Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 January 15

= January 15 =

Thumbnail purge
I'm having trouble purging the out-of-date thumbnail on Wikivoyage-inline. The image is at File:Wikivoyage favicon.svg. Would appreciate help quickly, since we're going live today. Powers T 00:20, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, that is an interesting one. All the other templates that reference that image are working properly. I attempted to purge both the template and the transcluded template, but it still is showing the old logo. Tiggerjay (talk) 03:36, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It appears to be displaying properly now. Tiggerjay (talk) 07:17, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

requested articles?
can anyone help? thank you. --Jcief2344 (talk) 00:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Requested articles but that has a backlog. Articles for creation may be quicker if you want to start it yourself.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --Jcief2344 (talk) 00:42, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Admin questions
I would like to get as many responses to a certain question as possible from administrators. Whats the best venue for this? Pass a Method  talk  02:59, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It really depends on the nature of your question. There are various administrative noticeboards depending on the question you have. Perhaps post it here and we can help direct you. Tiggerjay (talk) 03:28, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You can also slap a tag on your talkpage and ask your question there, which will draw admins like flies to... er, a talkpage. Just remember to add a note requesting that the tag be left in place for a certain duration, otherwise the first admin to respond will nullify it as part of their reply. Yunshui  雲 &zwj; 水  09:52, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Who is 92.11.105.66
Check out his/her history. All s/he does is delete content and links. Is this what the community wants? Why the anonymity using 92.11.105.66? Shouldn't legit Wikipedia editors be identified by a better means? Bcwilmot (talk) 07:24, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comments. I am curious where you saw that IP address, because as far as I can tell there haven't been any edits from that IP address on the English Wikipedia for over two years. Part of our Five Pillars is that anyone can edit which includes anonymous users. And disruptive users are quickly blocked. However since your report appears to talk about the immediate present and that IP doesn't appear to have edited recently, can you perhaps point to specific articles or instances you believe this is happening on? Thanks Tiggerjay (talk) 07:35, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If by chance you were instead referring to IP 93.135.220.32, then that user has only made two edits, and he was warned on his talk page about those edits . Tiggerjay (talk) 07:44, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

changes to personal details
Dear Help Desk - I see from your records that someone modified the page about me in December 2012 and added the information that I "live in a shed." I don't and this is absurd. Can we correct this please? It should read "lives in Oxfordshire." I would like to update some of the publication and career details - how can I do this? best Celia Brayfield Celia Brayfield — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.9.239.215 (talk) 10:52, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This was removed in This edit. Mdann52 (talk) 11:09, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * (after edit conflict) I've reverted that vandalism, which also claimed that you became an author at the age of nine months.
 * To provide updated info, you should go to the article's talk page (Talk:Celia_Brayfield), and post it there. Other editors can then incorporate it into the article.  We do require that you provide verifiable independent references for the new content.  Unfortunately we can't take you at your word that you are who you say you are.  I hope that helps.  Please post here again if you have any more questions.  Rojomoke (talk) 11:14, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Image spacing
Hi, i only know how to place images in the left, centre, or right. So how would i place the image of the back end of the Citroën C3 Picasso in the middle, between the content box and the infobox? Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 12:24, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

What do you want to do with the image? I mean where do you want to place the image?-- Pr at yya  (Hello!) 12:46, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


 * In the middle of the first section, underneath the text and between the content box and the infobox. Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 12:56, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You could do it by floating the table of contents using and then formatting the picture as a plain image (i.e. without the thumb parameter) next to it. However, it would be ugly, would mess up the formatting on some monitor sizes, and wouldn't fit with the conventional approach to image placement on Wikipedia. Whilst it can be done, it probably shouldn't. Yunshui  雲 &zwj; 水  13:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Forgot to mention - you'd also need to add line breaks or nowrap the text immediately below, as well - which will also cause issues on tablets and other non-standard monitors. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  13:08, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It was a edit conflict. So I couldn't tell before Yunshui. I saw it myself in the middle. But it doesn't look well. Yunshui is right. Again if you need ask.-- Pr at yya  (Hello!) 13:20, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I see...I just figured it would look better in that gap, but if there's no safe way to do it then i have to lump it. Thanks for the help guys ツ Je no va  20  (email) 13:30, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Navbox 'equality' and tools to determine 'inequality'
I'm looking for a guideline or an essay to help deal with the following situation. A Navbox links to pages a, b, c, d, and e. OTOH, the navbox is included on pages a, b, c, d and x.
 * What guidelines should I use to determine if given that e is linked to in the navbox, the navbox should be added to page e, e should be deleted from the navbox or both?


 * Similarly, what guidelines should I use in regards to the fact that since the navbox is included on page x whether x should be added to the navbox, the navbox should be delete from page x or neither.

For example: Template:Alpha Phi Alpha articles contains a link to Martin Luther King, Jr. National Memorial but the template included in Martin Luther King, Jr. National Memorial.

Also, are there any tools that would help identify whether the links in a mainspace template are the same as the articles that link to it? (If the tool also identified article redirects in the templates, that would be great as well).Naraht (talk) 15:05, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I have edited to avoid the redirect so it now links directly to Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial.--ukexpat (talk) 15:21, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * And I just now fixed the template to remove the redirect for headstart. Doesn't answer my question though. :) Naraht (talk) 15:23, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Just use your best common sense: thoughts follow. For one question, if the article is in the navbox, the navbox almost certainly belongs on the article, though there are exceptions - such as when adding it would put too many boxes on the article or cause readers to ask "why is that there?".  For the other, ask if the article is "core" enough to the topic of the navbox to be included in it.  And if you're not quite sure, leave a note on the talk page saying what you did - if anyone objects, you can discuss it; if not, you're probably good. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 02:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Info changes
Someone keeps changing the content on our listing. I need to know how to stop this, or how to delete all info. Thank you for your help. Al Marra General Manager WOAY-TV Oak Hill, WV — Preceding unsigned comment added by Almarra (talk • contribs) 16:23, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It is not "[your] listing" - it is our article about your company. See WP:OWN and WP:COI. If there is any factually incorrect information in the article please post your correction with a reliable source to the Talk page of the article where an uninvolved editor can evaluate it and take action if necessary. Roger (talk) 16:35, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

make it like a celebrity page
can you help make this like a celebrity page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephine price (talk • contribs) 17:58, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you mean convert your current user page into an article that will appear on the main encyclopedia? To do that, and to avoid it being very quickly deleted again, what is written there would need to be about a person who meets Wikipedia's notability criteria for people.  Unfortunately, your user page currently seems to be about you, and writing about yourself is strongly discouraged.  Remember that this is an encyclopedia whose articles are about notable things, and not somewhere to promote yourself or simply to soothe your own ego.  Astronaut (talk) 19:42, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Delete my account
Delete my account, please.EatIcecream2 (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It is not possible to delete user accounts, though you do have some options. Please see WP:Delete account for more information. Cheers. Doniago (talk) 18:19, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Just delete it!EatIcecream2 (talk) 18:21, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Donigao has already explained to you that it is impossible to do so.-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:24, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * See WP:VANISH for an alternative. RudolfRed (talk) 18:29, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Recommended format for article talk page notification templates?
Is there a recommended format for bot placed article talk templates? I want to create an article talk notification template that is supposed to be placed on article talk pages by a bot. Is there a recommended standard for such templates or a good example after which I could / should model such a template? --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  19:28, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Talk page layout?--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:41, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe something like talkback or Helpdeskreply?--ukexpat (talk) 01:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Inaccurate article
RE: Religious affiliations of Presidents of the United States

It appears that the entry pertaining to John F. Kennedy has be tampered with by an idiot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.250.62.171 (talk) 20:19, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The article was vandalized shortly before your post. I have reverted the vandalism. Thanks for notifying us. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:24, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Twinkle not working
Hi, my twinkle isn't working at all - anyone have any idea why that could be? You really  can  21:16, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Everything is working fine for me, so I assume it's on your end. Have you tried going through this list? — Theopolisme ( talk )  22:29, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I am using Monobook, is twinkle working with that? Perhaps I should delete everything and start afresh? You  really  can  22:37, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Some time ago when twinkle was not working we were told to create a sub page to get it working, I can't find it now, just wondering if that could be the issue - Javascript is enabled in my browser. You  really  can  22:42, 15 January 2013 (UTC)