Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 September 19

= September 19 =

I don't know how to add a source to the information I edited
Under the article Extemporaneous Speaking, I modified the Body Paragraph to look like this: "It is common that Extemporaneous speeches will have good deal of structure. Upon figuring out the main points you wish to present, your next step is to decided how you are going to structure your speech. There are five basic patterns of organization: Chronological Order, Spatial Order, Casual Order, Problem-Solution Order or Topical Order.  One of the most frequently used pattern of organization is Topical Order, which will accommodate three contentions or points, each containing two or three sub-points[2].  A popular and easy to follow method of composing contentions includes the three sub-points: Theory, Application and Case Study."

I have a source for my information and noted the last part that I edited with the [2],

ref name="mbankers"></ref For location I put the location of the McGraw-Hill Company. I'm not sure how to add the [2] to get it to go to my source.

If you could let me know how to do this in the future that would be nice, but for now please add it so there's a correct source in the information.


 * I fixed the reference - you have to put the ref inside the body text - not under the References heading. The software automatically creates the "ref number" - editors don't do that. I also fixed the other references - they all had problems. See WP:Referencing for beginners. Roger (talk) 19:38, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

I need help creating an article about..
this, but I do not understand what this video is actually about? Thanks. --Hurting Flashtire (talk) 00:30, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Something to do with Football. The artist is Paul Gascoigne AKA Gazza. The song and video brought 15 minutes of fame as a pop culture idol but sadly, he returned to football.  As the Wiki page fails to even mention his "music career", it is a serious omission.  --Robert Keiden (talk) 00:53, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Preview references when editing a section
Is there any gadget or trick to show references in the preview of a section? It's extremely tedious to keep adding  at the end and keep forgetting to delete it before actually saving. The idea is to somehow add a virtual " but didn't close the template with double curly braces (you used one), and didn't close the citation with  . See this diff. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:51, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Editing in progress
Is there any way to display on an article stub that the expansion of the article is in progress?

Thanks

Ronodeep.srimani (talk) 13:34, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps In use or Under construction. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:52, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Redirects
I guess this question could be in regard to policy but am unsure. The page Hockey in the Olympic Games currently redirects to Ice_hockey_at_the_Olympic_Games. However the person searching (Me in this Instance) could have also meant Field hockey at the Summer Olympics. How to address this issue? --HarshAJ (Talk)(Contribs) 17:08, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I have changed Hockey in the Olympic Games to a disambiguation page. Roger (talk) 17:12, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

User ratings
Why do the Hail to the Thief and Amnesiac (album) articles have zero user ratings? They should be relatively popular articles. Do the ratings reset to zero every time the page is edited, or is something else going on? Popcornduff (talk) 18:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hm. I just rated Hail to the Thief with four 3s, and it now reports there are 32 ratings for it. That doesn't seem right either.--Robert Keiden (talk) 20:14, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * mw:Article feedback/FAQ says: Your rating will become "expired" after 30 revisions of the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:35, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hm, that's... interesting. Do you know if it just completely dumps these, or does it store them somewhere? Theo polisme  20:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * mw:Article feedback/FAQ has a data link but the data dumps don't appear to be updated. I don't know whether there is a way to get data for a given page. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:02, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Creating a PDF shows HTML markup in the result
When creating a PDF from the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_%28programming_language%29#Language_innovations, the resulting PDF contains HTML markup.

E.g. (f arg1 arg2 arg3) becomes (f arg1 arg2 arg3) in the PDF file. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.118.133.27 (talk) 18:48, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I see this in the PDF as well -- I assume it is some incompatibility with the Lisp2 template. Looking into it some more... Theo polisme  20:45, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no tag in HTML 5.0. The pdf writer is just not compatible with this standard. Ruslik_ Zero 10:01, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * So simple - duh! Would it be difficult to turn it into a /  template? I doubt it. Theo polisme  11:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I researched the usage of HTML 5, and the solution would be to use  . I tried it in a sandbox and it works; it gives a bigger font on the Wikipedia page, and the PDF is generated in a correct way.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uve bianche (talk • contribs) 13:26, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Article ready for editing and possible inclusion in wilkapedia
My article submission is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:The_Beta_Test_Initiation. is it in the right place for review and inclusion in wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardy1956  (talk • contribs) 20:48, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I moved it to mainspace. Roger (talk) 21:05, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Roger

Script for article size
Hi, User:Dr_pda/prosesize used to work from the URL line. Is it still working? I could not get it running any more when I tried it on Jesus. Any ideas? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 22:29, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Not working for me either using Firefox or Safari. Though you probably know this already, you could actually install the script. It's got a tiny footprint, only providing a toolbox link when you hit show preview, and I can report it still works. Anyway, if you need it, the statistics for Jesus are:

Prose size (including all HTML code): 231 kB   References (including all HTML code): 61 kB    Wiki text: 249 kB    Prose size (text only): 102 kB (17604 words) "readable prose size" References (text only): 4488 B
 * Meanwhile, I'll go post about this at User talk:Dr pda/prosesize.js, but the script owner is not very active. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:12, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * At least Firefox requires you to bookmark the javascript: URL first. See the relevant Bugzilla entry for details. They did this to neutralize malicious JS code from attackers who convinced Facebook users to copy and paste it into the address bar. PleaseStand (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. User:Shubinator/DYKcheck does work however, FYI. History2007 (talk) 07:32, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Font size
Hello,

when reading a page in Wikipedia (ANY page) in English, the Font size is very small and hard to read.

In ANY other language (for example: German), the Font is much larger and easier to read

How, if at all, can I change the Font size in English?

Thank you in advance!

Dennis Baker — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.110.189.200 (talk) 23:10, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Your browser is probably remembering a change you made by accident at en.wikipedia.org. In most browsers: Reset the zoom to 100% with or adjust it with  and .  and mousewheel is a common way to change it accidentally. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:21, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Also note that some laptops have multitouch touchpads that, by default, react to iPad-style "pinch" and "spread" gestures. This is also an easy way to zoom out unintentionally. PleaseStand (talk) 00:06, 20 September 2012 (UTC)