Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 October 25

= October 25 =

Ryobi Ltd. article factual error
The Ryobi Ltd. article is inaccurate as it lists Techtronic Industries as the "Parent". Techtronic licenses Ryobi power tools for manufacture in all markets other than Japan. However, the largest portion of Ryobi Ltd's. income is from their Die Casting division followed by the Graphic Systems division (printing presses). While publicly traded, the Urakami family are the primary shareholders. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.109.78 (talk) 01:24, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I removed that line from the infobox. Rojomoke (talk) 05:23, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Recent changes from new accounts
How long does one have to have an account before it stops being tracked by the recent changes counter from new accounts? I'm asking this because User:Anonymouse321 is still being tracked there despite having an account for a month and over 2000 edits. A boat  that can float!   (watch me float!)  06:43, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * That's me . I've tried searching around, but the closest I could find (Help:User contributions) does not mention anything about "newbie" edits. –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 06:52, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I posted at the Village pump since it may be a better place. –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 07:18, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

The question was answered at the Village pump. –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Redict
Is it possible to create a redirect page that redirects one to a specific section of an article? I am asking here due to the attention message when creating a new section in the Redirect Help page saying that not many users view that page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KidXap (talk • contribs) 08:54, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is possible to do that. After you've typed in the name of the article, add the # sign and then the name of the section. For example, if you wanted to link to the 'History' section of Christmas you'd type #REDIRECT Christmas . Hope this helped!  A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  09:15, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

How to extract information from wikipedia?
Hello! I want to save tables, as the one below: http://i.imgur.com/6rLFB.png but I want to save them as they are, editable, with their sorting script functional, etc is there a way? thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.251.115.2 (talk) 11:57, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The article is Protein_secondary_structure. I made it sortable. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 12:11, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If you want to save and edit them with a similar wiki interface you can make your own mediawiki installation, see here. They (talk) 17:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Creating infoboxes
I've been editing this page, and have considered adding an infobox:



I've added infoboxes to other pages I've edited by just copying them from existing pages and changing the details, but I'd like to know how to create one from scratch.

The list of templates on the above-noted page includes an infobox called persondata, but I noticed elsewhere that there is an infoboxperson template as well. Which one, if either, should I use, and how do I create it? I tried adding infobox person to the above-noted page, and the name merely showed up in red, with no cells in which I could add information. I'm obviously doing something wrong. Help with this would be much appreciated. NinaGreen (talk) 18:38, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * You'll find an entire catalog of infoboxes for people at Category:People infobox templates. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:47, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much, Orange Mike! I copied the basic template from Infobox person onto the page, and added some additional parameters, and it worked. Any chance you could add the honorific back to the title of the page? He was made a knight banneret at the Battle of Crecy. NinaGreen (talk) 19:18, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Honorifics are not included in article titles, see Naming conventions (people). - David Biddulph (talk) 19:28, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that information. I've run across a number of Wikipedia articles with 'Sir' in the article title, and didn't know that that was generally not the right way to do it. And belated thanks to Orange Mike for fixing that. NinaGreen (talk) 19:38, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The only articles which should have "Sir" in the title are ones about baronets, where the "Sir" is their title, like Aloysius Piffle, 13th Duke of Smeg or Quincy Barkington-Puffbosom-Tawdry, 6th Baron Bumfodder. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  23:50, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If I recall correctly, Persondata isn't an infobox. persondata is a metadata template; see Persondata. - Purplewowies (talk) 19:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Glad to learn the difference. Thanks.NinaGreen (talk) 20:04, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Cross-category search
I am searching for an article, which I know exists, about a male English Jewish comedian, active in the 1930s. I have found Category:English male comedians, but it lists 310 articles and I do not want to check them all. Is there a way of combining categories, something like "English male comedian"+"Jewish"+"born 1890-1910"? Maproom (talk) 19:29, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * You can look at List_of_British_comedians. Ruslik_ Zero 19:40, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The tool you need is WP:CatScan Roger (talk) 21:06, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Image is too big
I just made a new article. Arik Braun You can see what is wrong with it. Legolover26 (talk) 19:31, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Ruslik_ Zero 19:36, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, Ruslik beat me to it. A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  19:38, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, plenty of things wrong with it. No references, no evidence of notability, so I fear that the article is likely to suffer speedy deletion.  Try reading WP:1st, WP:BIO, WP:BLP, WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The page is in its beginning stages, the stages in which it is tiny and need references, expansion and all. I am still working on it. It is clearly of encyclopedic content, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legolover26 (talk • contribs) 19:42, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Not clearly so, at all. You would have been well advised to have continued your development in user space at User:Legolover26/Arik Braun until it was ready to be published. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:47, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't reliably source its claim of notability. Its only source is another Wikipedia, already a tertiary source (and therefore, not really meeting WP:RS), and on top of that the article referenced has no references itself. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:24, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Now it does. The only thing that indicates otherwise is the unreliable notice. Could someone please check the references and remove it? Legolover26 (talk) 20:46, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * In that case, I will.Legolover26 (talk) 13:04, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

help with changing title of a page
Hello, I am trying to edit the name of Cuno Puempin on Wikipedia from German Pumpin (with a German u), to English Puempin. I have Puempin all over the page, except the title which reads in German. Are you able to help me correct the title as well please ? I was told to ask an administrator for help, but am unable to locate his/her address.

Thank you in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.199.103.135 (talk) 20:08, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Can you show me something to prove that his name is Puempin and not Pümpin? If not, the name should not be changed. Legolover26 (talk) 20:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Legolover26 is quite right. The relevant guidance is Naming conventions (use English).  Basically, the English Wikipedia doesn't automatically replace ü with ue in  German names just because English doesn't have a ü.  If Cuno Pümpin is normally recorded with a ü in English reference sources then he should have a ü here; if he's normally recorded with ue, then use ue.  I have removed the email address from your post to deter spammers, per the notice at the top of the page - replies to your question will not be sent by email. -  Ka renjc 22:25, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I have edited Cuno Pümpin and returned all incidences of his surname to the German spelling. I can find no evidence that English reference sources anglicise the spelling of his name, and plenty to suggest they don't.  -  Ka renjc 14:19, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Changing the title of an article?
Hello, I work for Greenstone TV, a production company in New Zealand. How would we go about changing the title of this article without having an account? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenstone_Pictures The name of the company was changed last year. Everything else is correct, just need to change "Pictures" to "TV." Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.126.133.214 (talk) 20:19, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for telling. The name of the article has now been changed. And now I will go about changing the names within the article text. Legolover26 (talk) 20:25, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If the name changed last year, then it doesn't look as if all the references in the text should have been changed. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:29, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.126.133.214 (talk) 20:55, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia article on the national sporting organization in Ireland
Hi, I found that the Wikipedia article on the national sporting organization in Ireland had major ommissios. When I rated the article accordinglly, a suggestion popped up for me to edit it. ...only to find the page locked.

..I contacted the supervisor for the page and asked if I could submit my suggestions for him to review. That was several weeks ago, and I have not had a response. I am new to Wiki, and interested in contributing some more information over time. Could I please have some suggestions on how to go about getting my material considered. Thank you so much!

GAAFAN, Ireland — Preceding unsigned comment added by GAAFAN (talk • contribs) 20:30, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Can you please be more specific about which article you are referring to? If you refer to the GAA as you mentioned on John Reaves' talk page, the Gaelic Athletic Association is not locked so you are free to edit it. SassyLilNugget (talk) 20:43, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The Edit link for Gaelic Athletic Association leads to a page with an edit box starting with  . Perhaps this confused you if you have never edited before. See Infobox organization for the documentation, or scroll down in the edit box if you don't want to edit the infobox. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * There is no "supervisor for the page". An administrator apparently locked the page for a good reason such as vandalism. If that's who you contacted, that person might not have a specific reason for watching the page. We do have volunteer editors, some of whom watch pages to see that content added to them is acceptable. If the page is locked, put the  template on the talk page. —  Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 19:38, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Following up: I went to GAAFAN's contributions and User:John Reaves is the person who was contacted. He has no recent edits on Gaelic Athletic Association (which is not locked as Prime Hunter said), so it must be another article. Someone new to Wikipedia is not likely going to know how to find who locked the page, but that person might find a frequent contributor in the article's history.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 19:54, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

New content addressing company and products behind the "Grub Hub" registered trademark.
As the owner of the registered trademark "Grub Hub" I would like to include information on the company and products behind the trademark. All company info may be found at www.grubhubusa.com This content will help clarify the distinction between our company and the company "GrubHub" that is an online vendor for food related services. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.224.112.248 (talk) 22:57, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Anyone can edit Wikipedia articles to add information, but since you are affiliated with the subject, read WP:COI first. It can often be better to leave suggestions on the article's talk page for other editors to make the edits.  RudolfRed (talk) 23:41, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Leaving Messages
Hi! I am a new user on Wikipedia, and I was wondering, how do I leave a message on someone else's talkpage if they don't have a button that you can click to create a new message? Any answers will be appreciated. Thanks, B. Jakob T. (talk) 23:36, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Just click the edit button at the top of the page, and add your message at the bottom.  RudolfRed (talk) 23:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * For a new topic it's often better to use the "New section" button. See more at Help:Using talk pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:42, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * When you click on a red "talk" next to the person's name, you will likely see this:

- No messages have been posted for this user yet. - To start a page called User talk: person, type in the box below. When you are done, preview the page to check for errors and then save it. Just start typing in here, and then check for errors and save. Hope that helped. --ErikVKing (talk) 00:48, 26 October 2012 (UTC)