Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 December 30

= December 30 =

Tabloid disambiguation
I'm a more experienced editor, but on Talk:Chennai Express/GA1, the Disambig external tool shows that there is a disambig link to "Tabloid". The GA Reviewer has asked me to query here. There is absolutely nothing mentioned of Tabloid in the article. When I click "Fix link" it says there is no disambig link in the article. It gives a small note, "The toolserver database is out dated". Is this the only problem? Ethically (Yours) 16:21, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know. For me, that link says "No disambiguation links on Chennai Express." And this other tool agrees. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:47, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I went so far as to examine what links to Tabloid, and none of it is related to that article (I have mentioned this on the review itself as well). - Purplewowies (talk) 16:51, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

mister BLACK
meu nome e Elizagela King, venho por muito tempo tentado localizar alguem da familia BLACK, moro no BRASIL estado de BOA VISTA - RR, mister BLACK era amigo da minha familia,ha um registro de terras no nome dele no meu estado,minha mãe e inglesa, por favor se alguem puder me ajudar eu agradeço — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.59.92.89 (talk) 06:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Machine translated below:
 * Eu suspeito que, com base na sua pergunta, que você encontrou um dos nossos mais de 4 milhões de artigos e pensei que estavam filiados alguma forma com o assunto. Por favor, note que você está na Wikipedia, a enciclopédia livre, que qualquer um pode editar, e esta página é para fazer perguntas relacionadas ao uso ou contribuindo para a Wikipedia em si. Assim, não temos nenhum conhecimento especial sobre o tema da sua pergunta. Você pode, no entanto, procurar o nosso vasto catálogo de artigos, digitando um assunto no campo de busca no canto superior direito da sua tela. Se você não consegue encontrar o que você está procurando, temos um serviço de referência, dividido em várias áreas temáticas, onde perguntas de conhecimento é bem-vinda. Por favor, note que você deve perguntar em Inglês, no entanto, uma vez que esta é a Wikipedia em inglês. Boa sorte. - Purplewowies (talk) 08:48, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Highlighting a passage of text when using inline tag
I am pretty sure there is a way when using a cleanup template like Clarify to force the highlighting of the specific passage of text in a sentence that is in need of clarification, but I have forgotten how exactly to do that. I remember I tagged a statement in some article I read that way, but I can't recall which article that was. How can I force the template to do the highlighting? If I remember correctly, the text is changed to grey and surrounded with a grey box if that is of any help. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  11:09, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That's Template:Clarify span. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:24, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's the thing I was looking for. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  11:30, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

article in different languages
i want to create a page of the same user, but i don't want it in English, i want it in other languages, and they have to be two different wikipedia pages, but have the same user name — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moha ennaji (talk • contribs) 13:13, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you mean Translation or SUL? - Purplewowies (talk) 14:29, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Help with EL formatting
Can someone fix the links I tried to add here? I'm editing from a phone and I have no idea what keeps going wrong... 182.249.240.3 (talk) 14:38, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * You forgot to start the urls with http:// or https:// or even just // . --David Biddulph (talk) 15:13, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I guess you copy-pasted from a browser which omits the protocol. For links to en.wikipedia.org in bracket notation, // is sufficient and recommended . PrimeHunter (talk) 15:47, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Multiple image matching heights problem, help please
I'm wanting to have File:Blutschutzgesetz_v.15.9.1935_-_RGBl_I_1146gesamt.jpg and File:Blutschutzgesetz_v.15.9.1935_-_RGBl_I_1147.jpg together horizontally but when I am trying to change the width of the box it is not getting any smaller.

I've used the template:

multiple image
 * footer   =
 * align    =


 * image1   =
 * width1   =
 * alt1     =
 * caption1 =


 * image2   =
 * width2   =
 * alt2     =
 * caption2 =

But when I am changing the width in #expr: ( * / ) round 0 even from say 200 to 100 the box is not getting any smaller on the page I'm trying to put this on, help?

Template:Multiple_image is where I am going off but its not changing the size of the box when I am making it smaller at all.

Thanks.--Windows66 (talk) 15:02, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * use the gallery format. GALLERY-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  15:29, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I've got a simple solution that used the multiple image template; it's parked at User:Diannaa/sandbox -- Diannaa (talk) 20:54, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * there is also this -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  13:00, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Collapsible lists with tabulated information
I would like to spruce up the list of t'ai chi ch'uan forms article by adding more information that would be collapsible. At this point, the type of arrangement I'm aiming for is to have minor headers that show the number of steps in the form, then collapsible lists under each header, then to have each list expandable to show the list of steps in a tabulated form showing the step number, the hanzi, the pinyin and lastly the translation. This is the idea of the layout:


 * 13 forms ← the minor header


 * [show] Chen (create by Master Chen Bing base on the movements from (Old Frame, First Routine, Lao Jia Yi Lu)) ← collapsed form lists
 * [show] Chen (aka Five Element Chen) subset of either Old Frame One or Small Frame (Grandmaster Zhu Tian Cai)
 * [show] Dong Yue (East Mountain) Combined
 * [show] Wudang (Zhang SanFeng - Wudang Nei Jia Quan) - Shi San Shi
 * [show] Yang Family 13-Form
 * [hide] Chu style Yang form Long 108 and Short 37 movements ← expanded form list
 * 1.  |  hanzi  |  pinyin   |    Commencing form  ← tabulated step list
 * 13. | hanzi   |  pinyin   |    Closing form
 * 13. | hanzi   |  pinyin   |    Closing form


 * 16 forms ← next minor header


 * [show] Yang Standardized
 * [show] Chen Standardized
 * [show] Actually Chen 4 Step (see above) popularly repeated in four directions of the compass (Grandmaster Zhu Tian Cai)
 * [show] Yang Family 16-Form

Can anyone please help me figure out which template or combination of templates can achieve this? Thanks. ~ InferKNOX (talk) 16:17, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * After doing some more searching, I think I may have found what I'm looking for here: Help:Collapsing. I will ask for help again if there's problems. ~ InferKNOX (talk) 16:54, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * beware of doing fancy tables just to do fancy tables. the complexity means that they they are very hard to edit and are broken very easily and tend to make the article less easy to actually read and comprehend. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  17:30, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I understand and agree. You can have a look at what I've used here: Talk:T'ai chi ch'uan. ~ InferKNOX (talk) 19:55, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Centre for Theatre and Film, University of Allahabad
The Centre for Theatre and Film, established in 2010, was a pioneering endeavor by the University of Allahabad, as part of its IIDS, approved by the UGC, and became perhaps the first such centre in the Asian subcontinent to offer not a diploma in either theatre or film, as existing institutions have done, but to offer a Master's Course integrating theatre and film. With Sachin Tewari as its founding coordinator, the Centre has already cleared two batches of students,who have acquitted themselves well in different dimensions. And now, the third is nearing completion.However, in spite of UGC sanctions for faculty,no steps have been taken so far by the University to make appointments and consolidate the functioning of the Centre, which must depend on Visiting Faculty - as and when approved at snail's pace by the administration: in its absence, teaching, must remain at a near stand still. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.98.100.56 (talk) 17:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note that Wikipedia is not an advertising platform, and that this is the Help desk. Did you have an actual question that you were seeking help? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  17:32, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Contents on Tukaram in English & Marathi are different
Contents on Tukaram in English & Marathi are different. Even Bahinai & Tukaram first meeting years are also wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sameerchoice (talk • contribs) 17:31, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Every language Wikipedia is created and run by the people who are working in that language and so there are bound to be differences. If you have found an error in the English Wikipedia article and have a reliable source to show what the correct information is, you can go to that article's talk page and provide the source requesting a more experienced editor make the correction, or you can fix it yourself! An error in the Marathi page would need to be corrected by the editors of the Marathi Wikipedia. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  17:37, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * But please note that Wikipedia, in any language, is not regarded as a reliable source, and cannot be cited as a reference. --ColinFine (talk) 22:17, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Math type &lt;math> markup question
I'm a retired math professor and have been working on adding more professional grade math info to wiki. I've been using math type with it's math wiki tag LaTex conversion. How do other editors do this? Is there a help page on wiki about math formula markups? Does wiki have its own little engine or do we use our own software when developing the tags? Does wiki see them as images? I don't want anyone to waste their time explaining, but if there are any links to read up on this I'd truly appreciate it as I'm sure it's been "asked and answered" many times before. I just can't get to an answer searching with keywords "Wikipedia &lt;math> tag" etc. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdecalculus (talk • contribs) 17:46, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Does WP:MATH help? RJFJR (talk) 18:04, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

User Deleted by Admin for "Unambiguous advertising or promotion"
I edited my user page in a way that must have made editor RHaworth uncomfortable, because he deleted my page.

I can not figure out what content (in the now deleted page) was unambiguious advertising or promotion. Comparing to other users pages, many are far more in depth and personal in detail than what I recall posting (which I can not access to confirm). Is there a published guideline on what information is allowed on user: pages?

User:Char74 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference. 10:02, 25 July 2013 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page User:Char74 (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)

Help? I'd like to exist as a user: on wikipedia again. I did once.

It's also ridiculously distracting, when I came here to add to the article about the Milton Bradley game Shogun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Char74 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It was written in third person, and appeared to constitute an advertisement for a User Experience Designer and Accessibility Evangelist. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:33, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * In particular the statement "Online since 1992, char74 has been an early adopter of web services and technologies." sounds like advertising. See WP:USER for more suggestions. In general your user page should include information about you 'as a Wikipedia contributor and should include info about your outside interests only as a matter of general interest or as it informs and illuminates the possible scope of your Wikipedia activities. DES (talk) 18:54, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Userboxes
I've been trying to make my own user page, but sometimes the boxes won't arrange neatly. Is there any simple way to arrange them my way? The examples under Userboxes aren't very clear. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 18:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I use the userboxtop and bottom templates. I've edited the listing of the template code to what is displayed below and hopefully clearer (I named the things that are supposed to be userboxes to really obvious names):

Wikipedia:WikiProject Userboxes/Userbox I want to arrange Template:Another userbox User:Purplewowies/Userboxes/I like userboxes Userboxbottom


 * Basically, the top, userboxtop, and bottom, userboxbottom are what "contain" the boxes in this method, and you put the boxes you would like to organize between them. You can look on my userpage to see this in action. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:00, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

How do I attach one or more of my pdf files from my computer to the EDIT section of my submission at User:BBoniface/sandbox
Unable to attach my pdf files which are the notes from my father on his U.S. Patent and are supporting documents. BBoniface (talk) 18:55, 30 December 2013 (UTC)Doris Boniface Albus


 * 1. We don't accept pdf files for articles.
 * 2. Your father's unpublished notes are not reliable sources, but rather self-published, and could not be used in an article anyway. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  19:00, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Leroy lita
Leroy lita was not a product of Chelsea FCC youth  but was a product of the Bristol City FC youth development  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.72.37 (talk) 18:58, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * This matter would be better raised on Talk:Leroy Lita. Do you have a reliable source that supports your statement? Please cite it on the article talk page. DES (talk) 20:14, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Schizophrenia and Mental Illness language
Hello, to whom it may concern

I have schizophrenia and also work in the mental health field. I was surprised when reading your description of schizophrenia and LSD that you use the word schizophrenic. Just for your information and for the publics perspective, I am a person who has schizophrenia or is living with schizophrenia. It is improper to call me a schizophrenic just as it would be to call someone a cancer or broken leg. It is in fact poor grammar, I hope you understand what I am saying, we call it person first language and it is preferred we be addressed in the following manner. He/she is a person who has or is living with schizophrenia or just a person living with schizophrenia. Okay all you wikis get to work, please, I'll check back to see if you have changed, if not that's fine I am used to being labeled after 32 years of living with this illness. To suggest I am a schizophrenic or to say people are schizophrenics is just rude in this day and age. I would really appreciate it if you would write me back should you decide to change it, I can also help you to use person first language in all your other description's of mental illness or addictions. Thank you for your time and please let me know if I can be of any help in this matter. Peace.

James Kindler — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.118.155.197 (talk) 20:53, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You would do better to address this at the talk pages of the articles involved. but in general Wikipedia follows the mainstream sources on such matters, not the views of advocacy groups. Qhen most sources use "person-first" language, so will Wikipedia. DES (talk) 21:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)