Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 December 14

= December 14 =

Photo deleted
Dear Wikipedia,

User Noah Levinson uploaded a photo of Nutritionist Alan Berg that Noah took of Mr. Berg, to add to an unpublished article on Mr. Berg. Wikipedia deleted the picture on November 22nd because it was 'unlikely to be own work; small resolutions, missing EXIF.' Why was the work suspected to be someone elses? How can Noah successfully upload this image?

- Lily — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lily.olson23 (talk • contribs) 07:02, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * This has been replied to at WP:Teahouse/Questions. Please do not post queries in more than one place. --ColinFine (talk) 09:38, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Could someone please upload an image for me?
Despite having spent far too many hours on this site I still find the process of uploading images absolutely torturous. I want to add this image to the article Occupy Love, but haven't the first clue what goes in any of the boxes with the little red stars. Could someone do it for me? Thanks. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 08:03, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello Arms & Hearts. I'm afraid the answer is almost certainly no. In the absence of any information to the contrary, we have to assume that the image is copyright, and so it cannot be used unless the owner of the copyright explicitly releases it under a suitable licence (see Donating copyright materials), or unless its use meets all the criteria in Non free content criteria. --ColinFine (talk) 09:42, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Why would the answer be no, ColinFine? It's a movie poster and we have hundreds (thousands?) of movie posters in articles about movies.
 * Arms & Hearts, go to another film's article such as Captain Phillips and click on the image. A direct link to the image is here.  Look at how it is licensed and basically just use it as a template for what you need to upload the Occupy Love poster.  Dismas |(talk) 10:16, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Apologies: I didn't look at the article, so I didn't realise it was actually a movie poster. I saw the poster and the name of the director, and thought it was a spoof of a poster, so I thought it unlikely that there would be a Wikipedia article that it was appropriate for under the NFCC. --ColinFine (talk) 11:45, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Here you go: File:Occupy Love Poster.jpg Skarz (talk) 20:06, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * (remove the : for it to display, as a copyright image, we cannot display it here WP:FAIR. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  20:12, 14 December 2013 (UTC))
 * @Arms &amp; Hearts, for future reference these requests can be made at WP:FFU.  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 20:58, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That page just tells me to go to WP:Upload and suggests I ask here if I need help, which I did. Anyway, thanks everybody, I'll try to remember Dismas's advice in future. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 23:49, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * No, it redirects to WP:Files for upload where you can make an upload request.--ukexpat (talk) 16:25, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Embedded category
I Feed You My Love currently has an embedded category Singlechart usages for Finnishdownload, whose source I can't locate. Could someone look into this? Brandmeistertalk  11:21, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a side-effect of the Singlechart template when used with the parameter "Finnishdownload". The category shouldn't have been showing as a red link, though, so I have created it and marked it as a hidden category. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:41, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Please Add
Wikipedia please add my seminary to your page please you have the right and my permission as the Dean and Vice President of East Texas Theological Seminary. www.easttexasts.org ~ Dr. Maurice F. McMillion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2C9E:7070:3428:736A:BFEB:8C1 (talk) 19:09, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikepedia neither asks for permission to create articles, nor creates them on request. If there was evidence that the East Texas Theological Seminary met the relevant notability criteria it would be open to someone (prefereably uninvolved, see WP:COI) to create an article - but frankly I see little evidence that the seminary meets the said criteria. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:55, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

404
its just coming up with this  I can't find the page you asked for. You might have made a mistake when typing, or perhaps the page you wanted isn't there any more. Ask your teacher for help if you don't know what to do
 * Hi, you appear to be talking about an outside website. This is the help desk for asking questions about Wikipedia. It appears, though, that you may have gotten a 404 error. What site were you trying to access, and did you get to it through a link on Wikipedia? If you did, it would be helpful to know what article you were reading here so that we can remove the link or mark it as dead. - Purplewowies (talk) 02:30, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

[sic] in citations?
If there's a typo in the title of a news article cited on Wikipedia, should there be a sic to indicate the source made the mistake? -- Zanimum (talk) 20:45, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't normally use [sic] if the typo is only displayed in a reference and doesn't change the meaning. See WP:SIC for a guideline which doesn't mention citations. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:43, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong), the one thing that should not be done, is to correct the mistake. Although MOS:QUOTE states "trivial spelling and typographic errors should simply be corrected without comment", this refers to quotations, not citations. The danger of changing a mistake in a reference, is that in the event of WP:LINKROT someone will try to find the reference using an archive searcher. If a reference has been "corrected" this will make the search much more difficult, if not impossible. Arjayay (talk) 16:56, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:SIC redirects to MOS:QUOTE the section of the Manual of Style dealing with quotations, so, as PrimeHunter says, this doesn't cover citations. Personally, I do add (sic) in references, in order that the reader knows it is a mistake in the original, rather than a typo.

Thanks for the input, Arjayay and PrimeHunter, I'll let the reference go as is then. -- Zanimum (talk) 19:46, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Re: List of surviving World War ll Veterans
Dear Sir/Madam:

I am writing because I did not see my father's name on your List of Surviving Veterans of World War ll. My father's name is Harry Alfred Spratt, and he is still living, he is 88 years old, and lives in Sacramento, CA. He was born on November 25, 1925in Montebello, Los Angeles, CA USA. He enlisted in the U.S. Navy when he was 17 or 18 years old. He served in the U.S. Navy, and was stationed at Guam, and he worked as a cook. He served at Guam sometime between 1941 to 1946? (not sure of exact year).

Is it possible he was, by accident, left off the list of surviving World War 11 Veterans? I would really appreciate your help and response to this question. If I am incorrect, or is there some other list???? I really appreciate any assistance you can send me. Thank you so much for your time.

Best regards, Jeanne Spratt December 14, 201321:48, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Jeanne. The list in question specifically limits itself to "notable" individuals.  We have a rather lengthy guideline on what it means for a person to be notable.  If you're certain he fits those criteria, we can create an article for him and add it to the list.  I would like to recommend you do not attempt to create such an article yourself, as you're rather closely related to him.  However, if you can provide sources, we can create the article for you, or review a draft you create in your user space (if you take the latter route, be sure to formally declare your relationship to the subject of the draft on its discussion page so editors know to give it extra scrutiny). -- N  Y  Kevin   00:24, 15 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, such lists are usually only for people who already have Wikipedia biographies. "notable" does not refer to somebody's character but whether they have received significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Based on a Google search that doesn't appear to be the case for your father. By the way, you wrote World War ll with two lower case L's at the end, and later World War 11 with two ones. It's written World War II with two upper case i's (Roman numerals). I know some people grew up with typewriters where the same key was used for the digit and a letter, but in computers the right character should be used. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:51, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Impressionistic Calligraphy Article
Dear Helper,

I did submitted a article to Wikipedia under the name of "Impressionistic Calligraphy". I received a email stated that it was declined. Please help me how to edit before re-submit it again.

Thanks,

Chau Thuy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chauthuy2013 (talk • contribs) 22:56, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * In order for a topic to qualify as a stand alone article, reliably published sources must have discussed the subject in a significant manner.  Based on a search from google books,, that criteria does not seem to have been met. If you have access to other reliably published sources, then you can  use them to support the claims in your proposed article by providing citations.   If you do not have published sources, and "Impressionistic calligraphy" is simply your personal approach or commentary, then there is nothing anyone can do to help you get the content approved as an article.--  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  01:13, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * and as a sidenote, you should be aware that we do not allow people to create articles to showcase their own artwork. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  01:57, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Rage Syndrome Page on Dogs
Every time I consider donating to Wikipedia, I find a seriously concerning page like the "Rage Syndrome" page, which covers a completely made-up doggy disorder and should clearly come with the Wikipedia warning, "This article needs more medical references for verification or relies too heavily on primary sources." I have found that this warning is nowhere to be seen on the majority of b.s. "veterinary" pages that need it most.

I represent my dog, a young Springer Spaniel who occasionally gets over-excited and was "diagnosed" by a trainer with the thoroughly made-up and fully debunked "Rage Syndrome," which would be more aptly named "Excitable Puppy Syndrome."

My dog was scheduled for euthanization at a "no-kill shelter" the day I adopted him, because of this "Rage Syndrome diagnosis" from a "trainer," who happened to be related to a shelter employee. I appreciate that Wikipedia has created a special project to review pages related to veterinarian medicine, but I do not think Wikipedia is going far enough with this project. What I believe is coming to light in this Wikipedia process is that the fields of veterinary medicine and dog training need to be exposed for their wide-spread practices of over-charging vulnerable, pet-loving clients for under-researched "medical practices."

I will edit the "Rage Syndrome" page when I have more time away from work and family obligations, but given that only one of twelve references on the "Rage Syndrome" page is an even remotely valid source, and given that it is quite transparent the writer only read the abstract of this one remotely reliable source, I'm surprised I'm the first person to bring this up. What happened to the option of simply flagging with a comment explaining the flag? Without a solid flagging process, I do not currently feel comfortable donating to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.140.196.168 (talk) 22:57, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You can discuss these sorts of issues on the fringe theories noticeboard. Please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes in the future.  -- N  Y  Kevin   00:30, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Various maintanince templates (flags) are currently available and frequently used. The Gadget "Twinkle", available in user preferences to logged-in users, makes it easy to ad such flags. DES (talk) 16:50, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Sandbox
I started to write an article in my sandbox them moved it to a sub page as it was nearly finished. The sandbox now has a redirect to the new sub page. How do I get rid of the redirect so that I can use the sandbox for something else ?

Qqflatron (talk) 23:12, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * First, look at [ your user space]. You'll notice the sandbox is the link on the right.  It is italic because it is a redirect.  Click it.  You'll be taken to the draft subpage.  Underneath the title of the subpage, you'll see a small bit of text saying "redirected from..." with a link back to the sandbox.  Follow that link, and you should be able to edit the redirect like any other page.  If you want to delete the redirect outright (so it's a red link like this one), tag it with db-u1, and an administrator should remove it shortly.  -- N  Y  Kevin   23:56, 14 December 2013 (UTC)