Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 August 6

= August 6 =

Boulder City High School
I'm stuck!! I tried to create a wiki page with pictures and such but nothing is working. How does the site get posted? How do I find all the pictures(gallery) I uploaded? Can someone please take what I wrote and post it? I'll send you the pictures. Please complete this page: Boulder City High School, Boulder City, NV Edharris20 (talk) 00:25, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I've moved the content from your sandbox to the above mentioned title, and will tidy it up per our WP:Manual of Style. Mysterious Whisper 00:42, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah. You didn't upload any images to Wikipedia, but you uploaded quite a few to Wikimedia Commons, and can review them all here. Mysterious Whisper 01:56, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * And... It looks like all of the pictures you uploaded have been deleted from Commons because of Copyright violations. Wikimedia Commons only accepts images that are explicitly freely licensed, or that are in the public domain in at least the United States and in the source country of the work. See Licensing. Mysterious Whisper 13:14, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

NOR/CITE/MOS in the context of external links - suggestions of best page to post this question at?
In the external links section of an article, we list select useful external links, and often we annotate, classify or explain what they link to, for the reader. This can be anything from a bare link to a somewhat informal description of the resource linked to (if it would help, especially on technical subjects).

None of our policies or guidelines seem to say much about this annotation in the context of external links. In a case that has my attention, some description of an external link was removed. The link itself is fine. The comment was informal, so a reader could know what sort of level and coverage the link was pitched at (in a highly technical subject). The removal was essentially stated to be because that information was an editor's personal description of linked resource, rather than (say) a cite from a reliable source. The only direct guidance seems to be WP:MOSACCESS: a "good" link description matters "especially for ELs". Other pages seem silent.

I'd like to get this area a bit clarified (minor clarification) in MOS or policies/guidelines. But what's the best discussion place -- WT:EL? WT:CITE/WT:NOR? WP:MOSLINK (MOS/links)? WP:MOSACCESS (MOS accessibility)? Links/cite/OR/MOS noticeboards?

So I'm asking for a bit of input here, about which venue might be most appropriate for good discussion on this question. FT2 (Talk 00:51, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I think a post at the policy section of village pump, with a referential link at WT:EL (i.e., would work well. On the substance of the underlying issue, there's just a tidbit of instruction at External links. Maybe you should talk about renaming, clarifying and expanding that section? I note that the two examples given there of good link names are very poor and uninformative. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:06, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Wrong Information provided by editor
Elite Model Look International 2009

The Hong Kong representative is wrongly edited few times as "Emma Cheng". It should be "Joe Au "

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.246.115.133 (talk) 09:56, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

How to make an article?
Hi, Support!

I want to make an article for my band! I want to put info for them and keep fans updated! I really like the informations that I get on Wikipedia for my favorite bands, so I want to do with my own band now!

Best Regards Mile — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kekelkoto (talk • contribs) 13:16, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello Best. Wikipedia does not need to have articles about all bands, but only about bands that have been covered in detail in independent reliable sources like newspapers, magazines, or respectable music websites. You can read WP:VRS for more information on the sort of sources you would need to write an article. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:31, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * ... and Notability (music) for the criteria for notability for bands. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:35, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You might also want to read this harsh but bluntly honest humorous essay on band articles, especially ones written by the band. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  14:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Email erasure
When I was at WP:REFUND asking for a copy of a deleted article (Bioscale), I stupidly supplied an email address. Now the search engines have got a hold of it. Is there any way to at least permanently remove it from Wikipedia's archives? 70.79.73.253 (talk) 13:44, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * As a starting point I've redacted your address from the current version of WP:REFUND. For any more permanent removal you would need Oversight, but you would need to convince an oversighter of the need for that. In either case it's up to the search engine as to how quickly it would catch up with the removal from Wikipedia, so the oversight might not be of any significant advantage. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:05, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. 70.79.73.253 (talk) 15:15, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Template question
I don't have a lot of experience with templates, but I thought I could modify a tempate to add a couple columns. I didn't dare modify the existing, so I created a new template with the two new columns.

I'm missing something fundamental, because the the template is here:

CBB yearly record start with polls

but when I try to use it in my sandbox: User:Sphilbrick/sandbox it tells me the template doesn't exist.

What am I missing?-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  13:55, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Because CBB Yearly Record Start with polls is not the same as CBB yearly record start with polls. Check you case. --  Gadget850talk 13:59, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Argggh. I made a mistake with "poll" versus "polls" so concentrated on the wrong thing. Thanks.-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  14:05, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

difficulty posting to Deletion Review
I tried to post a lengthy request containing wiki markup (it originally had a table, but I tried to simplify it), and the template did not work: WP:Deletion_review/Log/2013_August_5.

The bot removed my request from the list of active discussions: ; I manually re-added it, but the bot soon removed it again.

I posted on Wikipedia talk:Deletion review but there has been no answer. — rybec   14:47, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * You were missing pipes before template parameters. I fixed that in but I don't work at DrV and don't plan to do anything else regarding the matter. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:13, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for fixing it! — rybec   15:55, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Link to open in a newly spawned tab or window?
Using wikimarkup, how does one format an external (or internal) link so that when the hypertext is clicked on, the link opens in a newly spawned tab or window, please?

(Similar to the  HTML formatting) --92.26.115.243 (talk) 14:49, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * This is not possible in wikimarkup. See Help:Link. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:05, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your prompt and precise answer, Jens.
 * What a pity! --92.26.115.243 (talk) 15:35, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * It may be dependent on which browser you use but for yourself (rather than for everyone who clicks the link) you may be able to get the effect by holding down CRTL/Shift while clicking on the link. (On my browser ctrl by itself cause it to open in a new window but not make that the current window.) RJFJR (talk) 15:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

--  Gadget850talk 16:03, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

unable to remove irrelevant superman statement through editor
On the page titled Total Internal Reflection, the first sentence is about Superman hugging Mark Zuckerberg. I was unable to see the sentence for removal in either editing option. I'm not sure if it is through the actual code which renders the page, or something else — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.237.28.61 (talk) 15:49, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It's already been fixed. It may be that when viewing it you saw a cached version but when you went to edit it you saw the latest version where it was already fixed.  Thank you for trying to fix it. (If you still see the message you may need to clear your browser's cache; my previous comments were about Wikipedia's server caches.) RJFJR (talk) 15:54, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The page history shows it had already been removed in the page source. I also saw it in the rendered page. I have purged the page to fix it. This is sometimes necessary to reflect the latest changes. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:56, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Tracking changes
Not a newbie question! Telangana is linked to by well over 500 articles, excluding transclusions, non-article space etc. There has recently been an announcement of a proposal for this region of India to become a state, mainly carved out from Andhra Pradesh. It hasn't happened, it won't happen for at least a few months and it may not happen at all. However, the Telangana separatist movement has been vociferous for decades now and it is reflected on Wikipedia - we are already seeing people trying to change geographic articles (which form the bulk of the links) so that they show Telangana as the state rather than Andhra. I've just asked for pending changes to be applied on Warangal, which is one of the affected articles, but applying them to over 500 is going to be problematic. Equally, trawling through that number of links every few days will be a nightmare but given the strength of feeling for the movement, there may be a need to do so.

So, to the question. Is there any mechanism for monitoring recent changes or whatever for changes of Andhra Pradesh to Telangana ? If we can catch the links being changed and review the reason, then that should keep a reasonable check on things even though the odd one might slip through the net. This query might be better asked at WP:VPT but that place can be a bit of a hothouse and I don't want to risk getting my head chewed off unless I have to. - Sitush (talk) 17:04, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I can think of two possible ways, neither are really perfect. The first would be to use the related changes linked to option, and review changes to every page with a link to the new target. The other, would be to request an edit filter to track the change without action, and you could then review the list of filter hits. Wouldn't surprise me if there is a better way, but that is all I can think of. Monty  845  17:09, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Hm. I've never even seen a filter results page and have no idea what the potential may be for that. I did take a look at your link and, as you say, it is not perfect. It is, however, a lot better than clicking through 500+ histories! Thanks for the suggestions. - Sitush (talk) 18:02, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If you want to explore the edit filter possibilities start at Edit filter. I'm not sure it would get approved, but I believe it would be technically feasible to do. Monty  845  20:15, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

How do I remove "This biographical article needs additional citations for verification." banner?
I've located the area that needed additional citations and removed the sentence, how do I go about getting rid of the "This biographical article needs additional citations for verification." banner atop the biographical page?

Thanks in advanced! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bchan33 (talk • contribs) 19:56, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Solved. nevermind — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bchan33 (talk • contribs) 20:03, 6 August 2013 (UTC)