Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 November 9

= November 9 =

Adding a new page
Hello,

We are trying to add a page about Alvin Taylor (Drummer). He is spoken of in several different musicians pages as he is a world renounced drummer. These places will need to be hyper linked to go to his new page we are trying to create. How do we get a new page up for him and get it linked to the other paged he is mentioned in?

If you do a search here in Wikipedia, you will see him mentioned many times.

Here are a few pages he is spoken of it:

The Best of Sammy Hagar (1992 album)

(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay

Please help!

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdoniYah (talk • contribs) 03:28, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * It appears you have been trying to create the article, but it keeps getting deleted for non-notability/lack of reliable sources. Instead of creating the article right away by yourself, I highly recommend you send the article through Articles for Creation to be reviewed.
 * To create a link to another page on WIkipedia (wikilink), simply put two pairs of brackets around the title of the page. For example, this code:  produces this: Wikipedia.
 * Hope that helps, and welcome to Wikipedia! Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 06:07, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Vandal on The Sims 3 Page proposal of block
207.233.90.1 has did not cite and did not reference the ninth expansion pack of expansion pack for The Sims 3 and I propose a one to three day block from creating account, editing, and send email (this is optional) and I will like to remind others to cite and reference all forthcoming items, especially the games, television shows, sporting events, and Religious\Political events. This does to count for books, magazines, and periodicals. And don't get me started on music and film.... (hint to the recent US Political ad....) Thanks Sundogs Wikia UserPage 04:09, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Information on warning users can be found here. The place to request page protection is here.  And the place to request an IP be blocked is here.  I don't see a question in your paragraph, so I don't really know what you're asking.  Maybe someone else will be able to ferret it out.  Dismas |(talk) 04:39, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Adding a Map to an Infobox
I have been working on adding a location map to a series of Auckland, NZ suburbs (specifically Mount Eden and Kingsland) and I am having trouble getting them to load correctly. (I uploaded the maps myself File:Kingsland-NZ.png and File:NZ-Mt Eden.png.) What typically loads on the page when I exclude the brackets is 300X instead of the image. When I include the brackets it uploads the image, as well as, [[File: above the image and 300x below the image. I have successfully uploaded the map into the infobox of [[Eden Valley, New Zealand|Eden Valley]]'s page in the past and I am not sure if it is my error or if there is a bug. Can you give me some insight?  Researchassistant101 (talk) 04:32, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I just added the maps to both of the articles with no issues. Did you possibly forget to exclude both the brackets and the File: prefix (e.g. map = Kingsland-NZ.png)? Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 06:20, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I left on the File: prefix. Thank you for your help. Researchassistant101 (talk) 01:02, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Benefits of effective management system
I need a brief explanation on the statement: "prioritize events for a decisive intelligent action". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.190.2.99 (talk) 04:19, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You should ask this at Reference desk/Miscellaneous because this page is only for questions about using Wikipedia. Scarce2 (talk) 06:37, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Hindi-language Wikipedia
When I see the language bar of Wikipedia page on any subject, I find that in the list of languages for translations, HINDI largely and mostly spoken in India as India's National language is found missing; although some of the Indian languages like Tamil, Gujarati Sanskrit etc. find their names included. Any reasons or explanations for the omission ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.127.64 (talk) 04:22, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * A link is only there if there exists an article in the Hindi Wikipedia on a topic. As of 2011, that Wikipedia had over 100,000 articles, compared to the over 4 million in this version. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  04:34, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Note that volunteer editors at each Wikipedia language must write their own articles. You can also become an editor and create and edit articles at the Hindi Wikipedia. There is no system for automatic translation. Articles in different languages are edited independently. Often they are not translations but merely about the same topic. meta:List of Wikipedias shows the number of articles in different languages. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:42, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Printing a page with the sidebar
Hi, I'm writing a paper about Wikipedia and need to be able to include a copy of an article (in this case Heart of Darkness) in my appendix, complete with the left-side sidebar. However, whenever I attempt to 'Print to PDF' the sidebar is hidden. Is there any way I can print it alongside the article, or at least print it on its own?

Any help would be very much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.242.208 (talk) 05:32, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not sure if this can be addressed by browser print settings. But, here is a quicker way: Online url to pdf converters -- Anbu121 ( talk me ) 08:05, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Co-aligned images in pdf format of articles
When I'm working on articles with a lot of images, I like to test various views, such as the pdf version, to see how everything's lining up when it isn't confined to my screen preferences. I noticed just now that a co-aligned image loses its formatting, as well as footer caption info. Since I use this alignment specifically to compare two closely related images that might share footer info, this can represent a significant loss of info for the reader. For an example, see the co-aligned image at the top of Figurative art, then look at the mess when you go through the process to produce a pdf.

I have no technical expertise whatever in these areas, so I can only point out the problem. But co-aligning is part of the basic WP:Image tutorial, where there's no warning this will happen, so it seems as if we ought to make it more functional. Thanks to anyone with the know-how to look at this. Cynwolfe (talk) 14:47, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * The caption text at Figurative art is included in the PDF version for me, but misformatting makes it look like article text and not captions. A 2010 post at Template talk:Multiple image/Archive 1 only got the reply: "These are known limitations of the PDF renderer." PrimeHunter (talk) 15:14, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Right, yes, the caption text will be reproduced, but not formatted as such. That example doesn't have footer text. At Roman Empire, there's a pair of co-aligned images without individual caption text: they have a shared caption that's entered as footer text. I'm not getting that text. When I say the images aren't 'formatted,' what I really mean of course is that you lose the co-aligned layout—which was the purpose of a side-by-side comparison in the first place. "Known" limitations are surely not "unavoidable and necessary" limitations, since other sites don't seem to convert pages to pdfs with that much loss. Thanks for the link and answer, though. Cynwolfe (talk) 17:04, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Correction on Intelsat 23
Satellite Intelsat 23 is one of a series of Intelsat communications satellites which are in geosynchronous orbit so that they are always located over the same part of the earth. It will be located over the equator at 307° east and is intended to replace Intelsat 707, which was launched in 1996.[2] The satellite was built by Orbital Sciences using their GEOstar-2 bus. It has 24 C band circular polarized transponders covering the Americas and Western Europe, and 15 linear polarized Ku band transponders covering Latin America.[4] The satellite has 32 C band transponders and 19 Ku band transponders in total to provide for redundancy. Both antennae are 2.5m x 2.7m.[5]

NOTE: use of the term Antennae is incorrect. Bugs have Antennae, Communications systems have Antennas, i.e., the plural of Antenna is Antennas when referring to reception or tranmission of RF energy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.231.249.138 (talk) 15:16, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * If you have reliable sources for the information you wish to change, you are welcome to edit the article; or if you are not confident doing that, your best course is to put your suggestion on the article's talk page.
 * As for antennae/antennas - Google ngrams agrees that antennas has become more common than antennae in this context, but incorrect is meaningless in this context unless you specify the standard by which it is incorrect. I suspect this change would be contentious, so I would certainly suggest discussing it on the article's talk page - but not by claiming "this is incorrect". --ColinFine (talk) 15:56, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

i NEED HELP FOR INSERTING A TRANSLATED ARTICLE
Sorry, I have asked for help before in another place, but Wikipedia is almost infinite and I cannot find it. I have translated over a dozen articles before, English into Spanish, and when I was goint to create the Spanish version I wrote the title in the Search Button, top rioght, and a message appeared "This article does not exist. Do you want to create it? I clicked OK and then I could start. But this does not happen any more. Can anyone help me? I also know there are instructions about how to translate an article, but cannot find them. Thanks for your patience and time, Wikipedia is too big. The article I am trying to insert is the Spanish version of "Fasting Girls".--PremieLover (talk) 15:28, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Are you searching at the Spanish Wikipedia http://es.wikipedia.org while being logged in there? If you are logged in and the searched title doesn't exist then you should get a message with a red link you can click to create the page. Which Spanish title for "Fasting Girls" are you searching and what happens? Translation and es:Wikipedia:Taller idiomático have information about translation. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:51, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Mount Mansfield Union High School State Championships
Hi, I was just looking at your discussion of Mount Mansfield Union High School athletics State Championships - and wanted to let you know that you are missing a great number of them.

I do not know what your process of correction would be - but it would be great if they could be updated!

Jeff Currier

Class of '75 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.106.48.10 (talk) 15:44, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia content is created by volunteers, who generally work on topics that interest them. If you would like to see an article expanded, you are welcome to work on it yourself - but be aware that all information included should be referenced to reliable sources: personal knowledge or recollection is not enough.
 * Alternatively, you could ask on the article's talk page, or on a suitable WikiProject talk page, for somebody willing to add this information to the article. --ColinFine (talk) 16:00, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * You could ask for some help at Wikiproject Vermont. If you don't have any success there, post on my talk page and I'll help you update the article. Dismas |(talk) 16:42, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Stiff Person Syndrome
I have taken notice there have been some drastic changes in Wikipedia web site regarding the above subject of Stiff Person Syndrome (SPS) over the past years, which is a good sign for a person with SPS and who is always doing research trying to find as much information as possible since Drug Corporations will not touch this auto-immune disease because of the extremely low percentage of people who have this disease due to the cost effect of performing research. A couple months ago the article had a lot of information that was absolutely incorrect. As I saw the site today and saw that it was changed, which I thank the individuals responsible for correcting the web site. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiff_person_syndrome

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdsnook (talk • contribs) 17:29, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello, and welcome. The Help Desk is a place for asking questions on using or editing Wikipedia. Do you have an actual question on editing?-- xanchester  (t)  18:27, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I have collapsed your comments - I am sure they were made in good faith but there is nothing in them that requires a response from Helpdesk volunteers, and they could be construed as medical advice, which must not appear on this page. If you want to discuss the article Stiff person syndrome or suggest improvements to it, the place to do so is the article's talk page.  Any new material should be sourced to reliable sources; anecdotes, personal opinions and original research cannot be included. -  Ka renjc 19:21, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

The River Thames
Think it did right..

I discovered an external reference/link using a bogus outward link (if I describe it correctly)

Basically it was linked to a site in a foreign language with lots of links pages (links farming ??)

Should I have advised the removal of the offending web-link whilst retaining the Name in case iot could still be rectified or bona fide ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1stcanalman (talk • contribs) 18:19, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * You were right to remove it, thanks. I've put a welcome box on your user talk page which I hope you will find helpful DuncanHill (talk) 18:24, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * External link spamming is a problem on Wikipedia. Thank you for spotting it and removing the link.-- xanchester  (t)  19:24, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

RESCUELIST
After making various addititions and improvements noted on an article that is marked for potential deletion, how can I note/flag to rescue ??? RESCUELIST — Preceding unsigned comment added by LONGEDDY (talk • contribs) 19:54, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * If you are referring to Monsters HD, you have to let the Afd at Articles for deletion/Monsters HD take its course. I see that you have already commented there so there isn't really much more you can do. You won't improve your case by answering every other's comments by repeating your own ad nauseam.--ukexpat (talk) 20:04, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * So - do I improve my case by improving the article and citing examples that were questioned by the Articles For Deletion initiator? I am not sure what you mean when the article made suggestions to save by "improving" thanksLONGEDDY (talk) 20:15, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Exactly, improve the article by dealing with the issues raised in the Afd discussion, then at the Afd indicate that you think you have dealt with them and ask the users there to reconsider.--ukexpat (talk) 20:35, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Also - While making every effort to add and improve the article with "notable" published sources with citations,  the Articles for Deletion initiator continues to "question the reliability" and my efforts/edits. In turn, I was flagged as being in an edit war. I guess my question is how does one convince an Articles for Deletion initiator to recognize the improvements and to look at the references added and to stop "questioning the reliability of the sources?" It seems like a conflict of interest if the initiator is eliminating content and on a mission to delete the content. I also found that I was being questioned after adding titles to an already existing list of titles referenced on the MONSTERS HD article, which were summarily removed. How does one cite titles of films that have aired on the network and can it be restored? Numerous TV shows and programming (tv shows) are listed on varous channels. I did my best to collect from various Guides and metadata. LONGEDDY (talk) 20:49, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You should keep in mind that the reviewer of the article is unlikely to have a particular interest in horror films. They will probably find the opening sentence "Monsters HD was the 'first, and only uncut and commercial-free, all-monster-movie channel in high definition.'" too dense in technical terms. It would be better to write for people with less knowledge of the field. Something like "Monsters HD was a satellite television channel, broadcasting to the US". Maproom (talk) 10:47, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Conde Nast Traveler - Editor Needed for Page Accuracy
Hello - we are looking for an editor to fact check and update the Conde Nast Traveler web page. See notes on the Talk section below - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Condé_Nast_Traveler&oldid=522228243 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iammrpuss21 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you not only for refraining from editing the article directly and for declaring your interest, but for providing corrections and sources to support them. This is an excellent example of the right way for companies to go about getting their Wikipedia articles updated.  I am sure somebody will check the sources and update the article (if not I'll do it myself, but I won't be here much for a day or so). -  Ka renjc 20:47, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for declaring your interest. I've made the requested corrections. I hope that helps, and if you have any more concerns, feel free to tell us.-- xanchester  (t)  05:42, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Suddenly I can't search
On any Wikipedia page, in the "Search" box at upper right, normally the word "Search" appears, and immediately goes away when I start typing in something to search for. Now, it stays blank ("Search" never appears). I type in my text, but no list of prospective matches appears. I click on the magnifying glass, and nothing happens. It's as if there's no code behind the magnifying glass -- it doesn't seem to be sending a page request off to the server. The browser doesn't show any sign that it's waiting for a new page to load. Do I have a bad setting in my browser (IE 8), or a virus? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.117.222.234 (talk) 21:52, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

You are not alone - all my Java related gadgets have stopped working including the search options. My Java settings and Wiki preferences are unchanged but Wiki keeps telling me I need a Java Script enable browser which I have. Java is fine on everything else on my PC - has Wiki been altering its browings or editing options? I'll have to leave this unsigned as in Edit wiki is no longer giving me the icon to add my username and date!!
 * See discussion below. - 74.60.29.141 (talk) 18:23, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

From the originator of this item: Now it's working again, and I didn't change any browser settings!

Problems with sortable table displays - rowspan is not correct
Several articles I have checked are no longer displaying properly. For about a week, any sortable tables with a rowspan of 2, 3, 4 or more are being shown as duplicate rows with duplicate information. In the past, a rowspan of two or more would show up as a double or triple wide row followed by a single wide row as edited. It does not matter which browser or which computer I use, the display is not as it use to be. When I make the table standard and no longer sortable, the rowspans of different sizes are displayed as before. Examples of articles that no longer display as before: If I remove the sortable designation, it displays as before with a proper rowspan. If the sortable designation is added, it no longer displays as it should, even if I try reloading page. Has the wording for sortable tables been changed? Sorting adds a great deal to some tables, but the displays now can be confusing to a new reader. This has been going on for about a week. I did not do any editing changes to make all tables display wrong. This occurs if I use any browser, or a different internet feed, or different computer. Thanks Spparky (talk) 22:14, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Most wins by a starting quarterback (NFL)
 * Most wins by active starting quarterbacks (NFL)
 * List of Pro Football Hall of Fame inductees
 * List of NFL franchise post-season streaks
 * Sounds like it could be related to this — Frankie (talk) 22:35, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I used &lt;div>s to work around this in the Conscription article and in a couple of others. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 03:21, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

How to stop unwarranted reporting of vandalism
Someone is deleting my content and reporting it as vandalism. It is a view that represents fairly another side to what they have published. Pleased help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldenchalicejustice (talk • contribs) 22:40, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You're proposing to introduce an extreme and defamatory statement about a living person with no sourcing whatsoever, and you wonder why your edits are being reverted? Have a read of the policy on biographies of living people before trying that again. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  22:43, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Labeling a living person as a "psychopath" or "deranged" is not, in any way, neutral or impartial. Wikipedia is not a soapbox for personal opinions, especially opinions that are defamatory and without sources.-- xanchester  (t)  03:55, 10 November 2012 (UTC)