Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2012 September 24

= September 24 =

Still Under editing from 2 years
Hi, I have query about biography we wrote about our Guide.It is available at http://www.wikigrain.org/?req=Dr.+T.R.+Gopalakrishnan+Nair. Status shows "still under Editing" from past 2 years.I want to know what shall I do to get it uploaded at Wikipedia? Regards Richa — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.178.202.10 (talk) 04:25, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The article was deleted from Wikipedia: Articles_for_deletion/Dr._T.R._Gopalakrishnan_Nair. The main concern was lack of notability and too much promotion.  RudolfRed (talk) 04:33, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Note that Wikigrain is not run by the Wikimedia Foundation which runs Wikipedia. The text "Still under Editing" was added to the article by the creator User:Doctoral.symposium before Wikigrain copied the article, at a time where it had not yet been deleted from Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:15, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the information. In fact it was handled by students at that time. Currently, we would like to submit with a professional writing with all aspects ( notability, and achievements). You may please advise us whether there is any time window or can it be done at any time in an year and what could be the size of write up.?". Once again thank you very much for the great support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richarichas (talk • contribs)


 * You should not use a professional, as he would inevitably have a conflict of interest between serving his employer and writing a good article. Just write something which is short and not promotional, but gives enough references to establish that the subject is notable. It does not matter if your English is not perfect; improving the English is easier than removing bias. There is no time window, you can do this whenever you like. Maproom (talk) 21:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

typographical error in semi protected article
I was reading the page about American Football player Aaron Rodgers when I noticed the following error in section 2.3 " Rodgers performance setup the Golden Bears" As the subject of the sentence is the performance of Rodgers, there should be an apostrophe following the "s" at the end of the name so that it would read as follows, " Rodgers' performance setup the Golden Bears" The page is semi-protected and as I do not have an account, I cannot make the edit myself. I am sure that all of you at Wikipedia have much more important things to worry about than the omission of an apostrophe but I felt that i should bring it to you attention never-the-less. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.247.238.81 (talk • contribs) 05:07, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Suggested change has been made. NameIsRon (talk) 05:14, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit/addition to current page – We Didn't Start the Fire
I have attempted to add the following to the external links...or anywhere, whithout success. Can someone do it?? I think it is a great contribution!

Add to –  We Didn't Start the Fire

http://yeli.us/Flash/Fire.html

A really good ppt/slideshow of the song, a lot of work to put together and free! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shalong40 (talk • contribs) 08:21, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Since this is a 1989 song it is certainly still copyrighted, so unless I've missed something, that external site is a copyright violation. It therefore can't be added to the Wikipedia article – see WP:LINKVIO. – John of Reading (talk) 08:52, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

I have written a completely new draft
Hi,

I have written a completely new draft with the title: ‘The Infectious Diseases Index’. I clicked on ‘save page’ but I did not get the message ‘under review”. How can I see that the new draft is under review? Thanks.

Ben — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben Gavron (talk • contribs) 11:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Infectious Diseases Index as a New Tool in Epidemiology has not been submitted for review again. Click the link in the second box saying "When you are ready to resubmit, click here." But you have to do some formatting first. There are two versions of the article on the same page. There should only be one. You were meant to edit the original version and not add a second version below. See Help:Section for how to make section headings such that a table of contents is automatically created. And see Referencing for beginners for how to make inline references. I haven't reviewed the content. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:59, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Despite uploading pics as instructed, they do not appear on my Wiki page
Hi,

I have been trying for several hours to follow the online instructions to perform a simple operation. I wish to add a picture to the side info box on the page relating to Cyclobe: Cyclobe

However, despite numerous attempts to do this, all I ever get is a link asking me to start the process all over again!

The picture is small (47k)

It is free usage, having been donated by its photographer Ruth Bayer for unlimited promotional use by Cyclobe.

There are no content issues – it's just a portrait shot of two people, fully clothed.

And yet, no matter what I do I always end up with a hyperlink instead of an image. The image itself has been uploaded to the Wiki site at File:Stephen_Thrower_and_Ossian_Brown,_founder_members_of_Cyclobe.jpg

Try as I might, I can't get it to appear on the main Wiki page as a thumbnail. Please could someone check to see if there's a technical problem, and if not provide me a step by step instruction showing me where I'm going wrong!

Many thanks,

Daniel Mars Panomco (talk) 11:33, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You need to make sure the file name of the image is correct in the article's info box. The file name of the image you linked to above is  Stephen Thrower and Ossian Brown, founder members of Cyclobe.jpg , but the file name in the info box is  cyclobe.jpg . If the image file cannot be found, the info box displays the file name in red, indicating that it is a broken link. Gandalf61 (talk) 11:48, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It's been fixed already. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 11:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Wonderful! Thank-you for the quick response! – Daniel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panomco (talk • contribs) 12:46, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Why is there Serbo-Croatian and Serbian and Croatian Wikipedias?
Isn't it redundant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.22.21.3 (talk) 11:58, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know the languages but it sounds borderline. Nationalism and the Yugoslav Wars may have something to do with it. Most editors will be from the involved countries. See Comparison of standard Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian and meta:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Serbo-Croatian. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

HELP! I can't find the replys....
Hello... Last week I asked a question in the Tearoom. This week when I log into Wikipedia, it tells me I have an answer, but it doesn't tell me how to read the answer. No matter which link I click or where I look, I can't find my question or its answer. HELP! Oh, and if you answer this, I wonder if I will be able to find your answer? Thanks... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claywestfall (talk • contribs) 12:27, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The Teahouse Questions page is regularly archived to manage its size. Your question and its answer are on an archive page here. Gandalf61 (talk) 12:34, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * A week is a very long time on most of the Wikipedia help and reference desk pages. You should come back to your question much sooner than that. Most questions are completely dealt with in less than 24 hours. Roger (talk) 12:39, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Search bug?
Currently the Wikipedia search box is not functional using my IE8 browser although this browser successfully uses the search box facility on many other sites without difficulties. Are y'all having issues with your search box system and if so when do y'all expect it to function as usual? Kindly note that I have been using this facility for a number of years without any problems whatsoever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.215.166.189 (talk) 14:11, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * (I added a header to your question) It's perfectly fine on Chrome 21 for iOS. If the problem continues you can file a report at Village pump (technical).  A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  14:52, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

something wrong in Kling Klang Studio
that's what i've found till now, i'll appreciate it if anyone can help me, and thanks in advance – Dr. Cravix ♪Eternal Reminiscence 15:15, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Kling Klang Studio says kraftwerk bought a 16-step sequencer called Synthanorma, but in Trans-Europe Express (album), Synthanorma is 32-step sequencer, and refs for these two statements are the same- I Was A Robot by Flür. obviously, there must be sth wrong, but i can't check it since i don't have such a book.
 * 2) Quote from Kling Klang Studio: The band members had begun spending eight to ten hours a day in the studio, regarding themselves as "musical workers". since there's a "had begun" (pluperfect you know), there must be a specific time to match it, but there's not; if it's 1976 or 1973( shows), then comes a severe logical error: from following content we know they spent 8~10h a day designing a mobile studio for 3 years, and it was designed for Computer World tour- but Computer World is released in 1981 (and even the album before it Trans-Europe Express was released in 1977), how can they design a mobile studio for a tour about the album which they haven't even released? i feel very confused,
 * This should all be discussed at Talk:Kling Klang Studio: that's what the talk pages are for. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  15:43, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Article Title still includes my User name?
I has been working on creating an article on wikipedia for Laurel Hill Presbyterian Church of Dunbar, Pennsylvania – a historic church in the Appalachian Mountains.

However, when I finished, the title is shown as User:Jjscully/Laurel Hill Presbyterian Church of Dunbar, Pennsylvania, instead of just Laurel Hill Presbyterian Church of Dunbar, Pa. How can I get my user name out of the title? I have done articles before and this has never happened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjscully (talk • contribs) 16:42, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Help:Moving a page.  Rcsprinter  (rap)  @ 16:51, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

✅ See: Laurel Hill Presbyterian Church (Dunbar, Pennsylvania). -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  19:11, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

For sale
How do I list the item that I have for saleDudra4700 (talk) 17:55, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You head over to http://ebay.com and do it there. You certainly don't do it here.--ukexpat (talk) 18:05, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Anglo-Soviet invasion of iran article
Requesting that an administrator restore the name of this article to "Anglo-Soviet Invasion of Iran":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admin_Please_delete_this_page

An editor had incorrectly changed the name of the article to "invasion of iran", which is not the historical term for this invasion, without consultation on the talk page for the article.

I have not been able to restore the name without losing the edit history of the articleJanus945 (talk) 18:31, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You have Someone has accidentally created a new article Anglo-Soviet Invasion of Iran, with no history or talk page. Someone (with more skill and maybe more power than me) will have to delete Anglo-Soviet Invasion of Iran, then rename Admin Please restore name of this article to "Anglo-Soviet Invasion of Iran". Maproom (talk) 19:10, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Yup that will require an admin. The proper place to request this was WP:Requested moves.--ukexpat (talk) 19:14, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

New article question
Hiya everyone, Still new but learning as I go here. I've had this article declined twice not exactly sure why. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Amanda Blain I believe notability... But i'm not sure. I've listed all third party sources including things like The New York Times, Google.com(for google plus), about.com, Women's World Magazine, Huffington Post etc. The person is high profile in social media with close to 2 million followers so I figured it passed 'notability' along with the other awards and achievements they have accomplished. That's why I picked them as my first article. Are there not enough sources? Does there need to be more actual text content? Any suggestions would be great.

Geek4gurl (talk) 19:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not the quantity of sources that is important but rather the quality and the depth of coverage that they give the subject. I suggest that you contact User:Spartaz (who last declined your submission) on their talk page to discuss.--ukexpat (talk) 19:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I did ukexpat :) They just linked me to the generic "General_notability_guideline" with no farther help or information. "Please read Our inclusion threshold to get a feel for what kind of sourcing we need to publish an article. Spartaz" I read that page fully before I started. So I figured i've obviously missed something. I didn't want to bother them again. I didn't submit a thrown together random article like many i see in the articles for creation. I fully read how to source and submit properly and spent a lot of time on it. Was hoping for some more detailed guidance than the 'generic notability' page into what improvements need to be made so I can get it right or understand what level a subject needs to be included. Is there a discussion area or talk page or something else I could set up? Thanks for your response. Geek4gurl (talk) 20:12, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Most-followed Canadian on Google Plus? That's nice, but it's not notability in any meaningful sense. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  02:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The problem is how much substantial coverage you have in reliable sources. Google Plus and About.com are generally not considered reliable sources: Google Plus carries a mix of unedited user-generated content and promotional material; About.com is not all written by professional writers and there's questions about the degree of editorial oversight.  Other links like Media Tapper just mention a name and aren't sufficient to establish notability, which requires more substantial coverage. The New York Times link gives "Page Not Found", so that's no use. Psychology Today and Women's World are better, and more sources like that would be good: you should concentrate on press coverage like that, not links to Google Plus.  If the Women's World and New York Times stories are substantial (and currently I've no way of knowing) you may be close to the notability threshold. --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks Colapeninsula ... Your responses make sense. I corrected the New York Times link. I honestly figured that someone who has 2 million followers and had created a popular social network herself was notable. I'll look for more articles about her and perhaps try some other wiki articles to get started. It seems people are very hard to get in. Do you recommend a beginner start somewhere easier?  Thanks for your help.  Geek4gurl (talk) 20:38, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

How to create an article? - Articles for creation/Zorpia
In the past it was easy to create an article. But now it seems that the Article wizard is the only way to publish an article. That's why I've created the Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Zorpia, and I started to wait.

Until now nothing has happened. No "talk" has started. Did I make any mistake, or do I just have to wait a bit more until someone decides about my article?

Please help and let me know what I can do.

Kabelsalat (talk) 19:44, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The draft is not in the review queue because you have not added the review template. Add to the top of the draft to add it to the queue.--ukexpat (talk) 19:49, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot. I'll do that immediately. Kabelsalat (talk) 19:52, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * For the record, you can still create a new article the old way. Just click any redlink, and you can create the article.  For inexperienced users, we ask them to use the (entirely voluntary and optional) AFC process, and indeed steer them that way as much as we can, but there is no technical prohibition nor rule against just creating the article from scratch in the mainspace. -- Jayron  32  19:57, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Android login failures
After reinstalling Wikipedia on my android phone, I cannot log-in. I have reset my password & CAN log in from my computer with that password. On my phone, after pressing Log in, I get no message, just the login screen again--JimWae (talk) 20:08, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is a website - how does one "install" it? Roger (talk) 06:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * What you can install on an Android phone - I just tried it - is an app that presents Wikipedia content. But it does it badly, it's easier just to access WP through a browser. Maproom (talk) 06:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has an official Wikipedia App. This might be what the OP is talking about. Though, after reviewing the article, I doubt it.  The article says that it's for reading only and thus wouldn't have any login feature.  So until the OP returns to let us know what they're talking about, I guess we're stuck.  Dismas |(talk) 07:05, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

There's a setting in the browser to always use the wp-app when the browser encounters a wp page. My fat fingers accidentally said "yes". After that, one is no longer asked whether to open in wp-app or in browser. I want to use browser so I can see my watchlist. I uninstalled wp-app, hoping that would enable me to reset the default way to view wp pages. I can now again see the login screen - but no matter what I put in, I am returned to the login screen. So, at least I can again GET to the login screeen, but apparently there is some residue from my fat-finger accidental choice, that I have not been able to undo. --JimWae (talk) 18:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Historical Landmarks for San Bernardino County, California
On the list of Historical Landmarks for San Bernardino County, California, a location north of Barstow (in the mojave Valley near Trona and Boron) is incorrectly listed as being in the city of San Bernardino. I was unable to edit/correct the information myself. Mtngrl821 (talk) 20:44, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You are referring to California Historical Landmarks in San Bernardino County, California?--ukexpat (talk) 20:52, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I have moved the article to get rid of the redundant second "California". Roger (talk) 22:04, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Remove my personal information
My personal information and likeness are on a biography page on wikipedia. for my family's privacy I would like to try and have this deleted. Can I do that? At least remove my personal information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pootie2 (talk • contribs) 22:12, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I added a heading to separate this topic from the unrelated one above. What biography page are you concerned about?


 * We don't necessarily need to know the page. See WP:AUTO.  It includes an address to email about any legal issues that there might be with information that is unsuitable for inclusion here at Wikipedia.  Dismas |(talk) 00:15, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The article seems to be Van Damage . a porn BLP. It's largely unsourced, but the one cited ref is correct. Meters (talk) 01:50, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Help About Problems
I do have problems with the Newton Police Department. They do keep telling me,I do not have trouble with my back and seeing. I tell them,I do have trouble with my real eye times. They will just call me a Liar. They do know,I have only one eye. They do keep calling me a Liar,when I do say, I have trouble with my back. They will not calling me a Liar. I am not the Liar. I have saw a Doctor times,for my back. I also did go to an Emergency room,since my back did hurt and I did have trouble breathing. I was breathing very slow for 36 hours. I tell the Police Officers,Chief of the Police and the Lietenant that and they call me a Liar. Now they tell me walk and never turn my head. That should show,if they see me walking and they my head move. They will take me to Jail,since my head did move. They do seem like they do know everything in the United States. I do need help,to stop them calling me a Liar,when I do say,I have any trouble walking or seeing. The Chief of the POlice did tell me,a Police Officer does have one eye and it is not sore,so my eye is not sore. I need help,to stop them abusing me. They will not stop treating me like that and a Police Officer Benard did yell bad language at me a day. I do need help,to stop being like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.40.70 (talk) 23:04, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * This page is for asking for with help using Wikipedia. We can't help you with other issues.  RudolfRed (talk) 23:09, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Italicizing an article's title
I recently tried to italicize the title of an article about a film. The article is Ithuteng. I tried moving the page and adding italic mark-ups around the name, but that did not italicize the page–it just changed its title to Ithuteng with quote marks around it. How can you italicize an article's name? Thank you. Safehaven86 (talk) 23:32, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Add Infobox film. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 23:34, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks much! Safehaven86 (talk) 23:39, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And for article which are not films, you can use Italic title, or one of the other methods listed at WP:ITALICTITLE RudolfRed (talk) 23:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)