Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 August 5

= August 5 =

Australian National Botanic Gardens opening hours
Hello,

I am writing on behalf of the Australian National Botanic Gardens about an error listed on our information that appears to the right on the google search page that links to the Wikipedia page. The information states that we are closed on Saturdays and Sundays, but in fact we are open from 8.30am - 5.00 pm every day except Christmas day.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.7.63.177 (talk) 05:06, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * As far as I can see, there is nothing about opening hours on the Wikipedia article. So it's possible that the data was from another source. Wikipedia does not have any control over what appears at Google's Knowledge Graph. -- Glaisher  [talk]  05:27, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * this is the sort of information which is best on your own web site.  DGG ( talk ) 17:37, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Google can be made aware of errors on the [//www.google.com/search?q= Australian National Botanic Gardens] Google search page by clicking on "Feedback / More info" at the bottom of the information box and then clicking "Wrong?" for the piece of information that is wrong.--Melburnian (talk) 10:03, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Removal of external references
I posted external links to image galleries that are on topic on several entries, from AMARG to the SS United States. I noticed recently that all of these links were removed. They were not spam, and I have noticed dozens of other articles with links to external references of other websites with image galleries. This is very frustrating and it feels that the ones I am posting are being unfairly singled out. I have read the guide on posting external links but I am not sure why some image galleries relating to subjects are deemed OK while others are not, when the content and style of delivery are very similar.

Is there someone who can explain to me why the ones I have put up are singled out for removal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abandoned america (talk • contribs) 06:44, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Examples of a recent entry I posted, with two other similar entries: Scranton Lace Company
 * Example of a page where an entry was removed: AMARG
 * Example of a page with other similar links: Glenn Dale Hospital


 * At Scranton Lace Company you have added a link to two small images with no explanatory text. This is well below the standard I would expect for an external link. The other two external links from that article have far more interesting and relevant content. Maproom (talk) 13:00, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

After school page Neo Ttaemun-e Name change to fit?
Hello,

I am in the process of cleaning up a music groups pages to make them easier to locate for fans. There is one page Neo Ttaemun-ethat has an automatic filter, and it wont let me change the title to the english name of the song "Because of You (After School Song)" So i can make the page match the other after school pages. Please I dont understand why this filter was put, it was like someone wanted to make it impossible to fix this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clowcardruler (talk • contribs) 06:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't understand what problem you were having, as it moved straight away for me - it is now at Because of You (After School song) note lower case s in song. Arjayay (talk) 07:46, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I am now trying to clear up the links after the move and note that in different places this is called a single, and EP and an album - can you please make this consistent? - Arjayay (talk) 07:56, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * There are behind-the-scenes checks in place to stop new-ish accounts moving too many pages too quickly. According to this log, that's why you couldn't move the page. You did well to post here. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:14, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Item with no article on a disambiguation page
Dear editors: Because I accepted an article about a person named Jeff Ellis at the Afc, I then had to create a disambiguation page, Jeff Ellis (disambiguation). Another editor has added an item to the page Jeff Ellis (disambiguation), referencing the name of a musician, Donald Hazelwood. There was a rather promotional half=sentence about this bowmaker in the article, referenced to his own web site. Huon removed both the sentence and the item on the disambiguation page. The same user has reverted the disambiguation edit, apparently because policy says that if another article has a redlink, then the disambiguation page can have one too. Now there is another redlink, just created, at Richard Tognetti, which also has a sentence referenced by the bowmaker's own web site. I haven't done much work with disambiguation pages, but this all seems promotional to me. Before removing both items, as Huon did, I would like some input from someone who understands disambiguation rules. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 08:30, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅Don't worry about the Disambig rules, those are all trumped by WP:NOTADVERTISING. It was promotional material, including an unreliable reference that pointed to the manufacturer's own website. Have removed them. - X201 (talk) 08:43, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I see that Donald Hazelwood article has only three references – the first one doesn't mention him (though it mentions a quartet of the same name), and the other two don't exist. Maybe someone less busy than me can look into this? Maproom (talk) 13:07, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I fixed the dead links. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:32, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Albert Kitson
Hi Editors, Please alter the 4th reference for the article - Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale. The reference is from the London Gazette - Supplement (dated September 27th, 1911), page 7117, but it is   the "Supplement for the Coronation of George V - a list of Peers of the Realm who paid Homage to the Sovereign at Westminster Abbey on June 22nd, 1911" I was wrong thinking that the reference was relating to the Investiture of the Prince of Wales.

Also, please get rid of the "needs additional citations etc " bit at the top of the article. I think it is a good article isn't it? Cheers and thanks Ted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.153.199 (talk) 10:06, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've removed the tag, though the second paragraph isn't explicitly sourced yet. For reference 4, I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. If you click "Edit source" at the top of the article, you will see that the reference is defined by a call to cite web with fields title, url, and so on. Try updating these to describe the new source. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:24, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've removed the tag, though the second paragraph isn't explicitly sourced yet. For reference 4, I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. If you click "Edit source" at the top of the article, you will see that the reference is defined by a call to cite web with fields title, url, and so on. Try updating these to describe the new source. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:24, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

virtual librarians
First thanks for the work you do. How does one become a virtual librarian with Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 54.228.68.47 (talk) 10:33, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The short answer is "by clicking one of the 'Edit' links and saving an edit" - getting started is as easy as that. But for a longer answer I recommend "Introduction" -- John of Reading (talk) 10:42, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Main Page says "virtual librarians" about volunteers who answer questions at Reference desk. If that's what you have in mind then see also Reference desk/Guidelines. There is no application process. Just click the "[edit source]" link to the right of a question heading to add an answer. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:19, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Telugu
Plese insert in wikkipedia Indian Langwage Telugu directly thanking — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.83.46.11 (talk) 13:36, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Try our article on Telugu or the Telugu language Wikipedia at http://te.wikipedia.org. Gandalf61 (talk) 13:43, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * If you refer to language links at Main Page then see Template:Wikipedia languages. There is an unanswered post at Template talk:Wikipedia languages, apparently referring to Template talk:Wikipedia languages/Archive 5. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Number of new articles created
Is there a way to see the number of new articles I created and which ones they are?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:51, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Is [ this] what you were looking for?&#32;~HueSatLum 14:00, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The bottom of your contributions page has an "Articles created" link. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * At the foot of Special:Contributions/Doug Coldwell is a link labelled "Articles created", which goes to this list. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:04, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, thanks. Just what I was looking for. Didn't realize it was at the bottom of my contributions.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:09, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

New Article
I had posted on 7/31 regarding a new article on Longmont Public Library. Is it ok now? Thanks. Bkundanis (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:34, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The former discussion is at Help desk/Archives/2013 July 31. Unfortunately noone noticed that Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Longmont Public Library was missing a submission template at the top. I have added the template so you can submit it for review with the green button, but I suggest you first look at Notability (organizations and companies) and try to find more sources. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:58, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Company Information Outdated
Hello!

I am working on making major revisions to my company's Wiki Page which is currently extremely out of date. How can I go about making big revisions to our wiki quickly?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babibonkerz (talk • contribs) 15:13, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * First, read WP:COI, then use the article's talk page to suggest changes to the article -- you are strongly discourage from making changes to the article yourself. And please remember it is not your company's "wiki page", it is a Wikipedia article about your company.--ukexpat (talk) 15:17, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Make sure the changes have independent reliable sources. For some information your company's web site might be good enough.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:30, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Permanent Deletion
Is there anyway to have some context on a profile permanently deleted as it is inaccurate but as I delete it keeps getting put back on. Can I pay to block such material? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derek.smith2 (talk • contribs) 15:27, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you mean a user profile or a biography article about a person? - X201 (talk) 15:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming Derek wants material deleted from Mike Bronzoulis. -- Neil N   talk to me  16:07, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Let us answer the question - No, there is no way you can pay to control information in Wikipedia. Assuming you are referring to the conviction of Mike Bronzoulis, this seems well sourced, so why are you describing it as "inaccurate"? - Arjayay (talk) 16:41, 5 August 2013 (UTC).

Removing from top of page
Hey there! I was trying to remove/edit from the top of my page and I am unable to. Could you give me a heads up on how to do this?

Thanks LtdMcw (talk) 15:29, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * An IP user seems to have removed it in, but it is not clear why you wanted to remove it. That template reminds you and everyone else that it is a user sandbox, and gives you the link to click when you wish to submit it for review to turn it into a real Wikipedia article.

Cite Error
Hello. I am writing an article and trying to add citations. The following error is coming up when I save: "Cite error: The opening . Currently, you have but no . Howicus (talk) 17:17, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedias "iron law": 2 s good, 1 bad. :-)  Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way  17:20, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Why
Hi

On your page sex shop about 3/4 down the page it says online retailers. It mentions a few web sites and a very popular English one. I thought I would add ours and link it to our page on your site as it tells people about us. As I have read you can do so as everyone else has. So I created an account done everything properly this time as I bothered reading your guidelines. My account now does not exist? and I had a warning I cant do what other people have done? Why is this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.8.0.163 (talk) 17:20, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, those examples were not added by the owners of those websites, but by uninvolved editors. Also, your shop does not have a Wikipedia article, correct?  It should only go on that page if it has its own article, and probably not even then. Howicus (talk) 17:28, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick response. No our shop does not have a Wikipedia article and as far as I can see nor has the other company. Their company name links to them to their info what does it matter if I want to put our name in and link it to our page? it was on your site telling people about ourselves. Thought that was the idea (giving people information). So I take it our account has been deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.8.0.163 (talk) 17:55, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, Wikipedia has all kinds of policies regarding what can have a Wikipedia article. Every Wikipedia article needs significant coverage in independent, reliable sources.  I'm not sure about your account, I do know that user accounts are never deleted from Wikipedia.  What was your username? Howicus (talk) 18:00, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

OK we will get coverage in reliable sources and see what happens in the future. Oh sorry account still exists. Bad typing on my behalf. Thanks. Peace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.8.0.163 (talk) 18:19, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Pleaee read WP:LINKSPAM. Wikipedia is not here to promote your online business, and it is  not a collection of links. The argument that other links exist cannot be used to justify the addition of new ones that breach policy on promotion. -  Ka renjc 08:23, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

User name
Hi! I have a global account (this is my user page on it.wikipedia. My global name is Yiyi, but on en.wikipedia there is an user with this nikname (User:Yiyi), with only 3 contributions dated ugust 2005. So, I created another user on en.wikipedia (User:Bustocco). Could I change name from Bustocco to Yiyi? If yes, how? Thanks. Sorry if I'm unlogged. -- 95.244.160.149 (talk) 18:27, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * See WP:USURP.--ukexpat (talk) 18:42, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Transfer my account
Hello, can someone transfer my account User:Peter Braun74 to User:PeterBraun74 ? -Peter Braun74 (talk) 18:52, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * See Change username. Dismas |(talk) 18:54, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

How To Update the picture on our page
I am trying to change the Seventeen MagazineSeventeen (magazine) picture to a more recent cover of the magazine. I tried to upload a file by going to the toolbox and following the rules under "upload file" but it still won't let me. How do I change the picture? Mlbrown211 (talk) 19:40, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * You can make a request for it to be uploaded at WP:FFU.--ukexpat (talk) 20:45, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * What is meant by "our page"? Do you work for Seventeen? -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  21:23, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Sandbox help
I authored the article in the English Wikipedia on KARL LENNERT. Upon publication, it was redirected from my sandbox. Now, I can't empty my sandbox without the article also disappearing from Wikipedia. Can you help me with this problem, please? Thanks, mrwick1 --Mrwick1 (talk) 20:50, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Your only sandbox is User:Mrwick1/Sandbox1 which doesn't redirect anywhere. Which other sandbox are you trying to edit?--ukexpat (talk) 20:51, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Presumably User:Mrwick1/sandbox? I've cleared the redirect for you, & just changed it to a link which you can delete as you wish. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:19, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Weird. I wonder why didn't that show up when I first searched for Mrwick1's user subpages? Even weirder, it does now...--ukexpat (talk) 01:30, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

What is a U. S. Marine Brigade by Sam Savage
I was a united states marine form 1957 to 1960. I was looking for some information about one of the units I was in and didn't make much head way. I assume that was because no one has taken the time to give you this information. The subject matter I was looking for was about the number of pilots in a U. S. Marine Air Group. I looked at several pages of Wikipedia information and did not get the answer to my question. I also found that the information on the the Marine units I was looking at was pretty skimpy. The first question I asked was what was the First Marine Brigade, your answer was something like "a Brigade is a Military unit made up of two or more smaller units". The correct answer is; The First Marine Brigade of the 1950s and '60s was a Marine Air Group (in this case MAG 13) which was made up of some fixed wing ground attack and some rotory wing transport air craft combined with a reinforced infantry regiment (The Fourth Marine Regiment in this case.) The reinforcement consisted of an Ontos battalion (see below), an amtrak (Landing Vehicle Track) company, a force recon company and some even smaller attached units. The Ontos was a light tracked vehicle with six 106MM recoiless rifles mounted on a small turret on top of it. It was originally designed as a semi high rate of fire anti-tank weapon but was soon found to be an efficient anti-bunker and with white-phosphorus rounds a terrable anti perssonel weapon. I was a squad leader in the 106MM recoiless rifle platoon,first battalion, 4th Marines. I had one 106 R/R mounted on a jeep. The amtrak was an lightly armored amphibious tracked vehicle used basiclly by the Marine Corps to transport troops from LSTs and troop transports to the shore when assaultting a beech. Having tracks it could take the troops up to the tree line and/or dunes before unloading them, giving them a better chance at survival than a landing craft. their biggest draw-back was their slow rate of travel in water and on land. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.214.101.222 (talk) 22:36, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Does Marine Aircraft Group 13 help? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:53, 6 August 2013 (UTC)