Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 November 30

= November 30 =

New user needs help
How do I add my personal information/create a new page?

Thanks.

EDDIE KEYES ^^^^^^^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by EDWARD KEYES (talk • contribs) 00:05, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello Eddie. You seem to be asking two completely different questions.  If you want to add information about yourself to your Wikipedia account so people know something about you, you can do so at your userpage, located at User:EDWARD KEYES.  Just click that red link and you will be given the option to create a new userpage.  User pages has more details about how to use your user page.  If you wish to create a new Wikipedia article, the best advice I can give is to start with the guide Your first article which covers all the bases.  Does that help answer your questions?  -- Jayron  32  00:33, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Eddie, if you are inquiring about creating an autobiographical article please be aware that it is strongly discouraged. See WP:AUTOBIO. --76.189.101.221 (talk) 03:12, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Link not working on ur page
Hi, just wanted to tell that one of the link on the reference is not working. Find below

Rhiannon Fish

Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.166.52.128 (talk) 00:07, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing that out. I found three dead links in the page, and have marked them as such. Keri (talk) 00:50, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Adding a word

 * Moved question out of another section and gave it its own heading. --ColinFine (talk) 09:52, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I am not a registed Wikipedia user, but I would like to add a new word to the Wikipedia. How do I do this? Signed, Greg Hansen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.82.158.172 (talk) 01:37, 2 December 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not clear what you mean. If you want to add something to an existing article, you can just edit it: you don't need to be registered. If you want to create a new article, have a look at WP:YFA. --ColinFine (talk) 09:52, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Creating and editing a user profile with a picture
Hi Guys,

I'm having a hell of a time knowing how to upload my photo which I'd like alongside my user profile. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Best regards Jack Dikian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Dikian (talk • contribs) 00:29, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Jack. You won't be able to upload images yet as you have not reached the threshold of edits required. Only users with the autoconfirmed status may do that. "Although the precise requirements for autoconfirmed status vary according to circumstances, most user accounts that are more than four days old and have made at least 10 edits are considered autoconfirmed." When you pass the threshold, the upload wizard will guide you gently through the procedure. Keri (talk) 00:55, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * If the photo has a free license then you can upload it at commons:Special:UploadWizard right away, and then it can be used at Wikipedia. However, User:Jack Dikian sounds like you want to use Wikipedia to promote yourself. That is not allowed. See User pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:04, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * And since you are a living person, you could use the photo only if it has a free license. —teb728 t c 06:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

What should I do?
Sorry, but I couldn't think of a more descriptive section title.

I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask this question, but here goes...

Long story short:

Before I created an account, I edited with an IP address and !voted in a talk page "straw poll". However, I also !voted in the same "poll" after I had created an account and forgot that I had already posted anonymously. I can assure you that I was not trying to do sock puppetry (I have not edited anonymously since then except to CSD some leftover user subpages I had created), and I really don't want to disclose my IP address. What should I do? Should I remove the comment while I am logged out and act like I never posted anonymously?

The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 06:16, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Since you registered your account over two months ago, I presume that the poll has closed. I suggest, then, that you do nothing more to draw attention to your IP address, and leave the post alone. If anyone ever notices and brings this up against you, you can point them to [the archive of] this help desk thread. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:00, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That sounds good and I'll try it, thanks. The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 08:33, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * And this will be the address of this topic.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:56, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

FAMOUS PEOPLE FROM TAUNTON, MASSACHUSETTS
DAVID MAGAZU IS THE OFFENSIVE LINE COACH FOR THE DENVER BRONCOS THIS YEAR HE PROTECTS PEYTON MANNING, LAST YEAR WAS TIM TEBOW. HE IS VERY WELL KNOWN FOR PUTTING COLLEGE LINEMAN IN THE NFL WHEN WITH BOSTON COLLEGE AND UP TO 12 OTHER COLLEGES. WWW.DENVERBRONCOS.COM MEDIA GUIDE  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.41.19 (talk) 07:03, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Please stop SHOUTing (... and I've undone your ref tags which stopped any subsequent text in the article from being displayed). - David Biddulph (talk) 08:03, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

how i create a new page
dear sir i want to know how i create a new page on a new topic and how rename his title and how i remove it ....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashutosh nayak1992 (talk • contribs) 12:27, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello Ashutosh nayak. New articles can be created through Articles for creation, but please read Your first article before creating one. Pages can be renamed by moving the page. You can request for a page to be moved at Requested moves. Articles can be deleted only by administrators, but anyone can nominate an article for deletion. You can refer Deletion process to know about the same. -- Anbu121 ( talk me ) 12:38, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Don't take it personally...
A few times when reverting or making changes to articles I've come across situations where the other editor in quesiton has taken a personal affront to the change - I've also noticed this occasionally between other editors on pages in my watchlist.

Generally I try to pacify and explain that while it's not a sin to feel pride in editing Wikipedia, there should be no shame or anger in having edits reverted either - and to this end I've looked for a policy or an essay which states something along the lines of "Don't take reversions or edits personally" - but I can't find anything that seems to cover this. Am I just not looking in the right place, or is this a gap in the market I should exploit and try to fill myself? Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:16, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Don't be ashamed? Keri (talk) 14:25, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * In the case of deletion, there is Guide to deletion. As far as other edits are concerned, a "Do not take it personally" link from the first para of Be bold goes to WP:AGF, but the latter doesn't use those words specifically. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:37, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Cat in limbo
User contributions

Apparently, this editor sort of created Category:Xavier High School alumni but didn't finish. I've never seen anything like this before. When I click on it, it takes me to a populated category with the message "This is only a preview; your changes have not yet been saved!" as if I am in the middle of editing it. The preview shows the populated cagtegory, and the edit area is empty. I suppose I could hit Save, although I'm not sure that would even work unless I put something in the edit area. And, in any event, I'm not the one who wants to create this category (the editor is new). This all strikes me as odd.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:02, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * This seems to be standard behaviour when an article is placed in a category that hasn't been created yet - see Database reports/Red-linked categories with incoming links for lots more examples. I've created the category page with a couple of plausible parent categories. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:29, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, this is the standard behaviour and very practical. For a current example, see for example User:KHarber with a red link to Category:Wikipedians interested in Niue. If a category page called X hasn't been created then it's often helpful to still be able to see pages containing, and a red link always goes to an edit page (if you have permission to create the page). Your suspicion that a page cannot be created blank is correct. It must contain something to be saved. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:05, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:45, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Copyright notification
Hi, I'm fairly certain this image File:"The QJY-88 GPMG, Nov 2012.jpg".jpg is not free nor taken by the user (as he claims), as it is the mirror image (literally, it's simply flipped) of this image on this page:. Who should I notify for further research/removal? It could help that big chunks of copyrighted material from the aforementioned site have been removed from the related page QJY-88 about a year ago. Thanks, --Amendola90 (talk) 16:30, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing this out, I have marked the file as a probable copyvio. Keri (talk) 16:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks likely that the exact same image was deleted from Commons in 2010, too: 04:22, 23 March 2010 Kved deleted page File:Type88gpmg2.jpg (In category Media without a license as of 7 March 2010; no license) Keri (talk) 16:55, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't work much on the wp:en project, so I don't know my way around people-wise, can I refer to you for any future questions on stuff like this or could you point out someone or some project? Thanks, --Amendola90 (talk) 17:26, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You may raise issues such as this here at the Help desk or feel free to let me know via my talk page, whichever you prefer. Keri (talk) 17:32, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks, I'll see when need arises. Cheers, --Amendola90 (talk) 17:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Can
Is it permissible for one paragraph to cover two or more topics? The background to this question comes from this edit of mine being reverted. Pass a Method  talk  19:27, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * There is no policy or guideline that says that a paragraph can not cover more then one topic. This is up to editors of a particular article to decide. Ruslik_ Zero 19:37, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Are you saying that the revert was baseless? Pass a Method   talk  19:59, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think the comment belongs in the lead at all. It's a detail for a state and Assisted suicide says there are now two other states. There should rarely be reason to mention any laws in the lead of an article about a state. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:11, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * It is rather specific and a change of direction from the rest of the article lead. If I had seen it first I would probably have removed it as a "tacked on sentence that does not belong in the lead of the article." Britmax (talk) 20:16, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Here's a link showing the revert: . StuRat (talk) 21:44, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Heather Harlow Replies:
Greetings unto one and all. All in all it is a very good job that you all did and I do agree it will be good to think that some day, I hopefully will be able to come back to see you all once and again. Until that time, (if it ever happens again), then no harm done. But until then, good bye unto all. And yes, you all can feel free to requote me again, as such being the case. Signed: Her Highly Honourable: Heather harlow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.106.172.215 (talk) 19:58, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

article above about the Budwig diet
I am concerned above about your article on the Budwig diet. It states that there is no  evidence the Budwig diet works. The author's own source states that there is no evidence YET and goes on to say, " The information available about flaxseed has mostly come from laboratory work. Scientists have tested flaxseed on a number of different types of cancer cells in the lab, including breast, prostate and bowel cancer cells. These laboratory studies suggest that substances in flaxseed may help to stop cancer cells growing and spreading. Research has also looked at flaxseed and animal cancers. Studies on breast cancer cells in mice suggest that it may help to make the hormone treatment tamoxifen and the monoclonal antibody treatment Herceptin work better. But it is too early to say how it would work in humans.". I feel it is morally wrong to leave this information out of the article as it could potentially discourage cancer patients and possibly even cost lives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.69.144 (talk) 20:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Would your remarks be connected to this article? Or another? Britmax (talk) 20:20, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * The place to discuss this is on the article's talk page. But notice that the purpose of Wikipedia is to report neutrally on reliably sourced information: it is not advocacy, no matter how worthy the cause. --ColinFine (talk) 09:58, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Do IP users get the "new message" notification when a note is left on their IP talk page?
See above. Just wondering b/c there are a couple of IP's I've seen editing recently, and I wanted to reach out to them b/c their edits are constructive, just a bit misguided. I wanted to try to foster some communication, but if they don't get the "new message" notification, then it's pointless b/c I imagine they don't even know the talk page exists. Thanks in advance. Ditch &#8733; 21:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That is a really good question, and I've been wondering that myself. I'll be interested in the response. ~Adjwilley (talk) 21:12, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Its one of the reasons i think its pointless to talk to IPss. Pass a Method  talk  21:28, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Reason being that they don't get the notification? I could see how popping a "new message" notice on every Tom, Dick, and Harry that visits an article as an IP would be clumsy, but it seems like after 10 or so years, there would be a way to qualify "actively editing" IPs from "just browsing" IPs, and let them know people are trying to talk to them.  Ditch &#8733;  21:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * They do get the notification. But I don't think you can assume that means they will read the message. Formerip (talk) 21:52, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * IP's do get the new messages banner if they are still on the same IP address. This help desk sometimes gets posts from IP's who got the banner for a message left several years ago. See for example Help desk/Archives/2012 February 19. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, great, then I'll try reaching out to them! One thing I'd say, just for the sake of saying it, is that when I, as a registered use, click on the "new message" notification, I often have to scroll down through the page to find it.  It would be helpful if the "new" message was hi-lighted, or even if the link somehow redirected to the bottom of the talk page, since WP's bottom-up approach to communicating is a bit counter-intuitive when compared to other message boards. Anyway, thanks!  Ditch &#8733;  22:04, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Here's a tip: put at the top of your Talk page.  And I can confirm that IPs do get 'New Message' banners. ~Eric the IP:74.60.29.141 (talk) 23:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Or press if your keyboard has it. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:13, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

create page
My family of 6 children have recently lost our father who was some kind of hero to us all. He was such an example for his love and everlasting generosity when we all needed him the most. Jim Enbody retired after 40 yrs with the federal government as a chief warrant officer 4. I would like to leave a biography about his life of 79 yrs as a contribute to him. I would like it possible when his name is entered in google search, something great is seen by his family and friends. My dad was my hero who continues to give long after his death. I owe it to him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wirewheely (talk • contribs) 21:20, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Please accept my sincere condolences on the loss of your family member. I would suggest that, though it may seem frustrating during you time of mourning, Wikipedia is not the best place to commemorate your father.  Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit.  You would have no control over the content once an article was created.  You'd also face frustration in the notability process, which, understandably, may cause more negative than positive emotions when complete strangers start discussing your father's contributions during his life time.  I'd suggest maybe creating an open/public Flickr account, or registering a blog like Wordpress or Typepad, with information about your father.  Those type of sites rank pretty high in Google searches, and you would have complete control over the content, rather than putting it in the hand of strangers who may not appreciate how much your father's memory means to you and your siblings.  I hope this advice helps!  Ditch &#8733;  21:35, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That is really excellent advice, and I can only agree. A Wikipedia article about your father could be a source of heartache and stress for you and your siblings, even if you could manage to run the gauntlet of the creation process and the notability criteria, which is by no means certain.  Wikipedia is not the place for memorials.  Choose somewhere where you can control the content without outside interference, and write your dad's story in your own words and pictures, for the people who knew and loved him. -  Ka renjc 22:42, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Ditch, that is the best response and advice I've ever seen on the help desk. Beautifully written. And nice follow-up, Karenjc. --76.189.101.221 (talk) 23:59, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Georgetown District High School (GDHS)
Andrea Garner is no longer vice-principal at GDHS - as of September 2012, Jim MacKenzie is now Vice-Principal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.204.235.152 (talk) 23:14, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I have confirmed it on the website and updated the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)