Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 October 2

= October 2 =

how i set up a personal wikipedia
I want to set up a personal page and contribute personal info about myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dav3p3rk1n (talk • contribs) 00:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If you are talking about writing info about yourself as a Wikipedia article, please don't. See WP:AUTO. You can add some things about yourself on your user page, but the content must adhere to the user page guidelines.
 * If you are talking about creating your own wiki using MediaWiki software, please see http://www.mediawiki.org. - Purplewowies (talk) 02:32, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

another alternative is a blog. also, can't you make a page on your-self if your a celebrity? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.114.254.43 (talk) 04:00, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * No; you would have a conflict of interest. - Purplewowies (talk) 04:41, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

MY FIRST ARTICLE IS MARKED FOR DELETION.
I HAVE REQUESTED that it not be deleted because it is factual as I liveed it. I was at the company a long number of years and watched the company change.

Many people have been there and know the whole story, and they deserve to have it made public.

This is written many years after the fact and I do not understand why you would want to delete it?????

REPLY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by D44j44 (talk • contribs) 00:45, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The deletion reason used by the tagger is erroneous as it's not vandalism. However, lack of a claim of notability is a valid deletion reason, and lack of reliable third-party sources (unfortunately, that doesn't include you, as original research and synthesis is unacceptable) and the fact that it was written as a personal reflection/essay, which is not encyclopedic, makes it stand little chance of not being deleted.
 * I'm sorry that this first try does not appear to be working out for you. Please post on my talk page if you have any other questions. --Jasper Deng (talk) 00:55, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The article Teledyne Wisconsin Motor (Formerly Known as Wisconsin Motor) uses names of (apparently) real people, some combined with derogatory comments, with no citations. It has been marked for "speedy deletion' because of its negative comments, both about the company and about individuals, and you have provided no sources for the information. Your own memory is not sufficient to support an article. Bielle (talk) 00:59, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

subject matter
i forget, what types of advice can you not give here? and is there only one sign-bot? thanks, 70.114.254.43 (talk) 03:58, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Knowledge-based advice should be asked for at the reference desk, and medical and legal advice should not be asked for at all. This page is for questions about using or editing Wikipedia. - Purplewowies (talk) 04:43, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe there is only one bot that signs unsigned posts, . No others are listed at Bots/Status. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Class project
I am new to wikipedia and I have to create an entry for a class project and I don't know where to begin...Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainhastingsinusa (talk • contribs) 05:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * This has been answered at Teahouse/Questions -- John of Reading (talk) 06:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

kannada Wikipedia page
(Radhatanaya (talk) 07:31, 2 October 2012 (UTC))

Dear Sir, I was not in India for 3 months. Now I'm back. Started contributing articles from today. But, not able to see kannada Wikipedia page. (I write under the name 'Radhatanaya')
 * Are you able to see the Kannada Wikipedia main page at kn:? If not, what do you see there? —teb728 t c 07:51, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

® symbol
In Myers-Briggs Type Indicator there is one editor who puts in ® symbols and another one who removes them. According to the one who puts them in, Myers-Briggs Foundation requests that it be used (edit comment found in article's history). Is there a policy or a guideline for (not) using these symbols? Lova Falk    talk   08:33, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Manual of Style/Trademarks says, “Do not use the ™ and ® symbols, or similar, in either article text or citations, unless unavoidably necessary for context (for instance, to distinguish between generic and brand names for drugs).” —teb728 t c 08:47, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! This policy pleases me.  Lova Falk     talk   08:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I have removed one ® that was missed and done some small cleanup to make it sound less like an advert for CPP. Astronaut (talk) 18:06, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Article entitled "Eshmunazar" and transcription in Hebrew.
I wish to provide a new transcription here because the one shown does not show the "final" forms of the Hebrew characters at the end of words (there are 5 "final" forms). My problem is a a technical problem of transmission. I must use right justification. When I try to load my finished 22-line Hebrew text into your Wikipedia "edit" mask (by highlighting it with CTRL + A and then copying it into the buffer with CTRL + C) and then CTRL V to paste it in there, each word is printed in reverse order. Can I send it separately somewhere as .pdf (works like a photograph) and someone there stuff it in ?Franklin Paladin (talk) 10:23, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Insert the text in the Hebrew language template. Roger (talk) 12:10, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Roger for the quick help. Franklin Paladin (talk) 09:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Section Repeatedly Deleted
An unknown user (identified only be IP Adress) has repeatedly deleted a section from Doug Berger's page. Berger is state politician in North Carolina, USA. The section is on his failed run for N.C. Commissioner of Labor. My material cites concerns over his past political activity. I think the information is well-sourced with primary source material and relevant to his biography. How can I stop this user from trying to delete the material again?Vitocmarda (talk) 11:41, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Give the user a warning message. If the user continues even after Level-4 warning, report the user to WP:AIV. -- Anbu121 ( talk me ) 11:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Replacing primary sources with reliable secondary ones would strengthen your case. Roger (talk) 12:00, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

How can I edit some content on your site?
How can I edit some content on your site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Testinganswers (talk • contribs) 11:56, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Why, it's as easy as clicking on the tab that says "edit" at the top of the page! Well, unless you've stumbled on a semi-protected page. A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  12:04, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * See more at Help:Editing and come back if you have a more specific question. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:15, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Place symbol insert back to former position
Anyone have a method (maybe something I could add to my Monobook.css) to restore the insert symbols dialogue back below the save page/preview/show changes buttons, if this is possible?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:43, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Have you disabled "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" at Special:Preferences? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:12, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * That has no effect. I wasn't clear because I was assuming others were seeing the same thing as me, but Vector users are having an entirely different issue which you were correct in assuming was my issue as well; let me clarify. A problem people have been having with the recent changes is that the insert field disappears when the enhanced toolbar is enabled. That doesn't happen in Monobook. The issue is that the insert field, which used to positioned below the save page/preview/show changes buttons (like this), is now above them, sandwiched just below the edit window and above the edit summary field. I am not having any problem with the field disappearing but want to change its location back.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Village pump (technical) says: "the edit tools will be returning on Thursday (touch wood)". I don't know whether that only means returning somewhere for those who lost them completely, or also returning to the old position. I would not spend time on it now wait and see what happens. Later it may be incorporated in the toolbar above the edit box. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Alice Askew
I created a page for the above person, who co-wrote novels with her husband, Claude Askew. Should I create a page for him, even though I have no more information about him than that which I have included under her name.Collywolly (talk) 12:45, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I reckon a redirect from him to her is best - and have created it at Claude Askew. Pam  D  13:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was tempted to do that myself, but thought it best to ask.Collywolly (talk) 13:17, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

how to create, save and perpetually recall a book
I have had to recreate my book three times on Wikipedia because each time I attempt to recall the book it is gone. I have visited the Teahouse and FAQ page and have not found any basic list of instructions on how to create, save and recall a book. Does a book just get removed if it is not visited for a specific amount of time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artboccuti (talk • contribs) 13:46, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I think the problem is that your account is not autoconfirmed yet. You've had it long enough timewise, but you've not made the required ten edits yet according to your contributions history.  If you take a look at Help:Books, it says you need to have an account that is autoconfirmed in order to be able to save books, so if you've been trying to create them with your IP address, while not logged in, that won't work either.  Make a few more edits, to bring your total over ten, and you should then find that you're autoconfirmed.  Then follow the advice at Help:Books.  If you need any more help, let us know.  Regards -  Ka renjc 17:18, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Many Thanks Karenjc. This may be the most obvious question you will get today, but I must nonetheless ask. How do I make edits? The 6 edits that are listed to my account all pertain to my original question on saving and recalling a Wiki book.  So is an "edit" an inquiry on the Help Desk page? If so should I go the the help desk and ask the question four more separate times?  I most often remember to sign in, and when I don't I always go back and sign in before adding to my book, so signing in shouldn't be the problem.  Again many thanks and I'm sorry for being such a blockhead.  Art.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artboccuti (talk • contribs) 12:22, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
 * No, an edit is any edit to any page on Wikipedia. See Help:Editing. The easiest place to accrue edits without doing actual work is to post to the WP:sandbox. - Purplewowies (talk) 12:44, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

So confused and frustrated
Hi I wrote an article which was declined for reading too much like an advert, I have now re-edited so it's more factual and it now has Waiting to be Reviewed at the top and Declined at the bottom!!!! Talk about confusing. Now tearing hair out because I don't know what else to do and there seems to be no support contact, gah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gertie192 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, the article was declined for being too much like an advert. It's true that it is not written in an encyclopaedic tone and reads more like a press release or brochure copy at present, but you can address that.  Take a look at some articles about other companies for a model.  An encyclopaedia article about a company is typically structured something along the lines of "ABCD inc. is a software company started in XXXX and based in XX.  It has done AA, BB and CC, and is best known for Y."  More detail then follows.  In among this, crucially, are assertions that show how the company is notable by Wikipedia standards.  The notability criteria for companies can be found here, and the general notability guideline is here - the article must show how the company meets one or the other of these guidelines, with supporting references.  Unfortunately your references aren't very good, because most link either to user-generated content (not a reliable source) or to simple sales listings.  Neither of these constitute the "substantial coverage in independent reliable sources" that would permit EuroSmartz to pass the notability test. The best reference you have so far is the pcadvisor.com story, but on its own it doesn't constitute substantial coverage - you need more references to articles like this about the company if you are to demonstrate that it and its products have been covered independently by the news media.  Address this issue, and rewrite the existing copy in the style of an encyclopaedia article, and it has a much better chance of being accepted for publication.  -  Ka renjc 14:45, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Nii Ōshima and Ōshima, Ehime
These 2 pages are referred to the same island, as you can see if you check the Japanese links. --Carlo58s (talk) 14:48, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The co-ordinates show 2 totally different places on the map, and the descriptions sound very different. I can't read the Japanese links, but they seem to go to different pages. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:53, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes true. Sorry for my mistake. I have clicked twice the same link and I was sure that I had clicked both. Sorry again! --Carlo58s (talk) 17:51, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

imagine that you are in search of employment with a company or government department,what do and dont your would keep in mind in your job hunt
imagine that you are in search of employment with a company or government department,what do and dont your would keep in mind in your job hunt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.218.115.124 (talk) 15:48, 2 October 2012 (UTC) &mdash;Kww(talk) 15:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Punctuation.
 * 2) Capitalization.
 * 3) Spelling.
 * 4) Grammar.
 * 5) Asking questions in appropriate places.
 * LOL! Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 15:53, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * This is the Help Desk, where you can get help with using and finding your way around Wikipedia. We don't usually answer knowledge questions (that's what the Reference Desk is for) or give opinions, and we don't do people's homework for them either.  If you want to know how to present yourself personally in a job application form or interview, there are plenty of sites out there with helpful advice.  -  Ka renjc 16:10, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

citation source
Are references to Marquis Who's Who considered reliable source citations in writing biographical entries? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msmslblb (talk • contribs) 16:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope (see WP:SPS). They pretty much take anything you tell them for gospel (I've been in there myself.) -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:45, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Not that the gospel is a reliable source either.--Shantavira|feed me 08:16, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Adding information to an article
I have additional information for the Wikipedia entry on Amado Crowley (Amado Crowley) and would like to know how I can upload the information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xentophace (talk • contribs) 16:49, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * See Help:Edit, and make sure you have reliable sources for your edits.--ukexpat (talk) 17:06, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

乌拉跨氪
Hello, there was no advertising word in the articles (Le Siècle, Corps of Mines, ...) in Chinese version, they were the translation of English or French versions. Why he (乌拉跨氪) deleted partially the articles (lists of members, admission conditions, references, ... and each time the "excellence" was mentionned)? Why he prohibits the author? Why nobody else can verify the articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.117.157.164 (talk) 18:11, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Which edits to which articles are you questioning? I can't see any recent problems with Corps of Mines (France), Le Siècle (think tank), or with Le Siècle.  If you are asking not about edits in the English Wikipedia but in the Chinese Wikipedia, you'll need to ask there. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:47, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * If your problem is with User:乌拉跨氪, you should be able to contact him at zh:User talk:乌拉跨氪 or perhaps even User talk:乌拉跨氪. —teb728 t c 18:55, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

He didn't discuss! He deleted first, no answer to questions. When the articles were corrected back, he deleted them again and forbided the author. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.117.157.164 (talk) 20:20, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

乌拉跨氪 again
Hello, some articles (Le Siècle, Corps of mines, ...) were translated into Chinese. In these articles, there was no word of advertising, but he (乌拉跨氪, Hong Kong) deleted all lists of members, admission requirements, related references, and each time when "best students" or "best schools" were mentioned he deleted them. These articles do no more reflect the facts (or almost distorted). He forbids the author to log on zh.wikipedia. It is unfair. Could someone do anything?

Other articles about some French companies, he deleted the "Markets and Products", the CEO names, as they are advertising. I don't understand this person!
 * Chinese Wikipedia is a separate project. Nobody on English Wikipedia can do anything about what they do there. —teb728 t c 19:41, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

But how can Chinese wikipedia let him do this?
 * You still don't understand. You are on the wrong site. This is not the Chinese wikipedia. We are not speaking for them. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 20:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Maple Jam Music Group
I'm having a hard time trying to delete the account "Maple Jam Music Group [us]". My boss is the President of Maple Jam but it has now changed to only a management group. She would like to delete Maple Jam Music Group [us] due to the company no longer existing. If you'd like prove please feel free to call Star Andreef and you can verify the companies new name at www.mjmg.us

We just want the account deleted please & thank you.

Sincerly,

Taylor Beckett (Star Andreef's personal assistant) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylorashlynn1 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I can’t find any account by that name, but there is an article, Maple Jam Music Group. Is that what you are talking about?
 * Articles are not generally deleted just because the subject changes names. And the article is certainly not subject to Ms. Andreef’s approval. There is, however, a possibility the article might be deleted if the Maple Jam Music Group never met our notability standard. —teb728 t c 19:56, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Maple Jam Music Group isn't an "account", it is a Wikipedia article and we do not delete articles merely at the request of someone connected with the subject matter of the article. If the article is factually incorrect, please use its talk page to suggest how it should be changed to reflect the change in the group's activities, and provide some reliable sources to verify, thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 20:00, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion for WIKIPEDIA to add this Person Encyclopedia
Aida Giachello Maisonet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aidagiachello (talk • contribs) 21:48, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * You can list her at Requested articles. If it's you or you represent or are closely connected to her then see Conflict of interest if you consider adding information about her yourself. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:08, 2 October 2012 (UTC)