Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 January 12

= January 12 =

Displaying Image
I found this image of the monument to Sir James Hales (d.1589) and his son, and would like to use it in the section 'Marriages and issue' in the Wikipedia article on James Hales. When I tried to add the image to the article, however, I couldn't get it to show up. Help with this would be much appreciated, as I've never done this before. My experience with images has been solely related to images already available somewhere on Wikipedia. NinaGreen (talk) 00:58, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It doesn't appear you have uploaded it to Wikipedia yet. Click on WP:Upload or better yet, since it's free, upload it to Wikimedia Commons C T F 8 3 !  01:14, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I downloaded the image to my computer desktop, uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons, and added it to the article on James Hales. I'm not sure exactly where it went in Wikimedia Commons. It should be filed under Canterbury Cathedral, as that's where the monument is located, but I couldn't find anywhere to add that information. NinaGreen (talk) 01:44, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I added the category "Canterbury Cathedral", if that's what you mean,  C T F 8 3 !  11:18, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! NinaGreen (talk) 16:57, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

photo uploaded but not changed
Yesterday I uploaded a better version of File:Richard K Guy 2005.jpg to Commons, but the old version is still the one you see at Richard K. Guy. If you click on the photo, it still shows the old version, but at the bottom you can see thumbnails of the old and new versions. But if you click on the new version to enlarge it, it shows the old version. What is going on? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:48, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know what is going on; see this earlier thread where another user is having similar problems.
 * Here's a new theory: perhaps there's more than one WikiMedia server involved and the results vary by continent? and yourself are both in the States, and seeing old images, and I am in the UK, seeing the new images. Perhaps some other help desk watchers could post with evidence either way. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:52, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * (More) There are some similar threads at the Commons help desk. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:22, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Samuel Insull page and login issues
I have tried repeatedly to log in, register, etc. but nothing I do seems to work. This is very disappointing, especially since I send donations to Wikipedia on a regular basis. So, 1) WHY won't your site accept ANY of my credentials, whether I log in as an existing user or attempt to create a new user account??? This makes no sense, and comes across to me as being very rude and dismissive. Wikipedia is perhaps not interested in allowing its members to establish accounts or to help with content. I am surprised by this, as I thought that this was intended to be a contributive site. But that is not what I have experienced. 2) The image on the Samuel Insull page is very poor. I adjusted the image and then attemped to post this new file to Wikipedia in hopes that you would replace the very poor image with a corrected one after reviewing it. But nothing I have tried will work. What is wrong with Wikipedia? Don't you value the contributions of your readers, especially when all we wish to do is help you??? I don't understand this. And now I see that there is no way to upload an image to this message, so you will still not likely see what I attempted to do on your behalf. I don't get it. Don't you want your own readers to support your pages, and to help you with better files and content??? Please respond (and I won't be surprised if I hear nothing back). Regards, Stephen Mercer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.80.45.185 (talk) 03:06, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The website still works for me (and I'm sure many others), so don't be surprised if there's a problem at your end. And maybe try assuming a little good faith for once. - a boat   that can float!   (watch me float)  04:13, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Does anything at Help:Logging in help you? From your description I suspect that your browser is unable to save Wikipedia's cookies. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:42, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * We definitely want people to create accounts and help us. We have accounts and Special:Log/newusers shows several accounts are created every minute. We have a better chance to say what goes wrong for you if you tell the username and say what happens when you try. You can also ask for an account at Request an account instead of creating it yourself. Note that both usernames and passwords are case sensitive. We also want people to upload images but only if the image has a license allowing it. Unlike many other websites we care about copyright. Many people upload copyrighted images we have to delete. Copyright concerns complicate our upload procedure and we don't allow unregistered users to upload. In addition, uploads here at Wikipedia requires an autoconfirmed account (one that is at least 4 days old and has made 10 edits). At Wikimedia Commons at http://commons.wikimedia.org new accounts can upload images right away and these images can also be used in Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:09, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I Found The Most Recent Logo for WJYY
I found The Most Recent Logo for WJYY via their website. 98.229.132.126 (talk) 07:16, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The direct link to the logo for WFNK has been moved to here.
 * The direct link to the logo for WFNQ has been moved to here.
 * The direct link to the logo for WTHT has been moved to here.
 * The direct link to the logo for WNHW has been moved to here.
 * The direct link to the logo for WHXR (without having to crop from the "website coming soon" header) is now available at this link.
 * The direct link to the logo for WEMJ has been moved to here.
 * The direct link to the logo for WFRQ has been moved to here.

98.229.132.126 (talk) 07:31, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Direct Link To The WBBV Logo Has Changed And Website Has Been Discontinued

 * The direct link to the logo for WBBV has been moved to here, via being available through the station's Facebook page. The website link provided for this station is no longer active. 98.229.132.126 (talk) 17:33, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * See below.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 22:09, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Request For Some Low-Quality Stunt Format Logos For WTKK In Boston
I have found some links to Low-Quality .PNG images of the Logo Artwork for the remaining three stunt formats for WTKK in Boston, Massachusetts. I'm requesting that they be added to the WTKK article.


 * As Dance "Nova 96.9"
 * As Adult hits "96.9 Mike FM"
 * As Classic rock "96.9 The Bone"

These logos are being provided in chronological order and have been provided by the same website that was used to acquire the link to the .PNG image currently being used for the "Power 96.9" stunt logo that's currently uploaded to the WTKK article. Like the .PNG link being used for the "Power 96.9" stunt format logo, the links I've provided to the .PNG images for the logos for the remaining three stunt formats are not the original logo links but, rather, they're Lower-Quality (300p) image links. 98.229.132.126 (talk) 04:30, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Please follow the advice above.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 22:10, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

HELP ME PLEASE
I have made a page and it is telling me that A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page. (January 2013). I really don't know what this mean the link my page is: Alpha Omega Sigma

thank you in advance Daniel J Wade — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpha Omega Sigma (talk • contribs) 08:27, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * See the answer to the same question which you asked at Teahouse/Questions‎. For future reference, please note that it is frowned on to ask the same question at multiple locations, as it can waste the time of contributors answering questions which have already been answered. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:12, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Is it possible to change the font size of a LaTeX-formula?
Is it possible to change the font size of a LaTeX-formula in Wikipedia? In particular I would like to reduce the math font size in the legends of an image. Ceinturion (talk) 09:44, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Have you tried \textstyle or \indexstyle commands? Ruslik_ Zero 11:28, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Amazing race
plse i would like 2 know how a person like me from uganda how i can enter the amazing race in USA? Thanx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.210.129.76 (talk) 16:23, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello. This is the help desk of Wikipedia, a project where volunteers from all over the world collaborate to build an online encyclopedia. Please consider asking your question at the reference desk by clicking here and selecting an appropriate category. Click on that category and then do the same over there as you did here and ask your question again. This help desk is only for answering question about editing Wikipedia. The volunteers at the reference desk will do their best to answer knowledge question like yours. Also, if posting there, please remember to type four tildes at the end of your post like this: ~ . This will produce your IP address and a timestamp and is usually considered a good practice here. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask. Best of luck. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  18:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

the history of john William lambert
On this page,you say that he moved his company union auto to Anderson Indiana in 1893.On the page that speeks of the union car1901-1905 and then he moved his company to anderson in and changed the name to lambert in 1906 and manufactured cars at that location.This is not info: on his biography page.correct me if I'm wrong.Thanking you!. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.28.240.56 (talk) 18:32, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you please provide a Reliable source to verify what you have claimed here? Thanks Tiggerjay (talk) 07:51, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

citation needed
How do I put a link to prove what I added to a page is true? Says "Citation Needed", but can't figure out how to add a link for proof. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Re105f (talk • contribs) 18:54, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * "" is a link to Citation needed which includes a link to Citing sources, but see also Referencing for beginners for a simpler page. You don't have to get it perfect. If the source is online then just make sure it's reliable and the reference has a working link to it. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Dustin Hermanson
I just wanted say that I think the reference to Dustin Hermanson, a former MLB player, comes across as rude and sort of makes light of a very successful career. I think words like bounced around, and replaced and let go take away from the positive aspects of his career. Is it possible to rewrite the article that highlights the key points in his career, his personality and all the good charitable things he has done as a result of his career? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.202.250 (talk) 20:46, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It was a little colourful. I fixed it a little. Feel free to add any other notable things to it.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:10, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Request for article creation
I was intending to request an article for creation (here) which seemed like a reasonable and simple thing. However, a little digging reveals that this particular request is more complex than anticipated. Article:

"Baby Mine" ~ (from Dumbo; Music by Frank Churchill, Lyric by Ned Washington)

There is no problem with notability, for one thing there are many articles that would link to it; and it was nominated for an Academy Award (1942), and a Grammy (1997, cover version); and there have been several other cover versions (notably by: Bette Midler, Alison Krauss, Chloë Agnew, Bonnie Raitt) — (Midler version featured: Beaches (soundtrack)) ... etc.

The first problem is that there already are two movies by that name; and there are some links erroneously linking to Baby Mine ← (which doesn't have a dab page, although there is also a play, coal mine, etc., by that name). This relates to the second problem, in that I was thinking about putting in appropriate red-links, but wasn't sure what to use; perhaps Baby Mine (song)? Also, I am unsure how/what to request for the article title, etc.

~Thanks for any suggestions and assistance, ~Eric F 74.60.29.141 (talk) 20:46, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The relevant guideline for this situation is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Since I am not very familiar with the subject area, I don't know whether one of the three topics can be considered primary or not. If that is not the case, then I'd move Baby Mine to Baby Mine (1917 film), make Baby Mine a dab page and link the articles Baby Mine (1917 film), Baby Mine (1928 film) and Baby Mine (song) from it. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  21:26, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe, as an IP, I am unable to do that sort of thing. ~Eric the IP 74.60.29.141 (talk) 22:02, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I turned Baby Mine into a dab page containing a redlink for the article you want to create. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  22:22, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks!   I submitted it (at 'here' link above). ~ A related question:   Is there some way to find out which articles link to a redlink?  (I lost count after about 25). ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 04:28, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, simply click on the redlink and then select What links here from the toolbox on the left. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  13:45, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Empty Box
Don't know if this was asked previously somewhere, but there is a big empty box in the top left corner of the page when I open Wikipedia. I don't know what it is, but it is new and doesn't seem to have a function. What is it, and how do I get rid of it?  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  21:38, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to this page? In what browser does this happen? --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  21:43, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Every page. This page, my watchlist, article pages. I can see the box itself while in Internet Explorer. While in Firefox, I don't see the box, but I see a gap in space that is the size of the box (while looking at the same page in Interent Explorer). So, it's present in multiple browsers, IE just lets me see the box.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  21:47, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Is it the Wikipedia logo? 216.93.234.239 (talk) 03:13, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * This is what it looks like on my screen.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  03:47, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I see from your screenshot that you have MonoBook as skin at Special:Preferences. It doesn't happen for me when I try MonoBook, and I haven't heard about this from others. Try to clear your entire cache. Does it happen if you log out and view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk?useskin=monobook? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:07, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It still happens if I'm logged out. I've also cleared my cache and it's still there.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  01:37, 14 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Does it happen in the default Vector skin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=vector when you are logged in and out? Do you have browser extensions you can try to disable? See http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/disable-or-remove-add-ons for Firefox. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:01, 14 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It does happen in the Vector skin (just tried). I don't typically use FireFox for Wiki. Usually, it's just to see how things look in a different browser. IE is my main browser for Wikipedia. I don't have any extension for IE, it just runs as originally set from install. The box hasn't always been there, it only recently showed up (maybe a week or 2 ago) and I haven't done anything new or different with IE during that time.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  04:09, 14 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe it's a geonotice which doesn't load properly. Geonotices are determined by IP address and only shown in certain periods. I don't have any currently. Your watchlist screenshot shows the box between "Edit raw watchlist" and "Watchlist options and notices". View source in my browser shows this code for that place, written in  here:

Edit raw watchlist) 					Jump to:					navigation, 					search				  Watchlist options and notices
 * Your code may reveal something trying to load. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:10, 14 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm still getting those geonotices though, in addition to the empty box. They both will appear.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  23:51, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Lost article
I uploaded an article one day ago, but cant find it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samy elbeblawy (talk • contribs) 21:51, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Samy. The account you posted this message under has no edits other than this one to any language Wikipedia, and no deleted edits to this one. This leaves three possibilities:


 * 1) You created an article at a different language Wikipedia and it was deleted;
 * 2) You were logged in under a different account when you created the article (in which case tell us what the account name was); or (probably most likely)
 * 3) You never actually saved the page you worked on.
 * This third possibility can happen in various ways. For example, if you work on a page for a lengthy period of time before saving, when you click page it will say something like "loss of session data. the page was not able to be saved." Another is that people sometimes click the show preview button by accident instead of the save page button and then see the page's content as if it was saved when it was only a preview. If you did try to create a page under this account and here, I hope you saved your proposed edit somewhere offline (which is a good idea for any large edit, until after you're sure it "takes"). Other than that, and barring the unlikely possibility that you still have the window or tab open and it's stored in your computer's memory so that hitting the "back" button will reach it, the material is unretrievable.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:07, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I see your account was created 10 minutes before posting here. There is a fourth possibility: That you created a page without logging in, possibly at Articles for creation. Unregistered users cannot create "live" articles in the encyclopedia but they can make suggested articles for review. If you tell a pagename then we can search for it. You can also try to log out and click Special:MyContributions to see edits made by your current IP address without being logged in, but your IP may have changed since the page was created. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:56, 13 January 2013 (UTC)