Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 April 18

= April 18 =

JOEL OKUYO ATIKU
. Please do your research. Most of yhe info you have currently on Joel Okuyo Atiku, is Fake

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.223.161.61 (talk) 00:01, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Mobile view
Why have I been getting the mobile view for the last hour?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:39, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * In Chrome, I am able to get desktop view, but not in Firefox.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:04, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Firefox works for me. Try to completely clear your cache in Firefox. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:08, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Photos
Qui se permet de mettre des photos personnelles???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.21.148.198 (talk) 02:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * This is the help desk for the English Wikipedia.  You can find the version for your langauage here: http://www.wikipedia.org/   Or you can see if WP:IMAGE has the info you're looking for.  RudolfRed (talk) 02:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The French Wikipedia help desk is at fr:wp:Guilde des Guides, and the French version of WP:IMAGE is at fr:Aide:Insérer une image. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Bad Quote Formatting
I can't figure out why the formatting for a particular quote is weird, and if it's just a combination of my browser and resolution, or if others have the same problem.

Talk:Jet_Li

I thought I'd bring it here since that page is so inactive.

Thanks, Naapple (Talk) 02:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I've left a message at Talk:Jet Li --Ushau97 (talk) 04:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The documentation pretty emphatically states that it should not be used in article text. Also see MOS §Block quotations.


 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 10:09, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Add Language to Page
Hi Everyone, I'm really new to wikipedia. My company wanted to be present on Wikipedia Ind I don't know how we ended up building this page MALOCLINIC Day Hospital. What we want know is to add the same page in different languages. How can we do what?

Regards, Raffaele Colleo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raffaele.colleo (talk • contribs) 07:00, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * If your company only cares about a "Wikipedia presence" they're doing it wrong. — Jeremy  v^_^v  Bori! 07:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * And promotion of any kind is explicitly and emphatically forbidden on Wikipedia. I suggest you read WP:CORP.
 * But to answer your question, each language Wikipedia is a separate project. They all welcome new articles, and translating existing articles from other Wikipedias is an efficient way of working, but there is nothing automatic about the process. (Each Wikipedia has its own rules, but I guess that they all have the rules on conflict of interest and promotion in some form or another). Once an article exists in more than one Wikipedia the article can be linked together via Wikidata, but I believe that the initial linking has to be done manually. --ColinFine (talk) 16:44, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Editing Page Title
Hi,

I would like to ammend the page title of Peter Richardson (actor) Peter Richardson (actor). Peter Richardson is mostly a director not an actor and this leads to confusion when searching for him as he is more commonly known as a director. I don't know how to change this, can anyone advise on what I should do?

Thanks Snowdrop4 (talk) 13:41, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Titles are changed by moving the page. Peter Richardson also has a link to Peter Richardson (filmmaker) for an American documentary film director. "director" would be a poor disambiguation from that. We would need something like "British director" to distinguish them properly if we say director. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * British director makes sense and is completely accurate. Sorry, I'm quite new to wikipedia, so i don't quite understand your instructions for changing the title. Snowdrop4 (talk) 14:01, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Go to the article, and at the top (by the search bar) you'll see a little down arrow - clicking on it will give you the option "Move". Select this, then on the subsequent page enter the new title for the page and a short reason. Then hit the "Move" button. The page will be moved and a redirect will be left at the old title. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  14:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * P.S. more complete instructions are here. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  14:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Brilliant, thanks so much. The page has successfully moved, however when you search for peter richardson the disambiguation page still shows him as peter richardson (actor) noT (british director). Will this update itself in time as this was the primary reason for moving the page! Snowdrop4 (talk) 14:36, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * That won't happen automatically, but I've done it for you. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:48, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Brilliant, thanks so much, was getting very confused!Snowdrop4 (talk) 14:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Changing the citation style in an article
In an article that uses harvnb and sfn I would like to change the citations to use citation templates and rp. Should I simply do this or is such a move considered controversial and requires prior discussion? --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  15:09, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It is generally considered bad form to change one citation style to another without discussion.--ukexpat (talk) 15:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Example?


 * and, while not actually requiring them, are pretty much designed to use citations. Citation style is one of those subjects that seems to cause a furor whenever it it changed.  Discussion on the article's talk page is probably your best bet, lest you provoke the wrath of those who find whatever style you choose to be an effrontery that cannot and will not be suffered.  Yeah, it's happened to me.


 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Without knowing the article in question, we can only give generic answers. It would appear that are being used and manual citations. As noted, please discuss changes before implementation. And some editors detest rp. --   Gadget850 (Ed) talk 16:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The article in question would be Wolstenholme prime. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  09:31, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The established style is and citation. --   Gadget850 (Ed) talk 09:47, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree. I am the editor who originally introduced the citation style. I don't know whether that gives me the right to change the style, though. I guess, the best thing would be to start a discussion at the talk page, though I have to admit that change might not actually be necessary. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  09:56, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, what Editor Gadget850 said. [I]s such a move considered controversial and [does it] requires prior discussion? Yes and yes.


 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 09:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Redirection of search to suitable page?
Whilst watching the film 'Schindler's List' an on-screen text refers to a 'Department D', being unsure of what this referred to I searched Wikipedia but the main results had no mention of the complete phrase 'Department D' rather referring to various police departments, department stores and government departments, all unrelated to the film's Gestapo reference. Whilst I am aware that a search in speech marks for the complete phrase i.e "Department D" brings the Gestapo to the top of the search results, would it not be better for the casual Wikipedia user if a search for Department D (not in speech marks) automatically redirected them to the appropriate Gestapo topic or even the specific part of the Gestapo topic? For example a search for 'Department 1A' (another Gestapo department) takes the searcher directly to the Gestapo topic page. Is there anywhere I should discuss this and if it is deemed appropriate, how would I go about redirecting a specific search? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThurstenEgorGreene (talk • contribs) 15:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * User:ThurstenEgorGreene created a redirect page, Department D, aimed at the primary Gestapo page which I refined to the appropriate sub-section. --Kevjonesin (talk) 01:29, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

No response to suggested edit in 3 weeks
For whomever may be following this: I work with the company Moody's to watch for vandalism and offer improvements where possible. I am very familiar with COI guidelines, and so choose to not edit Wikipedia articles directly. Recently, I have been offering suggestions to improve the article "Credit rating agency" which is quite terrible in many ways. In late March I posted a request on the article's discussion page, but I have received no response whatever. Efforts to seek a non-conflicted editor include the placement of a "request edit" tag on the post, asking help at WikiProject Finance and with the COI Noticeboard. As yet, no answers. At present I am focusing on just one section. I wish to invite anyone to review my proposal, if they are so inclined. (My original post is here.) Many thanks in advance, Mysidae (talk) 15:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * But you only have a weak conflict of interest because this is a general article about rating agencies. So, I think you may edit it (with some care). Ruslik_ Zero 18:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * That is an interesting point. Much of the article concerns "criticisms" of rating agencies, which I certainly would be very, very careful about. I am very cautious and have not directly edited in some time. The section I wish to focus on now is not primarily about that, however it does touch upon criticisms. But they are not criticisms of Moody's. I will consider it as a backup. Many thanks, Mysidae (talk) 21:05, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree that editing "with some care" would be appropriate/acceptable but would suggest to do so 'with some disclosure' on the article's talk page of your bias concerns. --Kevjonesin (talk) 01:48, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Page deletion
My page, HammerkatzNYU, was recently deleted. This page represented a very active sketch comedy group in New York City. The deletion logs says "G8: Page dependent on a deleted or nonexistent page." This is because the group's original name, Wicked Wicked Hammerkatz, was changed in recent years. I would like to have the page returned to Wikipedia. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jp2212 (talk • contribs) 17:07, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Relevant links are: Hammerkatz NYU and Wicked Wicked Hammerkatz. As far as I can tell, the first never existed with that title or as HammerkatzNYU.  The second was deleted in February, probably because it was a redirect to another page which has since been deleted.  Unfortunatly, I can't see what it was.  An administrator might be able to tell you, or you could ask User:GiantSnowman (the deleting admin) for help.  Astronaut (talk) 17:31, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Hammerkatz was deleted pursuant to this discussion.--ukexpat (talk) 17:59, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

How to format wikitables with divs - need 4 tables in 1 row
Hello, I hope it is the right place to ask. If not, please redirect me to the right place.

I'd like to have 4 tables in one row. I am trying with divs. Everything seems to be ok, however as you can see the tables in the right are going down and down... they are not aligned.

Please check here.

Thanks for your help -- ★ Pikks ★  MsG  18:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, it looks like somebody just edited it and corrected it. Much appreciated :). -- ★ Pikks ★  MsG  18:41, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Part of the problem was the numerous blank lines, which I removed in my first edit. Then I re-arranged the divs so that the plain-text captions are always going to be the same depth, whatever the width of the window. This makes sure that the tops of the tables line up. (And then before I could post back here, someone knocked at the front door, and then the phone rang) -- John of Reading (talk) 18:48, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! What do you think... to make the reading easier, would it be better to change the background color of the different divs? For example, white, grey, white, grey? Or maybe add the borders to the divs? I am just wondering if it's easy to read or it would be better to change something... -- ★ Pikks ★  MsG  18:55, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I think the layout makes it clear enough without adding more borders and shading. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Finding Obituary
Hi, I am looking for an obituary of Rosetta Haynes in The Pharos Tribune in Logansport, IN. I have used several of your search boxes and I get: Are you looking for Robert Haynes or I get a list of results which mix first and last name with other names.

Thanks for your assistance. Carol Jean — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.8.175 (talk) 18:31, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Have you tried the paper's website at http://pharostribune.com/ ?--ukexpat (talk) 18:41, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * And in the future, please ask for answers to such questions at the Reference Desk.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:23, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

bringing to your notice some of the mistakes regarding your page
well i recently read your page about lingam,it explains what a shivling means,well i wanted to bring it to your knowledge that the information provided about it is not correct. according to that page the lingam is often represented alongside the yoni, a symbol of the goddess or of Shakti, female creative energy. The union of lingam and yoni represents the "indivisible two-in-oneness of male and female, the passive space and active time from which all life originates". The lingam and the yoni have been interpreted as the male and female sexual organs,but this is wrong,lingam is not lord shiva's reproductive organ,lingam in sanskrit means representation or symbol.so a shivling simply means lord shiva's representation or lord shiva's symbol.had it been lord shiva's penis then it wont be named as shivling but it would be called shivshishnam because in sanskrit penis means shishnam.shivling was made so that people worship it if they want to worship lord shiva,because lord shiva was forbidden to be worshipped in his own form. yoni does not mean female creative energy,it means earth and earth is referred to as goddess parvati(lord shiva's wife). its my sincere request that u rectify the mistakes on that page as soon as possible. thank you
 * The place to discuss improvements to the article is on its talk page. Bear in mind that you will need to support your proposed changes with citations to reliable sources. -  Ka renjc 21:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Mitch Clarke Deleted
I am wondering why Mitch Clarke who fights in the UFC has been deleted by your site? He is fighting again in UFC 161 in Winnipeg and it will be his third fight. It was suggested to be deleted by JohnnyBonesJones who has been suspended from posting on this site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.76.83.189 (talk) 19:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Articles for deletion/Mitch Clarke. Seems that after the third fight it may qualify for undeletion. Should I have admin put it in my sandbox so you can work on it?--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:23, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Mitch Clarke was deleted as result of Articles for deletion/Mitch Clarke; the deleting admin noted WP:REFUND at Requests for undeletion, and it could be moved to an editor's user space for completion and restored 15 June once he makes his appearance. Dru of Id (talk) 20:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * If admin would like to put it in my user space then I can add a link to the DR so IPs can find it and edit.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:15, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

incorrect info
hi, I am the owner of excalibur aicraft and i would like to report an error. The Excalibur is not from the quad city challanger.. or associated in any way. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.58.41.41 (talk) 19:23, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * This is the book that was used as a source. You may able to contact the author and have him clarify. It seems a little WP:UNDUE to call it a clone if it isn't. The title of the article seems funny as well, Excalibur Aircraft Excalibur. Should it be Excalibur (aircraft)?--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:40, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I modified it without removing material. Does it look ok now? I don't know how they can call it a clone with all those differences. Do you have any pictures of it that you would like to donate?--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

The article needs more neutral third-party reliable sources, instead of relying on claims from the manufacturer(s). -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  21:27, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * That whole section is from the book and I don't have a copy. That is why I couldn't change the comparison. I just removed the term 'clone' which seemed undue as it can't be with all of those differences and then modified the wording to match.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:59, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * My edits were reverted by aircraft projects. You will need to discuss it on the talk page of the article.--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:36, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Image alignment
Hi,

I'm somewhat perplexed by the alignment of this image File:. Montagu William Douglas.jpg, which appears on its side when seen in compressed form, but the right way up when seen in full. I uploaded a slightly cropped version to minimise the reflection glare. I also rotated it to align it "correctly", or so I thought. When it was uploaded it appeared on its side. The original version appeared to be the right way up when seen in thumb form, but on its side when seen in full. I notice that the file has a dot before the name. Does this have an effect on the visible alignment? What is to be done? Thanks. Paul B (talk) 19:30, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * See it sideways in the article. Fair use images should only be 220 to 300px wide so you should just crop out a 300x300 piece with just him in it. Or crop then scale down.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:46, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I didn't upload it originally. Of course I can cut its size down further. I don't understand your first sentence. Do you mean it appears sideways in the article? Yes, I know. Will resizing it help with the orientation though? Or will it need to be renamed or entirely recreated? I'll try resizing initially. Paul B (talk) 21:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I did that. It had no effect. Paul B (talk) 21:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I cropped and scaled it. If it is ok now then you should put Template:Orphaned non-free revisions on the page to delete previous versions. The rotation is in the EXIF data so I just removed all the data.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:52, 18 April 2013 (UTC)