Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 April 5

= April 5 =

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you should change it to no edit buttom and have only professionals change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.166.67.252 (talk) 00:28, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you volunteering to provide us a grant for a few billion dollars of funding, to hire those professionals to change it? -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  00:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Does that mean Wikipedia is allowing anyone to edit because it lacks funding to hire professionals? :) ···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 13:00, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, last time that happened it didn't work too well... - a boat   that can float!   (watch me float)  05:06, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Darcy Ward continued
Sirs

How about the added weight of an official statement from Ward ... does that carry any weight?

http://www.speedway365.com/index.php/elite-league/elite-league-news/3564-official-statement-from-darcy-ward

D A Farrar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subedeithemongol (talk • contribs) 01:59, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The place for this discussion is Talk:Darcy Ward. The editors who have been reverting your changes are more likely to see your comments there than here.  Dismas |(talk) 02:04, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Email blocked
My email address has been blocked — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.232.105 (talk) 05:33, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * [[Image:P computing.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Purge image thumbnail
Earlier today I uploaded a new version of File:NRHP Illustrated Counties.svg. After uploading, I purged the image page on commons, and I purged the page on which the image is included (WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Progress – Warning: Large page that may max out your RAM for a bit while rendering). I was unsuccessful at getting the image to update, although everywhere else it seems to have updated perfectly. I've cleared my cache and reloaded the page bypassing my cache, but no matter what I do, I can't get this one thumbnail to update. I thought maybe it was a Wikipedia server thing, and it would eventually update, but it's been several hours, so I feel like it should have had time by now. I'll note that every other size thumbnail (e.g. 399px instead of 400px) is fine, but the 400px thumbnail just won't update no matter what I do. Can someone help?--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 06:04, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I had this happen to me last year. Tried everything they suggested over at commons(as you seem to have done judging by the above), could not get it to work. Waited a day or so, and it eventually did. Must've been some kind of server lag somewhere. Maybe wait it out?  He  iro 06:16, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking the time to report this! The problem you are reporting sounds like an issue in the code of the MediaWiki software or the server configuration. I have copied the issue to the 'Bugzilla' bug tracker (anybody can do this, see How to report a bug for more info). This is needed to make developers of the software aware of the issue. The link and number of the bug report is on the right, so everybody can inform themselves about status and progress. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 23:51, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * This problem should be fixed now, thanks to Leslie of the Operations team. If it is not, please leave a comment in 46976. I'm sorry for the inconvenience caused. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 23:04, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Suggestion of merging from 2010
I just want to remind that, the article The Leveret Spirit has been suggested to be merged with Tu Er Shen from May 2010, and it seems that nobody disagree. Okkisafire (talk) 07:54, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Articles to be merged are highly backlogged. As you can see for yourself, there are articles from 2009 also which haven't been merged at CAT:MERGE. If there is no opposition, then you could merge the two articles on your own, or you could request at WP:PMG. See H:M & WP:MERGE for more information on merging. -- Ushau97 talk 09:33, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Done it. I hope that someone willing to check if i did any errors. Okkisafire (talk) 02:51, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Criterium-Tauscher Cronacher Engineers article - feedback query
Hi, I have recently been declined for an incomplete wiki article for Criterium-Tauscher Cronacher. We decided to follow the wiki suggestion of a benign source to help us develop information. I shared the name of the company with two writers through eLance, a place to hire writers. I then awoke to an enfuriated client who got a Google alert about an inaccurate article that is up. It seems that either of the two writers I contacted put it up or the wiki team. If the wiki team put it up, I can't imagine why I would have been declined and not given a chance to put up appropriate and up to date information which this article not posted by me has: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criterium-Tauscher_Cronacher_Engineers. The original page I was told I could edit and we in the middle of communicating with our team only to find it was deleted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criterium-Tauscher_Cronacher_Engineers is the page.

What I would like to know is if a Wiki editor has created this article or the writers I've spoken with. Either way, the information is extremely out of date.

-Kahshanna Evans — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.104.84 (talk) 09:21, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It is somewhat suspicious that Criterium-Tauscher Cronacher Professional Engineers was deleted and that now  Criterium-Tauscher Cronacher Engineers has been produced. It appears that the editor Lkutaj has been involved in both articles, so I would suggest that you ask at User talk:Lkutaj. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:20, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Pure WP:ADMASQ.--ukexpat (talk) 17:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

malala yousafzai
Former British Prime Minister was Tony Blair and Not GORDON BROWN as printed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.133.83.244 (talk) 10:15, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * This is about Malala Yousafzai. The article references and all other references I could find say Gordon Brown. Where did you see Tony Blair? Or are you confused about List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom? Gordon Brown was indeed former prime minister at the time. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:39, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You may be confused because Tony Blair was also a special envoy, but to the Middle East, not for Education. --ColinFine (talk) 11:44, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

My article on Pete Tunstall
Pete Tunstall has requested that I correct a few minor errors in my short article about him. I have clicked the 'edit' button but cannot get to the article proper, just a list of information about Tunstall. Can anyone help me with this please ?

Dave Windle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanner (talk • contribs) 11:09, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Which Edit button are you clicking? If you want to edit the whole article, it should be the Edit tab right at the top, in a row which includes "Article" "Talk" "Read" "Edit" "View history" & the Watch button & Move dropdown. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:33, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You have only made four edits so you don't have some of the mentioned tabs but you do have the "Edit" tab. Note that Wikipedia content should be based on already published reliable sources. You cannot use personal knowledge like things you were told. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:43, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

How should we structure text under images in the infobox (video games)?
Please voice your opinion here. Jørgen88 (talk) 12:09, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Editing location of place in map shown in Wikipedia page
I was looking for details of a place. The details was correct ,the position of the place in the map shown in the page was different. I try to edit that mistake but i can't .Please help me to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashiquekkl (talk • contribs) 12:40, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * What article is this? Ryan Vesey 12:46, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Update to a page titled movie remakes that was deleted
I performed a simple insertion to the article titled movie remakes that was deleted. I asked the deleter some time back and have yet to recv a reply. Iancampbellportsea (talk) 14:28, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Since you left the message on the talk page of an IP editor who only edited on March 3rd and 4th it is possible their IP address was reassigned and they will not see it at that talk page or they may have stopped editing. The provedure in this case is called BRD: Bold (make a change, you did) Revert (they did) Discuss (please leave a message on the article's talk page and see if anyone objects to your change other than that anonymous editor.  If not else objects you can make the change again; if anyone does want to discuss it you can try to reach consensus by using references.)  RJFJR (talk) 14:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Thy Worshiper Duplication
Hi there to all!

I was trying to create the articule about Polish band "Thy Worshiper".

By mistake I've created the user and the articul which are both the same. How to delete the user and leave only articule?

Thank you for your help.

Kind regards Dariusz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thy Worshiper (talk • contribs) 14:48, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

&uArr;Per discussion below taken from the blocking admin's talk page (User_talk:Orangemike): Hello Orangemike, asked on the Help desk for some assistance in sorting out a mess they created in regards to. I'm not an administrator, so I can't see more than the few characters that show in the edit summary which say the page started with an external link. Could you tell me if there was any other content on the page, or was it most obviously without a doubt a spam page? The comments of the user suggest to me that (s)he may be entirely unaware of what they have done and not have the experience required to navigate the help pages to figure it out. If I can help them, I would be willing to do that. Thank you for your time and consideration. Technical 13 (talk) 15:08, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It was shamelessly promotional; appeared to be taken from their MySpace and/or Facebook pages, etc. The author also used an infobox template from the Polish Wikipedia. Ironically, it is possible that this band is notable, if you can find a Polish speaker who does not worship them to do the work. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:22, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Accessing talk page from android phone
I was just on my Android phone, accessing wikipedia. I found some information missing from a page. I wanted to go to the talk page and ask for that information. I could not find any option to access the talk page, because the display was reduced.

Any suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The mobile version of Wikipedia is actively developed, supported and translated. Editing and image uploading are not yet supported. That means you can't edit the talk pages with mobile phones either. If you don't want to use the mobile version, you can find options at the bottom of every page to switch to the desktop version or disable the mobile version permanently on your device. If you choose the desktop version, then you can go to the talk page as usual and add comments. -- Ushau97 talk 17:04, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Moving articles from sandbox to mainspace.
I recently created the article John Knox (British Army officer) in my sandbox after deleting the previous piece of work; a history section for the Dorset article. Previously I have simply cut/copied and pasted bits of work from my sandbox but this time I used the 'move' button. I have used the move button to move articles created in a user space such as User:Ykraps/Thomas Atkinson (Naval Officer) and there has never been a problem but because my sanbox has a 'previous history', it has all been transferred to the article history [|(see here)].

How do I delete (or get deleted) the irrelevant edit history of John Knox (British Army officer) and what is the best way to prevent this happening in the future? Many thanks, --Ykraps (talk) 16:45, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * WP:REVDEL is the way you can get it done. Only admins can delete revisions, so you have to request revdel by sending a message to any administrator in Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests either at their talk page or by email. Even if the revision is deleted, the revision will be struck out in the page history. It won't be removed completely. Other admins can view the deleted revisions, but usually admins don't do this. Also even if it is oversighted, which will be rejected in this case, the revision will be struck out in the history. I am not aware of any other ways of doing this, so there is no way to completely delete them from the page history. The other way I can think of removing the history is by deleting the page. First you will have to USERFY the page in your sandbox at its current revision. Then you could request deletion under U1 criteria. If you leave a message at the talk page stating the reason why you are requesting deletion then it could be done easily. After the page has been deleted, you could create the article back again, by doing a copy-paste move from the previously userfied page.I don't think admins will be willing to delete such a huge amount of revisions, so the best way to remove the history is by deleting the page -- Ushau97 talk 17:40, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

History split would be better. 88.110.246.208 (talk) 18:35, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You can avoid the problem in future by creating a fresh sub-page for each of your drafts. Take a look at my sandbox for an example of one way to do it. Roger (talk) 19:10, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * There's a button to create them for you, in Help:Userspace draft. 88.110.246.208 (talk) 19:51, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I have moved the article back to your userspace at User:Ykraps/JK to sort it out. Please look through the history and tell me the date and time of the first revision that you want to be part of the new article. JohnCD (talk) 19:59, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions. I wasn't expecting anyone to get back to me so quickly so I went to the pub for a few bevies. I have left a message for JohnCD on my talk page. Best regards--Ykraps (talk) 23:12, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Saw this and decided to jump in; the two histories are now separate. In cases like this, where you want edits before a certain time to be in one place and edits after that time to be somewhere else, a history split is never hard.  Nyttend (talk) 04:27, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Nyttend. JohnCD (talk)

Code source highlighting, fix for Haskell stylesheet?
On this page, Hugs, there is a block of code highlighted in green because the single quote character is used twice in the block. In haskell this does not indicate a string literal, so it should not be highlighted like that. How can that be addressed?

Thanks, Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterjoel (talk • contribs) 17:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It's highlighted in green because it is not two single quotes (- '' -) but instead a double quote (- " -). I hope this helps. Technical 13 (talk) 17:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I think Peter means the second bit of green, which is delimited by single quoyes. Rojomoke (talk) 21:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Ahhh... In that case, I recommend discussing it with the point person for the associated extension. Good luck! Technical 13 (talk) 23:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Editing a source page
Hi, I am trying to add my businesses names & website links. I could see where to click to edit but, I can't seem to figure out how to actually add to the list of newspaper names.

Here is a link to the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_States&action=edit&section=43

I did figure out it could be added at the end of the list. But, I am wanting to add our names to the original list of names.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Stephen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surferdude1077 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You don't edit that list directly, you open the "sub-page" for the state, in this case List of newspapers in South Carolina and add the information to the relevant section there. Roger (talk) 19:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

How to use the talk page
I guess I'm a little thick, but I have been trying without success to discuss an edit with the author of a Wikipedia entry. Could you please give me directions that a mildly retarded Wikipedia user can understand? Many thanks.74.196.61.130 (talk) 17:43, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * If you want to discuss Ray Bodiford, you go to Talk:Ray Bodiford and click the "new section" tab at the top of the page. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:49, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You can also click the "View history" tab to see who has edited the article (usually many people), and get "talk" links to their user talk pages. See more at Help:Using talk pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:45, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Extending an RFC
Once an RFC has been open for 30 days and closes the RFC, what are the proper procedures for extending discussions?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:01, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Youtube Video References
How to give youtube video references. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents%27_Worship_Day - needs citations, and we have youtube videos for almost each citation. And these videos are just small clips taken. If we can give those as citations, how, and if not why, video itself proves that they themselves have given statements. Please help in this regard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naveentirthani (talk • contribs) 20:40, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * YouTube clips are often copyright violations. They almost never are properly sourced, and thus fail our requirements of verifiability and reliable sourcing. Additionally, what is or is not being said on some clips is often subject to dispute and interpretation. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  02:34, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, we cant give Youtube videos, then how can we give Video references which are not in sites like amazon/imdb . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naveentirthani (talk • contribs) 06:13, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You can use Template:Cite AV media, that page has instructions on how to use it. Roger (talk) 07:56, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Our Company Deleted?
Hello Wikipedia, We are a bit confused, for it looks like our company is no longer present on your site. We had "Wax Research" up on here at least a few months ago. Within that company, we have a brand called "Sticky Bumps" a surf wax that was up here as well. It shows there was "explicit content" on the Sticky Bumps page, but we cannot view it. Is it possible to get both of these back up on your site? It was a huge opportunity for us, but we are not sure what happened. Thank you so much. Waxresearch (talk) 21:08, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Wax Research has never existed. Sticky Bumps was deleted because it failed to meet the Notability requirement that all articles in Wikipedia must comply with. Roger (talk) 21:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you were thinking of www.corporationwiki.com/California/Carlsbad/wax-research-inc/39956553.aspx but that page is not on Wikipedia. Corporationwiki is not connected to Wikipedia. As Dodger67 points out above, the Stick Bumps article was deleted (last July) because the topic did not meet the relevant standard of encyclopedic Notability. LeadSongDog come howl!  02:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not here to give you opportunities, but to summarise independent writing about notable subjects. Please see WP:CORP and WP:COI. --ColinFine (talk) 10:40, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Recently updated Wikipedia page
Hello,

We recently updated our school's logo on our wikipedia page. (St. Thomas University (Florida)) with the help of one of your users. We did this update on March 9, 2013. However, the old logo that we had in our Wikipedia page is still showing up in search engine results with our Wikipedia page link. The new updated logo is not showing at all. We have tried to ping the url many times but this has not helped. What can we do to update this new logo on the search results? The old logo shown now in the search results links back to our Wiki page, and once in our page the new logo is shown. How can we rectify this? Please help us.

Thanks,

Onl9onl9 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onl9onl9 (talk • contribs) 21:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * You'll probably need to address that to the search engines. While there are steps Wikipedia can take to keep search engines from adding certain pages, there's no mechanism to require them to update them. —C.Fred (talk) 21:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Many search engines get around to updating their cache for pages within 6-12 months. Many of them also offer a way for you to request that the search be updated sooner.  Check the help links on all of the sites you are concerned with, and if there are one or two the present a specific challenge let us know which ones and I would be happy to try and help you find the information you need to get it updated for that specific engine.  This being said, there may be some search engines that disallow forced updating and you will probably just have to wait it out. Technical 13 (talk) 14:51, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Toolserver
Is toolserver down, or is there something wrong on my end?  Frigid Ninja  21:55, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It's down for me, too. The toolserver has been really squirrelly for the past month or so. Deor (talk) 23:33, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Toolserver's been down since 04:00 (UTC) according to User:BryanBot. This happens often (not always) and will likely be resolved in a few hours or so. -- Ushau97 talk 08:21, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

creating a page
hi i would like to create my own wiki as i need to do it for a university assignment. can someone please help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llessur6 (talk • contribs) 23:03, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * See WP:YFA for how to create an article. You should point your instructor to WP:SUP which has guidance for school projects involving Wikipedia.  RudolfRed (talk) 23:13, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * However if you want to create your own wiki, you should ask for advice on the Computing Reference Desk Rojomoke (talk) 04:46, 6 April 2013 (UTC)