Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 October 17

= October 17 =

Advertising on user pages
removed the text of the Holly Madison article to put herself there. That's been reverted. But her user page reads like promotional copy. Is there a way to get that speedied? Not sure what the best course of action is here. Any help would be appreciated. Dismas |(talk) 00:00, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * In principle a promotional user page could be tagged db-g11, but I don't think this user page is promotional enough to be deleted. —teb728 t c 05:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

A new contributor who has not received a welcome message.
If we notice that a new contributor has made a positive contribution to an article, and has not yet received a welcome message on his talk page, should we notify an administrator? If so, is there any administrator in particular whom we should notify?JDefauw (talk) 01:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)JDefauw


 * No, you can welcome the user yourself if you would like! I use Twinkle to welcome new users frequently, and it's pretty easy. –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I just type {{subst:welcome cookies}} ~ - Purplewowies (talk) 02:15, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I had never heard of twinkle before.  It was very easy to use once I learned how to install it.  I'm glad the automatic warning prevented me from welcoming myself.Dulcimer music (talk) 03:50, 17 October 2012 (UTC)JDefauw


 * You're welcome and have fun using Twinkle! –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 04:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the Honda B series engine Article
Please do not delete the B 16 a 2 Rare type x Engine article from Honda B series Section. I was reading about it and it was gone. It is a rare engine and it's a very valuable information to have on wikipedia.

Sincerely, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CF2D:F230:13E:3B8D:7829:7E11 (talk) 01:11, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you think somebody is about to delete this information? It's there, at Honda B engine. However, as it stands, the article is entirely unreferenced, and so could be deleted at any time. If you care about the article, please improve it by adding references for the information in it. --ColinFine (talk) 17:13, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

John Rockefeller IV
Hello Wikipedia staff,

I would like to know the birth years of John David Rockefeller IV please. Mostly I would like to know the birth year of J. D. Rockefeller V please. I enjoy this web site over all very much. Rarely do I not find the information I am looking for on your web site. Some times I have to look around a lot to find what it s I wish to know. I like to learn about the past, presnt and feature.

Thank you very much for your time.

Josh La Mere frequent reader — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.129.228 (talk) 02:53, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I added a header to your question. Please see the article Jay Rockefeller, it will answer your question.  RudolfRed (talk) 03:08, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

edit question
How can I imput relevant details on your web — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.94.141.215 (talk) 03:00, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I added a header to your question. Please see the tutorial, it should help you get started.  RudolfRed (talk) 03:08, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

2011–2012 Egyptian revolution references
I noticed that the 2011–2012 Egyptian revolution article doesn't show any references? How can they be shown? --P3Y229 05:48, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Something really weird is going on with that page – none of the templates at the bottom of the page are working! –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 05:56, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I just posted a topic about this to the Village pump. –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 06:06, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:Clear following TOC rather than before it
I made some changes to Mr. Basketball USA yesterday. I want to partly revert. What I did was remove the because it was pushing the TOC down. Then I had to move the Winners section image gallery to the left. Can we make the clear command ignore the TOC so it does not shift it down. If so, then I can move the gallery back to the right.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:40, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can use the __ TOC__ magic word to place the TOC and then follow that with a clear. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:07, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Misleading but referenced information
Recent edits on Americana are referenced but none the less are highly misleading, contradicting main definitions elsewhere, as well as unbalancing an article that tends to attract unbalanced contributions. I've posted a comment on the talk page but with some 600 hits a day, I feel some kind of tag on the article itself is appropriate., I can't find a page with a list of tags and Refimprove isn't right since there are refs. Please advise what tags might be used. ProfDEH (talk) 07:49, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * If you feel undue weight is being given to certain items or issues in the article, then Template:Undue may be what you are looking for. Gandalf61 (talk) 08:00, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Not so free
I have a problem to report. Wikipedia is too crambed with rules. EITHER ITS FREE OR ITS NOT!

My edits were neither vandalism or clutter and I'd appreciate if Wikipedia steered toward a fun, interactive site again.

//Ex-donor (new account, not new user) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfadog17 (talk • contribs)


 * It is free in that it is possible for editors to delete sections of content without explanation, as you did at Heathers. It is also free in that it allows other editors to restore that content. Maproom (talk) 08:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * And in fact your edits have been consistently unhelpful, often ill-spelled and pointless. This is a reference work, not an interactive game. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  13:07, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * No wonder it's taking me so long to level-up. —Tamfang (talk) 19:04, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

George ballantyne
Dear sir ,I would just like to inform you George Ballantyne signed for Wakefield in 1968 you have down 1970,and was transferred to Castleford fro £11,000 in 1978 a record for Castleford then .He also played for Yorkshire twice and was capped. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.50.115 (talk) 09:01, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Who's George Ballantyne then? —Tamfang (talk) 09:07, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * We have millions of articles. Please give the exact title or URL of pages. After a search I guess the post is about List of Wakefield Trinity Wildcats players which says "circa-1970…78". Do you have a published reliable source for 1968? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:45, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Article Locked-in syndrome
Good Morning,

I had edited a submission entry about the story of my sister Catherine O'Leary who suffers from Locked in Syndrome which was online at Locked-in syndrome. I didn't write the original story however there were some errors on this which I needed to correct, as there was wrong information being displayed and for legal reasons had to be changed.

Upon doing this a few days ago, the entire paragraph was removed, which I find completely unfair. and im not sure how to proceed.

Many thanks,

Patrick — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.217.208 (talk) 09:07, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The trouble is that we have no way of knowing that Catherine O'Leary even exists, without reference to some reliable source such as a newspaper; that's why the passage was removed as "unsourced". We also prefer that you not write on matters to which you're intimately connected. —Tamfang (talk) 09:20, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Thats fine; but there is a wealth of newspaper articles available online by doing a quick google search, can list a few: http://www.sundaymercury.net/news/midlands-news/2012/09/02/birmingham-mum-of-locked-in-girl-catherine-o-leary-says-her-daughter-wants-to-live-66331-31745618/

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Irish-father-of-locked-in-women-agrees-with-assisted-suicide-99090114.html

http://thecorknews.ie/articles/ballincollig-family-praise-‘locked-patients-research-2935

It would be great if this could be relisted, as I think it is great to have the information available — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.217.208 (talk) 09:28, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Best bet is to mention those sources in the talk page of the article. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:06, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Help with infobox
Hello,

in Russian Empire, in the infobox after "February Revolution", why are there two times the year "1917"? I could not find the error... Regards.--Tomcat (7) 09:14, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The error was that years had been included in the parameters for date_start and date_end, but Template:Infobox former country says they're not needed. They get picked up from year_start and year_end.  I've fixed it. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:21, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguating two books with identical title
There exist the page Fermat's Last Theorem (book), with a redirect from Fermat's enigma. This article is about a Simon Singh book, but someone has pointed out there exists another book of identical title. Obviously the title has been disambiguated from the actual theory fairly successfully, but I'm not clear on the usual format for Disambiguating two books with the same title. ProtectheHuman (I'm not logged in, but I'm that guy) 217.41.84.185 (talk) 09:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * See Naming conventions (books). Scarce2 (talk) 09:59, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Right, so Fermat's Last Theorem (Singh book), makes sense. Thanks. 217.41.84.185 (talk) 10:06, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

2011–2012 Egyptian revolution - Post revolution timeline article title
Hello. Due to the overall length of the 2011–2012 Egyptian revolution article I wanna create an timeline article which hosts the timeline events under the presidency of Mohamed Morsi as described here 2011–2012_Egyptian_revolution. My problem is the title for this article. Is "2011–2012 Egyptian revolution - Post revolution timeline under Mohamed Morsi" appropriate or is "Post revolution timeline of the 2011–2012 Egyptian revolution" better? In general: What is an appropriate title? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by P3Y229 (talk • contribs) 11:22, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

gandhi memorial kanyakumari
i would like someone to put some information — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.202.127.202 (talk) 13:42, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no such article in Wikipedia. If you are talking about adding information to the article Kanyakumari, the article's talk page would be the best place to request this. -- Anbu121 ( talk me ) 16:42, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

XfD gadget/tool
Hi. Is there a gadget or monobook tool that makes it easy to list at XfD... that works for IE 8? And please no suggestions I upgrade my broswer. If I had any choice in the matter, I wouldn't be using IE on this computer. --Dweller (talk) 13:48, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:tw? Mdann52 (talk) 14:17, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * See my last two edits. No sign of an XfD tool despite multiple cache refreshes. --Dweller (talk) 14:34, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Alas, Twinkle says "Twinkle does not work on Internet Explorer versions 8 or earlier". -- John of Reading (talk) 15:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Bah. Thanks. --Dweller (talk) 15:59, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, so is there a gadget or tool that works for IE8? --Dweller (talk) 15:59, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Please, help
I want to use a picture which is credited to a Twitter account. Under what license does it lie? Thank you. Iowafromiowa (talk) 14:20, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Twitter accounts don't take pictures; people take pictures. Who took the picture? Has she or he released it, and if so, under what license? -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:03, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Creating a page for something with a similar name - disambiguation, redirects and verbose page names
Hi,

I want to create a new page for a regional tourist attraction that is currently being constructed in Brockville, Ontario, Canada. They are naming the facility The Aquatarium.

There is a current page called The Aquatarium that refers to a now-defunct aquarium facility in St. Pete Beach Florida. There is also a redirect page called Aquatarium that redirects here.

Seeking advice on how to proceed. Obvious first step is to create a verbose name for my new page (i.e. "The Aquatarium (Brockville, Ontario, Canada)" or "The Aquatarium (The 1000 Islands)")

What would the protocol be for changing the name of the existing page name for the Florida facility? Is it a first-come-first-served sort of idea.. like domain names? Obviously we can add a hatnote to the Florida Aquatarium page to link to the new article, but who decides in a case like this which is the primary topic?

I doubt that there will be a third instance of Aquatarium added to Wikipedia anytime in the foreseeable future, so I don't think that a disambiguation page is called for. --Smg669 (talk) 15:31, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Unless one of the two facilities can reasonably claim far greater notability, it'll need to be a disambig page that shows visitors the two options. See WP:DISAMBIG, especially WP:PRIME. Yes, start by creating your new article with a disambiguated name. Make sure you can demonstrate it's notable! --Dweller (talk) 15:48, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * However: unless the new attraction is already notable, there is no reason for an article here. See WP:TOOSOON and WP:UPANDCOMING. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:05, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Tom Hatton avoiding redirect
Hello there, I am looking to keep people informed about the development of Tom Hatton (actor and New Media producer) and it is important for the page not to be redirected. When searching for 'Tom Hatton', the search is redirected to 'Thomas Hatton'. How can I ensure that when Tom Hatton is typed into Wikipedia, or google, 'Tom Hatton' is not redirected? Regards Will — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hattock79 (talk • contribs) 16:10, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * We have no control over Google. As for Wikipedia, we have two articles entitled 'Tom Hatton', as well as one for Sir Thomas Hatton - which makes the disambiguation page (Thomas Hatton) necessary. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:22, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Andy Thanks for your reply to my question. I realize that you have no control over google. The issue is that because the page is redirecting to 'Thomas Hatton', google is not picking up the Tom Hatton that people are looking for. Can we separate the Tom Hatton's from the Thomas Hatton's so that when the page redirects, it redirects to the Tom Hatton's? Thanks for your time with this? Will Hattock79 (talk) 16:50, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * There are two 'Tom Hatton' articles on Wikipedia - the link to a disambiguation page is necessary. Frankly though, looking at the Tom Hatton (actor) article, I'm unconvinced that he meets the Notability (people) guidelines (specifically WP:NACTOR), and as such the article is liable to be deleted anyway. Incidentally, I see that you created the article, and you give the impression that you are somehow representing Hatton - are you familiar with the Conflict of interest policy? AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:57, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Andy, Thanks for you prompt reply. To clarify I am working with Tom Hatton on this and as he created the page a couple of years ago, hence for communication I am logged in to his page. In any case, I am keen for the page to meet the general notability criteria and will refer to the guidelines. I understand that the need for disambiguation is necessary, just to be clear, can the two Tom Hatton's be linked to disambiguation of Tom Hatton, not Thomas Hatton? Thank you for your assistance, Will — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hattock79 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * You must not edit Wikipedia using another persons account - this is strictly forbidden, see Username policy. I suggest you create your own account. AS for the question regarding the redirect, I think that it would be inadvisable, at least until the question of actor Tom Hatton's notability is addressed - I suggest this is discussed on the article talk page though. I will post there after looking into the matter further. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Great, thanks for clarifying this Andy. I'll make sure communication is continued in the way you advise (and also pass this info on to Tom Hatton). Will — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.210.149 (talk) 17:45, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Are you saying you want Tom Hatton disambiguation separated from the Thomas Hatton disambiguation? Do you think the readers you're hoping to catch will see the long list of (two) Thomas entries and give up before getting to the Tom entries? —Tamfang (talk) 19:13, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * You say "I am looking to keep people informed about the development of Tom Hatton". That seems to me to mean that you are here for the purpose of promoting somebody. If so, you should be aware that it is expressly forbidden in Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 17:23, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

It was apparently Hatton himself at first, and was passed on to this "Will" person for use in promoting Hatton. This account been blocked indefinitely from editing for the reason that this account has been compromised, and by their own admission has been used by at least one other person. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:31, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

What to do
Hello: I have been using WordPerfect for over 20 years. First published Penna. Magazine 1992. Wrote self-published novel 2004-5. Used WP 5.2 for novel and other. Can't find any versions in my home office that I previously used. My eyesight has gotton bad. Only have one eye. Did purchase WordPerfect 11 about a year ago. All my previous files now come up in unreadable manner. What is my best bet for bringing up all word processing in my files? What version should I purchase for home use? My Dell came with Windows 7. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.147.106 (talk) 17:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. This is the Help Desk, for help with using and finding your way around Wikipedia.  You will probably get more help with this question from the good people at the Computing section of our Reference Desk, who specialise in IT queries.  Click on the blue link to visit it, and post your question there in just the same way as you did here. -  Ka renjc 17:55, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Wrong Pictures with the description
'''PLEASE FIX THE FOLLOWING PAGE's WRONG PICTURE AND DESCRIPTION. PAGE URL : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artcell There is a picture and description given for The Dhaka Sheraton Hotel, Bangladesh. But it is a picture of Kungsholmen in Sweden. Please fix this as you're giving us wrong information. ''' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.56.255.119 (talk) 18:32, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I found a picture of the Dhaka Sheraton on Wikimedia Commons. Does the article look right, now? -- John of Reading (talk) 18:46, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I found a picture of the Dhaka Sheraton on Wikimedia Commons. Does the article look right, now? -- John of Reading (talk) 18:46, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Help Needed to LOCK a company page
Someone continues to add false information to The Country Network wiki page. Legal has been notified. Please advise on how to lock the page or block a user adding slander. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DMM393 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:No legal threats. To answer your question: It looks like a simple content dispute - work it out on the article's talk page. We don't lock articles or block editors for disagreeing about the content of an article. However please read WP:3RR. Roger (talk) 19:28, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * See WP:RPP to request protection on a page, if it is undergoing constant vandalism (I didn't check the history). Also, read WP:LEGAL.  RudolfRed (talk) 19:30, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * User blocked for the legal threat. Any admin can feel free to unblock if retracted.  Jauerbackdude?/dude. 19:39, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * User blocked for the legal threat. Any admin can feel free to unblock if retracted.  Jauerbackdude?/dude. 19:39, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:DOLT. I'm not sure the OP is completely in the wrong here.  Some follow up needs to be done to see what is going on.  I would say, after looking over the editing, it looks like (absent the legal threat issue) that the OP may have a valid complaint.  Wikipedia is not better off if we ignore the substance of the complaint for the mere presence of a legal threat.  -- Jayron  32  19:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reminding me of that, but the deciding factor on why I blocked was the wording of the threat "legal has been notified", which in my opinion, implied that action had already been taken, rather than a threat of it. If it had read "will/may notify legal", the result may have been different.  Like I said, if you disagree, feel free to unblock.  No offense taken. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 20:07, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * No, the block is good. But in cases like this, I was just reminding everyone that the block is not the end of one's job.  People below have done the right thing: investigated the core claims, and are looking to make the article better.  That is always our first concern.  -- Jayron  32  23:05, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If you do retract the legal threat and continue to edit, please read Reliable sources. Neither of you is posting any sources to support your preferred version of the page and I see no unequivocally damaging edits, aka vandalism.  Page protection will not be invoked to preserve one user's unsourced content over another's. -  Ka renjc 19:42, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Kww has now added a reference (to The Country Network's own web site!) showing that it is based in Florida, not in Tennessee as DMM393 has been claiming. I wonder what's behind this dispute. There's nothing at the article's talk page. Maproom (talk) 20:38, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Nothing too mysterious: a lot of companies keep small offices in publicly recognizable places for PR purposes. TCN indeed has a Nashville office, but is headquartered in Deerfield, Florida. It doesn't make good ad copy to proclaim "Live from Deerfield, Florida!" when you are promoting country music, though.&mdash;Kww(talk) 17:46, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggest the OP follow the guidance at WP:DR for resolving disputes. RudolfRed (talk) 21:53, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

detailing the articles
hello please in all of the scientifically articles use from latest and best resource and change wickipedia from a general pages to scientifically pages and help from specialists in all of courses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.34.78.249 (talk) 19:57, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia, the encyclopaedia anyone can edit, with articles on millions of subjects, scientific and otherwise. If you want to get involved improving any of our articles, alongside the many other volunteers who do so every day, Tutorial is a good place to start. -  Ka renjc 20:15, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism
THE ENTRY http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPO_Model

IS HACKED — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.24.53.16 (talk) 19:57, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

- Ka renjc 20:08, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

What article would spending per death statistics be appropriate for?
I really like this graph and it has reliable sources linked from the blog post it comes from (which has a stodgier version which would look better in an article and isn't likely to be subject to copyright) but what I can't figure out is: what article would this information fit into? United States federal budget? Is there something better than that which deals more specifically with the proportion of spending to threats? Paum89 (talk) 20:28, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The blog post makes it clear that the data are for the US. So if it belongs anywhere, it must be in a US-specific article. Maproom (talk) 20:45, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. Is there any article better for this than United States federal budget? Paum89 (talk) 20:47, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Upskirt report
going commando - naked image — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.9.191.209 (talk) 20:46, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTCENSORED Rojomoke (talk) 21:31, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Irish Guards Cap Badge (Cap Star )
The Cap Star is incorrect the Date on the cap Star should be MDCCLXXXIII (1783) And not as stated on the Cap Star MDCCLXXIII As this one is missing an X — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.172.54.150 (talk) 20:56, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * To clarify: The OP seems to be referring to File:Irish Guards.png, and he appears to be correct. The image was uploaded by a now-banned user, so perhaps someone could find a better image and upload it over the one that's currently there. (The one on this page would work if it could be isolated from the surrounding stuff. I'd do it myself if I knew how.) Deor (talk) 21:38, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I could separate that one from the surrounding stuff, but I know nothing about its copyright status. Maproom (talk) 22:48, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't the presumed-copyright and fair-use templates already on the page cover this image as well? I've seen folks correct a fair-use book-cover image, claimed to be a first edition but actually not, by replacing it with an image of the actual first edition; and they did so without changing any of the licensing info on the page. Deor (talk) 23:32, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Small flag of south korea is removed in all wikipedia.
Hi. i see that all small south korean flags are gone in wikipedia. the code for flag is fb|KOR. i believe it is a template and someone removed south korean flag. i don't know how to fix it.

if you check any sports event that represent anything about south korea, only blank shows up.

London olympics medal chart http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Summer_Olympics_medal_table

Asia Worldcup qualification for 2014 worldcup. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_AFC_Fourth_Round
 * See the thread above. Since no one's come up with an answer here, perhaps someone should bring this up at WP:VP/T. Deor (talk) 21:28, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * It has already been posted at Village pump (technical) with links to other discussions where 40980 is also linked. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Tulloroan hurlers that played with Kilkenny
Dear sir your article does not include billy Burke who played with tulloroan and Kilkenny from 1935to1945 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.43.197.113 (talk) 21:08, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It would really help us if you didn't keep the article you are referring to a secret. :) Roger (talk) 21:37, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * We already have a brief article on Billy Burke (hurler).--Shantavira|feed me 07:56, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

All the new content is gone?!
Hello, I spent several hours editing a page with relevant current content and now ALL the content is gone? I linked to relevant and appropriate newsworthy articles, notable associated people and yet everything was taken down?

I don't understand?

Please advise as this seems to defeat the purpose of allowing people to make edits... *Please note, the content on the current page is completely out of date and I was just updating it with factual information as well as current information to keep it relevant.

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blanche323 (talk • contribs) 23:01, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * What article are you referring to? You've made lots of edits to Rona Elliot and that page is still there.   RudolfRed (talk) 23:24, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Your edits to Rona Elliot can be seen in the page history by clicking the "View history" tab to get . User talk:Blanche323 explains the reversion of your edits was made by an automated bot in response to the addition of YouTube links. Experience indicates that if new editors add YouTube links then the links usually fail External links. Experience also indicates that other edits made sequentially by the same editor usually have problems as well, so the bot reverted all your edits. This may seem heavy-handed but the content can still be found in the page history, and I do see problems with your edits. Wikipedia has a policy about neutral point of view but you sound like you are promoting the subject and may have a conflict of interest. Are you connected with Rona Elliot? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:45, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe that, whatever its "reasons", the automated bot got this right. The article is now a useful account of Rona Elliot's career. Whereas phrases like "In an illustrious career highlighted by ..." give readers the impression that they are just reading advertising hype. Maproom (talk) 09:39, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Help: Ira Cook page - need to re-write to eliminate copyrighted information.
I had done some re-writing of the main article I found information on, but too much of the information is still verbatim from said site. I need help re-writing the article "in 'my' own words". I did a cut and paste of the information originally on the main Article page to the Talk so that I could begin editting and moving pieces back, so that the page doesn't flag as copyright infringement.

Main page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Cook Talk Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ira_Cook --ErikVKing (talk) 23:39, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I had to delete the talk page, as it consisted of a cut-and-paste copyright violation. You can't commit copyright violations anywhere in Wikipedia, Erik. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  00:54, 18 October 2012 (UTC)