Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 September 20

= September 20 =

Jpeg image in monument contest and in commons? How? Thanks
Uploaded a photo to commons and then wanted to use photo on wiki monument contest. When I upload I get a warning that the image is already in the system and gives me one option of deleting the photo. How do I link a photo in commons to one of the photo request for the contest? The contest only gives you the option of uploading a jpeg. Confused in key west. Thanks John — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capedoryus (talk • contribs) 00:15, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You uploaded an image correctly at commons:File:Customs House Key West.jpg. It was automatically submitted to the contest for Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 in the United States. It has been reviewed but was unfortunately not nominated for best picture. Here is an example showing how it looks when an image is nominated: . PrimeHunter (talk) 01:27, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

How do I request an article?
Please have someone create an article about nectresse, a new product from Splenda, not related to sucralose. It is "made from monk's fruit," but has to have a chemical composition. Benhowe30 (talk) 02:37, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Requested articles. Tijfo098 (talk) 02:40, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * A "new product" is unlikely to be notable enough for an article unless it received substantial third party media attention. Roger (talk) 07:14, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And to answer your question more directly, from : "Monk fruit contains mogrosides, which are antioxidants that produce a sweet taste, but lack calories. Nectresse uses monk fruit extract as one of its primary ingredients." Wikipedia is not only source of info on the internet. Tijfo098 (talk) 17:42, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Some info on Chinese ruling cliques with US/UK/Canadian passports/PR
<< > — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.134.89.14 (talk) 06:50, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? -- John of Reading (talk) 06:57, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

DAB link
Someone please fix the link at the top of Paradise Island, the DAB I created has a lowercase i for island, and not sure how to fix it. C T F 8 3 ! 10:53, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorted. You needed to add an extra parameter, like this:  Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 10:57, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, actually should island be capitalized? C T F 8 3 !  11:34, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, when all entries say Island the page name should clearly also. I have moved it. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:33, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

hlist template displayed with nowrap - apparent bug
The hlist template:TRW instance at the bottom of the TRW article was very wide since there was no text wrapping of the displayed contents of the list. This was observed in Firefox, Chrome, and IE9(64 bit). I apparently fixed it with this change. After that change, viewing the previous version showed no template width problem. I found the same problem with the hlist template:MSNBC Personalities at the bottom of the Joe Scarborough article. I apparently fixed it with this change, but again the previous version shows no problem. Is this a bug? Overjive (talk) 11:08, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you asked on WP:VPT?— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 19:58, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. The situation is discussed here Overjive (talk) 00:11, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Would a block hinder a username change?
Right now I'm about 5% serious about changing my username to User:Boat. Although it has never edited the English Wikipedia, it does have a sockblock on the German Wikipedia. Would it be a problem? A boat  that can float!   (watch me float!)  12:59, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think it will be a problem unless you also request to usurp the name at the German Wikipedia. A username change only works at one Wikipedia language or Wikimedia wiki. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:48, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't plan on editing there any time soon, but that would be a problem. Thank you for the answer anyway! A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  04:43, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Status of Created Article
D ear Sir/Madam,

I have created an arcticle about Geomedical Engineering, last updated on 11-September and sent for review and publich on Wikipedia. Until now there is no response abOUT its status. I doubt, there is some problem in creation.

Would you please check and let me know the status of this article.

Best Regards, Atteeq — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atteequr (talk • contribs) 13:11, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Normally there is a backlog of articles at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation. I'll review it for you now. A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  13:28, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I'm on the fence about this one. It certainly seems like a good topic, but there are small formatting issues and I'm not too sure what you're talking about. A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  13:31, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I have fixed some of the formatting issues and added section headings per WP:MOSHEAD. It still needs to be wikified and inline citations added, see WP:Referencing for beginners.--ukexpat (talk) 14:27, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Unified Primary references vs. Diffuse Secondary references.
I was looking at cleaning up the Southern Polytechnic State University section on Fraternities and Sororities on campus. The section when I got there had references for each fraternity to a place on their National web page, mostly simply to the main page but a few to a chapter search page or chapter list on the Fraternity/Sorority web page. I found lists in the Student Organization section of the SPSU web page specifically indicating what Fraternities and Sororities were on campus in each of the councils. I agree that in general secondary references are superior to primary, but I'm not sure the National Fraternity/Sorority web pages count as secondary sources for the fact that the chapters are there and I think a smaller number of pages with exact lists are superior to the diffuse National pages. Comments?Naraht (talk) 14:04, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Just for this situation, Talk:Southern Polytechnic State University is where you should discuss this. To answer the question in general for similar situations, WP:VPP would be a starting point.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:02, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Changing my company's logo
I work for Camp Fire, a youth development organization (recently Camp Fire USA). We have undergone a recent re-branding and have formally changed our name and our logo. I would like our Wiki to reflect that but cannot find a place to edit this information.

Help! Hannah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camp FireNational (talk • contribs) 14:40, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I have confirmed the name change and moved the page, leaving the previous title as a redirect to the article. I have also removed the old image from the article.  To upload a new image, your account needs to be autoconfirmed, i.e. to be four days old and have made at least ten edits.  Your current account is not autoconfirmed, but there is a problem - your username violates Wikipedia's username policy because it is the name of an organisation and could be seen to represent that organisation rather than an individual.  You cannot continue using this name, which will shortly be blocked, and since you have so few edits I would suggest you just create a new account.  If you would prefer someone else to upload the new logo instead of waiting for your new account to be autoconfirmed, please go to Files for upload.  Take a look at the image page for File:Camp Fire USA.svg, the old logo, to see how the new one should be described and licensed. Please bear in mind that as someone who works for the organisation you should be very wary of editing the article - see WP:COI - and should request that someone else make any changes to the wording, which is already flagged for being too promotional in tone. Feel free to ask for more help with the image if you get stuck.  -  Ka renjc 15:31, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I updated the image and moved it to File:Camp Fire.svg. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 00:35, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

translations
How to add a translation to a page whic does not exist in my language? How to edit a page in my language, translatin untranslated parts from the English page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GalyaV (talk • contribs) 14:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You can find links to all the different Wikipedias at http://www.wikipedia.org. Just go to the one for the language you're interested in and start editing.  RudolfRed (talk) 15:42, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * For translating English Wikipedia articles to other languages see WP:Translate us. Roger (talk) 18:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

problem with image upload
Well, all I wanted to do was upload an image of the singer Valdy onto his page. It's my photo, taken in 1976, and yet I can't get it to appear on the page, and I keep getting semi-helpful messages that actually don't help me at all. The photo is now (somewhere, god knows where) on the Wikipedia site. But I can't find it, and for sure I can't get it to go to the Valdy page, in spite of another semi-helpful suggestion. And really, what good is it to have someone suggest that I put a scrap of code on the page if (a) I'm not told WHERE on the page it needs to go and (b) if the code isn't really linked specifically to the image. It would be very helpful if somewhere, and preferably in an easily findable location, e.g., on the upload interface, there were step-by-step instructions on how to make the image appear where one wants it to appear. I'm now in the absurd position of having successfully uploaded a photo – a unique image, btw, made by me and therefore mine to do with as I wish – which I can neither find nor use. Theonemacduff (talk) 15:40, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I found the name of your uploaded picture by checking your contributions list, and I have edited the article so that the picture is displayed. There are probably too many "help" and "how-to" pages for images. The one you needed was Help:Infobox picture. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:54, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I found the name of your uploaded picture by checking your contributions list, and I have edited the article so that the picture is displayed. There are probably too many "help" and "how-to" pages for images. The one you needed was Help:Infobox picture. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:54, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * (More) Since this is a picture that you created, there is a problem with uploading it as a "fair use" image. You should visit WP:ICTIC and choose one of the acceptable licenses listed there. Then visit File:Valdy performing in 1976.jpg and edit it to add the license code. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:02, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Is my submission in the correct spot?
Hello,

On 9/7 my article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Howard_J._Buss was submitted. Since it has not been accepted or declined to date, I was wondering if it was in the right place. The header on the page states that it would take several days because of the backlog, but it is now nearing two weeks. Is my submission on the right page to be considered for acceptence into Wikipedia? Thanks.

SusanSuemanning1972 (talk) 16:25, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * It is in the right place, but you have not actually done the improvements mentioned in the previous review notes - get rid of the adverts and fix the references - then it will be ready for another review. Roger (talk) 18:59, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

I did add inline citations and references. As for "adverts," this is the first time an editor has mentioned the term to me. (I had to look up.) Could you please give me an example of one in this article? I did not knowingly put any in it. Thanks. Suemanning1972 (talk) 19:43, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * To quote from one of the review comments already on the page: "You want to remove the "where to find" information from the discography or this will be seen as advertisement. Wikipedia is for encyclopedic information". --ColinFine (talk) 19:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions. I have one more question. I removed the "where to find" information and also removed the redundant references that were not part of the foot note citations. How can the "This article has an unclear citation style. The references used may be made clearer with a different or consistent style of citation, footnoting, or external linking. (September 2012)" note at the top of the page be removed now that the problem has been addressed? Thanks for your assistance! SueSuemanning1972 (talk) 21:43, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Democratic Party extending from Democratic Republican Party
The page on the Democratic Party, the History section seems bias. It claims that the Democratic Party arose from a split in the Dem-Rep party with the Democrats holding closer to Jefferson's views. This is an attempt to connect the Democratic Party to Jefferson. I understand that the Dem Party is often referenced as the "party of Jefferson." But, if you look back to what the Dem-Republicans stood for and What Jefferson stood for, the Dem Party has only a little in common. More importantly, the primary views of free-market and small government are most certainly not held by the Dem Party of today. Rather, the Dem Party and the Republican party are parties that have some elements of most parties through history and cannot truthfully be attributed back to one party. Thus, the bias slant to make the Dem party an extension of Jefferson's party should be scrubbed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.74.55.82 (talk) 16:43, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The best place to have this discussion is on the talk page, Talk:Democratic Party (United States). --ColinFine (talk) 18:21, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Libels on wiki article "Ariel Fernandez"
Dear Wiki editor, I am writing in regards to wikipedia article entitled "Ariel Fernandez". Somebody paid by the Morgridge Institute for Research based in Madison Wisconsin is sabotaging my wikipedia article entitled "Ariel Fernandez". This person cowardly conceals his identity and has IP domain 108.85.185.122. This person keeps on distorting the information on the article "Ariel Fernandez". He has contacted my former employer Rice University with libels and keeps on removing any mentioning of my former affiliation with the Morgridge Institute for Research. Please block any further action by this person. Thanks much, Ariel Fernandez — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.200.118.209 (talk) 20:56, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree that you and the IP have been edit warring on Ariel Fernandez (assuming that you are User:Arifer), and both of you should read about dispute resolution, which begins with the parties discussing the matter.
 * However, the text you have repeatedly added ("In this capacity he also held a Distinguished Investigator position at the Morgridge Institute for Research in Madison, Wisconsin") is unreferenced, and therefore, by the Wikipedia policy on biographies of living persons, anybody may remove it. If you provide a reference to an independent reliable source for the information, then it should be retained.
 * In fact most of the article is not referenced, and it generally reads like a resumé, which is not appropriate for an encyclopaedia article. Also, judging by your username, I suspect that you are the subject of the article: if this is the case, you should be aware that autobiography is very strongly discouraged on Wikipedia, and you would be better to restrict your involvement in the article to making suggestions on the article's Talk:Ariel Fernandez. Wikipedia is not for promotion of anything or anybody. --ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

using the help chat
i tried to use the help chat for some assistance with an edit and was twice unable to type in that white area where i was directed. i can type anywhere else, i tried. need help with http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_advocacy&action=submit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suzeikew (talk • contribs) 22:57, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You edit Talk:Patient advocacy just as you have edited here, by pressing the edit tab, typing your comment and saving. I've had a look and all seems to be working normally over there - maybe you hit a glitch?   Is there something particular about the talk page or the article we can help you with? -  Ka renjc 08:27, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Karenjc: I think Sizeikew is saying that they could not type when trying to use "Live editing help via webchat", but that they were looking for help (on some other matter) about Talk:Patient advocacy. But I've never used the chat facility, so I can't help. --ColinFine (talk) 14:59, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Me neither unfortunately; maybe someone else can explain what might have happened? But the offer of help with Talk:Patient advocacy is still there if the OP needs it. -  Ka renjc 18:24, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

block
can someone delete/block my account, please?--Wicked345 (talk) 23:11, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Accounts can't be deleted, but you should read WP:VANISH for an alternative. RudolfRed (talk) 23:41, 20 September 2012 (UTC)