Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 August 26

= August 26 =

Richard Cebra
Everything below the line "controversy and calls to step down" is situational, inaccurate and not biographical. It is sourced to the bangor daily news but is in fact inaccurately sourced and should be sourced to a partisan hack blog that bears no resemblance to the truth whatsoever and is slanderous. REMOVE ALL CONTENT BELOW THAT LINE PLEASE. R.M. Cebra — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.183.174.78 (talk) 00:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Post to the article talk page, Talk:Richard Cebra, or to WP:BLPN. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Wrong Person Credited
Hi My Name is Barry Peterson I am a Director of Photography in Hollywood and have noticed the CBS reporter ( Barry PetersEn) is linked to the films I have shot. IMDB has my credits list.

Thank You Barry Peterson — Preceding unsigned comment added by BPDOP (talk • contribs) 00:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I've removed the obviously problematic material in Petersen's Wikipedia biography. IMDB is not a reliable source by our standards. Perhaps you could work on restoring those parts of Petersen's Wikipedia biography that were true, but also adding sources? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:20, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I think that (rather than being concerned about the content of Barry Petersen) the OP was saying that he is Barry Peterson, and that he is concerned that links to him go to Barry Petersen. This is because there isn't an article on Barry Peterson, but someone has created a redirect to Barry Petersen.  I have corrected one link which should obviously have gone to Barry Petersen but went to Barry Peterson. - David Biddulph (talk) 05:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * If Peterson (the director of photography) is notable we might be able to replace the redirect with at least a brief biography, but the Redirect should be removed even if we can't replace it with an article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:21, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * A quick look around shows he may be notable. His filmography is published by a variety of well respected sources and at least two news articles about him exist - http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=0d813306-ae9f-4591-8273-337418aecede and http://business.highbeam.com/1081/article-1G1-18631391/mild-heart so it looks like an article would be viable. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:58, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Unnecessary CAPTCHA
I just added a sentence to the Alan Warner article noting his latest award. I had to respond to a CAPTCHA, supposedly because I had added an external link; however, the only link I added was an internal one (to the James Tait Black Memorial Prize). It seems that something is broken with the checking mechanism. 209.179.74.153 (talk) 00:59, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * You should get the CAPTCHA whenever the rendered version of the saved page contains a new external link. This link may be caused by changes in a transcluded template and not changes in your edit. In your case I suspect that caused the link on the ISNI number at the bottom, by pulling the number from wikidata:Q1130840. If a template (or module) is edited then it often takes a long time before all affected pages are updated automatically. If an affected page is edited then it's always updated at that time. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:58, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Kelly Blackwell
my brother was born in Blytheville, Arkansas not Texas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.8.123.24 (talk) 01:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The NFL page says TX. We can't take your word for it that he was born somewhere else.  RudolfRed (talk) 02:42, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * This is tricky. A large number of usually reliable sources say Blytheville, TX, but I cannot find a place called Blytheville in Texas. Blytheville, Arkansas is apparently the only Blytheville. See for example . Maybe all the Texas sources copied the same error. Here is one source saying Blytheville, Arkansas: . Maybe we should just use that and ignore the far larger number of sources saying Texas. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Jacksonville Maritime Heritage Center Jacksonville FL
Hi:

My name is Paul Ghiotto and I'm the director of the Jacksonville (FL) Maritime Heritage Center. I can be reached at the Center during normal business hours, Tues-Sat, 11 AM to 5 PM, at [phone number redacted]. I would log in but I've forgotten my password to my user name.

Here's the problem re: 'Center hours of operation

Although the body of the Wikipedia article about the JMHC correctly lists the hours we are open and closed, the hours are listed incorrectly on the right side of the web page that people click on to get to the Wikipedia article. In other words, when I "Bing" the name "Jacksonville Maritime Heritage Center" the usual list of sites appear on the page. The incorrect hours of operation are seen on the right.

This incorrect listing has been causing problems with our visitors who arrive on Sunday only to discover we are closed and during the rest of the days we are open (Tues-Sat) whose actual hours are incorrectly listed.

How can this be corrected?

Thanks for your help.

Paul Ghiotto JMHC Director — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.145.122 (talk) 02:15, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * We don't have any control over Bing. If the hours are right in the Wikipedia article, there's nothing more we can do.  RudolfRed (talk) 02:35, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * We don't reply by phone. I'm not aware of such a feature in the search engine Bing.
 * Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information.
 * If it is indeed about a Google search then below the box at the right is a "Feedback" link. You can click that and report to Google that the hours are wrong, but we have no inside knowledge of how Google processes such reports. I don't think you can report the correct hours. If enough people report the hours are wrong then Google might just remove them at some time but this is entirely up to Google and not Wikipedia. The hours are not in the part copied from Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:42, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Information about business hours should IMHO not be included in a Wikipedia article as it violates WP:NOTGUIDE and/or WP:PROMO. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:48, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Category:Foo vs. Category:Foo|Bar
On pages like Category:Fictional air force personnel, why do I see entries like

instead of just

?

As far as I can tell. the added "|Air force" doesn't change anything on the page, yet I see this sort of thing a lot. What am I missing? --Guy Macon (talk) 09:32, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Isn't that what's used to determine how it's sorted on the category page? Sorted under A, not F. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:46, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Correct. You'll often see this with biographies as well. For instance . Though you can also use the DEFAULTSORT keyword to help. So, you'll see    and so on. The Default Sort assigns that value to all the categories at once so you don't have to type it out for each one. Dismas |(talk) 09:54, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah. You learn something every day. Could someone comment on these three edits. Is that the right way to do it? --Guy Macon (talk) 10:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I would say that they are all unnecessary since those categories are going to be listed alphabetically according to the name of the category whether it is explicitly stated or not. There's no reason to force it by putting |Jedi when the category is already named Jedi.  Dismas |(talk) 10:14, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * By the way, this is explained in further detail at WP:SORTKEY. Dismas |(talk) 10:19, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! WP:SORTKEY answered all my questions. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:15, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Reflist Template
I have just began a new Wikipedia article, under my name, Davidbena:Yemenite Jewish Customs, but I received a message, saying: "There are tags on this page, but the references will not show without a template (see the help page)." What must I do to alleviate this problem? User:Davidbena |(talk) 09:55, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The words "help page" in the error message are a link to Help:Cite errors/Cite error refs without references. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:00, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * You should have a "References" section near the bottom of the article. For instance, you might have a heading that says ==Early life== or ==Career== Well, you also need one that says ==References== and then under that you place the template  so that your references display there.
 * By the way, when you put the tag in your above question, the page tried to render that as a reference. If you're going to display tags without actually using them, you need to wrap them in nowiki tags like so:   etc.
 * Hope this helps, Dismas |(talk) 10:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

This information was very helpful! Thanks, Dismas! Davidbena (talk) 10:57, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Review of image for copyright eligibility?
I uploaded File:123+Bruegel-Parable+of+the+Blind.jpg as a Fair Use image. It's a Renaissance painting with lines overlaid as an analysis of its composition. File:Pieter Bruegel d. Ä. 025.jpg is obviously in the Public Domain, but I didn't know if the ovelaid lines qualified for copyright or not. If not, I'd like to create a new file with the same lies overlaid, but on a higher-quality version of the painting (the one with the overlaid lines is small and in black & white). Can anyone help? Curly Turkey (gobble) 10:50, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing this up; you can probably get a specific answer over at Media copyright questions!  Dark Toon Link Heyaah! 10:54, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Curly Turkey (gobble) 10:58, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Law in india will help me?
I am from india.I have take money from intrester on per month 9% intrest.i give him intrest per month from last 8 month but now i have no money and he want to kill me.what i can do?law will help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.38.26.174 (talk) 10:55, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  12:29, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * But nowhere on Wikipedia are we allowed to give legal advice. Please consult a legal adviser in your own area. --ColinFine (talk) 13:51, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Remove the link between a name and a page
Hello,

Can you help me ! I want to do ​​an English version of the french page CHOEUR DE L'ARMEE ROUGE : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choeurs_de_l%27Arm%C3%A9e_rouge. So I want to create a page called "THE RED ARMY CHOIR", with the history of the Red Army Choir and I want to distinguish the two ensembles : - Ensemble Alexandrov founded in 1928 under the direction of the Ministry of Defense Russian - Ensemble MVD founded in 1939 under the direction of the Russian Ministry of Interior

However, on the english wikipedia "THE RED ARMY CHOIR" is linked to a page about the Alexandrov Ensemble : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_army_choir

How can I remove the link between the name "RED ARMY CHOIR" and this page about the Alexandrov Ensemble?

Thank you for helping me!

PlayZiK — Preceding unsigned comment added by Playzik (talk • contribs) 13:43, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * What you would need to do is to create a page on MVD Ensemble, and turn the redirect page Red Army Choir into a disambiguation page with links to each of the two articles. Probably each of the two should also have a hatnote pointing to the other. I recommend you concentrate on creating the MVD article first (use the WP:Article wizard), and worry about the disambiguation afterwards. --ColinFine (talk) 13:55, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok Thanks. I create the page MVD Ensemble. Now, How can I redirect my page from the designation " RED ARMY CHOIR " ??

--Playzik (talk) 13:18, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * User:Deb has taken care of everything.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 18:44, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Help finding "Super Mom"
I could not find an article elaborating on Supermom so I am trying to create one. I did a search to find other articles that could link to it, but the search results turn out articles where I cannot find the term. For example: Talk:Feminism/Archive 19.

I am really curious to see this discussion from a couple of years ago. Why can't I find it? Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 14:35, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * If you click on the "[show]" link against "Extended content" near the top of the article, it will expand the collapsed content and show you the text which the search found. - 15:08, 26 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Biddulph (talk • contribs)

Offensive material?
Hi, I think I stumbled onto something offensive.

URL: 2006 in Information Technology

It's under "January 22" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.139.50.143 (talk) 16:14, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Just vandalism, & it's been reverted now. In future there's nothing stopping you from reverting it yourself. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:24, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

University fees

 * Heading added by --ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

i want to know the fee schdual of agriculture universty for mcs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uzma shafique (talk • contribs) 16:38, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * This is the help desk for how to edit Wikipedia. I suggest you search for the webpage of the particular university you are interested in. --ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

restoring the ubercart article because it is notable, commonly used in drupal
according to Tom Geller, ubercart is a drupal module for adding e-commerce to a drupal website. It is fairly popular, however Tom Geller says at lynda.com's transcripts that Ubercart was originally made by Commerce Guys who later removed themselves from the project because of "certain circumstances" and went on to make Drupal Commerce. Given that Drupal Commerce is fairly well-known, as is Ubercart, I was trying to find evidence in Wikipedia of what caused the founders to start over again from scratch. However, the article was deleted for lack of notability. It seems this was in error.

--User:smkatz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.240.74.46 (talk) 17:31, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * We don't restore articles so people can 'look at them' - that would defeat the purpose of deleting them in the first place. I'd suggest that if the topic was notable, it should be possible to find the information you are after elsewhere - and if it can't be found, that may give a clue as to why the article was deleted. AndyTheGrump (talk)


 * And changing the section header won't make any difference, either. The AfD discussion is at Articles for deletion/Ubercart. The article seems to have been deleted for lack of third-party sourcing - the usual prerequisite for evidence of notability. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:06, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Help to check and finish the creation of a new template
Since june, I'm asking some help on the "help desk" but still no answer!!!!

This was my last message from end of june: "I am still trying to create a new template for WikiProject Biology, the page is Template:Subtitle/Taxon. One user help me a lot but still have some problems when trying to edit the subtitles, it does not appear like in the exemple. It's small details for sure just a question of brace or something like that!! If an expert could have a look on it to finish this nice template, please. Thanks in advance for your contribution." Bastaco (talk) 09:24, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

This is for exemple the result I would like to have in the english wiki version: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablabys_taenianotus

And this what I get at the moment when I try the subtitle template in english version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablabys_taenianotus

Thanks for your help, Bastaco (talk) 18:07, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I noticed that the French version of the template transcludes the parent template fr:Modèle:Sous-titre. I am guessing that some of the code in Template:Subtitle/Taxon is there in place of the parent template Template:Subtitle which does not exist on the English Wikipedia. Maybe there is an error in that added code?--ukexpat (talk) 18:57, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

@ Ukexpat: The original french version is fr:Modèle:Sous-titre/Taxon, if it may contribute to help me. Bastaco (talk) 08:30, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Pictures
How do you insert a picture in an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gator5335 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * See VisualEditor/User guide for instructions on how to do this in VisualEditor. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:40, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

How to make it appear on the main page.
I found a very interesting thing about a RMS Titanic survivor, Edgar L. Perry, aged 19 in 1912 who died in the Southampton Blitz in 1940. There's almost no information on him to create an article and in the Southampton Blitz article it's mentioned but it's old so it doesn't qualify for Did you know?. How to make it appear on the main page? Japanesehelper (talk) 20:28, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Eligibility criteria are discussed at Did you know. Hope this helps! DonIago (talk) 20:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted Article
My article Ambivalent Love Addicts was accepted. Then one editor deleted it citing copyright issues. I have tried several times to find out how one editor can make this decision. I own the copyright. I can prove it. How can I get my article back on. Thank you.

Susan Peabody — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.130.241.116 (talk) 22:17, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * See The answer to life, the universe, and everything. Unless the topic has been substantively written about by others, it does not meet Wikipedia's guidelines for notability; even if you were to release the copyright for the material, it wouldn't have a place on Wikipedia. Dru of Id (talk) 22:46, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The article has been created again, and I have tagged it for speedy deletion on the grounds of copyright infringement; in addition, you say on the talk page "I created this term in 2004", and Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. Moreover you have a serious conflict of interest in writing about it yourself. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 22:58, 26 August 2013 (UTC)