Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 August 23

= August 23 =

Meridian Energy page is out of date
Hello,

My name is Karen and I work for Meridian Energy. I’m hoping someone might be able to advise me on getting the Wikipedia page on Meridian Energy (Meridian Energy) reviewed and updated. Some of the current content is out of date and contains incorrect information, for example

- Meridian owns and operates seven hydroelectric power stations, not nine; Ohau A, Ohau B, Ohau C, Benmore, Aviemore, Waitaki and Manapouri. In 2009 Tekapo A and B were sold to Genesis Energy.

- Meridian owns and operates four NZ wind farms, not six; Te Uku, Te Apiti, West Wind and White Hill. Ross Island wind farm is owned and operated by Antarctica NZ. We also own and operate a single turbine in Wellington, Brooklyn turbine and we have another wind farm under construction outside Wellington, Mill Creek.

- Meridian owns and operates one wind farm in Australia, Mt Millar, with a second, Macarthur currently under construction. -Energy for Industry (EfI) and Whisper Tech are no longer subsidiaries of Meridian. Both EfI and Whisper Tech were sold in 2012. What is the best way for the Wikipedia page to be review and edited?

Thank you for your assistance. Karen Goldsworthy
 * Post to the article talk page, providing reliable sources, such as a link to your corporate web site. Thank you for not editing the article yourselves and for respecting the policy against conflict of interest editing.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:40, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Król julian
Hello! Does anyone know what if any language this is ? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 01:28, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * @Anne Delong Google translates it as "The mortals are mine. Mort and Morris, co knows many other people." -- Neil N   talk to me  01:32, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It was detected as Polish using this. -- Neil N   talk to me  01:34, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 01:37, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Since there doesn't seem to be much encyclopedic content, can I nominate it for speedy deletion as an advertisement? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 01:42, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * @Anne Delong I would decline it as a test and speedy it with a . -- Neil N    talk to me  05:22, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 12:53, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Korah Babu Varghese
I'm not sure that this is an appropriate Wikipedia article. Should it be deleted? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 02:14, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I'd userfy it if the user page were not already a version of the same content. While the subject seems non-notable, I don't quite see an appropriate speedy deletion criterion - it's not an article, so A7 doesn't apply, and it doesn't make any grandiose claims, so G11 doesn't apply either. MfD would be an option, but I don't think a draft is worth the effort. Wait half a year, then delete it via G13, I'd say. Huon (talk) 05:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a BLP article without any sources, even though it's not mainspaced shouldn't Template:Prod-blp apply?  Я ehevkor ✉  13:00, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * There's also Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/korah_babu_varghese, User:Korahlucky6/sandbox and User:Korahlucky6.  Я ehevkor ✉  13:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I tried to PROD an Afc article once before and it was turned down as not appropriate for Afc space. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 13:25, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:MFD might be the proper avenue, I'd send the whole lot personally.  Я ehevkor ✉  13:32, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Calculation Error suspected on page Definite integral
I was reading Definite integral and I believe there is an error in a calculation "Notice that we are taking a sum of finitely many function values of f, multiplied with the differences of two subsequent approximation points. We can easily see that the approximation is still too large. Using more steps produces a closer approximation, but will never be exact: replacing the 5 subintervals by twelve as depicted, we will get an approximate value for the area of 0.6203". 0.6203 appears to be incorrect and should read 0.7036. I do not want to change this value and the statement that follows if I am incorrect. How do I address this issue?

1	12	0.288675135	0.083333333	0.024056261 2	12	0.40824829	0.083333333	0.034020691 3	12	0.5	0.083333333	0.041666667 4	12	0.577350269	0.083333333	0.048112522 5	12	0.645497224	0.083333333	0.053791435 6	12	0.707106781	0.083333333	0.058925565 7	12	0.763762616	0.083333333	0.063646885 8	12	0.816496581	0.083333333	0.068041382 9	12	0.866025404	0.083333333	0.072168784 10	12	0.912870929	0.083333333	0.076072577 11	12	0.957427108	0.083333333	0.079785592 12	12	1	0.083333333	0.083333333				0.703621695 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=submit# — Preceding unsigned comment added by RGA82 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The talk page would be a good place to address this issue, but 0.6203 is correct. Note that for the twelve intervals we're taking lower approximations, not upper approximations as we did before. Huon (talk) 05:01, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The 0.6203 was introduced in in July 2007.  The confusion is that as well as increasing the number of intervals from 5 to 12, the new calculation was stated to be taking the "left end height of each piece", rather than the right end height of each piece as used for the 5 interval case. Taking the right end height gives an upper bound, and the left end height a lower bound, and of course the finer the increment the closer the approximation gets to the exact value.  The caption for the drawing still uses the words "5 right samples (above)" and "12 left samples (below)", but unfortunately in a subsequent change the text of the article lost the part about "but with the left end height of each piece".  I have reintroduced this today, but we may want to change the wording further to distinguish between the dependence on the number of intervals & the dependence on whether we take the left or right end height. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Bio on Indian Actor like Harish Patel
The article on Harish Patel - Indian Actor is incomplete. His Birth & pesonal details can easily be obtained.

Special mention is needed for his supporting role in 1987 Documentary 'Tamas' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahee7 (talk • contribs) 05:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Please be bold and add in the missing info. Remember that any changes need to be supported by reliable sources.  RudolfRed (talk) 06:18, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Obvious error that Wikipedia is blocking me from fixing
There's an obvious error on this page:

Ptolemy VI Philometor

The problem is at the end of the second paragraph:

He had at least four children with her; he had at least four children

While we're at it, I would love to work my way up so that I actually have the ability to make basic edits like this. I am logged in, but the filter just grabbed this as seeming like vandalism. I have never vandalized.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarno527 (talk • contribs) 06:46, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the error. No idea why your edit was caught in a filter. -- Neil N   talk to me  06:57, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Special:AbuseLog/9166386 shows your attempted edit added the following string at the start and end of the article:
 * Such things are often caused by browser extensions. I did a Google search on "clearly component" and found . PrimeHunter (talk) 10:23, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Such things are often caused by browser extensions. I did a Google search on "clearly component" and found . PrimeHunter (talk) 10:23, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * (e/c) As best I can make out (this is way outside my wheelhouse), the issue was Skype being on during the edit, coupled with using the visual editor, which resulted in a large swath of code nonsense to be added along with the intended text. From reading the filter and the bug it refers to, I am extrapolating that if you had Skype turned off, or you had used the regular editing method (right now invoked by clicking " " rather than  your edit would not have been blocked. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:38, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, the filter originally was intended for a bug triggered by a Skype extension, but has been reworked to catch additional browser extensions that have similar bugs. This specific case is a bug in Evernote Web Clipper apparently. I filed a bugreport to track this problem. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 11:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Citing
To whom it may concern,

entry: Ancha icon

you are citing my article: I. Karaulashvili, "Abgar legend illustrated : the interrelationship of the narrative cycles and iconography in the Byzantine, Georgian, and Latin traditions" (pp.220-243 ) in Interactions : artistic interchange between the Eastern and Western worlds in the Medieval period, edited by Colum Hourihane. while your citation reads: ^ Hourihane, Colum (2007), Artistic Interchange Between the Eastern and Western Worlds in the Medieval Period, pp. 223-224. Penn State University Press, ISBN 978-0-9768202-4-6

Irma Karaulashvili — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.232.77.49 (talk) 09:41, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I do not understand what you would like to know; is there something wrong with the article you have mentioned? drewmunn talk 09:58, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, so let me see if I understand. The actual part the book used contains, either in whole or part, the text of your article which is "Abgar legend illustrated..." So, you're saying that a proper citation would credit your work, with you as author, and only refer secondarily to "Artistic Interchange Between..." as the book in which your article appears. Is that correct?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:09, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I think that's what the OP means. If the article really is there in full in the book, with Colum Hourihane as overall editor, then the citation should probably follow the structure outlined at Citing_sources for citing individually authored chapters in a book.  That citation was added in 2011 by the article's creator,, who remains an active and productive contributor.  A namecheck here should alert them to this discussion.  With luck, Kober will still have access to the cited text and might be willing to help us ascertain whether the citation wording needs to be adjusted to credit the OP. -  Ka renjc 17:51, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I've updated the ref accordingly. I hope this will resolve the issue. Best, --KoberTalk 18:09, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help with this, Kober. - Ka renjc 07:42, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Perfect result. Cheers all around--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:28, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

big bad beetle borgs
i chatted with Netflix the hole Netflix team & want the real ending of big bad beetle borgs season 2 episode 35 you guys messed up the last episode if your going to make a show put the hole episode — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.139.7.43 (talk) 10:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --ColinFine (talk) 12:07, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Christopher Bullock
Hi there please check a couple of references for the article "Christopher Bullock". I find it hard to alter the incorrect ones Cheers Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.188.73 (talk • contribs) 11:12, 23 August 2013‎ (UTC)


 * I've tidied it up for you in these edits. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Difference between inputting fact, citation needed or cn?
First of all, let me just say great work to all the volunteers here, as I see queries being answered quickly. Among all the ways to seek help here, this seems like the most convenient. Anyway, my question...

Just a minor quibble, I've noticed that the tag produced by typing in 'fact', 'citation needed', or 'cn' give you the same output. Some time back when I started using 'cn' on whatever I came across, a few more experienced editors changed it back to its expanded form 'citation needed'. Any reason for doing this? Do these actually make any difference in the long run? -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:11, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * They make no difference. The other editors may have been using automatic or semi-automatic editors like WP:AWB, these can be set to automatically do minor fixes. Citation needed is probably more informative for new users. than cn, or fact. - X201 (talk) 15:16, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I first thought there was more to it. Thanks. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 18:17, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You have to remember that some of us still use the old wikitext editor, and thus when looking at it we wouldn't see the nice thing but only . For those of us whose brains aren't too good to remember that  is equivalent to, that can be confusing. Also,  could be seen as a template telling someone it is a fact, not that it needs a citation. Hope that makes sense. ~ Charmlet  -talk- 02:22, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Template:Convinfobox
I'm having issues with Template:Convinfobox where certain combinations of units produce incorrect behavior. I've posted exactly what happens at Template talk:Convinfobox, but since that page isn't really watched, I'm drawing attention to it here. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:03, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I think I'd try posting on Template talk:Convert, which I believe is watched by several people (I've always had a very quick response there). Just out of pure idle curiosity, why on earth do you want to use decimal fractions of stones rather than stones and lbs? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:32, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Not by choice. Jackmcbarn (talk) 14:26, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Melanie Castleman
I represent Songwriter Robert Lee Castleman. I noticed in the page for his ex-wife (Melanie Castleman) that there was some discussion to merge her information into his. They were recently divorced. In the Court proceedings, Melanie Castleman admitted that she co-wrote one line in the song "Maybe I should Stay Here" by Alan Jackson and that no other songs were co-written by her. She managed her ex-husband's publishing and added her name, without his concent, to several compositions. That is being taken care of in a copyright litigation. At best, Melanie Castleman should be deleted from Wikipedia and certainly not merged with my client. Thank you// — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.169.52.18 (talk) 21:01, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * In my view Melanie Castleman is not "notable", and the article should be deleted. I tried to tag it for deletion, and got a message apparently telling me that it is already being considered for deletion. Maybe someone more familiar with the deletion process can look into this? Maproom (talk) 22:30, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Articles for deletion/Melanie Castleman borderline, no consensus. You may wish to ask an admin to reverse the decision and delete it. The closing admin doesn't seem active now.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:11, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Or start a new AFD debate, since that one was closed in 2008. From WP:AFDHOWTO, step 1: " If this article has been nominated before, use 2nd or 3rd etc ". -- John of Reading (talk) 08:15, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Douglas Gansler
The bio on Douglas Gansler is an unconfirmed, unbalanced, partisan well concocted left wing post. It sounds to me that Wiki is pushing left wing candidates for office. Wiki is not vetting their bios. Mark Davis MD President of Healthnets Review Services. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.55.134.105 (talk) 22:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * "Wiki" is not pushing anything. But Wikipedia's volunteer editors are occasionally biased. The right place to raise your concerns is on the article's talk page. Maproom (talk) 22:27, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia (which is the name of one of thousands and thousands of wikis) does not "vet" anything at all. The volunteer editors of Wikipedia collectively strive to maintain neutrality, but sometimes bias gets through and remains until somebody corrects it. --ColinFine (talk) 11:04, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

influences/influenced movie directors
hi, I noticed that the "influences/influenced" part has been removed from the infoboxes of the articles about mains movies directors (Spielberg, Kubrick, Scorsese...). I can't find why this decision has been taken. may someone help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orsatelli (talk • contribs) 22:24, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Here you go C T F 8 3 !  00:02, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Adding a photo
Hi guys i just created my first wikipedia article and i was wondering how to change the name for the article and how to add photos to the article? Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarahaziz (talk • contribs) 23:44, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If this is your article, you first need to write it in English. Then you hit "move" at the top and type the new name. You have to upload a pic first, before adding it to an article. C T F 8 3 !  23:59, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I would recommend that a new editor shouldn't try moving the draft directly using the "move" button. It would be safer to submit the draft for review though the Article for creation process by adding at the top of the draft. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:32, 24 August 2013 (UTC)