, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I knew it had to be easy. Thank you for your prompt, efficient and courteous reply. > MinorProphet (talk) 04:03, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, remember in the future you can just use the move button to transfer your draft, and all its history to article space. (though that is no longer the solution here) Monty  845  04:57, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks to everyone for their help and useful suggestions. > MinorProphet (talk) 12:35, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Image took from a film promotion event
I used to pro about copyright, but it was a long time ago. So, if my friend took an image of artist who join a film promotion event, and that image includes some posters of the film in background (like this), is that image a free image for Wikipedia?-- Lê   talk -contributions 04:55, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe not. On Wikipedia Commons, I have noticed a picture of the interior of an art gallery, in which the sections of the image showing the art works have been smudged out to avoid breaching their artists' copyrights. Maproom (talk) 17:13, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Suggestions for Brazil Nut page and information
After searching a lot for the provision to give my feedback/ suggestion, I have to write my suggestion about a page and info on Brazil Nuts here: In the Nutritional content details about Brazil Nut, Selenium has not been mentioned atall. It is surprising as Brazil nuts are a good source of Selenium, an antioxidant. I request you to provide details about Selenium in it. Selenium is found to be beneficial for Hashimotos thyroiditis, which can be provided by a brazil nut per day. Thanking you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dietconscious (talk • contribs) 05:36, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Be bold! Good luck. --76.189.101.221 (talk) 05:49, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

La Sierra High School
In 1954, Carmichael, CA La Sierra high school opened it was one of the first schools to mandate physical fitness. I would like to see that our school is recognized. It unfortunately closed in 1983 due to decreased enrollment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.104.40.226 (talk) 06:56, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * You can create an account and then start the article yourself. You can also get help in creating an article at the Teahouse. I see there's an article about a different La Sierra High School. Carmichael, California mentions LSHS in the High schools section, which says it operated from 1957 to 1984. By the way, you should sign all your comments by clicking on the blue pencil icon at the top of the edit box. Or type four tildes (~) . Good luck! --76.189.101.221 (talk) 09:07, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Searching for a definition
How search for defination of Internal controls — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.143.155.57 (talk) 10:04, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Does Internal control help?--ukexpat (talk) 14:21, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Definition of Internal controls and the reference
“Control processes are the policies, procedures, and activities that are part of a control framework, designed to ensure that risks are contained within the risk tolerances established by the risk management process. Risk management is a process to identify, assess, manage, and control potential events or situations to provide reasonable assurance regarding the achievement of the organization's objectives”. As defined by Institute of Internal Auditors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.143.155.57 (talk) 10:13, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Fine. This is Help Desk. Do you have any question about how to use or edit Wikipedia. -- Anbu121 ( talk me ) 10:41, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The OP asked the question just before the section title, and answered him/herself nine minutes later. Makes our job so much easier!  Rojomoke (talk) 13:17, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Cleanup question
Hello! Could you explain me, please. I created an article according to Wiki's instructions but it is still scheduled for cleanup. What is my mistake? I created it myself and the article is not for promotion, but for helping Russian Internet-business to do there work better and oppose to piracy, because it is one of important problem in RUnet. My article bases on Russian and Western sources.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by NoWindows (talk • contribs) 14:20, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * . From a quick look: spelling errors, punctuation of references (refs come after punctuation), copyediting for English grammar and flow.--ukexpat (talk) 14:24, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * - I've made a start but more than half of the references are Russian and about 25% of the article could be deleted as advertising so far. Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 15:42, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * "Helping [...] business to do their work better and oppose to piracy" is explicitly not what Wikipedia is for. If you look at WP:PROMOTION, you will see that by "promotion" we do not just mean commercial advertising, but also advocacy of any kind. --ColinFine (talk) 15:48, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

✅You now have an article...not a big article, but an article. FYI tone down the WP:Advertising-like sections to avoid repeats of losing lots of your added article content in future and be more careful to edit neutrally with a conflict of interest. Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 16:52, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Difference between line under "Anne Main" and "Anne Main MP"
To whom it may concern,

I work for Anne Main MP; a UK politician. The only issue with Mrs Main's page is that when it is searched for under Anne Main on an external search engine it comes up with the appropriate line "(born 17 May 1957) is a Conservative Party politician in Britain. She was elected at the 2005 general election as the Member of Parliament". However searched under Anne Main MP it comes up with "St Albans & Harpenden Review - St Albans MP Anne Main's full interview with John Lyon, November 2009, in which she states that "My family are based in our...". Both these links refer to the same page however in the first instance it gives the basic information the same as any other person on Wikipedia however in the second a bizarre section of the text is used. I was hoping that the Anne Main MP search could give the same information as Anne Main search.

Thank you.

Joe Cawley — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoeCawley (talk • contribs) 14:22, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * We cannot help with that - Wikipedia has no control over how external search engines present their results. Also, please read WP:COI - you are strongly advised not to edit the article but to use the article's talk page to suggest changes to the article.--ukexpat (talk) 14:26, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) If you use a search engine like Google then the search engine and not Wikipedia chooses which blurb to display. They chose a place where "Anne Main" and "MP" were written closely together. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:29, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Cawley has been warned about COI; and the Main article has been tagged to alert readers to his tinkering with it. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  16:20, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

star trek tos actors obits
i am not good with computers i hope this gets to the right people. i am trying to get someone to supply me with obits on st-tos actors, especially the uncredited co-stars. starting in 1967 and up to the present. thanx. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.127.184.116 (talk) 14:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * There is a wiki devoted to Star Trek (and not connected with Wikipedia) at http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Portal:Main - that may be your best hope for such information.--ukexpat (talk) 14:57, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

How to donate to wikipedia
I'm interested in making a donation, but I could not find your bitcoin address. Where is it posted? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.131.90.245 (talk) 15:25, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't look like there is one. However, there are other ways to donate here. - a boat   that can float!   (watch me float)  15:32, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

New Page
How do I write a new Wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by A Japour (talk • contribs) 15:46, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * See WP:YFA RudolfRed (talk) 16:08, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Author of 2 bestselling trilogies not listed, nor the books.
I am the author of 2 bestselling series and am currently ranked in the top 40 of book sales for fantasy authors at the number one book seller in the world. It would be wrong for me to write my own bio/book entries. I just donated to wiki and would gladly donate more in exchange for some help. Here is my amazon author page link that shows that sales ranking (Scroll down... It is updated hourly) I am quite infamous on the internet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.28.159 (talk) 17:15, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does not accept money in exchange for articles. The criteria is that the subject must be notable.  You can request an article at WP:RA. RudolfRed (talk) 17:51, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That word "infamous": I do not think it means what you think it means. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * When in doubt, quote Inigo Montoya. --kelapstick(bainuu) 18:54, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Priceless...from the now redacted link: "He shared his considerable knowledge of self-promotion in publishing The First Ten Steps." --Onorem♠Dil 18:44, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * You might be wondering why the replies above are a bit unfriendly. The reason is that for many people who volunteer their time to the Wikipedia project, promotion, and especially self-promotion, is second only to vandalism as the antithesis of what Wikipedia is about. We are not impressed by sales figures, only by whether independent reliable sources have already written about you: books, newspapers, websites with reliable editorial control. It may very well be that you meet this criterion, in which case somebody might write an article about you - and I acknowledge you for recognising that it should not be you. But it should not be anybody connected with you, and certainly not anybody that you are paying. I echo RudolfRed's suggestion of going to WP:RA; and you can make the job easier for somebody who takes up the request if you can identify the newspapers etc who have written substantially about you (not just listings etc) and put them in your request. --ColinFine (talk) 19:37, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * His claim to "best-seller" status comes from having bubbled up for a few seconds on the Amazon website. He has no evidence from actual print sources. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  21:37, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Month count
Hi! Why doesn't my edit month count work? The text says: "User has not yet opted in. If you want to see graphs, please create User:Lova Falk/EditCounterOptIn.js with any content. Alternatively, you can create meta:User:Lova Falk/EditCounterGlobalOptIn.js to opt-in across all Wikimedia wikis." I created both pages but no monthly edit count appears... Lova Falk    talk   20:12, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * User:Lova Falk/EditCounterOptIn.js is currently empty. Try adding "Hello world" there - it doesn't have to be valid JavaScript, but the program does need to see something there. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:21, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes! Thank you!  Lova Falk     talk   20:24, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * ...(New tab), (Google translate) Stay warm! -- John of Reading (talk) 20:29, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Conflict of interests
Dear all, First, congratulations on the wonderful job you all are doing!!! Well, I just added an article (as a reference) on the topic: Automata Theory. When I realized that my name showed in red, I decided to create a wikipage having a short BIO of myself. Later, I read the email from Deltahedron about conflict of interests. My question is, if it is 0K if I leave the wikipage I just created? or I have to erase it? Thanks, -JS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.46.211.231 (talk) 20:39, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to the page named Samayoa, Jorge A.? It is about to be deleted anyway, so you don't need to do anything. Writing an autobiography here is strongly discouraged; see Autobiography. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:57, 28 November 2012 (UTC)