Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 December 19

= December 19 =

Nica Noelle
I just tried to edit the page on Nica Noelle. I am her publicist, and she specifically asked me to edit her page to make updates and correct misinformation that was on her page. One of my edits was reversed because "saying you are her publicist is not enough." Okay, what is enough? I also noticed that some of the other edits I made several months ago were gone, one of which was adding her website, which is online and verifiable. I don't see why that was taken down. What do I need to do to be verified? Not all of her information is in print. Also, some things that have been published about her may not necessarily be true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackiesshrink (talk • contribs) 00:15, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * content must be verifiable as having been published in a third party reliable source. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  00:32, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Exactly. What you know even if your identity is completely verified, does not matter. What matters is what can be cited to reliable sources. Also, as the subject's publicist, you have a conflict of interest, and in general should not directly edit the article. Instead you should make suggestions at Talk:Nica Noelle. DES (talk) 00:40, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I was the editor that reverted your changes and just to set the record straight, my edit summary read "Remove WP:OR, just saying that info is supplied by a publicist is not enough." In the edits, you did not claim to be her publicist, you said the info was supplied by her publicist.  That made it sound like a game of Telephone where one person says something to the next and then to the next and by the end the message has completely changed. Not that it really matters though since the info provided in articles, as said above, needs to be verifiable.  Every reader should be able to go to the reliable source, web site/book/magazine/etc, and look up the info themselves.  Dismas |(talk) 00:58, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

User
It wont let me edit my user page when I am the user. Why? My username is my IP address.64.92.53.159 (talk) 02:15, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * An IP address is a form of identification (which often changes for some people) but not a username. If you create an account then you choose a username and can make a user page. Unregistered users can only create pages in talk namespaces and the new draft namespace, not in the user namespace. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:26, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you sure? I think the problem is that User:64.92.53.159 does not yet exist and only registered users can create pages.  I think that if someone created that page, then the IP user could edit it.  RudolfRed (talk) 17:40, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You are right, and it doesn't contradict what I said. I omitted that technicality because we generally don't want IP "user pages". They may be relevant in rare cases with long-term static IP contributors who will not register but still want their own page for some reason. Special:Contributions/64.92.53.159 only shows three days and the question showed a misunderstanding about what a username is. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:14, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

I want to Write About a Topic Web Design Dubai
Kiwistech

Hi all, i want to ask to senior persons here that i want to write on the topic of web design dubai, and what if i want to write about certain website? Can senior persons guide me in this?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwistech (talk • contribs) 07:14, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Do you mean Web design in Dubai or a company called Web Design Dubai? Your first article is the go-to place for this and where you will have the most support. If you are in any way affiliated with a company of that name then you are strongly urged not to edit the article yourself per conflict of interest. Thanks ツ Jenova   20  (email) 09:27, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Web Design Dubai has been deleted (for the 4th time) as "unambiguous advertising or promotion". You have been given a number of useful links on your user talk page, so I would suggest that you read them carefully. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:56, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Editing in IE11
I am unable to get the Citation templates dropdown to work with IE11. Has anyone else experienced this and perhaps resolved it? Screech1616 (talk) 12:46, 19 December 2013 (UTC) Unfortunately, as I have complained about numerous times on Wikipedia, IE users are treated as second class citizens; many software changes are poorly tested, and frequently cause problems with IE. However, in this instance, it appears to have been an IE change, rather than a WP change that has caused the problem. Arjayay (talk) 17:10, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I have this problem as well - It was also a long-term problem in IE10, although citation templates were working (very briefly) before Microsoft changed me to IE11 without asking whether I wanted to change, or not.
 * Using Compatibility view (Tools, Compatibility View settings) re-enables Templates and the Reference option, but does not seem to enable Named references, or Error check. Compatibility view also creates some problems with drop-down menus on hover - but might be worth trying out to see I the benefits outweigh the problems. Arjayay (talk) 18:01, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Valley, Alabama
This is a biased opinion. "The city does however suffer from a southern baptist, dogmatic social structure that prevents any real growth. And another negative aspect is the obvious "good ole' boy" system that not only thrives but is encouraged throughout the political landscape in Valley. One could say that Valley is a "backwards" or "socio-politically myopic" place to live." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurricane0721 (talk • contribs) 14:26, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That wasn't the only problem with the article- but most of the unsourced, improper content has been removed. In the future you can be BOLD and fix content yourself, making sure that the content is based on what reliably published sources have said, and presenting it in a neutral point of view. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  14:32, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

audience wave origin
Dear Sir. I would like to help document the origin of the 'audience wave'. In the early 1970's the University of Washington yell leader Rob Weller was responsible for the wave creation. The historic cheer of "GOHUSKIES" was traditionally given and answered from two sides of the football stadium--the students on the north side and the adults on the south side. Rob had the entertaining and creative idea of announcing or pointing to various seating sections for either the "GO' or the "Huskies" response. This entertaining cheering practice brought excitement to the usually energetic college football crowd. The volume competition from various sections soon lead to the "sweeping" wave from around the U shaped stadium as Rob would call out the sections and later just the cheering sweep of the wave became popular. I was a graduate coach at the time and had the leisure and pleasure of watching this cheer evolve. Please contact me for specific dates or other witnesses for the documentation of this fun part of University of Washington Husky History. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.170.199 (talk) 15:45, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * This Help Desk is for help using Wikipedia. For general knowledge questions like this, try the Reference Desk, instead. For this Q, I suggest Reference desk/Entertainment.  Also see Audience_wave (this doesn't answer the Q, but gives some insight). StuRat (talk) 16:01, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * If you were hoping to add your information to an article, such as Audience_wave, please be aware that content in Wikipedia articles should be supported by published reliable sources not personal recollections, however well informed or accurate they may be. If you do not have a published source which supports your statements above, please do not add them to a Wikipedia article. You could post on Talk:Audience_wave, this might help some other person find a published source. (If there was an article in the college paper at the time that would be a published source, for example). DES (talk) 16:18, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I added information about Weller's 1970s Wave efforts. -- Jreferee (talk) 13:08, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Why have I received this?
I have just received this when accessing a page - I don't know what it's talking about and have not been anywhere near the page it mentions etc, and I dont edit wiki pages just use them. Please tell this person not to accuse people ofdoing things they haven't.

User talk:88.107.194.229 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search European ethnic groups

In your edits to the section on non-european disaporas in europe, you included a paragraph representing your unsourced point of view. This is not acceptable on WP. It is concerned with verifiable fact. You made a new table removing various ethnic groups (armenians, tamils, syriacs, somalis) and adding unverifiable statistics (the 12.5 million figure for the african dispora is at present unsourced on WP). Please stop removing information from this article, adding flags where inappropriate and pushing your own point of view. A table is inappropriate because this information will always be incomplete. (In France for example there are many citizens of chinese-vietnamese origin, as well as a significant number of north africans sans papiers.) --Mathsci 07:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.194.229 (talk)
 * Hey, 88! Don't worry about that message; it's not addressed to you. What happened is that the IP address that you use is a dynamic one, meaning that your IP address changes from time to time.  This time, it changed to one that had been used by someone else, long, long ago, and they did something that caused another editor to leave them that message.  If you look at the timestamp, that comment has been there since 2007; it's just been sitting there for six years.  You just happened to stumble across it by accident, so again, you can disregard it; it was meant for someone else. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 17:28, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Isn't there a box at the foot of the page, saying "This is the discussion page for an IP user, identified by the user's numerical IP address. Some IP addresses change periodically, and may be shared by several users. If you are an IP user, you may create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other IP users. Registering also hides your IP address." ? - David Biddulph (talk) 17:45, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Why not click the link to the talk page and check for yourself? RudolfRed (talk) 21:26, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I guess David did exactly that and copied the displayed text but there are things which can change what is displayed, like preferences. A registered user with en-gb as language at Special:Preferences would see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:88.107.194.229?uselang=en-gb which has another wording than IP's see. Logging out is the best way to ensure you see the same as another logged out user but there are still no guarantees. For example, some banners can depend on geolocation. Of course it could also be that David was making a rhetorical question. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:09, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

How to post a URL link?
I am wondering how do you post a web link (URL) in such a way that it is not displayed as the whole line but allows only a small spot on the page that requires a click to redirect the user to the actual link/web page, thus making the URL itself invisible? Thanks, AboutFace 22 (talk) 17:53, 19 December 2013 (UTC)AboutFace_22


 * See Help:Link. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:04, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Erroneous map
Somebody pointed out here that the map shown on the page Organisation Africaine de la Propriété Intellectuelle is incorrect. Indeed, the map appears to be wrong. I have no idea how to edit the map. Can you help? Thanks. --Edcolins (talk) 18:15, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree it's wrong. The map creator User:Cxw hasn't edited since October. You could make a request at Graphics Lab/Map workshop. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:02, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Will do so. Many thanks. --Edcolins (talk) 19:27, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Inappropriate Photo
To Wikipedia, I was looking at the Tappan, NY page and I saw a poster of Major Andre hanging. Whether has was a good or bad man, that is not right to show that poster. Please remove the poster. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.2.124.165 (talk) 19:03, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Since the hanging occurred in Tappan, NY, the poster is relevant. Wikipedia has this wonderful "not censored" policy which precludes the removal of content on the grounds of offensiveness. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 19:11, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) Tappan, New York displays File:Major John André01.jpg. It's a painting from 1783 and the hanging seems significant for a small town so I think it's relevant enough to be in the article. Wikipedia is not censored and although we may take certain considerations about graphic photos and recently deceased people, I don't see justification for removal here. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:16, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I am a Brit, but I agree with the two answers above. At least they treated him with respect, and let him hang in his red coat. Maproom (talk) 23:25, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Can I remove this in the Reference Desk?
Can I remove my Judgment Day question?: Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2013 December 4--78.156.109.166 (talk) 20:21, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Its been archived. And if you are thinking that by removing it from the archives, it will be removed from your history, nope. Every edit you make is stored as a permanent record. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  21:14, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * User 78.156.109.166 has been, once again, blocked for disruptive editing. -- Jreferee (talk) 12:24, 20 December 2013 (UTC)