Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 August 4

= August 4 =

Correcting article in mainspace commencing "User:"
Hi,

I created a page in my userspace called "User:Scribes52/Draft_George_Thorp_(1777-1797)_page" and on completion tried to move it to mainspace as an article called "George Thorp" but stupidly omitted to select "(Article)" from the prefix drop-list, ending up moving it to an article in mainspace called "User:George Thorp". All of my attempts to use the Move option to correct this are being refused, seemingly because there is no user account called "George Thorp" and even if there were, I don't have access to it. I would very much appreciate it if someone could advise me how to correct my silly mistake. Thanks in advance. Scribes52 (talk) 04:17, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I put it back in your user space. "George Thorp" already exists as an article, so you will have to choose a more complete name (and add it to the disambiguation page).&mdash;Kww(talk) 04:23, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The glitch is that there are multiple articles on people named George Thorp. While the RM template can not be used for this type of move, you can request a technical move at WP:RM. The article has, as indicated, been moved back to User:Scribes52/Draft George Thorp (1777-1797) page, and a suitable title might be George Thorp (naval officer). Apteva (talk) 04:27, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You should be able to move it to that title yourself, being careful to choose (article) in the article space drop down. Apteva (talk) 04:29, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

References not saving??
I was editing an article today miss international (US) and was adding references, but my updates weren't saving. I was using the ref tag in the body of the article. Was I doing something wrong? Thanks. I'm new. (Duh)

Bebedebroadway (talk) 05:19, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * In your three edits to Miss International (United States), I do not see any references. References are added with the . Were you entering and when you clicked show preview or save they were not appearing? Apteva (talk) 06:11, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Were you getting a Spam filter notice? If so, the site you want to use can be requested whitelisted. Apteva (talk) 06:34, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * It would help if the article started by saying what "Miss International" is, instead of describing it as a "system". I know little of such things, but maybe it's a beauty contest for young women? Maproom (talk) 07:33, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. Added a link. Apteva (talk) 07:50, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

change of name
The name Chaudhry Altaf Hussein is being spelled as Chaudhry Altaf Hussein kanjar by wikipedia in their article I would like you to replace it with Chaudhry Altaf Hussein not kanjar because it is an offensive term in my language looking forward to your positive reply — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.109.62.33 (talk) 10:54, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * What article are you referring to? The article Chaudhry Altaf Hussain does not use the word "kanjar". Maproom (talk) 11:31, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * My apologies. I see that the word "kanjar" was in the article Chaudhry Altaf Hussain, in the info box. As it was not in either of the sources cited, I have deleted it from the article. Maproom (talk) 11:38, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

BinfordCarlo/InspectRealEstate
I have just submitted an article for posting.

The title should be "InspectRealEstate" but I think the title is "BinfordCarlo/Sandbox". How do I check the title of the page and if the title is "BinfordCarlo/sandbox" (or something similar), how do I change it to InspectRealEstate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BinfordCarlo (talk • contribs) 13:02, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I suggest that before you proceed further, you read the Notability guidelines. The subject of your article is highly unlikely to be considered notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:17, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

User name problems
I have an old account here and my user name was SensualAsian and I don't know if it's under my old email address and I have a new one now and I have tried to make a NEW account under a new email address with my REAL name and MIDDLE name and none of it the site will allow me to use it even though it's MY NAME my REAL NAMES and IT'S MINE! How can I create an account if I can't Use my REAL NAME and ALIAS that was under my old account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.254.40.208 (talk) 13:56, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * There is no account registered under the username SensualAsian. So it's possible that you were not able to register an account the last time also. Could you please be more specific? For example, please tell us the error you are receiving, if any. -- Glaisher  [talk]  15:50, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

I have an old account and the user name Sirromhc that I want to change to my real name. But I can find nothing on the multitude of explanatory pages that allows me to do this as I wish to publish in my real nameSirromhc (talk) 16:39, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If I understand you correctly, you want to change your username to your real name; you can file a request at Changing username. Before you do, make sure you are aware of (and comfortable with) the potential implications associated with using a real name.&#32;~HueSatLum 16:47, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Getting back to my draft in order to edit it
How do I get back to my draft in order to edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Napkin invoice (talk • contribs) 14:49, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * You haven't edited nor created any drafts from this account. Is it possible you were logged out or on a different account when you created the draft? What's the name of the draft? ~ Charmlet -talk- 15:26, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Cheating / Fraud by Chinese Companies.
Dear Sirs / Madam, Good day !! We were cheated by a Chinese Company by name << Redacted >> to the tune of US $ 62,340/- ( US Dollars Sixty Two Thousand Three Hundred Forty only). Instead of A4 Copy Papers ,06 containers ordered by us, they shipped sand & mud bags.

We tried to contact party but all our efforts to contact them have failed. We now want to lodge our complaint with concerned Minister of Chinese Government. Many other business companies have also been cheated by such dubious Chinese Companies for various trades. Kindly help us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shubhvats (talk • contribs) 15:52, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.


 * Please note that I have removed the name of the company, as this is not an appropriate place to make such allegations. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:57, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Article tagging
I have recently become interested in tagging articles for cleanup, lacking references, etc. However, it is very much work finding the adequate template and adding it to the articles one by one. I have not dared to tag pages for deletion after seeing how much work it is to do that.

Is there some kind of tool or program that I can use to make it easier and faster? Kebabipita (talk) 16:51, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * @Kebabipita, Twinkle is very easy to use. Take a look at WP:TC. Also please see WP:RESPTAG & WP:TAGGING. -- Glaisher  [talk]  17:22, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :) Kebabipita (talk) 17:26, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Tagging is very important and valued at wikipedia and we can always use some good volunteers for that but also consider actually improving each individual article, more tedious and time consuming but at the end of the day we are a collection of articles, not tags.:-)  Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way   19:15, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

anketell moutray read page
please help me delete error messages. many thanks Michael Moutray Read — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moutrayread (talk • contribs) 16:57, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I see that User:Frze has already fixed this. --ColinFine (talk) 18:28, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Name change
I would like to change my user name to my real name. Scott Killeen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottkilleen (talk • contribs) 18:24, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi, please always remember to "sign" your posts with ~ so we may be able to see the user asking and their user page/talk page, a small but important point. Changing username is where you can complete this but be advised of the inherit risks of using your real name.  Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way  19:11, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Orphan articles
Hope I'm not making too much fuss for you, but I'm a real noob and I want to learn more.

I see that people tag articles as orphans (no articles link to them). How can they see that? Surely they can't go through all pages on WP to look for links... Kebabipita (talk) 19:11, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * They look at Category:Orphaned articles. It's a hidden category, so unless you have hidden categories set to show by way of your preferences, you'd never see the category at the bottom of the articles.  Dismas |(talk) 19:16, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Also from the article itself, left toolbar > Toolbox > What links here. Please see my advice above prior to embarking on a tagging mission.  Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way   19:18, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you. @Marketdiamond, could you please take a look at my edits up to now? Are they good? I'm just a little nervous that I'm doing things wrong. Kebabipita (talk) 19:44, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I looked them over, I am no expert or even well versed in the whole combined tagging thing, as I stated a few posts up for you my personal philosophy is that Wikipedia is a collection of articles not tags, though I recognize that tagging is both important and needed I'd rather "adopt" an article and work away at making it tons better over a week or month. So they look acceptable but I am probably not the editor that would know best, I do appreciate your gusto though and happy editing!  Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way   21:20, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The category is maintained behind the scenes by software, as Dismas implies. Is the tagging of articles from the behind-the-scenes category done by editors, or is it also done behind the scenes by a bot?  It is the sort of task that is readily automated.   Robert McClenon (talk) 19:55, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * , the category page says: Note that the bot Addbot started tagging orphans in February 2009, which accounts for the large number of orphans tagged that month. As of January 2013 Addbot resumed untagging pages that were no longer orphaned so this category is up to date. (emphasis mine) Dismas |(talk) 23:38, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify: When a bot or an AWB user adds an Orphan tag, this is because the software has queried the "what links here" information, not the category. The listing in the category is a side-effect of adding the tag. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:53, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Tunbridge Wells
I am looking for information on the topography of Tunbridge Wells in 18th century.How do I find this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.150.25 (talk) 19:19, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I could not locate anything pre-1846 with a quick internet search, I suspect Wikipedia would not be the best resource for answering this query but that a local library or possibly university library elsewhere may have some resources that would. Also please remember to always "sign" the end of any post with ~, a small but important point.  Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way   21:25, 4 August 2013 (UTC)