Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 October 5

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= October 5 =

About Editing
How can I use images from other websites? And a question how can a user become administrator? Where will I find the wiki codes? --pratyya (talk) 04:49, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll try to answer these as best as I can Pratyya. In order: 1) You probably can't use images from other websites at Wikipedia.  Wikipedia does not normally accept images without a clear provenance, and usually requires that the image is either a) old enough to be in the public domain or b) uploaded directly by the person who created the image.  There are exceptions, but they are very complicated.  See Non-free content criteria for information on that.  2) To become an administrator, a user has to pass an "election" of sorts at Requests for adminship.  There are no "hard" rules as to what is required to become an admin beyond "very familiar with Wikipedia, all of its conventions and rules, etc."  If you're too new to know how to become an administrator, you're also too new to be an administrator.  Keep working at Wikipedia, make lots of good content contributions, and start to be involved in "behind the scenes" work as well, and you can apply when you are ready.  3) Help:Wiki markup covers the full spectrum of "wiki codes".  Does all that help answer your questions?  -- Jayron  32  04:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * You first have to save the file to your computer, then upload it using the upload file wizard. After you upload it, you can add  in the place of a page you want to add it to. However, there are very strict copyright standards here, so please read this page before beginning.
 * To become an administrator, you can request it from this page. You may want to read this before you request adminship.
 * Are you talking about wiki markup? If so, this page is a good place to get started.
 * If you have anymore specific questions, feel free to ask. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:01, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

John Ulrich Giesy
I added the death date at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ulrich_Giesy and noticed whilst editing that there is information on the EDIT page relating to Otis Kline. I didn't want to remove it, but I don't think it should be there. Collywolly (talk) 06:19, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks like the page creator began with a copy of the Otis Adelbert Kline article, but didn't update the Persondata and Categories at the bottom. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:58, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks like the page creator began with a copy of the Otis Adelbert Kline article, but didn't update the Persondata and Categories at the bottom. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:58, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Where should I contest an award of featured article status?
This is what it says on the tin: an article was awarded featured article rank but patently does not deserve it. WP:FAC is run as a one man dominion: one guy calls the the shots and who cares if anyone has a problem? Well I do and one article in particular should be struck down. I admit I haven't been as current as some might expect (I work on oil rigs) but I don't see why that should affect the argument at all. Quantumsilverfish (talk) 06:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * De-listing featured articles is discussed at WP:FAR. Try starting a discussion on the article there. Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 06:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Detail of "salt" in urdu language
I need help. I was looking for details on the word "Salt" which has a lengthy detail in English language but very short in "Urdu" language. Can I likewise find a detailed information in Urdu. Regards. Muhammad Ahmad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.185.176.231 (talk) 07:00, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * You could read a mechanical Google translation of the English article here. Is that what you want? —teb728 t c 07:11, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

On This Day 13 October
I want to nominate an entry (Sister Nivedita's death) on October 13's On This Day. How can I do so? Shall I add it directly here: Selected_anniversaries/October? --Tito Dutta ✉ 08:47, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The principles for the choice of entries for "On This Day" are found at each day's talk page e.g. Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/October 13 with the FAQ. See in particular "A4: Births and deaths can only be used on centennials, etc. Exceptions can be made if they are directly related to assassinations, executions, natural disasters, civil accidents, genocide/extinction, or other historically significant topics that frequently appear on the Selected Anniversaries pages."  On that approach, there is no point in you adding her death to Selected anniversaries/October 13.  She is already listed at October 13 and that's the only other place I was going to suggest. BencherliteTalk 08:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Ya, I just added it in October 13 article. --Tito Dutta ✉ 08:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Libel - Inaccurate entry on Inter City West Coast Entry
The page for Intercity West Coast states that I am one of the three officials suspended at the Department for Transport.

This is untrue and is libellous. Please delete this reference to me from the page.

InterCity West Coast. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.205.93.54 (talk • contribs)


 * The Telegraph has changed its wording, and the article now reflects that. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  13:16, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

How do I delete my account?
How do I delete my account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charles.criss (talk • contribs) 13:15, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Accounts cannot be deleted but you do have the right to vanish.--ukexpat (talk) 13:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

finding it very difficult to get the page I am creating right
I am finding it very difficult to get the page I am creating right. Wikipedia keeps threatening to delete my page even though there are sound references. I am finding it get direct help with creating my page. Is it possible to get 1 on 1 help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisamcgrillis (talk • contribs) 14:13, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Assuming the page in question is Lisa McGrillis, then you need to know that writing autobiographical articles (or contributing to articles about yourself) is very strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. The reasons for this are explained at Autobiography. Gandalf61 (talk) 14:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey there ! I`m Redalert2fan and you might have seen me around "your" article, I do want to help you but you are not responding on your own talk page ((talk) and the article talk page (Talk:Lisa_McGrillis) and we asked some questions there. I recommend you to respond to the question to clarify some stuff. but as I said before I do want to help you. just ask what you want to know on my talk page. ((talk) Redalert2fan (talk) 09:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to respond on my page? I'm finding wikipedia page very difficult to use. Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisamcgrillis (talk • contribs) 15:58, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * go to your own talkpage and go to the latest section and press edit, then post a reaction under the latest comment Redalert2fan (talk) 16:07, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Porn found on the Morality article
The first link in references section of morality in the media article goes to porn. This is a attack on morality on the media as well as your organization. This is very low blow. Please correct this.

The link is has the name: About Morality in Media at MIM site and points to http://www.moralityinmedia.org/index.htm?aboutUs.htm

Thank You, Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.120.88.166 (talk) 14:40, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The link goes to a page at the Morality in Media website properly. I suspect that the web page for the organization has been hacked again. (the Wikipedia article indicates that it was hacked back in February as well.) You may want to contact the organization to find out if they intend to fix that page, if so, then leave the ref, if not, it should either be designated as a dead link or possibly replaced with an old copy from archive.org.Naraht (talk) 14:55, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * They've been shut down entirely as of 8:47 CDT. Orange Mike  &#x007C;  Talk  01:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The main website is back up; but the link given above is dead. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  00:52, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Adding a disambiguation page for the name Anne Mortimer
I've been editing this page on Anne Mortimer, Countess of Cambridge:

Anne de Mortimer

On the Talk page of that article someone asked about distinguishing between this Anne Mortimer and the modern British artist and book illustrator, Anne Mortimer. Would this entail creating a stub article on the modern Anne Mortimer, and a disambiguation page? How does one go about creating a disambiguation page? Currently a search for Anne Mortimer automatically redirects to the article on Anne Mortimer, Countess of Cambridge. NinaGreen (talk) 16:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Apparently nobody has yet deemed the artist worth the effort of creating an article about. If you know enough, then create one and title it Anne Mortimer (artist); then put hatnotes on both articles to distinguish them from each other. We don't do disambiguation pages if there are only two notable persons of that name. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  16:34, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I've heard of the artist, and seen some of her work, but I don't know enough about her to create the page, so I'll leave that up to someone who knows more about her. Very useful to learn that there have to be more than two notable persons before a disambiguation page is created. NinaGreen (talk) 17:09, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's a fairly obscure rule (unless you work a lot with dabs). It's also contradictory to the etymology of the word disambiguate; but then, I know better than to commit the etymological fallacy! -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:28, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

endless effort to delete
After reading wike reply, i'm not a child and i'm aware we can't have a page for everyone in the world. yes that's right, i'm not stupid. But when wiki list Kasland on other pages. If he was on Souljaboy's tour ,as wiki shows, then goes on to sell on itunes. And listed on 5 other pages including record release date pages. I'm concerned by the statement from editor ANBU121.. "Its true that Wikipedia should ideally be free flow of information. But, accuracy of the information is equally important". I wiki does not consider itself accurate with information it uses on other pages I ask "who at wiki is qualified to edit or judge the creditablity of anyone". This is not an agruement but a valid questioning of the entire wiki network we the puplic support and believe in. Casperjo22 (talk) 02:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia cannot source to itself. We're an encyclopedia, a tertiary source. Some people here are experts on subjects; many are not. We use reliable sources to create reliable articles. We judge the reliability of our sources because an article is only as good as its sources. A source that mentions someone doesn't necessarily prove the notability of that person. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:16, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I just looked up the page for KASLAND after buying a song on iTunes. There's a notice his page is under consideration for deletion. Concerned after having purchased Ashland's music and then being told he does not exist. I read the reasons for deletion. They went on forever, every objection the an editor was answered and his objection shown to be false. After looking at the editors page it looks like he's been in violation of wiki rules.

I use wiki to find early life info on individuals I find interesting even if they may have not yet have gold albums. I donate to keep a free flow of info. And if I can look at a wiki page and from there read articles and find interview on the artist. I don't find why there should be a reason to delete his page.

I would like to know why I support a site of free flow information, yet some overzealous editor can endlessly discredit an artist for being young. An artist I went to wiki to find info after purchasing his music. This endless effort by nog, I think is the editor name, does not serve the purpose of a self editing site. Again the artist page is KASLAND. And again I would like to know why continue to donate to an idea that has lost sight of its purpose. Casperjo22 (talk) 20:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * There aren't reliable sources that prove his notability. I agree with the nomination for deletion. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Its true that Wikipedia should ideally be free flow of information. But, accuracy of the information is equally important. That's why there exists many processes and systems, just like the discussion you witnessed. An encyclopedia need not have an article for every person in the world. Wikipedia is meant only to reflect and summarize whatever information you could find in reliable sources elsewhere. If a person is not notable by virtue of reliable secondary sources, an article on the person might not be reliable. -- Anbu121 ( talk me ) 20:36, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

this has now peaked my interest in your processes, you reference KASLAND in at least 6 other sites. 3 of which are well known artist. one is a gold disc selling artist. So he is valid on those pages but not on his. Casperjo22 (talk) 02:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The sources did not prove his notability enough for a stand-alone article. If you can find reliable sources that prove his notability, please feel free to follow the appropriate avenues and stay in line with the policies and guidelines to write an article. WP:YFA and WP:AFC may help you if you have sources and can prove notability. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Hour of last edit
I just read an article that said it was last edited on October 5 (today) at 19:38. Do you use Greenwich Time? 75.5.245.156 (talk) 20:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * All Wikipedia time is based on UTC. Dismas |(talk) 20:58, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * But logged in users can set a time zone at Special:Preferences. This affects times generated by the interface such as your example. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, this gadget can convert other time text (such as date signatures). –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 01:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

American History
Can someone please explain to me the events that led to the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand? Here is the link to the article and a picture of Franz Ferdinand: Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylanreed95 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * There is plenty in that article to explain the events leading up to the assassination, starting with the background section. Did you read it? Do you want something more specific? Maproom (talk) 22:28, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Sybilphd
I can't log in after several tries and it says I did not associate my email with my username, but I did. Now I cant get in! Sybilphd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.185.141 (talk) 22:37, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * When I go to Special:EmailUser/Sybilphd, I receive a warning message:  This user has not specified a valid e-mail address.  You created that account several years ago, and you never did anything with it.  Why don't you just create a new username?  If you still want to use the username "Sybilphd", you won't have to work hard to get it: since the other account has no edits, you could create an account at any other username and then request a username change.  You can have your username changed to one that already exists when the existing account has no edits.  Nyttend (talk) 23:14, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Special:Log/Sybilphd shows the account was created 29 May 2007. Are you sure that was you? I wouldn't remember whether I supplied an email address 5 years ago. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:20, 6 October 2012 (UTC)


 * There's also an account User:Sybilphd1 created in October 2011. Did you perhaps create that one instead, when the name you wanted proved to have been taken? It might be worth trying your password on. -  Ka renjc 10:19, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Removing a deletion tag from an empty category
How does one remove the deletion tag from Category:Unreviewed new articles created via the Article Wizard from October 2012? I'm not going to create an article and ask for review (much less un-review an already-reviewed article!) just to remove the tag. I've looked at Monthly cleanup category, but that didn't help. Nyttend (talk) 23:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Fixed with . Monthly cleanup category already tries to determine whether it's the current month and omit the tag in that case, but I guess it uses a string template which fails when the category name is too long. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:11, 6 October 2012 (UTC)